--- Log for 13.10.112 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 14 days ago 00.41.46 Quit mikroflops (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.43.30 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@h-34-27.a238.priv.bahnhof.se) 00.51.33 Quit crose (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.12.07 Quit ender` (Quit: The reason people use a crucifix against vampires is that vampires are allergic to bullshit. -- Richard Pryor) 01.19.23 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 01.19.58 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 01.26.02 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p54947D16.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.26.02 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 01.26.02 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 01.29.01 Quit Horscht (Client Quit) 01.30.06 Quit mgottschlag (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.34.42 Quit AlexP (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01.35.33 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 01.50.53 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.58.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.14.10 Quit 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10.19.02 Quit scorche (Disconnected by services) 10.19.07 Join scorche` [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 10.20.01 Join desolat [0] (~desolat@piratenpartei/be/desolat) 10.21.06 Join Guinness` [0] (Slayer@c-68-55-111-159.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 10.21.06 Quit Guinness (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.21.08 Nick Guinness` is now known as Guinness (Slayer@c-68-55-111-159.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 10.23.51 Quit Paretsky (Quit: See you.) 10.24.48 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.26.38 Quit Keripo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.30.42 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@c-76-22-63-234.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 10.31.31 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5DD57B11.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.31.31 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 10.31.31 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 10.43.10 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@host103-111-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 10.43.47 # kugel: indeeed that I need to explore another rockbox way if possible... so I would need to use HAVE_HOTSWAP or such? 10.46.34 # kugel: okay I should be able to insert this, indeed I did not really realized this possibility :) 10.48.40 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E425A1.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.54.25 # kugel: well at least I should issue a SYS_FS_CHANGED 10.54.32 # let's try... 11.00.27 # pamaury: yep, wassup? 11.02.11 # JdGordon: I would like to have a better integration of the fuze+ touchpad into the action system. I thought about having something like this: the target has to implement a, say, touchpad_read_device() which returns the state of the launchpad. Since the touchpad is not like the touchscreen, there would be a function in the target keymap which translate the position into a button. And the touchpad would two modes like the touchscreen: button or 11.02.12 # point 11.02.47 # Part of the reasons I want this: export touchpad through HID, debug touchpad code in the simulator 11.03.25 # does that sound sensible ? do you have suggestions ? 11.04.21 Quit Keripo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.04.23 # my suggestino would be do it similar to how the touchscreen is handled 11.04.51 # return BUTTON_TOUCHPADTHINGY and put the real value in the data, then have apps/ call get_button_data() when it is that button case 11.06.04 # yes, and where would you put the touchpad gesture handling (ie translation position into buttons) 11.07.05 # what does the touchpad actually provide? 11.07.14 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@c-76-22-63-234.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 11.07.16 # raw position 11.07.28 # how is it different to a touchscreen then? 11.07.44 # because it does not meaning anything for the screen 11.07.57 # if you want to do gestures you should probably hook into action.c, in umm... 11.07.58 # one sec 11.08.13 # not all touchpad would behave nicely with the grid mode for example 11.09.21 # in get_action() 11.09.34 # gestures ideally should work withj touchscreen + touchpad 11.10.46 # I was thinking about the gesture handling handled in the keymaps/ and perhaps have a generic library for it, so that you easily plug a grid mode by default but have something better if you want 11.13.30 # you';d have to do the gesture checking in get_action_worker() then 11.13.34 # but yeah, that could be cool 11.14.33 # ok, then I'll come up with a proof of concept and we'll discuss it at that point 11.15.12 # looking forward to it :) 11.15.39 # currently can you debug the touchscreen in the simulator or not ? 11.15.55 # I'm a bit worried about how gestures will work with skin buttons, but we'll see 11.15.57 # yes 11.16.06 # the mouse acts as the touch 11.29.42 Join mgottschlag [0] (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) 11.30.05 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.32.01 Quit mgottschlag (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.33.05 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 11.39.16 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@e179039200.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.41.14 # kugel: perhaps the best would be still to port storage and sd to hosted 11.53.27 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 11.54.28 Quit bluebrother (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 11.54.42 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g231120000.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.56.24 Quit Keripo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.56.37 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 11.57.01 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 11.59.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.10.31 # is it okay that removing the SD card while playing a song on it isn't stopped? 12.14.41 # lorenzo92: if it's buffered it *might* be okay 12.15.35 # pamaury: yes it is buffered both in kernel (and rockbox i guess) so yes it's okay...but after reinserting when playing in linux doesn't mount SD properly 12.15.51 # do I need the force parameter? 12.18.40 # I don't know, buffering is quite complicated and there (have been) (still are) plenty of bugs related to removing a sd card while doing something 12.23.53 Quit Guinness (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.24.08 Join Guinness [0] (Slayer@c-68-55-111-159.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 12.26.30 Quit lorenzo92 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12.34.28 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 12.35.07 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 12.44.42 Quit AlexP (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 12.45.09 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 12.58.09 Quit liar (Remote host closed the connection) 12.58.39 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@213.37.219.103.dyn.user.ono.com) 13.00.00 Join crose [0] (~John@lec67-3-82-242-207-47.fbx.proxad.net) 13.20.19 # pamaury, why can't you use the USB in the original firmware? 13.20.27 # it automatically goes to USB boot 13.20.29 # :| 13.22.25 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-32-53.dynamic.chello.pl) 13.23.48 # kugel: The ultimate solution is to hide elf_open() in lc_open() but doing it now will have much bigger impact (as codecs use it as well). This will make testing harder. 13.23.52 Quit pamaury (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.25.04 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 13.25.04 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 13.25.04 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 13.57.25 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 13.59.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.11.47 Quit AlexP (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14.12.09 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 14.19.45 Join Deathrow [0] (~bing@5ad5423e.bb.sky.com) 14.20.20 # hello 14.21.03 # i'm trying to get my clip+ in to recovery mode and was advised to try here if I ran in to problems 14.21.34 Join lifeless_ [0] (~lifeless@94.51.196.111) 14.23.27 Quit lifeless__ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14.24.29 Join Rower85 [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-90.bitnet.nu) 14.39.28 Quit [7] (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 14.39.46 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 14.40.34 Quit crose (Quit: Leaving) 14.43.02 Quit AlexP (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14.43.29 Quit Gallomimia (Quit: Gallomimia) 14.43.35 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 15.14.42 Quit factor (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 15.23.03 Quit Xerion (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 15.28.22 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@5419F5F4.cm-5-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 15.30.32 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15.40.56 Nick ParkerR is now known as ParkerR_ (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) 15.59.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.04.15 # Deathrow: what's problems? 16.05.40 Join GeekShadow [0] (~antoine@97.133.197.77.rev.sfr.net) 16.44.15 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: Operation timed out) 16.58.57 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.212.234) 17.03.14 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 17.18.17 Join nateloaf [0] (~nwild@S0106bcaec5c3e90e.wp.shawcable.net) 17.18.39 Join Epicanis [0] (~Epicanis@static-72-95-113-7.port.east.myfairpoint.net) 17.35.29 # Belzebub, sorry I stepped away from the computer 17.35.56 # won't turn on, when connected to the PC it shows as a disk Windows reccomends formatting 17.36.06 # format screen shows a 4mb capacity 17.36.17 # prior to this, the player was functioning very slowly 17.36.27 # menus dragging very slowly when navigating through 17.36.40 # not managed to switch it on in a few days now 17.37.05 # attempted recovery mode by following the instructions un the unbricking guide but no joy 17.37.39 # still appears as 4mb instead of 1024mb as the guide suggests it should so I can't attempt to reinstall any firmware 17.37.52 # i think it's dead :( 17.45.56 # there's a hint of life, if i turn the player on, even though I don't see anything to tell me it's on 17.46.05 # Windows sees it as an unrecognised device 17.46.32 # if i then 20 second hold the power button to ensure it's off and connect it i get the behviour i mentioned earlier 17.51.20 # hmm? 17.52.37 # i know the linux way 17.55.30 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,25225.0.html 17.59.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.24.53 # Hmmm, I did try many times like funman suggests 18.25.14 # I removed the black and blue battery leads for this also 18.27.11 # what sockbox posted in that thread is pretty much the same scenario 18.30.50 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-193-21-77.cnrocmta01.conrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) 18.31.15 Quit pretty_function (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.02.26 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@g228230108.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.09.32 Quit FOAD (Quit: I'll be back) 19.09.41 Join FOAD [0] (~foad@83.161.135.61) 19.40.31 Join Paretsky [0] (paretsky@2604:180::fac8:3ac2) 19.42.03 Quit Paretsky (Client Quit) 19.42.51 Quit Guinness (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.43.19 Join Guinness [0] (Slayer@c-68-55-111-159.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 19.45.31 Quit nateloaf (Quit: Leaving.) 19.52.50 Join Paretsky [0] (paretsky@2604:180::fac8:3ac2) 19.55.12 Quit freqmod (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 19.55.32 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.59.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.02.08 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 20.03.10 Quit tjb0607 (Remote host closed the connection) 20.11.06 Join freqmod [0] (~quassel@cm-84.215.142.108.getinternet.no) 20.13.26 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-217-137.msk1cmtc02.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 20.17.11 Quit Paretsky (Quit: leaving) 20.17.43 Join Paretsky [0] (paretsky@2604:180::fac8:3ac2) 20.34.04 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 20.59.55 Quit ender` (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 21.02.43 Quit akaWolf (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 21.06.06 Quit XavierGr (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.16.16 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.212.234) 21.40.22 Join crose [0] (~John@lec67-3-82-242-207-47.fbx.proxad.net) 21.45.01 Quit pretty_function (Read error: Operation timed out) 21.48.09 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 21.56.07 Join Gallomimia [0] (~Gallo@d50-98-209-153.bchsia.telus.net) 21.59.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.04.35 # scorche: some posts seem to be vanishing again. Can you run the repair thing one of these days? 22.08.20 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 22.09.05 Join mgottschlag [0] (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) 22.21.14 Join tjb0607 [0] (~tjb0607@208.100.172.134) 22.49.42 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 22.50.58 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 23.05.58 # gevaerts: better? 23.06.28 # Perfect! 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