--- Log for 07.09.112 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 8 days and 0 hours ago 00.08.56 Join megal0maniac [0] (~quassel@dsl-244-150-18.telkomadsl.co.za) 00.09.18 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 00.09.28 Join pedro_angelo [0] (~pedro_ang@201-29-195-109.user.veloxzone.com.br) 00.24.47 Quit Guest37984 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.29.03 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@119.225.209.134) 00.38.11 Quit Scromple (Quit: Leaving) 00.39.36 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-182-168.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 00.39.50 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.53.33 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@119.225.209.134) 01.09.56 Quit ender` (Quit: Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice doggie" until you can find a rock. -- Will Rogers) 01.33.19 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8) 01.40.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.49.51 Quit GermanMushroom (Quit: Ik ga weg) 02.01.17 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 02.03.22 Quit Scromple (Quit: Leaving) 02.09.56 Join sc_ [0] (~sc@tt6.net) 02.16.43 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@119.225.209.134) 02.27.06 Quit megal0maniac (Remote host closed the connection) 03.20.50 Quit pedro_angelo (Remote host closed the connection) 03.34.07 Join Totalled [0] (~Totalled@c-98-245-9-211.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 03.40.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.57.22 # <[Saint]> is there any up-to-date information available re: 'required packages to compile the manual'? 03.57.43 # <[Saint]> http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/LatexInstallation#Debian_47_Ubuntu refers to a few packages that don't exist anymore. 03.59.29 # <[Saint]> I'd like to know the required packages, rather than doing what I did last time and blindly pull in pretty much everything related to latex *-dev 04.12.30 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@p579CC94F.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.15.51 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04.36.32 Quit eckoit (Quit: eckoit) 04.45.52 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.45.52 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.45.57 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.46.49 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.46.50 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.46.52 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 05.08.07 Part amayer 05.16.48 Join eckoit [0] (~ryan@50.65.10.24) 05.18.30 Join nosa [0] (~m00k@184.76.254.130) 05.18.57 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 05.26.53 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 05.27.02 Join [7] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.38.38 Quit XavierGr () 05.41.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.43.41 Quit Scromple (Quit: Leaving) 05.48.04 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@119.225.209.134) 06.02.19 Join pedro_angelo [0] (~pedro_ang@201-29-195-109.user.veloxzone.com.br) 06.29.32 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Quit) 06.32.27 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 06.42.46 Quit Rower85 (Quit: Hmmm...) 06.43.57 Quit pedro_angelo (Remote host closed the connection) 07.30.41 Join mortalis [0] (~mortalis@195.34.194.126.kalibroao.ru) 07.38.01 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 07.38.19 Quit bluebrother (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 07.39.17 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g226071237.adsl.alicedsl.de) 07.40.17 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 07.41.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.58.50 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@sestofw01.enea.se) 07.58.50 Quit Zagor (Changing host) 07.58.50 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.40.42 Join kevku [0] (x@indeed.tastes.like.everything.mm.am) 08.48.12 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 08.49.24 Quit dfkt_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 08.52.37 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 09.05.14 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.05.53 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.06.53 Join pystar89 [0] (~pystar89@ip-5-146-40-148.unitymediagroup.de) 09.07.05 Quit Scromple (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.07.48 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 09.20.17 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 09.20.17 Quit n1s (Changing host) 09.20.17 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 09.30.53 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 09.30.53 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 09.30.53 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 09.31.21 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-154-27.26-151.libero.it) 09.31.21 Quit TheLemonMan (Changing host) 09.31.21 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@unaffiliated/thelemonman) 09.35.29 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 09.41.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.47.18 Quit n1s (Read error: Connection timed out) 09.48.06 Quit kevku (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 10.04.33 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 10.04.33 Quit n1s (Changing host) 10.04.33 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 10.11.37 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10.12.38 Part LinusN 10.12.48 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 10.54.09 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@sphinx.lix.polytechnique.fr) 10.54.10 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 10.54.10 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.02.16 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.05.20 Join megal0maniac [0] (~quassel@dsl-244-150-18.telkomadsl.co.za) 11.20.23 Join rvdk [0] (~rvdk@095-097-203-122.static.chello.nl) 11.20.35 # hey guys just installed rock box on my iPod 4th gen. Does anyone know if it is possible to turn off the screen after X amount of inactivity even though it is still playing? The screen always stays on and can't seem to find an option to set this somewhere. 11.30.03 # rvdk: by default it should do that, there is an option in settings > display most probably, of settings > general settings > display, can't remember 11.31.06 # settings > general settings > display > main lcd > backlight 11.32.26 # it's not implemented for all targets and might be missing on that one 11.32.37 # is it the grayscale 4th gen? 11.33.16 # @n1s yes it is the grayscale 4th gen 11.33.45 # I see the backlight options, but that just sets the backlight and not the 'screen' 11.34.36 Join webguest15 [0] (~7d16c192@www.haxx.se) 11.36.55 # rvdk: it's not implemented on that player 11.38.15 # the actual lcd takes very little power, the baclight is the important thing 11.40.00 Quit webguest15 (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 11.40.14 # ah thanks for clarifying, i will just set the backlight then. There is so much to discover…. 11.41.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.47.28 Join Rower85 [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-90.bitnet.nu) 11.49.10 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 11.53.21 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 11.53.21 Quit n1s (Changing host) 11.53.21 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 12.01.48 Join GermanMushroom [0] (~c@s5146db6a.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 12.48.01 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 12.49.32 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,26284.msg203145.html#msg203145 looks interesting. It looks again like some memory corruption. Maybe it has the same origin as usb problems... 12.55.54 # seems like there is some nasty memory problem hiding somewhere 12.56.14 # wodz: sounds like it could be some state that the playback engine sets that voice depends on but isn't setting itself 12.57.11 # It would be interesting to know what "broken" means in thsi case 13.00.52 # I guess 'not spoken' 13.02.26 # kugel_: btw, why memset() on properly acquired pointer from buflib allocation might cause problems? I don't get it. 13.04.50 # because the pointer is not valid ? 13.05.03 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 13.05.10 # could have to do with the usb driver still corrupting the memory before/after, or something like that 13.07.52 # but why it is not valid? voice_buf_hid = core_alloc_ex("voice buf", sizeof (*voice_buf), &ops); voice_buf = core_get_data(voice_buf_hid); memset(voice_buf, 0, sizeof (*voice_buf)); 13.08.15 # It looks pretty reasonable to assume You can memset() the allocation 13.09.50 Quit rvdk (Quit: rvdk) 13.09.54 # because usb drivers like ums use the audio buffer to transfer data. if for some reason the usb controller is still active, it can corrupt the memory used by the audio buf (which is allocated by core_*) 13.11.57 # Interesting theory 13.12.29 # that's just a thought, the usb controller should be disabled at this point, but I can't think of anything else 13.18.46 # But in this case memset() should not change anything. It is called only during thread creation 13.19.35 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.19.47 Join thegeek [0] (~thegeek@171.17.9.46.customer.cdi.no) 13.21.50 # wodz: you yesterday's patch doesn't help. Maybe compiler calculate values in "right" order and overflow doesn't happened, so that's not an issue. 13.22.21 # i think it could be some sort of memory/aligment problem. 13.22.55 # for expample everything works with this patch http://pastebin.com/gc6nq5dF 13.23.09 # which actually do nothing 13.25.00 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 13.26.03 # mortalis: thats odd 13.29.56 # mortalis: you could insert nops to see if this is alignment problem 13.37.33 # freqmod: bertrik: with derf's patch and codec stack size hack removed, I can play all the opus samples I have 13.38.25 # some failure cases play while amithkk 13.38.36 # * funman erases previous message 13.39.09 # testvector01.bit.opus doesn't play at all though 13.41.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.42.53 # "amithkk"? 14.11.56 Quit eckoit (Quit: eckoit) 14.13.51 Join amayer_ [0] (~alex@mail.weberadvertising.com) 14.15.07 # funman: You're always using the multichannel decoder, right? 14.25.56 # "amithkk" = someone smashed his head on the keyboard 14.26.10 # I am not sure, the 6 channels samples sound like crap 14.29.11 # 6.opus and tron.6ch*.opus don't play at all 14.29.26 # shinjuku.uncoupled.opus plays like crap 14.29.49 Quit factor (Quit: Leaving) 14.30.18 # our decoder has no LOGF or DEBUG so I don't know how to have potential error messages from it 14.30.27 # funman: I suspect you're overflowing the global stack buffer for multichannel files. 14.30.39 # I should have a fix shortly. 14.31.31 Join bootlkhtg [0] (~Prmhfhfx@92.39.204.151) 14.34.32 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 14.39.13 Join pedro_angelo [0] (~pedro_ang@201-29-195-109.user.veloxzone.com.br) 14.50.59 Join Unhelpful [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/Unhelpful) 15.17.55 Part LinusN 15.26.21 Join Erdon [0] (~x@public25741.xdsl.centertel.pl) 15.32.21 Quit pedro_angelo (Remote host closed the connection) 15.41.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.45.16 Quit mortalis (Quit: Leaving) 15.50.32 Quit Erdon (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.02.10 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 16.08.20 Join kevku [0] (x@indeed.tastes.like.everything.mm.am) 16.24.29 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 16.34.53 Join ungali [0] (~8e6ee3a3@www.haxx.se) 17.20.46 Quit ungali (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 17.28.19 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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Each has its own voices and can't use the other ones' voices 20.27.09 # amiconn: You have reported some voice related problems, am I correct? 20.30.16 # Yes, but bluebrother was unableto reproduce them 20.31.12 # I though it's enabing the "voice menus" option from a .cfg, but apparently it isn't (the .cfg in question contains several options) 20.31.42 # So I need to do a coupe of tests (which I probably won't have time for this weekend) 20.49.25 Quit WalkGood (Quit: ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪) 21.14.00 Quit pretty_function (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.14.23 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.214.92) 21.30.55 # * bluebrother looks around 21.31.16 # ah, could be an 64bit issue -- Rockbox Utility is a 32bit application 21.33.31 # amiconn: after that Speech Platform 11 mail on the ML I had a short look into it. Figured that replacing SAPI.SpVoice with speech.SpVoice might even be enough to use this Platform 11 thing 21.33.45 # I get a "could not get SpVoice object 21.33.59 # and I'm on W7 64bit 21.34.20 # so maybe the same binary works on a 32bit machine. Guess I'll just have to try :) 21.34.57 # otoh, Rockbox Utility calls cscript. So even if it is a 32bit application, shouldn't it use the default (i.e. 64bit) cscript thing? 21.39.14 # huh? I don't see any output at all on W7 32bit? 21.40.33 # though when running sapi_voice.vbs from a cmd prompt I get voices listed. So pretty much the same behaviour as yesterday 21.41.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.51.21 # * bluebrother slaps forhead 21.53.29 # it _does_ work on W7 32bit 21.54.07 # well, sort of. There is a problem with the separator used since the voices installed from MS also include that. But that should be easily fixable :) 21.57.35 Quit bootlkhtg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.01.32 # nice. It seems to work if I install the 32bit Speech Platform Runtime on 64bit Windows :) 22.09.23 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 22.09.41 # wtf? MS Hazel talks "FM Radio" as "Field Marshall Radio" :o 22.12.10 # lol 22.15.09 # nice, it does work \o/ 22.15.25 # * bluebrother is surprised how simple it is to add support for this thingy 22.17.07 # hmm. But why doesn't it find any german voice? I do have one installed. 22.17.22 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@f052145068.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.17.56 Quit lebellium (Remote host closed the connection) 22.18.49 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@f052145068.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.19.10 Join megal0maniac [0] (~quassel@dsl-244-150-194.telkomadsl.co.za) 22.19.17 # works on 32bit. Maybe I need to reboot after installing the voice? 22.19.35 Quit pretty_function (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 22.25.04 # too bad. Rebooting didn't fix it :( 22.26.25 # If it's a 32 bit voice you need to call 32 bit sapi in order to find and use it 22.26.54 # this speech platform thing doesn't have voices assigned to 32bit or 64bit 22.27.23 # the only thing that is dependent is the runtime -- I installed the 32bit runtime (on a 64bit machine) earlier and that made it work for the english voices 22.28.23 # and neither Rockbox Utility nor calling sapi_voice.vbs directly shows me the voice 22.28.36 # so I think there is another issue here. 22.30.00 # perhaps the language string differs? 22.30.50 # otoh that doesn't explain why it works on 32bit W7 22.40.17 # but works fine for the french voice I just installed. Looks like an issue with the german voice ... 22.42.33 # ok, got it working. Seems something went wrong when installing the german voice -- didn't show up in control panel either 22.43.15 # so this means: we can support this Speech Platform 11 with only a few change. On 64bit you need to install the 32bit runtime for it, since Rockbox Utility is a 32bit application. 22.43.19 # but I think that's acceptable 22.50.43 Quit amayer_ (Remote host closed the connection) 22.54.05 Join lebellium_ [0] (~chatzilla@f052242088.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.56.28 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 22.56.43 Nick lebellium_ is now known as lebellium (~chatzilla@f052242088.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.08.14 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 23.08.19 Join perrikwp_ [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 23.09.04 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 16.0/20120904124322]) 23.09.48 Quit y4n (Quit: HOLY SHIT! WE'RE ALL JUST LIVING ON A GINORMOUS FUCKING SPINNING ROCK FLOATING THROUGH SPACE CIRCLING A BIG FUCKING BALL OF FIRE!!!) 23.11.54 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@unaffiliated/thelemonman) 23.34.03 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-182-168.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 23.41.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.43.07 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@h84.26.25.72.ip.windstream.net) 23.43.18 Join soap [0] (~soap@cpe-174-102-110-153.woh.res.rr.com) 23.43.18 Quit soap (Changing host) 23.43.18 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 23.43.58 Join Relondo [0] (~Relondo@va-76-4-86-137.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) 23.44.56 # So I tried installing Rockbox on my Sansa Fuze v2, and every time it prompts me for the necessary firmware file from the SanDisk website, I point it to the file, and am given the error "Cannot Write Firmware" 23.46.46 # *"Can't Write Firmware File" 23.50.42 # do you have write permissions as well as free space on disk? 23.51.21 # Should have write permissions. How much space does Rockbox need? 23.52.54 # It is about writing patched original firmware in order to install bootloader 23.53.40 # Okay. Well, I only have 2 Gigs on the player itself, but a 16 Gig MicroSD card. I can try moving the music to the card and freeing up the player itself. 23.54.09 # But there is over a gig of space on the player for Rockbox. 23.54.17 # thats plenty 23.54.48 # Hm. How can I tell if I have write permissions, then? 23.55.08 # try saving some file 23.55.28 # I'v e already moved plenty of music over. Both to the player and the SD card. 23.55.41 # Should I run Rockbox as root? 23.56.07 # you mean rockbox utility, right? 23.56.12 # (I'm on Linux, by the way. If that makes a difference.) 23.56.14 # Yeah. 23.56.17 # apparently my mailing list sort filters are out of date. Was the iRiverH300 thread in -dev or -user? 23.57.20 # Relondo: you could try - I am not up to date with all install quirks 23.58.21 # Alright. Thanks.