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I want to install 10 band eq 17.58.34 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WorkingWithPatches 17.59.01 # ty 18.05.14 # no one had the occasion to dig into the RDS issues? 18.10.07 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.14.46 Quit scorche (Disconnected by services) 18.14.50 Join scorche` [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 18.20.10 Join anon [0] (~56b28e05@www.haxx.se) 18.20.33 Nick anon is now known as Guest7962 (~56b28e05@www.haxx.se) 18.23.20 # to apply the patch I have to set up development enviroment? I want to do that in windows. Do I use: Set up a Cygwin development environment OR set up a Interix development environment ? 18.24.33 # neither. 18.24.35 # use a linux VM image 18.24.51 # cygwin has way more weird brokennesses associated with it and is much slower 18.25.05 Quit Guest7962 (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 18.25.23 # virtual machine? is that less complicated and faster than directly from windows? 18.25.29 # yes 18.26.31 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-185-238.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 18.26.43 Join lovasoa [0] (~Thunderbi@2a01:e35:8a2e:8080:3c3f:49a3:a967:57cb) 18.29.49 Quit the-kyle1 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.30.37 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@cpe-024-211-185-030.nc.res.rr.com) 18.33.40 Quit ranmachan (Remote host closed the connection) 18.35.20 # You can't do it directly from Windows 18.38.51 # why not? it says so on rockbox site 18.39.04 # with cygwin I can do it from Windows 18.39.30 # Oh, well if you include that 18.39.39 # But it is slow and crap 18.39.42 # Use a VM :) 18.39.52 # I am not familiar with linux 18.40.02 # Good time to start 18.40.11 # gonna try this first :) 18.40.22 # good luck, but don't ask us for help with it 18.40.29 # Welcome to Linux. Welcome to the future. 18.42.52 Quit Gallomimia (Remote host closed the connection) 18.43.04 Join Gallomimia [0] (~Gallo@d50-98-213-185.bchsia.telus.net) 18.43.09 # I have to select bin and src to download and install in cygwin? 19.01.38 # you don't want to use Cygwin. 19.02.06 # we really should officially deprecate Cygwin. Nobody is maintaining it these days. 19.02.25 # bluebrother: I'm for that 19.03.29 # hmm. Should I change the wiki or email the dev ml first? ;-) 19.03.43 # I don't think you would get many disagreements 19.03.52 # But that might be famous last words :) 19.04.29 # the wiki is really a mess :( 19.04.45 Quit the-kyle (Quit: Leaving.) 19.04.54 # yes 19.04.57 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@cpe-024-211-185-030.nc.res.rr.com) 19.05.46 Quit denebula () 19.06.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.15.03 # * bluebrother sent an email 19.32.05 Join Crazy_Fox [0] (~6da2333e@www.haxx.se) 19.32.45 Quit akaWolf (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 19.33.33 Quit Crazy_Fox (Client Quit) 19.44.21 Join XavierGr [0] (~xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 19.51.25 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.215.174) 19.54.05 Quit the-kyle (Quit: Leaving.) 19.54.27 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@cpe-024-211-185-030.nc.res.rr.com) 20.07.26 Quit y4n (Quit: AMIGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAA) 20.18.45 Quit the-kyle (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.18.51 Join the-kyle1 [0] (~kyle@cpe-024-211-185-030.nc.res.rr.com) 20.29.18 Part eckoit 20.34.24 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.36.45 Quit pretty_function (Quit: user has gone to sleep) 20.51.11 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@213.37.219.103.dyn.user.ono.com) 20.58.35 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 20.59.12 Quit kevku (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 21.06.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.07.12 Join pjs1875 [0] (~95feebd1@www.haxx.se) 21.07.39 Join ranmachan [0] (ranma@2a01:4f8:a0:50a1::200:126) 21.07.42 # hi guys i need abit of information on the ansa view port 21.08.27 # is sansa view still in development or is it dead? 21.11.38 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21.12.05 # 15anyone? 21.13.09 Quit pjs1875 (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 21.13.38 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 21.16.11 Quit Joakim (Quit: Joakim) 21.29.24 # not that I'm aware of 21.30.35 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21.31.49 Join r-a-y [0] (~r-a-y@unaffiliated/r-a-y) 21.32.28 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 21.33.26 # Hi, one of my older Rockbox themes was uploaded by another user for posterity and I'd like to update it. Is it just a matter of resubmitting the theme and it will replace the existing version? 21.34.57 # No, you need to use the email address used to upload it 21.35.14 # Otherwise people could overwrite each others maliciously :) 21.36.01 # An admin could remove the existing one, but we'd need to make sure that both sides were happy/that it was legit etc. 21.36.10 # What if the theme is mine to begin with? It was one of the bundled themes back in 2005 for iRiver. 21.36.23 # Yeah, I just mean we'd need to check 21.36.26 # Which was it? 21.36.30 # iAmp 21.36.38 # ah right 21.37.20 # Yeah, Stehpen Carrol helped us out by getting the themes added to the site when we decided to stop bundling them 21.37.58 # It shouldn't be a problem anyway 21.38.00 # One mo 21.40.51 # r-a-y: Probably the easiest way to do it is if you upload the new one under a new name, we'll have a quick look just to double check, then rename it for you 21.41.55 # Thanks for looking into this, AlexP. I'll probably do that. One other question, the iRiver remote uses the same dimensions as the Sansa Clip. Would I have to submit the theme twice? 21.42.39 # i think so, if you want to ake it available for the clip 21.42.53 # Okay thanks! 21.43.04 # Themes are automatically shared between targets with the same resolution, but I don't think it takes the remote into account for that 21.43.43 # Gotcha. 21.54.03 Quit the-kyle1 (Quit: Leaving.) 21.55.47 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@cpe-024-211-185-030.nc.res.rr.com) 22.06.16 Quit the-kyle (Quit: Leaving.) 22.06.19 Join the-kyle1 [0] (~kyle@cpe-024-211-185-030.nc.res.rr.com) 22.13.21 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@cpe-024-211-185-030.nc.res.rr.com) 22.13.21 Quit the-kyle1 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.35.27 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5490C75C.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.35.28 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 22.35.28 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 22.41.35 Quit lovasoa (Quit: lovasoa) 23.06.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.21.39 Join Clear_runway [0] (~Clear_run@74.221.202.246) 23.22.06 Quit derk0pf () 23.35.31 Quit mystica555 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.37.38 Quit ender| (Quit: True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class is running the country. -- Kurt Vonnegut) 23.37.41 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 23.39.36 # yeah, I wanted that remote themes could be 'normal' themes for targets with the same display size and vice versa (e.g. also for the Iaudio remotes and the M3). I remember discussing it briefly with one of the Dominiks at some DevCon - one problem seen was that it probably means that the theme site would need to repackage things. So my first-step idea was to give a hint to the creators the their theme could also be a remote target theme if they 23.39.36 # uploaded it in the other section in a different format if needed (.rwps or .wps etc.) 23.40.55 # <[Saint]> that would help my cabbie shake-up quite a bit, methinks. 23.43.25 # no-one got around doing the necessary code changes (guess I couldn't) and the idea got lost again 23.44.21 # I'm working on the theme site. I don't fully uderstand what your talking about but I kind of get it. 23.45.38 # I don't own any devices that have a remote display. what I think your saying is that themes can be set for the remote independetly from the main theme. 23.46.46 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.49.34 Join lebellium_ [0] (~chatzilla@g231204235.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.50.07 # the resolution may be the same but the screen may be different though. I firstly made the theme for the H320 remote and when I wanted to adapt it to the Sansa Clip, I noticed the bicolor OLED is annoying. 23.52.11 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.52.18 Nick lebellium_ is now known as lebellium (~chatzilla@g231204235.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.52.33 # for one yes. The main thing is though that for the two main remote screen sizes (128x64 monochrome and 128x96 greyscale) we also have targets that have these as main screens (e.g. the Clips for the first). Remote themes have .rwps or .rsbs filetype instead of .wps etc. so themes uploaded as one can't simply be downloaded for the other 23.54.10 # <[Saint]> to make things even sillier, the .rwps files are essentially identical to the same sized .wps files ;) 23.54.20 # currently they are also only included in a theme for the main screen target, so e.g. for the H100 even though the same rwps could be used on an H300 23.54.21 # <[Saint]> Making it almost 100% pointless reproduction. 23.56.45 # so what would a solution be? 23.56.46 # I give lebellium that the Clip is a bit differnt there because of the gap and the "inverted" light on dark 23.57.31 # <[Saint]> amayer: you tell us! ;) 23.57.45 # <[Saint]> ...you're the big fancy-pants themesite dude now ;) 23.58.29 # another not very deep thought yet idea was to have separate remote screen sections... not sure 23.58.40 # from Clip to H100/H300 there is no issue. But from H100/H300 (well only a very few themes for these targets support RDS) to Clip most likely the text will be over orange and blue colors at the same time and will look ugly 23.58.52 # support remote*