--- Log for 12.11.112 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 months and 14 days ago 00.04.21 Quit Xerion (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.05.00 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@5419F5F4.cm-5-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 00.05.45 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 00.07.34 Quit mirak (Quit: Ex-Chat) 00.07.55 Join krabador [0] (~darkham@host209-181-dynamic.23-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 00.10.21 Join brkfstsqd [0] (~quassel@ip68-224-121-213.lv.lv.cox.net) 00.11.20 Quit brkfstsqd (Remote host closed the connection) 00.28.13 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Page closed) 00.35.55 Join Wardo [0] (~Mirandaha@176-120-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) 00.45.18 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0/20121106195758]) 00.51.18 Quit Wardo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.01.43 Quit ender1 (Quit: Q: How can you tell if somebody owns an Apple product? 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I added the 3.12 news to it 09.49.43 # sure 09.50.14 # done 09.51.43 # Looks like that bit is not on ReleaseChecklist 09.54.30 # Zagor: hm, looks like 3.12 is missing from flyspray as well 09.56.05 # gevaerts: added 09.56.23 # The "since last release" page is also wrong, apparently 09.57.20 # I'll look for the right hash and update update_front.sh 10.00.00 # Zagor: done 10.02.31 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 10.09.38 Join thegeek [0] (~thegeek@2.36.34.95.customer.cdi.no) 10.12.27 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p54946051.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.12.27 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 10.12.27 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 10.16.14 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10.23.54 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@128.204.195.239) 10.23.55 Quit n17ikh (Changing host) 10.23.55 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@unaffiliated/n17ikh) 10.42.47 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 10.46.58 Quit derk0pf () 10.53.28 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@sphinx.lix.polytechnique.fr) 10.53.28 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 10.53.28 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.06.02 Join kevku [0] (x@maybe.tastes.like.everything.mm.am) 11.14.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.20.27 Join Guinness` [0] (Slayer@c-68-55-111-159.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 11.20.27 Quit Guest80357 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.39.53 Quit fyre^OS (Quit: quit) 11.55.05 Join derk0pf [0] (~k@vpn7.hotsplots.net) 11.58.09 Join Robin0800 [0] (~quassel@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 12.14.07 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 12.14.11 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 12.15.15 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.16.32 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@f053152195.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.33.29 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 12.34.30 Join Rower85 [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-90.bitnet.nu) 12.45.00 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 13.09.52 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 13.14.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.30.14 Quit ParkerR_ (Excess Flood) 13.33.02 Join ParkerR [0] (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) 13.39.38 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.57.14 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.92) 14.02.09 Quit derk0pf () 14.04.13 Join derk0pf [0] (~k@vpn7.hotsplots.net) 14.04.29 Quit derk0pf (Client Quit) 14.06.15 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E4300A.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.32.39 Quit Robin0800 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.34.07 Quit sciopath (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.34.12 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.34.26 Join sciopath [0] (~sciop@yer91-2-82-237-54-159.fbx.proxad.net) 14.34.35 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@97-114-242-181.sxcy.qwest.net) 14.34.36 Quit advcomp2019 (Changing host) 14.34.36 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 14.40.25 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 14.55.46 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15.11.02 Join shikhar [0] (~75ef5e13@www.haxx.se) 15.13.28 # Is this the right place to ask for help regarding emCore running Rockbox on iPod classic 6 gen? 15.13.44 # yes just ask 15.14.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.14.25 # Well, it depends on the exact question. We might refer you to #freemyipod if it's too emcore-specific 15.16.04 Join derk0pf [0] (~k@p5DDC2C10.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.16.32 # Rockbox (through emCore) was working fine until today morning. Now it gets stuck on the "scannning disk" screen and goes no further. I have tried resetting the rockbox configuration and clearing the database through the settings menu on the boot screen, but it is still getting stuck. What can I do? 15.17.27 # I have also tried running UMSboot and copy/pasting the .ubi again 15.19.10 # Could be filesystem corruption 15.19.17 # Amd sometmies I get the message "Data abort at 080536C0 (domain 0, fault 5) address 0x70657200) . The ipod is connected to the computer's USB, no wire splitters and original cable. 15.19.29 # Also, which rockbox version are you running? The one packaged with emcore is *old* and known to be buggy 15.19.56 # You can find a link to the current development build on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodClassicPort 15.20.58 # I am running rockbox_pThe .ubi that I used is installer-ipodclassic-r859-20120102.ubi 15.21.25 # and this rockbox : rockbox-ipodclassic-r31516-20120102 15.21.41 # Right. Start by updating that 15.21.57 # don't you need rockbox to make rockbox bootable on classic? 15.22.02 # or only to make the bootloader bootable 15.22.37 # How do I update that if the ipod is not showing up on my computer (Ubuntu, 12.04) ? 15.22.41 # ah since i don't remember the details, it means it just needs to be done once at startup 15.22.48 # shikhar: can't you boot original firmware? 15.22.54 # funman: no 15.23.12 # Doesn't emcore have an UMS mode? 15.23.21 # @funman, No, i can't. I installed through emcore since its iPod 6g. I don't think the ooriginal firmware is there on the iPod anymore 15.23.40 # alright i'll shut up since i only know ipod nano2g 15.23.55 # @gevaerts, it does. I can update using that? 15.23.59 # Sure 15.24.29 # You can also use that to check the filesystem for corruption 15.24.53 # how do i check for corruption and how do i update by going into UMSboot? 15.25.03 # And also if you can tell me, how do I save my data? 15.25.26 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-32-53.dynamic.chello.pl) 15.26.27 # I would kindly ask for review and tests of g348 (again). If there will be no objection within day or two I'll commit this. 15.26.30 # 3Gerrit review #348 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/348 : imageviewer: gif viewer based on giflib-5.0.2 by Marcin Bukat (changes/48/348/9) 15.28.40 # @gevaerts , some help? 15.29.08 Quit mortalis (Quit: Leaving) 15.33.30 Join amayer_ [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 15.34.32 # hmm, hd300 bootloader from HEAD is broken 15.36.06 # Rockbox (rockbox-ipodclassic-r31516-20120102), through emCore, was working fine until today morning on ipod 6g. Now it gets stuck on the "scannning disk" screen and goes no further. I have tried "resetting the rockbox configuration" and "clearing the database" through the settings menu on the boot screen, but it is still getting stuck. The only way my computer (Ubuntu, 12.04) recognizes the ipod is in the UMSboot mode. 1. How do I update to the rockbox-ip 15.36.57 # shikhar: just unpack zip with known good version to the root of the disk 15.37.08 # rockbox is loaded off the disk on startup 15.37.47 # How do I get to the root of the disk through the UMSboot partition? 15.38.09 # oh, I though you mean apples disk mode 15.38.23 # umsboot partition is ramdisk AFAIK 15.39.45 # @wodz, i have no idea what that means. I installed rockbox through emcore which means there is no apple firmware on my ipod. and now rockbox too isn't loading. and the commputer is not recognizing it as an external harddrive as long as it stays on the (blue) emcore bootscreen. 15.40.23 # shikhar: ok, catch TheSeven then - he will know 15.40.41 # or [7] currently :-) 15.41.56 # So, I should just msg him? 15.42.43 # I pinged him already with this statements so he will probably respond when he gets near his computer 15.43.29 # okay, thanks... any idea on how I can save my data in th emeantime? 15.43.56 # wodz: I'll test the gif viewer tonight 15.44.41 # or transfer my data? 15.45.37 # pamaury: great 15.46.40 Nick scorche` is now known as scorche (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 15.47.14 # did we consider mandatory registration through irc to post on forums ? 15.47.40 # like for the wiki 15.48.54 # not really - the wiki is more of a development resource, so IRC as a sign-up is appropriate 15.49.25 # most people who use the forums are one-offs that have no clue what IRC is - it is more a parallel support method 15.50.06 # it would pretty much halt the spam though 15.50.25 # and many valid new registrations, i am sure 15.50.27 # and we could show them the web client 15.50.40 # Yes, but it would also have the same effect more or less as just closing them 15.51.12 # We already have large parts of the day when nobody is active enough on irc to answer questions. Who exactly would activate these forum accounts? 15.51.21 # anyway, as i have said before, discussions on this should probably wait for me to get some free time to investigate and migrate the forums to SMF2 and see what effect that might have on the spam 15.51.46 # * gevaerts nods 15.53.24 # I'd like to find some motivation to look into the forum code again to see if we can disable accounts instead of banning them. The banning code gets *really* slow with the number of bans we have 15.53.36 # Yeah 15.53.44 # It takes me minutes to ban someone 15.54.01 # yeah - unfortunately, those changes would probably be wiped away for SMF2 though 15.54.16 # scorche: You should just get on with it :) 15.54.20 # * gevaerts nods 15.54.25 # i know - i am sorry... 15.54.33 # scorche: see, gevaerts agrees :P 15.54.35 # Do you have any sort of idea when you might have time? 15.54.58 # And while you're at it, prod Zagor to fix the irc and email commit things :) 15.55.02 # gevaerts: before the end of the year 15.55.17 # gevaerts: good point 15.55.24 # hopefully within the next couple of weekends, but i cant say right now 15.55.27 # * AlexP gets a bigger stick 15.55.31 # :) 15.55.38 # Oooh, maybe we want commit notifications on the forums! 15.55.52 # scorche: sounds good 15.56.02 # irc commi 15.56.11 # t thing is probably a bit harder 15.56.15 # as that wasn't us 15.56.34 # i thought the CIA bot thing was open-source? 15.56.50 # maybe, don't know 15.57.02 # Didn't it rely on their services though? 15.57.16 # So it'd probably a bit of work to implement it ourselves 15.57.35 # It was, but that's not the issue, really. IIUC they had the bad habit of making local modifications and forgetting to commit those, and they had no data backups. 15.58.13 # https://code.google.com/p/cia-vc/ 15.59.38 # from what i understand, it is pretty horribly implemented though 16.00.10 # there is http://www.catb.org/~esr/irker/ 16.00.39 # SMF 1 is end of life as of the end of the year as well 16.00.50 # oh, my mistake 16.00.55 # silly subversions :) 16.01.29 # yeah - people keep saying that we are not running the latest stable version of the forums, but we are ;) 16.02.46 # scorche: looks interesting 16.03.42 # How CIA was notified about build result? 16.04.28 # wodz: a commit hook sent a notification to the cia server 16.05.17 # so basicaly we are set with irker then 16.06.02 # we 'just' need to pass data from the hook to the irker instance 16.06.09 # Zagor: Did you see the irker thing? 16.06.21 # I had been planning to write something for logbot to handle notifications, but I suppose irker would be less work 16.06.29 Quit shikhar (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 16.07.10 # Do you think it'd be worth having something like #rockbox-announce it could (in addition) post to? 16.07.31 # AlexP: I don't see the point 16.07.45 # In the abscence of commit emails it'd be handy to be able to see all the commits without having to search through all the other ocnversation 16.07.48 # our channel is not very active for most of the time 16.07.56 # *conversation 16.07.57 # wodz: It is sometimes 16.08.04 # rarely nowadays 16.08.17 # Still, sometimes 16.08.23 # frontpage lists commits 16.08.26 # I also don't see how it would hurt 16.08.27 # I' not sure many people want commit notices but not see dev chatter. but I supposed it's easy enough to config. 16.08.47 # wodz: I don't want to have to keep going and looking at the front page 16.09.05 # and announce could be read only as it were 16.09.20 # ok, I don't see the point but it doesn't bother me as well 16.09.29 # that's good 16.10.58 # if someone wants to investigate irker a bit and then suggeste a configuration, that would be great 16.12.05 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 16.12.17 # What the hell broke hd300 bootloader. I don't see anything obvious in logs. I am not pleased with bisecting bootloader thing... 16.13.09 # wodz: IIRC the latest theory was that it might have been related to size 16.15.58 Join dfkt|a [0] (~dfkt@chello084112032026.1.11.vie.surfer.at) 16.15.59 Quit dfkt|a (Changing host) 16.15.59 Join dfkt|a [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 16.16.22 # not h300 but hd300 :-) 16.16.34 # oh 16.16.42 # * gevaerts shuts up 16.17.19 # the bootloader itself works, but you can't turn on player without ac 16.29.30 Part LinusN 16.40.13 Join fireandfuel [0] (~secure@i59F7F6C6.versanet.de) 16.47.16 Join kevku [0] (x@indeed.tastes.like.everything.mm.am) 16.51.11 Join Super [0] (~Andy@97-124-86-103.phnx.qwest.net) 16.51.36 Nick Super is now known as Guest28234 (~Andy@97-124-86-103.phnx.qwest.net) 16.51.50 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 16.51.53 Quit Guest28234 (Client Quit) 16.52.10 Join Guest28234 [0] (~Andy@97-124-86-103.phnx.qwest.net) 16.52.18 Quit Guest28234 (Client Quit) 16.52.54 Join SuperBrain [0] (~Andy@97-124-86-103.phnx.qwest.net) 16.53.26 Quit SuperBrain (Client Quit) 16.53.51 Join Super_Brain_AK [0] (~Andy@97-124-86-103.phnx.qwest.net) 16.54.35 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 17.02.10 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 17.02.15 Join eyfour [0] (~a4@176.76.202.84.customer.cdi.no) 17.11.08 Quit derk0pf () 17.14.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.15.47 Join derk0pf [0] (~k@p5DDC2C10.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.16.41 Quit yuriks (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 17.19.02 Quit eyfour (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17.19.25 Quit bootlkjkgf (Quit: you'll probably leave it Late ::: SO GET ON WITH IT ! http://www.ohloh.net/p/systemd) 17.27.56 Join brkfstsqd [0] (~quassel@68.224.121.213) 17.29.24 Quit brkfstsqd (Remote host closed the connection) 17.29.41 Join bootlkhfdh [0] (~Prmhfhfx@87.254.67.112) 17.34.17 Quit dfkt|a (Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )) 17.35.40 Quit derk0pf () 17.36.43 Join derk0pf [0] (~k@p5DDC2C10.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.38.29 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@92.231.220.60) 17.39.52 # hi, I discovered a reproducible rockbox hang with my ypr0 while playing ogg/vorbis and flac files at daily builds from rockbox.org. It's only first file in a folder, after 1-3 seconds of playing - it takes 1-3 seconds; than the hang is over. The interesting thing is: My rockbox build ( version 6242d9f-121109, no modification of source code ) compiled with "arm-ypr0-linux-gnueabi-gcc ( crosstool-NG 1.16.0 ) 4.6.3" doesn't produce this hang. 17.42.10 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17.43.11 Join SuperGluk [0] (SuperGluk@91.192.189.32) 17.43.48 # hi 17.46.35 Quit derk0pf () 17.46.55 # can i Sansa Clip+ if it seen as "M200Plus" 4MB device? 17.47.17 # *repiar 17.47.36 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@82.67.248.70) 17.47.36 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 17.47.36 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 17.51.25 Join derk0pf [0] (~k@p5DDC2C10.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.58.27 # SuperGluk: depends what you did to get it into that state 18.01.34 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 18.15.27 Quit derk0pf () 18.20.49 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 18.28.04 Part fireandfuel ("PING 1352741230") 18.30.40 Join derk0pf [0] (~k@p5DDC2C10.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.35.46 Quit Llorean (Quit: Leaving.) 18.36.02 # * SuperGluk slaps saratoga around a bit with a large trout 18.36.40 Join yuriks [0] (~yuriks@147.126.10.25) 18.36.56 # ? 18.37.11 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@64.244.169.114) 18.38.38 Quit Llorean (Changing host) 18.38.38 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 18.40.20 # i disconnect clip+ from pc. it turn off and never else turn on. (sorry for my english) 18.41.03 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.41.33 # so you didn't do anything specific to it to break it? 18.43.52 Quit yuriks (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.45.46 # no. if i connect it to pc, get message "unregnazed device". but if i connect it after reset(20sec power button), have "M200Plus" 4MB device. 18.45.57 # we need to buy 100 clip+ and use them ourselves until one breaks 18.47.49 # if it just randomly dies, a bad flash memory chip seems likely 18.48.46 # one 'dead' clip+ that someone sent me works fine after recovery 18.49.06 # it just randomly died? 18.49.10 # i have it in my hands and it shows no sign of weakness or weirdness 18.49.12 # apparently yes 18.49.27 # the previous owner said nothing particular happened 18.49.45 # i just assumed the sandisk players have a fairly high failure rate, their support forums are full of people asking how to fix their players 18.50.15 # that too, nothing seems to say failure rate with rockbox is higher than failure rate with OF 18.50.55 # saratoga: the clip+ died this way: "What I do? Just turned off Clip+ and it do not want turn on. I pressed power button for 30 second and nothing happen." 18.51.35 # SuperGluk: before you disconnect clip+ from pc, where you doing a firmware upgrade or rockbox bootloader install ? 18.51.52 # sandisk's habit of putting the critical boot code in cheap NAND probably has something to do with it 18.52.30 # never 19.04.00 Join yuriks [0] (~yuriks@147.126.81.6) 19.04.50 Join zielak [0] (~zielak@unaffiliated/zielak) 19.05.24 Quit yuriks (Changing host) 19.05.24 Join yuriks [0] (~yuriks@opentyrian/developer/yuriks) 19.12.04 Quit Llorean (Quit: Leaving.) 19.14.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.19.12 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 19.19.49 Join eyfour [0] (~a4@176.76.202.84.customer.cdi.no) 19.28.33 Quit amayer_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 19.29.22 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 19.29.47 Nick ParkerR is now known as ParkerR_ (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) 19.31.56 Part eyfour ("WeeChat 0.3.7") 19.35.26 Nick ParkerR_ is now known as ParkerR (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) 19.35.40 Nick ParkerR is now known as ParkerR_ (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) 19.35.43 Ctcp Ping from gevaerts!~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts 19.35.50 Quit gevaerts (Quit: Reconnecting) 19.35.59 Join gevaerts [0] (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 19.37.12 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 19.43.46 Join Wardo [0] (~Mirandaha@109.190.120.176) 19.49.07 Quit zoktar (Quit: -) 19.55.55 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@213.37.219.103.dyn.user.ono.com) 19.57.52 Join sakax [0] (~sakax@d8D862498.access.telenet.be) 19.59.17 Join pamaury_ [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 19.59.42 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.02.05 Quit akaWolf (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20.02.18 Quit derk0pf () 20.09.22 Quit sakax (Quit: Leaving) 20.16.35 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.213.136) 20.18.41 Join amayer_ [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 20.26.31 Join sakax [0] (~sakax@d8D862498.access.telenet.be) 20.28.30 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 20.28.31 Quit n1s (Changing host) 20.28.31 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 20.31.04 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@64.244.169.114) 20.31.08 Quit Llorean (Changing host) 20.31.08 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 20.33.24 Join zoktar [0] (~zoktar@unaffiliated/zoktar) 20.35.32 Join krabador [0] (~darkham@host99-177-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 20.48.19 # after i disconnect clip+ from pc it turn off and never else turn on. if i connect it to pc, get message "unrecognized device". but if i connect it after reset(20sec power button), have "M200Plus" 4MB device. can i repair it? 20.51.05 Quit n1s (Read error: Connection timed out) 21.01.22 Quit y4n (Quit: AMIGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAA) 21.03.34 # SuperGluk: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSUnbrick 21.06.41 Quit GodEater (Quit: leaving) 21.07.17 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.12.49 # i try this, but not enough for firmware. 21.14.14 Join sentriz [0] (~Senan@78.143.151.93) 21.14.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.14.50 # no it must show the normal capacity, not 4mb 21.15.06 # if it doesn't you didn't short the solder points correctly 21.15.25 # 4m means flash is not available 21.15.47 # 4gb (or 2 or 8 or 1) means the whole flash is available, including the place where firmware is written 21.16.19 # in fact if you can access the flash it would be nice to dump the first sectors so we can analyze what went wrong perhaps 21.16.31 # (if you remember which firmware version and bootloader you used) 21.17.59 Quit sciopath (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.18.26 Join sciopath [0] (~sciop@yer91-2-82-237-54-159.fbx.proxad.net) 21.18.57 Quit sciopath (Client Quit) 21.20.45 Join sciopath [0] (~sciop@yer91-2-82-237-54-159.fbx.proxad.net) 21.20.55 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@cl-711.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) 21.20.56 Quit GodEater (Changing host) 21.20.56 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 21.21.56 # thanks. other man say me, that if i have m200plus device, clip+ already in service mode and i dint need short solder points 21.22.48 # feel free to hack it a bit and share your experience with us 21.22.58 # maybe you'll learn something new 21.24.27 # :) 21.26.04 Join derk0pf [0] (~k@p5DDC2C10.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.26.06 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 21.26.07 Quit n1s (Changing host) 21.26.07 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 21.27.04 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-32-53.dynamic.chello.pl) 21.27.58 # funman: Have you tried to sacrifice amsv2 device by overwriting in controlled way firmware part to see what happens then? 21.28.35 # yes but a long time ago 21.28.55 # i used hacked mkamsboot and bootloader 21.29.17 # tu uncompress OF, patch it at runtime and run it 21.29.35 # it's really tedious if you don't know what you are looking for 21.29.55 # it helped RE sd driver though 21.30.30 # funman: this 4mb device must come from somewhere - masked rom I guess. Do we have dumps of rom? 21.30.45 # yes 21.30.55 # but those 4mb were just 0 and repeated memory iirc 21.30.58 # SuperGluk: can you dump it ? 21.31.33 # rom very looks like OF 21.31.52 # funman: no I mean it is probably some ramdisk but code which presents it is in rom probably 21.32.14 # ah true 21.33.00 # no i didn't look for that code 21.33.07 # so do we have dumps of rom? 21.34.04 # i thought there was such an option in debug menu 21.34.23 # roms are usually small it should be fairly simple to disasm 21.34.30 # I don't have amsv2 myself 21.35.18 # rk27xx rom is less then 8kB for example 21.36.52 # i ll dump the one of my clip+ 21.37.56 # rom size is 128kb 21.39.05 # funman: I guess memmap is contained in our .h file? 21.39.17 # nope it's in the pdf 21.40.07 # http://pastie.org/5367924 21.41.38 # funman: As I stated before I don't have amsv2 myself. Can you send me rom dump + pdf? Maybe I'll look at it. 21.42.13 # http://www.austriamicrosystems.com/eng/content/view/full/14666 21.42.40 # "Sorry, the page you are looking for cannot be found." 21.42.58 # and my rom dump is full of 0 ... 21.43.38 # wodz: http://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=as3525%20pdf&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CC4QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ams.com%2Feng%2Fcontent%2Fdownload%2F16763%2F295720%2F467&ei=aF-hUN6OKYyQhQeTlIGoCg&usg=AFQjCNEWRijnEuQBDuiGOPb5X2OG3lLTQQ 21.43.42 # err 21.43.46 # i mean as3525 pdf -> 2nd reslt 21.43.52 # first is product brief 21.45.30 # rom is full of 0 with 0x80000000 tii 21.45.32 # too* 21.46.55 # so this is not the proper rom dump :-) 21.47.16 # nope 21.49.11 # ah i remember we turn off rom though 21.49.13 Quit yuriks (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.51.38 # wodz: http://people.videolan.org/~funman/rom-clip+.bin.bz2 21.52.36 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@178.174.211.174) 21.52.36 Quit Bagder (Changing host) 21.52.36 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 21.52.39 # ok, grabbed 21.54.22 # so it is loaded from address 0x80000000 21.54.26 # how i can extract pcb from clip+ case? i open it, unscrew 4 screw, but something hold pcb 21.54.37 # funman: Does OF uses thumb? 21.54.41 # yeah 21.54.48 # to get OF: 21.55.25 # http://mp3support.sandisk.com/firmware/clipplus/clipplus01.02.16.zip and utils/AMS/hacking/extract_fw.c 21.55.41 # if you load them both side by side the similarity is stunning 21.56.32 # I'll first try to look around in rom disasm 21.57.06 # the rockbox fund should send you a clip 21.57.45 # clip zip is identical to clip+ (except the screen of course) and they should cost the same 21.59.12 # The fund should pay for some expensive gift for my wife then to not throw out this clip and me just a few minutes later :-) 22.01.26 # if your wife hacks the gift no problem :) 22.01.33 Quit pretty_function (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.01.35 # http://www.amazon.fr/gp/offer-listing/B002NX0MFA/ref=dp_olp_refurbished?ie=UTF8&condition=refurbished 25€ 22.01.46 # http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Sansa-Clip-Player-SDMX22-004G-A57K/dp/B005FVNGRS/ref=?ie=UTF8&m=A2CAZVN1GC1YO 32$ 22.02.20 # it is the reason of the fund and also a small investment for big return to all the AMS users.. 22.02.50 # i can buy it to you with paypal if you prefer 22.03.54 Quit Llorean (Quit: Leaving.) 22.04.51 # I'll first look at disasm. When I consider testing something I'll ask for funding 22.05.05 # np 22.20.04 Quit sentriz (Quit: Leaving) 22.23.26 Join Gallomimia [0] (~Gallo@d216-232-229-219.bchsia.telus.net) 22.30.55 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-068-213-037-174.sip.mcn.bellsouth.net) 22.36.45 # short the solder points 6 times, but always have 4mb disk... 22.39.36 Quit melmothX (Quit: bau) 22.43.21 # rom do have string M200Plus 22.47.11 Join yuriks [0] (~yuriks@147.126.10.21) 22.50.52 Quit Bagder (Remote host closed the connection) 22.51.23 Part LinusN 23.00.28 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 23.04.11 # SuperGluk: I think I have the same problem as you; unbricking didn't help for me... 23.05.28 Quit amayer_ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 23.06.11 # wodz: yes 23.07.45 # simonnn: hope die last:) (sorry for my english) 23.08.04 # hehe, yeah:) 23.08.26 # someone told me to leave it for a few weeks and try again then 23.10.01 # i trying other methodes in first 23.14.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.22.23 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p54946051.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.22.23 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 23.22.23 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 23.23.33 Quit bertrik (Read error: Operation timed out) 23.25.32 Quit ParkerR_ (Excess Flood) 23.26.33 Join ParkerR_ [0] (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) 23.30.21 Quit Horscht (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.30.42 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p54946051.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.30.42 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 23.30.42 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 23.35.02 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 23.35.04 Quit yuriks (Changing host) 23.35.04 Join yuriks [0] (~yuriks@opentyrian/developer/yuriks) 23.41.19 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.42.14 Join saratoga [0] (123e0cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.12.252) 23.42.38 Quit saratoga (Changing host) 23.42.38 Join saratoga [0] (123e0cfc@rockbox/developer/saratoga) 23.51.45 Join lebellium_ [0] (~chatzilla@85.179.39.145) 23.52.50 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 23.53.01 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.53.09 Nick lebellium_ is now known as lebellium (~chatzilla@85.179.39.145) 23.54.37 Quit prof_wolfff (Read error: Operation timed out) 23.58.30 Quit zielak ()