--- Log for 23.09.112 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 24 days and 0 hours ago 00.00.40 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.09.08 Join fml [0] (~chatzilla@manz-590f0a7f.pool.mediaWays.net) 00.10.03 # bluebrother: Hello. There is a typo in the last commit for the German translation: "Eines oder mehrere__r__ Verzeichnisse auswählen" 00.29.00 Quit fml (Quit: Hope bluebrother will see this ^^^) 00.31.05 Join saratoga [0] (123e0cca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.12.202) 00.31.23 # is there any alternative spam filtering software we could use for the forums? 00.32.18 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.33.09 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-187-142.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 00.34.46 # Not without someone having to integrate it into the code 00.35.27 # would a manual new user acceptance scheme like for the wiki be doable? 00.37.19 # I don't think that would work very well. 00.37.42 # Well, not if they have to ask on irc, I mean 00.37.44 # yeah that would be tough 00.38.03 # I don't know if SMF has moderator approval features 00.38.20 # who has access to the database software? 00.38.38 # scorche 00.38.47 # so he'd have to implement anything new? 00.39.23 # He'd have to be involved. It's perfectly possible to implement stuff on a test setup though 00.39.39 # i was thining just banning people who post links in russian on their first post would do nicely 00.39.52 # most of the spam getting through seems to be the same bot 00.40.29 # hmm, maybe 00.41.02 # or ban anyone with an ICQ number 00.41.12 # since that bot always inserts one 00.41.13 Quit eckoit (Quit: eckoit) 00.41.43 # most of the bots i see look like this: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=profile;u=41753 00.41.59 # seems like a simple DB query could locate these users and simply ban or lock them out pending manual approval 00.42.23 # can't imagine many people legitimately link to a website, put a web link in their sign and have an ICQ number 00.42.27 # sig 00.42.40 # Not all of them have URLs in the signature though 00.42.51 # The mass spammers do, though 00.43.51 # do we have the ability to do a sanity check on new registrations? 00.44.00 # No idea 00.44.12 # would suck if it requires a lot of hacking 00.44.24 # * gevaerts nods 00.44.48 # every spammer on the first page of the the trash bin has an ICQ number 00.45.09 # Yes, but I don't know how many real people have one 00.45.34 # That's only a problem if you *only* use that to identify spammers of course 00.46.05 Join amayer [0] (~alex@h210.53.213.151.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) 00.46.09 # * gevaerts should have a look at the new topics page one of these days 00.46.22 # theres a couple people with an ICQ number (kugel has one) 00.46.37 # but no one active in many years that I can see with an ICQ number and a website link 00.46.50 # so realistically the odds of us banning a legit new user would be very, very low 00.47.26 # haha we'd ban bertrik though 00.48.15 # Hmm, there is an "awaiting approval" list, so presumably there's some infrastructure in place 00.49.03 # if(has_icq) then awaiting_approval =1 ? 00.50.14 # Hm, that seems to be an extension. My basic smf install doesn't have it 00.50.24 # So I can't find out how it works 00.51.47 # i'm pretty useless here, but getting the forums fixed would be really nice 00.52.00 # it makes our project look pretty inactive to have no new posts showing and a lot of spam 00.57.53 # OK, so apparently we can enable plain unconditional approval 01.03.15 # how does that work? 01.03.24 # one of us just approves them? 01.04.49 # That means yes 01.04.50 # yes 01.05.15 # That means doing things like auto-approve on certain conditions might not be too hard to implement 01.05.20 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 01.05.55 # yeah that would be great 01.09.07 # At first sight, it seems it all goes through the "is_activated" field in the database 01.09.21 # if we could autoapprove everyone who didn't have a link or an ICQ number in their profile that would probably be fine 01.09.35 # manually approving the odd account that picked off would easy enough 01.09.40 # Yes, that would definitely be a good start 01.10.04 # Anyway, that's for tomorrow. 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What is current status? 10.51.27 # wodz: nearly all the functions are reverse engineered (all but two, but these are the most "horrible"), I have checked some against live running also 10.51.34 # so hopefully nearly done 10.51.40 # but I still don't understand how it works 10.52.19 # I will be abroad next week but I'll try to work on it and I'll put some comment to summarize the current status 10.52.55 # I think the code can be rewritten in C++ with a "big number" class to make it much more readable 11.00.04 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 11.07.19 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 11.07.20 Quit n1s (Changing host) 11.07.20 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 11.40.50 Quit akaWolf (Quit: my exit) 11.41.46 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 11.41.51 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 11.44.09 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 11.45.28 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g231123058.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.49.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.51.41 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12.00.54 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@e179141214.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.14.49 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 12.21.01 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 12.24.28 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 12.30.00 Quit shai_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.32.18 Join shai [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 12.34.08 # bertrik: with some basic iram usage decoding the 64kbps opus file is 72% realtime up from 49% but i think i've spotted one major cause for slowness, all their fixed point macros use 16*16 multiplications so a regular 32*32 >> 31 multiply is done with three 16*16 mults and a bunch of bitfiddling 12.35.19 # looking at the fixed point header it references specific headers for various arm generations but those are not included in our tree, was that intentional? 12.37.25 # sorry, lookign at the "arch.h" header in celt 12.39.09 # n1s: I think I did notice some non-included header files too 12.39.43 # and I think they did make it possible to run stuff on 16-bit machines 12.39.55 # fixed_arm4.h and fixed_arm5e.h would be interesting 12.41.48 # bertrik: yeah, i'm just saying that it's pretty bad for our targets where we have fairly fast ways of doing a 32*32 mult and getting the top half of the result 12.48.18 # they are not in the libopus tarball either 12.53.25 Join sciopath [0] (~sciopath@yer91-2-82-237-54-159.fbx.proxad.net) 12.58.27 # what's the differente between "-" and "1" for the user font in themes? 12.58.33 # difference* 13.06.12 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5DD5727E.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.06.12 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 13.06.12 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 13.10.06 Quit ender` (Quit: I believe in free will, but I don't really have a choice.) 13.11.08 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E432F0.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.21.26 # build dependencies for opus seem broken, when just changing header files nothing is rebuilt 13.29.34 Quit mgottschlag (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 13.45.22 # yes, using 2 lines of asm for the most commonly used multiplication cut another 30MHz or so 13.49.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.57.35 Join GermanMushroom [0] (~c@s5146db6a.adsl.online.nl) 14.07.36 Join daci [0] (~4f7eddc2@www.haxx.se) 14.07.54 # Hi , is rocboz supported on iPod nano 5 gen ? 14.08.04 # *rockbox 14.08.20 # no 14.11.58 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 14.13.36 Quit daci (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 14.16.23 Join marco [0] (~4f7eddc2@www.haxx.se) 14.16.23 Quit marco (Client Quit) 14.16.36 Join dacmac [0] (~4f7eddc2@www.haxx.se) 14.17.01 # hi, will the ipod nano 5g be supported sometime in the future by rockbox ? 14.20.03 # dacmac: we don't know, perhaps if someone works on it 14.20.03 Quit dacmac (Client Quit) 14.29.08 Quit alexbobp (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 14.34.31 Join Rower85 [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-90.bitnet.nu) 14.49.28 Join mgottschlag [0] (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) 14.51.20 # hmm, i'm getting somewhat worrying errors in a very few samples with this emac asm 14.51.39 # like losing too much precision in some corner case 14.55.24 Join Piotr [0] (~Piotr_cha@91.214.1.124) 14.56.16 # I have to simple question can i ask something abaut sansa clip + 14.56.36 # sure 14.56.43 Quit mgottschlag (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 14.57.38 # If i install rockbox sansa clip will be moor laud on out moor mh? 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Mencken) 16.40.50 Join alexbobp [0] (~alex@capitalthree.pwnz.org) 16.51.44 Quit alexbobp (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 17.02.47 Join eckoit [0] (~ryan@50.65.10.24) 17.03.27 Quit eckoit (Client Quit) 17.16.16 # Still at £50 GBP http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/iPod-classic-6th-Gen-Silver-80-GB-Rockbox-Mod-/261101077320?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_PortableAudio_MP3Players&hash=item3ccad64348 17.17.04 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@unaffiliated/thelemonman) 17.19.15 Join XavierGr [0] (~xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 17.49.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.51.20 # n1s: nice work 17.52.15 # bertrik: i need to think a bit more about the cf asm, but the same macro in asm helped on arm a lot too 17.52.55 # for some reason i get a different checksum on arm than cf or the sim though (without the asm code too) 17.54.35 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 17.55.19 # about 0.1% of the samples have a small difference, looks like a rounding thing but it's a bit strange if its' the same c code 17.56.47 # hm, odd indeed 17.57.00 # they should both be using the same fixed point code I'd guess 18.05.39 Join Epicanis [0] (~Epicanis@static-72-95-113-7.port.east.myfairpoint.net) 18.13.49 # Commit e3cd7ec in rockbox by 03Bertrik Sikken: Remove unused include path for opus 18.23.34 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 18.29.40 Join alexbobp [0] (~alex@capitalthree.pwnz.org) 18.33.03 Join eckoit [0] (~ryan@50.65.10.24) 18.33.55 Nick Guest13832 is now known as sc_ (~sc@tt6.net) 18.35.47 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 18.45.37 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~briehl@p579CCB3E.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.49.38 Quit TheSphinX_ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 18.52.26 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.59.07 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~briehl@p5B323D91.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.09.24 Quit scorche (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 19.14.48 Quit perrikwp (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.15.28 Quit liar (Remote host closed the connection) 19.22.10 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@p579CC3BC.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.23.36 Join TheSphin- [0] (~briehl@p579CC43F.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.25.45 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 19.27.12 Quit TheSphinX_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.28.06 Quit TheSphin- (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.33.06 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~briehl@p5B3229C8.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.39.26 Quit advcomp2019 (Quit: Don't follow me) 19.48.59 Quit y4n (Disconnected by services) 19.49.06 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 19.49.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.30.18 Join saratoga_ [0] (123e0cca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.12.202) 20.36.52 Quit saratoga_ (Quit: Page closed) 20.44.13 # Has anyone tried to use %LB ? 20.45.48 # hm, did I confuse the build? 20.47.28 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 20.54.38 # can someone block/ban forum user ioganlopezz ? 20.56.27 # Done 21.02.45 Join pedro_angelo [0] (~pedro_ang@201-29-175-8.user.veloxzone.com.br) 21.14.40 Join Totalled [0] (~Totalled@c-98-245-9-211.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 21.15.41 Quit TheLemonMan (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 21.35.58 Quit y4n (Quit: PANTS OFF!) 21.49.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.53.08 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@c-76-22-63-234.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 21.56.32 Quit thegeek (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21.57.43 Quit literal_username (Quit: leaving) 21.58.33 Quit Wardo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.00.12 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@5.157.114.2) 22.00.13 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 22.00.13 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 22.07.12 Join thegeek [0] (~thegeek@171.17.9.46.customer.cdi.no) 22.09.55 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 22.12.35 Quit n1s (Read error: Connection timed out) 22.13.18 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 22.13.18 Quit n1s (Changing host) 22.13.18 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 22.26.02 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 22.29.08 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-32-53.dynamic.chello.pl) 22.29.21 # n1s, bertrik: http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/opus/2011-April/001514.html 22.31.16 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@cpe-024-211-185-030.nc.res.rr.com) 22.40.36 Quit Horschti (Quit: Verlassend) 22.46.38 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 22.49.55 Join mgottschlag [0] (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) 22.51.51 # The Rockbox Opus decoder doesn't like the --uncoupled encoder option. I have some samples that need to be encoded with two independent channels,, so I pass the --uncoupled option to opusenc. But Rockbox is playing the files as a series of chirps, scratches and garbled noise. Should I go ahead and report this as a bug, or is this being fixed already? 22.52.32 Quit GermanMushroom (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 22.53.58 Quit pedro_angelo (Remote host closed the connection) 22.55.47 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 22.55.48 Nick LittleCreature is now known as StopMakingSense (~fearofmus@unaffiliated/fearofmusic) 23.14.35 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@e179142107.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.38.41 # I just updated and uploaded my theme lebellium Samsung-like and the theme website says "doesn't work with current build" while it actually works! http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?target=sansafuze Any idea? 23.39.51 Quit kevku (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 23.43.31 # the-kyle: probably a good idea to file a bug report with a link to one of the files so that its documented and people have an easy way to reproduce it 23.46.25 # Ok will do. Thanks. 23.49.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.51.05 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat)