--- Log for 30.07.112 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 15 days ago 00.05.26 Quit anewuser () 00.17.52 Quit Thra11 (Quit: kthxbai) 00.23.42 Quit MethoS- (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 00.26.26 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 00.29.32 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 00.29.57 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 00.32.33 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@119.225.209.134) 00.45.00 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 00.51.33 Join chattr [0] (~mike@70-119-47-146.res.bhn.net) 00.51.48 Part chattr ("gone") 00.53.20 Quit ender` (Quit: Kiss a pair of boobs and the movie's rated R. Chop them off and it's PG-13. -- Jack Nicholson ) 00.57.20 Join user485763 [0] (~aoeu@112.166.15.141) 00.57.40 Quit user485763 (Client Quit) 01.04.09 Quit Rower85 (Quit: Hmmm...) 01.06.04 Quit mgottschlag (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01.11.20 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 01.19.41 Quit Scromple (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.23.35 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@119.225.209.134) 01.29.48 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 01.39.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.11.37 # bertrik: its normal that a new codec can't decode on PP in real time without optimization 02.11.58 # i think originally WMA std needed something like 200 MHz for real time on PP, now its about 30mhz 02.23.32 Quit n17ikh (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 02.46.44 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8) 02.57.28 Join webguest89 [0] (~ad382815@www.haxx.se) 03.25.24 # is gerrit not working quite right for anyone else? 03.26.38 # weird, its fine on chrome on one pc, but not the other 03.30.38 # haha i just noticed the silk fixed point macros are named after the arm assembly op codes that implement them (e.g. silk_SMLAWB, silk_SMULWB) 03.34.13 # saratoga: yep. 03.34.38 # but theres no macro_arm.h that just calls the arm asm? 03.35.08 # (The CELT fixed macros are not named so helpfully but are all modeled after operations which are fast on ARM and varrious DSPs, and can also be translated fairly straight forwardly) 03.35.26 # saratoga: No. There is no platform specific optimizations in the code base at all. 03.35.55 # ok well that should be easy to fix 03.37.55 # Right. We just didn't want to deal with them while the codebase was moving a lot, and didn't want to complexify the 1.0 reference implementation. 03.39.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.43.06 # how do celt and silk fit together? on higher bitrates is it mostly silk thats being called? 03.44.36 # sorry celt i mean 03.45.26 # There are three main modes, one is all the linear predictor code ('silk'), one is all the MDCT code ('celt'), and one uses the LP code for the low frequences and MDCT for the high frequencies. 03.46.37 # At the lowest rates you'll get the all LP, at the highest rates you'll get all MDCT. And the combined in between rates... the thresholds depend on the encoding settings, and in the expiremental encoder on automatic analysis of the signal. 03.46.59 # is one of them likely to be more compuationally expensive then the other? 03.48.10 # The LP encoder is enormously more expensive than the MDCT encoder, but the MDCT decoder is more expensive than the LP one though the difference isn't that huge. 03.48.44 # i guess for benchmarking purposes we should make example files of each case 03.48.45 # (and may be almost zero with an optimized mdct decoder on some platforms) 03.49.01 # saratoga: There is a set of official test vectors that abuse the hell out of the codec. 03.49.27 # are there relatively representative samples ? 03.49.35 # (and you should setup machinery so that you can test any optimizations you do which aren't bit exact to make sure they don't make you lose quality on them) 03.49.35 # ideally our benchmarks should try to be realistic 03.49.57 # No, they're unrealistic in order to push the corner cases. 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 10.52.13 # saratoga, gmaxwell: perhaps we should replace all our test_files with the opus test vector if they are so useful for testing code performance in specific cases 11.05.41 # they are probably only useful to test opus corner cases 11.08.15 # kugel: I'd say complement, don't replace 11.10.55 Quit bluebrother^ (Read error: Operation timed out) 11.11.46 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 11.13.15 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g231123170.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.14.17 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 11.19.34 # fwiw, rockbox on arm doesnt compile under thumb2 currently 11.25.00 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 11.28.43 Join mortalis [0] (~mortalis@77.108.98.177) 11.36.39 Quit mgottschlag (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.40.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.52.07 Join mgottschlag [0] (~quassel@2a00:1398:9:fb00:85ea:7ed6:b514:9b1d) 11.52.07 Quit mgottschlag (Changing host) 11.52.07 Join mgottschlag [0] (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) 12.08.58 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f048007062.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.10.31 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@i02m-212-194-176-149.d4.club-internet.fr) 12.13.12 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 12.13.16 Quit mortalis (Quit: KVIrc 4.1.3 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 12.38.39 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.43.55 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8) 12.48.42 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 14.11.19 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 14.12.08 Quit factor (Quit: Leaving) 14.16.07 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@87.115.107.236) 14.17.26 Quit Thra11 (Remote host closed the connection) 14.21.22 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@87.115.107.236) 14.39.32 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 14.42.24 Join webguest25 [0] (~ad382815@www.haxx.se) 14.45.00 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 14.47.05 # does anybody know how to merge change 301 in to change 300 14.47.27 # gerrit told me to squash my commits when i tried to commit to the 300-change :( 14.49.13 Part amayer 14.53.44 Quit webguest25 (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 14.56.46 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 14.57.47 # Zagor: have you had time to look at the manual issue yet? 14.58.10 # unfortunately, no 14.59.58 # freqmod: I *think* "git reset " will remove that commit while leaving the changed files alone, so they're ready to commit again, and then git commit --amend will let you change the "new" latest commit. I'm not at all sure if that's the best way though 15.07.30 # freqmod: then squash the commits :p 15.07.57 # check out a new branch (from master) and merge --squash the commits into it 15.08.11 # just make sure you preserve change-id line of the first commit 15.08.35 # however gevaerts way will also work 15.08.42 # Well... 15.08.52 # My way will work if your commits are all at the top 15.09.08 # If not, you'd have to rebase -i first 15.09.32 # And it won't be very handy with more than one or two commits 15.13.59 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 15.21.39 Join perrikwp_ [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 15.24.11 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 15.30.49 Quit amiconn (Quit: No Ping reply in 64 seconds.) 15.30.59 Join amiconn [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 15.36.35 Quit pixelma (Quit: No Ping reply in 120 seconds.) 15.36.54 Join pixelma [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 15.37.41 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 15.37.48 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 15.39.58 Quit perrikwp_ (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 15.40.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.45.49 # do we ever figure out why Doom wasnt working on some targets? 15.46.49 # which targets? 15.48.34 # well someone mentioned that it didnt work. then I checked my Ipodclassic and it didnt work 15.48.59 # someone also said Snake or Snake 2 didnt work. but that worked on mine 15.50.23 # I'd say "someone" needs to submit bug reports 15.51.41 # there was an active discussion about it in the IRC and I figured they were working on it. but the version of rockbox from 7-26(daily build) still wouldnt load rockdoom 15.52.14 # Ah, you mean the bflt discussion? That's not about the master branch 15.52.54 # let me install the current build and test it out. 15.52.56 # If it still doesnt work I will search for a bug then post one if i dont find anything 15.54.31 # what is the bflt branch? 15.55.16 # http://gerrit.rockbox.org/286 15.56.07 Quit mikroflops (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 16.01.34 # so its a plugin compiler for rockbox? 16.03.46 # no. 16.04.00 # if you aren't a edeveloper it's unlikely to even mean anything to you at all :) 16.04.03 # let alone be useful/interesting. 16.05.12 Quit mgottschlag (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16.06.14 Join mgottschlag [0] (~quassel@2a00:1398:9:fb00:85ea:7ed6:b514:9b1d) 16.06.15 Quit mgottschlag (Changing host) 16.06.15 Join mgottschlag [0] (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) 16.08.09 # well i plan on doing some development. im just trying to learn my way around when ever something pops up 16.09.03 # i know i cant just say "teach me everything about your system" so when ever i get a chance to check out something you guys are talking about i like to 16.09.46 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@h-34-21.a238.priv.bahnhof.se) 16.10.57 # The idea is to be able to load plugins (and codecs, and possibly later other chunks of code) at any address instead of a compile-time fixed address 16.11.48 # is there a rockbox simulator for linux? 16.11.49 # i checked the extras page and was redirected to rasher.dk but all the links point to windows binarys 16.12.04 # gevaerts: thanks. that sounds interesting 16.12.04 # That's because windows people typically can't compile easily 16.12.51 Quit linuxstb (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 16.14.37 # i havent checked out the git site yet but is that where i get the linux simulator? 16.15.43 # hrm, is there some sort of profiler ? I changed the lcd code to send framebuffer data in 16bit packets and want to see if there's some speedup 16.17.35 # amayer: the simulator is built from the same source code as rockbox, yes 16.18.15 # Torne: thank you. 16.18.38 # TheLemonMan: when running configure, use "a" for advanced, and build the test plugins 16.18.48 # There's an LCD speed test plugin 16.23.43 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 16.34.46 # this damn small lcd is cutting the error messages :| 16.39.16 Join linuxstb [0] (~linuxstb@host86-136-64-97.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) 16.45.13 # not sure who to talk to but Ipodclassic doesnt show up when creating a new bug report in the bug tracker 16.45.29 Quit Unhelpful (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 16.47.56 # amayer: added now 16.48.08 # Zagor: thank you 16.49.05 Quit perrikwp (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.49.57 Nick Szatan is now known as Belzebub (principal@unaffiliated/blown-engine) 16.51.46 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 16.52.45 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 16.57.42 Quit mgottschlag (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16.59.07 Quit Guest66294 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 17.05.03 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 17.08.12 # gevaerts: just posted the doom bug FS#12721 17.08.14 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12721 3Doom hangs on "Starting Graphics engine" (bugs, unconfirmed) 17.16.44 Join mgottschlag [0] (~quassel@HSI-KBW-078-043-187-218.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) 17.16.45 Quit mgottschlag (Changing host) 17.16.45 Join mgottschlag [0] (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) 17.17.12 Join Unhelpful [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/Unhelpful) 17.19.28 Quit perrikwp (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.20.41 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 17.32.18 Quit amayer (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.38.59 Quit TheLemonMan (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 17.40.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.45.41 Join Wardo [0] (~Mirandaha@176-120-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) 17.55.29 Join XavierGr [0] (~xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 18.06.21 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 18.07.37 Quit flaushy (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.29.03 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 18.34.01 Quit dys (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.34.54 Join dys [0] (~user@2a01:1e8:e100:8296:21a:4dff:fe4e:273a) 18.37.56 Quit perrikwp (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.39.11 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 18.56.38 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@82.159.0.178.dyn.user.ono.com) 18.57.07 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@i02m-212-194-176-149.d4.club-internet.fr) 19.06.18 Quit thegeek (Read error: No route to host) 19.10.58 Join perrikwp_ [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 19.13.24 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 19.14.35 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.214.125) 19.19.11 Quit alexbobp (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 19.21.23 Join alexbobp [0] (~alex@capitalthree.pwnz.org) 19.23.59 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 19.25.45 Quit KiwiCam (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.26.38 Quit perrikwp_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.40.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.43.01 Join KiwiCam [0] (~KiwiCAM@101.98.171.48) 19.43.36 Join perrikwp_ [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 19.45.09 Quit perrikwp (Read error: Operation timed out) 19.49.41 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 19.52.12 Quit perrikwp_ (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 19.55.55 Quit mgottschlag (Read error: Operation timed out) 20.09.15 Join Kumul [0] (~Kumul@cvx-ppp-66-50-52-16.coqui.net) 20.11.11 # kugel: how should i squash the commits 20.11.33 # i want to have my commit as a separate commit from bertriks commits 20.18.24 # froggyman: the same way as i described 20.18.39 # except you don't create the branch from master, but from bertrik's last commit instead 20.19.25 # i have a branch based on the last bertrik commit 20.19.34 # and push it to /refs/for/master 20.19.44 # for to merge single commits, it's easiest to do git rebase -i, though. you can nerge the top-most commit by amending to the previous one 20.20.23 # i do a rebase -i master 20.20.40 # and then i squash all commits except the one at the start of the file? 20.20.49 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.21.05 # no, you want to keep bertrik's ones as is 20.21.22 # why do i need to squash at all then? 20.21.41 # i have only one commit which i want to add to the change 20.21.50 # i thought you wanted your changes as a single commit on top of bertrik's ones 20.21.59 # or do you want them merged with bertrik's? 20.22.20 # i want to apply a patch (one commit) to change 300 20.22.31 # ah, okay 20.22.42 # yes then edit all commits except the first one 20.23.40 Quit y4n (Disconnected by services) 20.23.47 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 20.23.50 # for each rebase step simply do "git commit -va --amed" 20.24.02 # amend* 20.26.58 # if i try to squash all the commits except the first one i get an horrible merge conflict of all the files 20.27.11 # (using rebase -i) 20.27.30 # ? 20.27.54 # do a plain "git rebase master" 20.28.07 # before that make sure that master is up-to-date 20.31.46 # there i got a clean rebase 20.31.55 # i had some work done on the local master branch 20.32.20 # alright, now retry the rebase -i 20.34.00 # ok, rebased 20.38.28 # there it work 20.38.48 # thanks for helping me to untangle my version control mess 20.39.20 # now i only have to verify it still works after all the merging 20.39.25 # :P 20.44.58 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 20.49.25 # btw i wrote a codec 2 interface for decoding codec2 in rockbox 20.49.39 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@adsl-ull-71-240.45-151.net24.it) 20.49.41 Quit TheLemonMan (Changing host) 20.49.41 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@unaffiliated/thelemonman) 20.49.51 # but no fixed point of codec2 exsits yet so it does only work in the simulator with an hack to link with libm 20.49.51 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip545056ba.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) 20.58.41 # have anybody ensured that the opus codec is GPL compatible 21.00.27 # i saw something similar to the original bsd license http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#OriginalBSD 21.02.19 # It's not. It's based on the modified bsd license 21.03.27 # The original had a bit about having to mention the software in all advertising materials 21.05.58 Join mgottschlag [0] (~quassel@HSI-KBW-078-043-187-218.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) 21.05.59 Quit mgottschlag (Changing host) 21.05.59 Join mgottschlag [0] (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) 21.06.27 # freqmod: Yes. The new bsd license is not the old bsd license. 21.06.40 # And Xiph uses the newbsd license at _rms_'s recommendation. 21.09.15 # hmm 21.10.35 # - Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright 21.10.35 # 9 notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the 21.10.35 # 10 documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. 21.11.15 # is this not the advertising cause? 21.11.17 # No 21.11.27 # All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software 21.11.33 # must display the following acknowledgement: 21.11.51 # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses 21.12.56 # ok, so it is compatible with the GPL as long as it doesn't require the acknowledgement in advertising material related to the software 21.13.28 # ? 21.14.00 # The three-clause BSD license (which is the one Xiph uses) is regarded as GPL-compatible, yes 21.15.43 # * freqmod does still not understand the difference in principles between those causes, but it is ok as long as it is regarded GPL compatible :P 21.15.49 Join thegeek [0] (~thegeek@171.17.9.46.customer.cdi.no) 21.16.49 # freqmod: because the three clause requirement is pretty much exactly like the attribution and disclaimers required in the GPL; but it doesn't require you to do crazy things external to the actual distribution of the software. 21.17.12 Quit y4n (Quit: HOLY SHIT! WE'RE ALL JUST LIVING ON A GINORMOUS FUCKING SPINNING ROCK FLOATING THROUGH SPACE CIRCLING A BIG FUCKING BALL OF FIRE!!!) 21.17.28 # And, in any case, if it were incompatible you have bigger problems because libvorbis,tremor,libogg,speex and many other non-xiph things in rockbox are under the same license. :) 21.17.38 # Requiring mentions in all advertising means that if the four-clause BSD license had "won", you couldn't advertise a linux distribution in a magazine ad, you'd need several posters 21.17.58 # hehe 21.18.13 # gevaerts: I can write really really small, will that help? 21.18.32 # AlexP_: I was taking that into account :) 21.18.37 # hmmm 21.18.47 # Good job it got dropped then :) 21.19.03 Nick AlexP_ is now known as AlexP (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 21.19.17 # I think the third clause is pointless and our newer code doesn't use it (it uses the two-clause form), but the IETF required the three clause. 21.19.48 # (Well not just 'I think' — attornies advise that it's pointless) 21.20.20 # As in "already covered by law", I assume? 21.20.52 # the copyright law depends on the country though 21.21.18 # gevaerts: Exactly. 21.21.53 # Commit 0a645d2 in rockbox by 03Thomas Martitz: autoresume: Use GUI browser instead of text entry to select autoresumable folders. 21.21.54 # Commit 63d2762 in rockbox by 03Thomas Martitz: Database: Support for multiple search roots. 21.21.56 # Commit 8c655cf in rockbox by 03Thomas Martitz: New GUI browser to select one (or more) folders. 21.22.02 # freqmod: most countries have laws that say you can't just use someone's name to advertise stuff without prior agreement 21.22.14 # And that's basically all that clause says 21.25.16 # 63d2762 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (Thomas Martitz committed) 21.25.20 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21.26.57 # annoying db tool :) 21.29.28 # gevaerts: the term is also constructed without clear termination behavior so actually trying to use it to achieve that end would be messy. 21.30.20 # * gevaerts nods 21.30.57 # hm, where is tagcache_build() declared? the db tool calls it wrongly now 21.31.26 # ah of course, not at all :p 21.31.42 Quit Strife89 (Read error: Operation timed out) 21.40.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.40.38 Quit pretty_function (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.45.22 # hmmm 21.45.55 # the db tool doesnt seem to define HAVE_TAGCACHE, that should give warnings during compilation 21.46.04 # it does here but not in the build system 21.52.49 # database.make is slightly busted 21.53.00 # backsticks dont work in makefiles do they? 21.53.22 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-185-246.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 21.53.43 # Like most tool makefiles in the tree, database.make is a bit hackish 21.54.10 # Made by changing bits until it appeared to work :) 21.54.44 # that's engineering! :) 21.54.51 # true that 21.55.18 # the backsticks are not the cause of the problems though 21.55.19 # * gevaerts denies all responsibility and tells people not to believe what git claims about who originally added the file 21.55.37 # backticks are the evil, just use $( ) for compatibility sake 21.55.54 # TheLemonMan: that means something else in make 21.56.26 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 21.56.26 Quit Zagor (Changing host) 21.56.26 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 21.56.47 # have i ever told you how awesome is cmake ? :) 21.58.49 # TheLemonMan: wrong crowd :-) 21.59.28 # ah, Zagor! 21.59.40 # Zagor: Did anyone mention that the online manuals are dead? 21.59.53 # AlexP: yes, I'm looking at that now 22.00.00 # OK great, thanks 22.00.27 # I'm struggling a bit with the extremely verbose output of latex though 22.00.35 Join perrikwp_ [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 22.00.49 # yeah, 'tis rubbish 22.00.51 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 22.01.14 # I don't suppose the script that cleans up the pdf builds helps? 22.01.20 Quit perrikwp_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.01.31 # aha! the db tool doesnt actually define a target (like IRIVIER_H300) 22.07.05 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 22.07.25 # AlexP: what script is that? something in gerrit I missed? 22.08.08 # Zagor: In git I think 22.08.10 # One mp 22.08.12 # One mp 22.08.14 # ffs 22.08.16 # MO! 22.08.24 Quit Totalled (Quit: PETTAN PETTAN, TSURUPETTAN!) 22.08.44 Join Totalled [0] (~Totalled@c-98-245-9-211.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 22.08.58 # Zagor: f8eb8c8 22.10.40 # hmm? which repo? 22.10.52 # http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=commit;h=f8eb8c8 22.11.45 # thanks 22.11.54 # no worries 22.14.44 Join perrikwp_ [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 22.15.40 Quit perrikwp (Read error: Operation timed out) 22.18.03 # nope, doesn't help 22.18.35 # Hi. I'm getting an Apache Error for the Online Manual links. http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansaclipzip/rockbox-build.html 22.19.57 # freqmod, you killed the commit message (it had a nice overview of done/todo)! :) 22.20.08 # :/ 22.20.15 # i don't like all this squashing 22.21.04 # KiwiCam: yeah they don't build right now. I'm trying to see why. 22.21.54 # freqmod, yeah I get the feeling that it should be possible to make cooperation a lot easier with git 22.22.35 # with plain git the development happens in a separate branch with merges between each developer 22.22.49 # and then it is merged to the upstream (master) branch 22.22.54 # It was just in case none had noticed. Got the PDF instead. All is good. 22.22.57 # bertrik: you can restore commit messages from the older patchsets 22.23.00 # Yes, gerrit isn't really suitable for more complex work 22.23.04 # but gerrit insists on all changes been made relative to the trunk 22.23.15 # it shouldnt have been lost if amended properly 22.23.21 # Zagor: Can't help I'm afraid, the html manual builds here 22.23.45 # Well, at least, the way we use gerrit isn't really suitable for more complex work 22.23.53 # gerrit is made for code review, not for collaboration 22.24.48 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@119.225.209.134) 22.25.44 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 22.26.03 # you should probably use github or so during development phase 22.28.29 # does github allow several people to commit to the same repo? 22.29.07 # yes 22.29.46 # I'd say we should consider seeing if we can use gerrit for non-master branches for this sort of thing 22.29.58 # i agree 22.30.27 # i think it allows restricting push access to non-master branches 22.31.23 Join hillshum [0] (~hillshum@69.169.150.25.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net) 22.31.45 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 22.33.25 # the review thingy in gerrit work exactly that way (at least as according to my understanding :) 22.33.36 # oh 22.33.39 # * bluebrother misread 22.33.53 # though it's not completely off :) 22.34.40 Quit perrikwp_ (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 22.36.41 Join perrikwp_ [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 22.36.48 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 22.40.25 Quit perrikwp_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.43.16 # hm 22.43.34 # why does CFLAGS not include TARGET_INC when generating dependencies for the db tool? 22.43.50 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 22.43.53 # it doesnt make sense to me, root.make adds it to CFLAGS at the very top 22.45.36 Join perrikwp_ [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 22.46.30 # ah, database.root overrides INCLUDES 22.48.19 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 22.54.36 # does anyone have an ipod with emcore and able to run ipodcrypt ? 23.01.56 Part amayer 23.09.09 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 23.09.10 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 23.09.12 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 23.09.13 Quit Mir (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.09.56 Join Miche [0] (~miche@unaffiliated/miche) 23.10.05 Quit Bagder (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 23.10.31 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 23.10.35 Quit n17ikh (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 23.10.44 Join Mir [0] (~Mir@pool-71-109-217-252.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 23.11.19 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@128.204.195.239) 23.11.20 Quit n17ikh (Changing host) 23.11.20 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@unaffiliated/n17ikh) 23.12.06 Quit uwe_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.12.42 Quit keenerd (Remote host closed the connection) 23.12.49 Join keenerd [0] (~kyle@67-23-13-172.static.slicehost.net) 23.13.10 Join uwe_ [0] (~uwe_@dslb-088-064-209-125.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.16.10 Quit kevku (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 23.21.00 # it appears just updating latex fixed it. we'll see in the morning. 23.33.44 Join TheDarkPirate [0] (~ricardo@135.245.8.6) 23.33.45 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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