--- Log for 03.09.112 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 0 hours ago 00.02.26 # i noticed that too, while translating 00.03.05 # another example is "Ok" and "Cancel" string in almost every form 00.04.55 Join fyre^OS [0] (~nnscript@cpe-67-244-91-182.nyc.res.rr.com) 00.05.52 Join thegeek_ [0] (~thegeek@171.17.9.46.customer.cdi.no) 00.06.33 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.06.34 Quit thegeek (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.07.30 Quit megal0maniac (Remote host closed the connection) 00.19.29 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 00.19.37 Join Thra11_ [0] (~thrall@172.246.125.91.dyn.plus.net) 00.19.55 Quit Wardo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.22.31 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.27.12 Quit ender` (Quit: There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson) 00.29.47 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@87.115.95.134) 00.31.29 Quit Thra11_ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 01.01.52 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 01.04.30 Quit T44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.08.06 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f048006052.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.12.25 Quit soap (Quit: soap) 01.19.10 Quit GermanMushroom (Quit: Ik ga weg) 01.29.20 Quit guymann (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.35.27 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 01.38.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.20.06 Join thaicares_ [0] (44386c9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.56.108.154) 02.21.06 # hello 02.21.19 Quit thaicares_ (Client Quit) 02.32.59 Join thaicares_ [0] (44386c9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.56.108.154) 02.33.22 # So how would I go about getting rockbox on an unsupported device? 02.33.34 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort 02.33.54 # take it apart, work out how it works, write the code 02.33.55 # :) 02.34.43 # couldn 02.35.35 # couldn't I just try a version on similar hardware? that is what I was originally thinking but I don't know how to determine if the device is similar... 02.35.54 # there is almost certainly nothing similar 02.36.16 # at least, not similar enough to boot 02.36.32 # devices often use a lot of the same peripherals/etc, but even if htey are basde on the same exact chip everything will be connected differentl 02.36.43 # it's not like a pc; the software has to know everything about that unique hardware 02.38.23 # gotcha haven't worked with this at all so... yayh 02.38.53 # is there any other open/free firmware solutions that I might be able to check out? 02.39.09 # not really, no 02.39.21 # what is the device? 02.39.43 # iWave 02.46.38 Quit thaicares_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03.29.56 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 03.38.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.10.23 Join Gallomimia [0] (~Gallo@38.108.79.34) 04.16.39 Join soap [0] (~soap@cpe-174-102-110-153.woh.res.rr.com) 04.16.46 Quit soap (Changing host) 04.16.46 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 04.19.09 Join Gallomimia_ [0] (~Gallo@38.108.87.20) 04.21.58 Join TheSphin_ [0] (~briehl@p5B32181D.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.22.31 Quit Gallomimia (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 04.22.32 Nick Gallomimia_ is now known as Gallomimia (~Gallo@38.108.87.20) 04.22.53 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 04.26.09 Quit zz_TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.27.17 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@119.225.209.134) 04.28.56 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@cpe-071-071-080-056.triad.res.rr.com) 04.28.56 Quit sinthetek (Changing host) 04.28.56 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@unaffiliated/sinthetek) 04.34.22 Join Nick [0] (~Nick@adsl-68-72-11-241.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) 04.34.46 Nick Nick is now known as Guest155 (~Nick@adsl-68-72-11-241.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) 04.34.48 Nick Guest155 is now known as Nick_Nuri (~Nick@adsl-68-72-11-241.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) 04.36.13 Join darkham [0] (~darkham@host19-178-dynamic.56-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 04.44.41 # Hey, I'm new to Rockbox, Got a 6th Gen iPod Classic 160 GB. At first it was Great playing the Vids but then it got buggy, the Audio to Video tracking, one ends up lagging and it's starting to bum me out. Any advice on the Best Tips, Tricks, and Software to translate AVI and M4A to MPEG-I? That and where to find a Manual for it cause I've had it installed for awhile and I'm still finding new things. 04.45.12 # (Darn didn't post it all) 04.46.09 # Hey, I'm new to Rockbox, Got a 6th Gen iPod Classic 160 GB. At first it was Great playing the Vids but then it got buggy, the Audio to Video tracking, one ends up lagging and it's starting to bum me out. 04.46.14 # Any advice on the Best Tips, Tricks, and Software to translate AVI and M4A to MPEG-I? 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This would be very useful when rockbox is stuck. You can interrupt on any irq, check for a key combination for example. 11.11.41 # you could register systick function to do that 11.12.28 # but if the system is stuck it may not hit this. It would need to be combined with watchdog imo 11.27.45 Quit n1s (Read error: Connection timed out) 11.39.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.41.01 Quit XavierGr () 12.29.53 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f048237206.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.32.46 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 13.01.48 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@146.90.135.35) 13.09.23 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8) 13.15.41 Join stainful [0] (~5f1d9131@www.haxx.se) 13.20.50 # Hello. I have a problem with rockbox on ipod mini 2nd gen and i hope somebody can give me an advice. The problem is it won't turn on after rockbox shutdown. 13.21.17 # It turns on when i plug the cable in though. 13.21.34 # And works as expected with original firmware. 13.22.21 Join megal0maniac [0] (~quassel@dsl-244-151-250.telkomadsl.co.za) 13.23.06 # And rockbox worked fine back in ~2009 when on this ipod. I tried to install previous versions of rockbox but no luck. 13.28.34 # also sorry for my english :) 13.37.19 # FS#12743 seems pretty major 13.37.20 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12743 3'Data Abort' on USB connection (bugs, unconfirmed) 13.39.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.39.15 # any updates pending for the ipod nano 2G ? 13.39.22 # like the usb charger issue? 13.40.14 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 13.40.15 Quit n1s (Changing host) 13.40.15 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 13.43.53 # kugel, ds-bluebot: do you mean this is relevant in my case? 13.48.49 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-154-13.26-151.libero.it) 13.48.49 Quit TheLemonMan (Changing host) 13.48.49 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@unaffiliated/thelemonman) 13.58.12 Quit yosafbridge (Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)) 14.01.58 Join Rower85 [0] (husvagn@82.196.99.90) 14.02.04 Join yosafbridge [0] (~yosafbrid@li125-242.members.linode.com) 14.10.21 Quit linuxstb (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 14.11.19 Join linuxstb [0] (~linuxstb@host86-136-64-97.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) 14.32.29 Join Thra11_ [0] (~thrall@183.1.113.87.dyn.plus.net) 14.35.20 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.36.14 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@146.90.10.83) 14.39.32 Quit Thra11_ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 14.43.10 Join Thra11_ [0] (~thrall@87.114.242.190) 14.43.20 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 14.56.32 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@rockbox/user/saint) 14.57.14 Quit stainful (Quit: CGI:IRC) 15.18.16 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 15.39.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.43.42 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 15.55.02 Nick [Saint] is now known as Guest37314 (~Saint]@rockbox/user/saint) 15.58.46 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 16.00.10 Quit mortalis (Quit: Leaving) 16.33.05 Part LinusN 16.34.57 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 16.37.20 Quit soap (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.44.57 Quit Guest37314 (Remote host closed the connection) 16.45.06 Quit Thra11_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.46.24 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@87.114.242.190) 16.48.10 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@e179138062.adsl.alicedsl.de) 16.55.05 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 17.05.29 Quit Unhelpful (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 17.06.48 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 17.12.59 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.15.52 Join pedro_angelo [0] (~pedro_ang@201-29-195-109.user.veloxzone.com.br) 17.37.46 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 17.38.44 Quit CIA-9 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 17.39.06 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@87.112.173.49) 17.39.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.46.54 Join CIA-9 [0] (cia@cia.vc) 17.56.52 Quit linuxstb (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 17.59.03 Join linuxstb [0] (~linuxstb@host86-136-64-97.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) 18.28.07 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.32.19 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.39.18 Join GermanMushroom [0] (~c@s5146db6a.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 18.47.35 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 18.48.58 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 19.05.30 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 19.08.30 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8) 19.10.54 Quit perrikwp (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.10.58 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 19.10.58 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 19.10.58 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 19.15.55 Quit sakax (Remote host closed the connection) 19.19.11 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@234.231.125.91.dyn.plus.net) 19.28.40 Join XavierGr [0] (~xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 19.38.05 Quit AlexP (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 19.39.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.45.11 Join pamaury_ [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 19.45.57 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 19.49.31 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 19.59.15 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 20.01.25 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 20.03.04 Nick [7] is now known as [7|B0T] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 20.03.08 Nick [7|B0T] is now known as [7] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 20.04.59 Quit megal0maniac (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.06.22 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 20.06.22 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 20.06.22 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 20.06.30 Quit froggyman (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 20.06.30 Join froggyman [0] (~froggyman@jelly.whatbox.ca) 20.06.30 Quit pamaury_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.07.50 Nick froggyman is now known as Guest25754 (~froggyman@jelly.whatbox.ca) 20.10.56 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 20.25.27 Join Thra11_ [0] (~thrall@87.114.25.29) 20.28.20 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 20.28.31 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20.28.44 Quit FOAD (Quit: I'll be back) 20.29.01 Join FOAD [0] (~foad@83.161.135.61) 20.29.01 Quit FOAD (Changing host) 20.29.01 Join FOAD [0] (~foad@unaffiliated/foad) 20.31.25 # Bagder: ping 20.31.48 Quit Thra11_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 20.35.12 Join Thra11_ [0] (~thrall@87.114.84.55) 20.38.53 Join [Saint_] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 20.43.40 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21.05.22 Quit Thra11_ (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 21.18.06 # pamaury: Well, we are still in freeze, we haven't even brnached yet 21.18.18 # The original plan was to branch yesterday, release next weekend 21.18.19 Join Thra11_ [0] (~thrall@87.114.84.55) 21.18.26 # But with the USB issues we can't release 21.21.22 Nick [Saint_] is now known as [Saint] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 21.23.07 Quit Thra11_ (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 21.23.08 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@46.208.221.163) 21.34.46 Join [Saint_] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 21.35.15 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 21.35.20 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 21.36.00 Quit [Saint_] (Client Quit) 21.36.17 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 21.39.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.42.42 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 21.49.28 Join sakax [0] (~sakax@78-22-77-137.access.telenet.be) 21.49.28 Quit y4n (Quit: 6,000,000 ways to die — choose one.) 21.51.28 # where can i follow the development of the ipod nano 2g? 21.52.16 Quit ender` (Quit: Arguing that Java is better than C++ is like arguing that grasshoppers taste better than tree bark. -- Thant Tessman) 21.54.40 Join megal0maniac [0] (~vwmazfa@41.48.192.123) 21.55.30 # sakax: Here 21.55.37 # Sometimes on the dev list 21.55.44 # and by watching the commits 21.56.21 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 21.56.57 Quit Guest25754 (Changing host) 21.56.57 Join Guest25754 [0] (~froggyman@unaffiliated/froggyman) 21.57.01 Nick Guest25754 is now known as froggyman (~froggyman@unaffiliated/froggyman) 21.57.31 # ok 22.26.08 # AlexP: what are the targets where the usb issue has been seen ? what do they have in common ? 22.26.24 # I don't know anything more than the bug report says 22.33.45 # sansa c250 mini2g and ipodvideo all use the arc driver, that's definitely a common factor. 22.34.25 # How many others use it? 22.34.31 # ipod nano 2g also has an usb issue 22.34.37 # sakax: We know 22.34.41 # and they are all pp based 22.34.42 # But it isn't this 22.34.53 # AlexP: e200, fuzep, just to name a few 22.35.06 # pamaury: hmmm, quite a few 22.35.17 # I'll dig out my e200 and have a play 22.35.18 # usb works reliably on my fuze+, so I think it could be arc + pp related 22.35.37 # Are there any pp but not arc? 22.36.29 # AlexP: I don't think so - the USB stuff is physically part of the PP chip (IIUC) 22.36.37 # linuxstb: thanks 22.36.50 # how about beast? 22.38.04 # I can also try on mr100, e200, sa9200 and h10_5gb 22.38.21 # why on earth does every player need to use its own connector? :( 22.40.21 # full list: ipodmini1g ipodvideo sansaview gogearsa9200 ipod4g ipodmini2g samsungyh820 sansac200 iriverh10_5gb tatungtpj1022 samsungyh925 vibe500 sansafuzeplus samsungyh920 gogearhdd6330 iriverh10 creativezenxfi3 sansae200 gigabeats ipodcolor creativezenxfi2 mrobe100 ipodnano1g gogearhdd1630 22.40.52 # list of players using the arc driver? 22.40.59 # yes 22.41.22 # unfortunately I don't have any pp+arc player anymore 22.42.58 # crash on sa9200 22.43.11 # any idea what settings? 22.44.51 # that's impressive, most players of this list are pp based 22.44.57 # AlexP: I think we can't enable USB reboot on AMSv2 because it causes lot of problems 22.45.10 # I'm trying to find the details right now and will answer your mail 22.45.54 # AlexP: no, but I can copy config.cfg off of the device :) 22.46.16 # crap, most devices want to get charged first :( 22.47.05 # funman: Thanks 22.47.58 # AlexP: 322fdaa31638dfb977c01591c7ba043adff685f6 22.48.28 # the most recent change to the arc driver is git-svn-id: svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk@30811 a1c6a512-1295-4272-9138-f99709370657 it's about a second usb_drv_init needed with some devices. It's was suspicious at the time but it's quite old so I think we would have known before if it was broken, except if this bug is old too 22.48.49 # funman: OK, ta 22.49.26 # hmm, it's only ipod video though 22.49.31 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-32-53.dynamic.chello.pl) 22.50.31 # appart from bisecting I see no way of finding... 22.50.40 # The most weird thing is connection of the usb issue with some settings. 22.51.00 # maybe some ugly memory corruption issue? 22.51.08 # I recall some themes used to to affect usb as well 22.51.13 # btw, did anyone bisect the nano2g issue sometime in the past? 22.51.23 # bluebrother: yes 22.51.56 # bluebrother: n2g was broken by more general usb rework. 22.52.32 # I really hate my nano2g crashing everytime I forget to boot into EDM 22.52.59 Join lebellium_ [0] (~chatzilla@g231223049.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.55.40 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 22.55.53 Nick lebellium_ is now known as lebellium (~chatzilla@g231223049.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.56.39 Quit megal0maniac (Quit: Virca 1.1.20) 22.57.03 # My e200v1 won't crash :) 22.57.12 # Time to play with the settings 22.58.02 # why on earth does every player need to use its own connector? :( > EU is working on this I guess 22.58.41 # isnt Europe creating some kind of law to forbid modified USB cables like apple is usings 22.58.45 # same applies for charges 22.58.49 # chargers* 22.58.55 # about time 22.58.58 # I can't see how they can 22.59.11 # They've got most people to use micro USB for charging 22.59.23 # But it is impractical to force a certain connector 22.59.40 # they won't force a certain connector 22.59.55 # if microusb, microusb will be fine 23.00.14 # I can see reasons for using some kind of dock connector 23.00.24 # I don't understand what you are saying then 23.00.26 # but not like apple is doing by using usb and modifying it to some kind of apple USD cable 23.00.33 # but the weirdest thing is the sa9200 and e200 using the same connector ... with different pinning! 23.00.39 # sakax: Are they? 23.00.44 # yes 23.00.49 # They just have their connector include the USB pins 23.00.58 # Apple uses their dock connector since ages 23.00.58 # How else would they have it connect to usb? 23.01.18 # and that connector holds other stuff as well. Like Firewire (on the older Ipods), Line out etc 23.02.21 # well im not a tech guy but what is the ipod cable doing besides serving charging and usb data transfer purposes? 23.02.34 # line out, firewire, ... 23.02.36 # firewire 23.02.38 # line out 23.02.47 # there are loads of things on the dock connector 23.02.53 # s/pdif, no? 23.03.05 # Not afaik. There's line-in though. 23.03.09 # (on most) 23.03.11 # ok 23.03.37 # linuxstb: Was there not some form of digital audio? 23.04.01 # * bluebrother can't remember some digital out on Ipods 23.04.11 # ok - but they should be forced to have a general usb charging option 23.04.11 # I don't think so, no. 23.04.12 # maybe not then :) 23.04.32 # I still can't get this e200 to crash 23.04.47 # some control-y bits were on the connector too 23.04.51 # I have noticed something very recently: when leaving usb mode I get an error message about rockbox being unable to open the playlist control file, it happens between disconnection and usb screen disappearing; could that be related ? 23.05.29 # i think there were some video out stuff too on later ipods 23.05.31 # * linuxstb tries to end speculation - http://ipl.derpapst.eu/wiki/Dock_Connector 23.05.35 # pamaury: I think that's been there a while 23.06.05 # pamaury: http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=commit;h=53c6bab ? 23.06.06 # I tried to fix it with a quick fix, but it's really a more fundamental problem 23.08.17 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@146.90.67.8) 23.08.51 # yeah, files left open are a real problem 23.13.14 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 23.15.47 # what's the best price/quality rockbox'able mp3 player today similar like a ipod nano 2g (meaning small with at least 10gb flash) ? 23.16.08 # clip zip/fuse plus 23.16.16 # I think 23.18.33 # hmmm, frequency scaling on fuze+ is unstable, I think I'll need to disable it 23.21.06 Join Unhelpful [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/Unhelpful) 23.25.36 # ok, I've added a bunch of additional data points to FS#12743 23.25.36 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12743 3'Data Abort' on USB connection (bugs, unconfirmed) 23.25.57 # on mini2g it doesn't happen if I load the configuration after resetting 23.27.05 # brb 23.27.22 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 23.28.06 # pamaury: I guess it's related -- see my results 23.29.25 # hmm. Reload playlist control file -- has it been closed properly before connect? 23.34.08 # bluebrother: so what is the conclusion of your tests ? 23.34.15 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.35.59 # pamaury: not sure. Maybe loading settings on start does something different than loading later, with the former overwriting some USB related memory? 23.36.36 # I guess I should try to bisect that. But not tonight, need to get some sleep -- I have a headache since a couple of hours :( 23.36.37 # something in .init sections that shouldn't be there ? 23.37.19 # Stating the obvious but I'll try to see if I find something suspicious 23.37.42 # ah, something startup code related? Hmm, why not? 23.38.19 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 23.38.39 # anyway, out for sleep. 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