--- Log for 24.07.112 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 9 days ago 00.02.08 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@101.98.158.103) 00.02.08 Quit [Saint] (Changing host) 00.02.08 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 00.02.09 Join [Saint_] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 00.02.59 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 00.04.56 # gmaxwell, what should opus_alloc_scratch do when NONTHREADSAFE_PSEUDOSTACK is defined? 00.07.02 # bertrik: call your codec_malloc. 00.07.09 # it'll only get called once. 00.07.13 # ok 00.07.22 # it sets a global. 00.08.03 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 00.08.45 # you'll also want to reduce GLOBAL_STACK_SIZE at some point (because it's set to some default thats sufficient for x86_64 + float + encode + decode)... otherwise it'll be allocating more than you need. But at the moment I don't actually know how low you can take it. I suspect someplace in the 20k range. 00.10.29 # we could make opus_alloc_scratch use static alloc no ? 00.11.09 # funman: it is static. All the allocations are effectively static. 00.13.13 # In pseudostack mode there is a static global pointer "global_stack" which starts off as zero.. it needs to get pointed to some tens of KB of memory for the codec to use as 'stack'. The code in the codec itself will call opus_alloc_scratch to get an address to stick in there, if that pointer is null. 00.13.33 # ah ok 00.14.44 # (and that scratch can be shared by many encoders+decoders.. so long as you don't run them concurrently) 00.16.50 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@72.25.22.63) 00.18.51 # heh, it plays on target :) 00.19.52 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.19.54 # I hope I'm not fooling myself 00.20.16 # AWESOME. 00.20.26 # well, told you it shouldn't be hard from there. 00.20.58 # go play all these files: http://people.xiph.org/~greg/opus_testvectors/ (well not multichannel because you don't (currently?) support it) 00.21.41 # bertrik: gmaxwell: nice! 00.21.50 # bertrik: what did you change? 00.22.12 # I have a 32 kbps file which plays on target, the 96 kbps file is either skipped (could be some codec error) or aborts with a stack overflow 00.22.44 # ah it's a good start though 00.22.52 Quit [Saint_] (Quit: Quit) 00.22.55 # funman, various random things :) I increased the codec stack a bit and replaced the VAR_ARRAYS thing by the PSEUDOSTACK thing 00.23.17 Join [Saint_] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 00.23.55 # You could try setting the pseudostack alloc to return null and see if the 32kbps file still decodes. If it does then it's probably too low a rate to even be using it and perhaps you have some problem with the pseudostack allocation. 00.25.07 # codec stack usage is at just 27% according to our stack debug screen 00.27.19 # How big do you have the pseudostack set? 00.28.02 # one obvious thing to do would be to write deadbeaf to the last few bytes and then make it display that value every frame... and see if it changes. :) 00.28.31 # to be honest, I have no idea 00.28.57 # ah well if you didn't change the default is an enormous 100k. 00.31.11 # bertrik: nm or readelf -a should show it 00.31.56 # funman, I'd need some elf-file from the opus codec lib, right? 00.32.19 # hm yeah the .o 00.32.27 # i don't know which symbol to look for though (the stack) 00.33.31 # global_stack ? 00.36.04 Quit [Saint_] (Remote host closed the connection) 00.38.16 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Quit) 00.39.03 Quit ender` (Quit: Intelligence is the ability to avoid doing work, yet getting the work done. -- Linus Torvalds) 00.45.20 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.46.30 # it's now somehow skipping over my test opus file with 96 kbps, I'll try a smaller global stack 01.18.04 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8) 01.18.11 # ohoho 01.18.18 # bertrik: your MAX_FRAME_SIZE is way too small. 01.18.35 # and so you're probably hitting a higher duration frame and getting buffer_too_small back, then giving up. 01.19.34 # The maximum pack duration in opus is 120ms, so 5760 samples, times two for stereo. 01.23.06 # What's the battery debug setting supposed to tell me, all I see is a voltage. 01.23.38 # oh 01.23.45 # now its showing more 01.25.27 # gmaxwell, ok, will fix that 01.26.13 # How do I understand what it's showing me? 01.27.40 Quit mgottschlag (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01.28.09 # getting a stkov with the 96 kbps file 01.28.22 # stkov? 01.28.29 # oh you actually know its a stack overflow? 01.29.21 # yeah, I think we check a guard value on every thread switch 01.31.36 # bertrik: did you remove the VAR_ARRAYS define? 01.31.44 # yes 01.31.47 # hmph. 01.33.47 Join derf [0] (~derf@fuzzyneural.net) 01.33.54 # fixing the MAX_FRAME_SIZE allowed the testvector0X.bit files to play, though they still skip a bit 01.34.40 # hm. could the 'skip a bit' just be a performance problem? 01.34.59 # but "the small pup gnawed a hole in the sock"? :) 01.35.31 # bertrik: Any chance of getting a backtrace from where the canary gets overwritten? 01.36.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.36.47 # bertrik: oh dear, someone actually _listened_ to those files? egads. 01.38.25 # derf, maybe tomorrow .. :) 01.38.27 # My best guess might actually be silk_decode_core(), which has a bunch of fixed-size non-varray buffers. 01.39.26 # That's at least 5 kB right there. 01.39.44 # (counting the pulses[] array it gets passed) 01.40.03 Join candybar [0] (~foo@unaffiliated/candybar) 01.41.01 # I don't think we can provide a stack overflow backtrace easily. The overflow check is done when we switch threads, so chances are the code isn't anywhere near the deepest stack at that point 01.41.31 # gevaerts: Any chance to trigger it manually (e.g., at the start and end of that function)? 01.41.32 # Although of course it's also likely that nothing touches the too deep stack then, so there will be some useful data there 01.41.48 # Oh, yes, that should be doable 01.43.46 Quit T44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.43.50 # For debug purposes we can also increase the stack size without practical limits, by moving it to a different RAM section. For "real" use that's not an option though, we do want it in the static RAM on the CPU 01.44.02 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f049046158.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.49.43 # Which means even if it's this leaf function busting the stack, what you really want to use vararrays for is stuff further up the stack. 01.53.08 # Well, yes and no. We do split IRAM (internal RAM) in two, one half for the static core, one half for codec use. If I didn't look wrong, the codec stack is in the core part (we like to confuse people!), so there's 32KB to 64KB of fast RAM available for codec heap stuff (for the SoCs that actually have iram, anyway, but for the others this doesn't matter) 01.53.43 # I'm assuming that's not been used at all yet 01.54.05 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.57.30 # I think the global pseudostack currently defaults to something like 100 kB. 01.58.15 # Though I believe the actual worst-case is encoding, not decoding, I'm not sure if that could be cut under 64 kB. 01.58.24 # I believe we usually use some preprocessor magic to put various things in iram depending on how much iram a particular target has 01.59.14 # * gevaerts isn't a codec specialist 01.59.50 # That's all optimisation though, I suspect it's best to get things fully working first 02.00.18 # Right, which first means figuring out exactly where the problem is... 02.00.25 # * gevaerts nods 02.01.06 # derf: worse case, encoding, on x86_64, in float. I think the actual requirement is much lower. 02.03.01 # * gevaerts also goes to sleep 02.07.00 Quit Rower85 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.25.31 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0/20120717110313]) 02.28.39 Join thegeek [0] (~thegeek@171.17.9.46.customer.cdi.no) 02.43.25 Quit T44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.43.26 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f049046158.adsl.alicedsl.de) 02.53.07 # gmaxwell, okay, I'm using the debug output for my battery charging and I don't know how to make heads or tails of what it says 03.15.00 Quit XavierGr () 03.19.26 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 03.20.19 Quit tchan (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 03.29.10 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03.35.07 Join William_ [0] (~William@nc-184-3-21-227.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) 03.36.34 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 03.36.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.36.55 Quit WilliamC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03.59.35 Quit William_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04.03.21 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04.03.34 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~briehl@p579CCEDE.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.03.45 Join yuriks_ [0] (~yuriks@189.58.204.220.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) 04.04.48 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@141.45.176.104) 04.04.49 Quit kugel_ (Changing host) 04.04.49 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 04.06.16 Join scorche` [0] (~scorche@174-26-31-242.phnx.qwest.net) 04.06.32 Quit scorche (Disconnected by services) 04.06.32 Quit scorche` (Changing host) 04.06.32 Join scorche` [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 04.06.52 Quit TheSphinX_ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 04.07.00 Quit Jack87 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 04.07.00 Quit yuriks (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.07.01 Quit n17ikh (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 04.07.04 Join Jack87 [0] (Jack87@nasadmin/admin/jack87) 04.07.18 Quit efyx (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 04.07.18 Quit Szatan (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 04.07.18 Quit KiwiCam (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 04.07.18 Quit uwe_ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 04.07.19 Quit yosafbridge (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 04.07.19 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 04.07.21 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@128.204.195.239) 04.07.22 Quit n17ikh (Changing host) 04.07.22 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@unaffiliated/n17ikh) 04.07.32 Join uwe_ [0] (~uwe_@dslb-088-064-209-125.pools.arcor-ip.net) 04.07.50 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 04.07.56 Join yosafbridge [0] (~yosafbrid@li125-242.members.linode.com) 04.07.57 Quit yuriks_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.07.58 Quit kugel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.07.58 Quit Galois (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 04.07.59 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 04.07.59 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@71.20.87.137) 04.08.01 Quit mc2739 (Changing host) 04.08.01 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 04.08.41 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 04.08.46 Join yuriks [0] (~yuriks@189.58.204.220.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) 04.08.50 Join [7] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.08.52 Quit perrikwp_ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 04.08.57 Join KiwiCam [0] (~KiwiCAM@101.98.171.48) 04.09.49 Quit shamus (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 04.10.15 Join shamus [0] (~shamus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 04.11.08 Join Szatan [0] (principal@dj.from.drumandbass.net.pl) 04.18.02 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 04.19.02 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@c-69-243-144-187.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 04.19.06 Quit tchan (Changing host) 04.19.06 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 04.29.18 Join [Saint_] [0] (~Saint]@101.98.158.103) 04.29.18 Quit [Saint_] (Changing host) 04.29.18 Join [Saint_] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 04.29.32 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 04.34.35 Nick [Saint_] is now known as [Saint] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 04.40.29 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.40.29 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.40.29 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.40.30 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.40.31 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.40.34 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.42.25 Quit Topy (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.42.37 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f049046158.adsl.alicedsl.de) 05.36.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.56.50 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet-math.org) 06.00.06 Part dongs 06.02.30 Part amayer 06.06.07 Quit mikroflops (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.14.07 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@h-34-21.a238.priv.bahnhof.se) 06.26.16 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 06.39.13 Join WilliamC [0] (~William@nc-184-3-21-227.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) 06.39.30 Quit Topy (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.39.31 # 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gevaerts: I looked at the package I send you as v8 and plugin size calculation is busted in this version (don't know why to be honest). If you could test this http://www.sendspace.com/file/ld1zk2 it would be great. 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When I view playlists, filenames are shown instead of tags. Is that normal? Is there a way to change that? 17.41.29 # Yes it's normal. 17.41.47 # IIRC, there's a (very old) patch that changes this behaviour 17.43.56 Join [Saint] [0] (~quassel@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 17.46.07 # ok, thanks 17.46.10 Part foobArrr ("Leaving") 17.48.19 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-32-53.dynamic.chello.pl) 17.49.50 Quit wodz (Client Quit) 17.53.43 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-32-53.dynamic.chello.pl) 17.54.07 # [7]: ping 18.14.47 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.215.25) 18.24.35 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.32.55 # hmm okay, this is weird 18.33.30 # when you pause and unpause in the middle of a track, could it be that it drops a short piece of audio? 18.34.33 # <[Saint]> amee2k: sounds like you might have set "rewind on pause" accidentally 18.35.24 # <[Saint]> normal behavior should resume at the exact point it was paused. 18.35.37 # i was listening to a podcast and the text was supposed to be "playing the letters E, I, S and H." and i accidentially hit pause. since i noticed it immediately, i unpaused it right away and it sounded like "E, I, S and ." and the H was like missing except for a tiny bit 18.36.18 # [Saint]: rewind on pause is set to "0s" 18.36.28 # <[Saint]> hmmmm, weird. 18.38.12 # if i listen closely it sounds like it the pause button is really laggy 18.38.36 # <[Saint]> perhaps you /should/ use the rewind on pause setting then :) 18.39.05 # when i feel the button press, i can hear it play for even after the press registered and the play icon in the corner changes to a pause icon 18.39.33 # and when i unpause, it starts to play but audio only comes back a split second later 18.40.02 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 18.40.31 # <[Saint]> set rewind on pause to 1~2 seconds or so, and it should counter what you're missing when it resumes. 18.42.05 # meh. thats just as distracting. 18.42.11 # <[Saint]> I have it set to 10 seconds when I'm listening to audiobooks, I find it useful. 18.43.00 # i want to copy things from the podcast so i frequently pause and unpause 18.43.19 # <[Saint]> what target/codec is this? 18.43.21 # i had a suspicion that something is wonky, but that accidential pause and immediate unpause kinda confirmed it 18.43.52 # some ipod... lemme check the model 18.44.00 Quit linuxstb (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 18.44.09 # * amee2k got it for free from a friend and doesn't know the first sh** about apple products 18.44.28 # ipod mini 18.44.56 # the codec is MP3 and the version i'm using is 3.11.2 18.45.12 # installed it a few weeks ago 18.45.38 # <[Saint]> It might be reasonable to expect a slight delay if you happen to pause just before it wants to refill the buffer with a non-flash target. 18.46.12 # i did the CF card mod. i got it because the microdrive was dead :) 18.46.24 # <[Saint]> Ah :) 18.46.31 # the issue also seems to be rather consistent 18.46.38 # <[Saint]> also, CF'ed Mini FTW :) 18.47.06 # i lost the keycap on the lock switch when i did the mod though. thats kinda annoying 18.47.18 # almost as annoying as the gay pale blue of the case >_< 18.47.32 # <[Saint]> *ahem* 18.47.44 # >_> 18.49.12 # lemme put it on the line in and see if i can make a recording of what i mean 18.52.14 # amee2k: maybe fade in/out? 18.52.25 # <[Saint]> ah, good point. 18.53.44 # i turned rewind on pause back off. problem with the recording is that you can't see when i've pushed the button 18.53.47 # http://ve504.cugnet.net/~amee2k/sandbox2/test.mp3 18.58.05 # did that help? 19.00.02 Join Wardo [0] (~Mirandaha@176-120-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) 19.00.27 Quit georgehank (*.net *.split) 19.00.27 Quit froggyman (*.net *.split) 19.00.28 Quit mc2739 (*.net *.split) 19.00.28 Quit shamus (*.net *.split) 19.00.28 Quit Jack87 (*.net *.split) 19.00.28 Quit anewuser (*.net *.split) 19.00.28 Quit bluebrother (*.net *.split) 19.00.29 Quit ehntoo (*.net *.split) 19.00.29 Quit dionoea (*.net *.split) 19.00.37 # amee2k: have you checked the fade on stop/pause setting? 19.00.39 Join shamus [0] (~shamus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 19.01.14 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@190.207.196.98) 19.01.15 Quit anewuser (Changing host) 19.01.15 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 19.01.55 Join kelm [0] (~kelm@unaffiliated/kelm) 19.02.23 Join dionoea [0] (~dionoea@oyp.chewa.net) 19.02.36 Join georgehank [0] (~jae@dedicated.jaerhard.com) 19.02.36 Join froggyman [0] (~froggyman@unaffiliated/froggyman) 19.02.36 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 19.02.36 Join 16WAAV9HH [0] (~shamus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 19.02.36 Join Jack87 [0] (Jack87@nasadmin/admin/jack87) 19.02.36 Join 16WAAV4G5 [0] (~anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 19.02.36 Join ehntoo [0] (ehntoo@gateway/shell/mtu-lug/x-ekohdnhznjrygbqx) 19.02.56 Quit 16WAAV4G5 (Ping timeout: 247 seconds) 19.03.23 Quit 16WAAV9HH (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 19.04.49 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 19.08.21 # any thoughts? :P 19.22.05 Quit pretty_function (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.28.56 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 19.31.53 # amee2k: Still there? 19.32.48 Join megal0maniac [0] (~megal0man@196.213.53.210) 19.33.27 # amee2k: There's a setting called fade on stop/pause, which does a fade-out when pausing/stopping and a fade-in when resuming, could that be to blame? 19.33.32 # * evilnick is just echoing gevaerts 19.33.53 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 19.33.58 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 19.36.30 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.36.36 # evilnick: ooh, i think thats it 19.37.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.37.09 # It's on by default (and one of the first settings I switch OFF!) 19.37.48 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g224238098.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.37.56 Quit evilnick (Quit: Leaving) 19.37.58 # tried a few times with and without... seems like the fade quickly gets so quiet that it gets unintelligible but it still keeps playing 19.39.09 # the fade sounds kinda cool with music, but with speech it really sounds like it is dropping a piece of audio 19.40.41 Join muszek [0] (~muszek@91.150.214.23) 19.41.29 # hi... I have a sansa fuze+ with rockbox on it (installed ~a week ago via rockbox utility). The doc page says "Battery charging and core_sleep for battery saving are implemented.". How am I supposed to charge it then? 19.45.00 # errr... n/m, I think it just charged when plugged into a computer (I tried with a standalone charger before, but it didn't come with this device) 19.45.16 # Those are advanced features which I haven't figured out yet, but it does charge 19.46.04 # Used to have a bug which made it stop charging (but stay on) when the battery was full, so it would charge to 100% and then run flat. But that has been resolved. 19.46.30 # Since at least 2 months ago 19.47.42 # mmh as a side note, any ideas on replacing a lost keycap on the key lock switch of an ipod mini?? 19.48.03 # when i lost it i was looking around but couldn't find any replacement parts for that :/ 19.51.00 Join kevinconnellu [0] (~485e0cf2@www.haxx.se) 19.51.32 # is the ivo sound compadabul with rockbox 19.51.53 # no 19.51.59 # see www.rockbox.org for a list 19.52.22 # (assuming the ivo sound is a dap) 19.52.48 # alex is ther any OS for that 19.52.55 # I have no idea, ask google 19.53.02 # but I doubt it 19.57.55 Quit kevinconnellu (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 20.34.33 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Connection reset by deer.) 20.39.07 Part amayer 20.53.48 Join Totalled [0] (~Totalled@c-98-245-9-211.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 20.59.10 # bertrik: is your opus work somewhere? 21.09.53 Quit megal0maniac (Quit: megal0maniac) 21.32.45 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~LambdaCal@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 21.37.11 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8) 21.37.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.38.19 Join linuxstb [0] (~linuxstb@host86-181-136-95.range86-181.btcentralplus.com) 21.45.12 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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Assuming you don't use that switch usually :) 22.36.38 # otherwise you could try to glue something to the switch 22.38.01 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 22.38.08 Join Inipp [0] (~5ed46087@www.haxx.se) 22.41.41 # bluebrother^: toggling the switch with tweezers works. i lost the button removing the top cover to replace the dead drive 22.42.18 # but, thanks to the awesome invention of touch buttons it is kinda useless without because you'll inevitably touch the buttons all the time when carrying around without hold 22.43.09 # the backlight is on all the time because of that and it changes the volume if you look at it too strong 22.43.19 Join belushka [0] (~belushka@optima2406.opti.carnet.hr) 22.44.38 # the only place i've found selling replacements wants 5$ for the top cover sans button, and 29$ (WTF??) for shipping 22.45.10 # The backlight is an easy fix. Just change the backlight settings :) 22.45.21 # hi, I need help...My fuze shows white screen with msg: undefined instruction at 000003c 22.45.36 # when I try to plug it into usb it shows that 22.45.41 # when I turn it on it shows that 22.45.49 # is it hard bricked? 22.46.05 # bertrik: hold the power button for at least 30 seconds to reset it 22.46.24 # belushka: hold the power button for at least 30 seconds to reset it 22.55.13 # I did and it's still there 22.55.18 # did this happen to anyone? 22.55.54 # Try booting to the original firmware, and check the filesystem from there 22.59.49 # how do I go to usb mode without rockbox? 23.00.17 # ok, got it 23.01.11 # I can see it in my computer, do I just replace the .rockbox folder with new, stable version? 23.01.28 Quit petur (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.01.44 # There are basically four possible causes for this I can think of 23.02.09 # I downloaded the last dev build and this happened 23.02.19 # Ah, ok. It was fine before?> 23.02.25 # yes 23.02.39 # In that case, yes, try putting the last release back first 23.04.06 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 23.06.58 Quit liar (Remote host closed the connection) 23.10.36 Join as [0] (~belushka@optima2868.opti.carnet.hr) 23.11.06 Quit belushka (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.11.22 # it's working normally now... is it safe to download last dev. build? has it been changed since then? no more errors? 23.11.32 # I need meier crossfeed 23.12.47 # when is "then"? 23.13.09 # I'm not aware of issues, but there clearly are some 23.13.35 # Is this a fuze v1 or v2? 23.16.34 # v2, a day before yesterday I downloaded dev build. 23.16.58 # and had to wait till today for battery to empty 23.17.05 # It wouldn't boot 23.18.00 # saratoga wrote in a post that he changed it... I guess it's safe now 23.18.27 # It should be safer now, yes. I don't know if things will actually work now though 23.18.32 # * gevaerts grabs his fuze 23.18.57 # ok 23.21.40 Quit Inipp (Quit: CGI:IRC) 23.21.55 # The latest dev build seems to boot fine for me 23.22.39 # If it doesn't work for you, I'd recommend copying your settings file somewhere for later reference, and then clearing the settings 23.22.59 # thanks 23.26.40 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.28.16 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 23.35.42 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-189-46.26-151.libero.it) 23.35.42 Quit TheLemonMan (Changing host) 23.35.43 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@unaffiliated/thelemonman) 23.37.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.46.08 Quit Wardo (Quit: Blarglarg)