--- Log for 13.11.112 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 months and 15 days ago 00.03.18 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 00.05.13 Quit Wardo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.08.19 Quit ender1 (Quit: And I don't offend religious people, they offend themselves. -- Markus Persson (notch)) 00.16.35 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0/20121106195758]) 00.19.59 Quit bootlkhfdh (*.net *.split) 00.19.59 Quit tchan (*.net *.split) 00.19.59 Quit scorche|sh (*.net *.split) 00.20.00 Quit CoreWolf (*.net *.split) 00.20.00 Quit kugel (*.net *.split) 00.20.01 Quit uwe_ (*.net *.split) 00.21.09 Join bootlkhfdh [0] (~Prmhfhfx@87.254.67.112) 00.21.09 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@141.45.176.104) 00.21.09 Quit kugel (Changing host) 00.21.09 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 00.23.49 Join amayer [0] (~alex@h121.188.123.208.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) 00.27.59 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Heading home.) 00.29.19 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 00.29.19 Join scorche|sh [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 00.29.19 Join CoreWolf [0] (~CoreWolf@indurium.soleus.nu) 00.29.19 Join uwe_ [0] (~uwe_@dslb-088-064-209-125.pools.arcor-ip.net) 00.36.37 Join Robin0800 [0] (~quassel@81.106.126.244) 00.40.28 Quit Rower85 (Quit: Hmmm...) 01.06.01 Quit Robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 01.13.00 Join nateloaf [0] (~nwild@S0106bcaec5c3e90e.wp.shawcable.net) 01.14.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.20.10 Join fireandfuel [0] (~secure@i577B7EDD.versanet.de) 01.20.23 Part fireandfuel 01.24.29 Quit pamaury_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01.34.54 Join d-e-r-p [0] (~ODORBLOCK@wikipedia/The-Thing-That-Should-Not-Be) 01.36.27 # Hi, I just barely installed Rockbox onto my Sansa Clip Zip... but when I have my repeat set to "one", I can't skip back and forth between tracks without going up to the list of songs and selecting the one I want. Any way to fix this? 01.38.25 # that is the intended behavior, i believe 01.41.20 Quit Gallomimia (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.42.24 Join Gallomimia [0] (~Gallo@216.232.229.219) 01.47.10 # in repeat one mode, the next song in the playlist is also the current one, so you can't skip it 01.47.32 # IMO this is a weird way to do things 01.59.57 # Well I must say that's a little disheartening, lol 02.28.03 Quit derk0pf () 02.37.09 Quit Belzebub (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.38.56 Join Belzebub [0] (~torrentow@195.117.144.66) 02.53.38 Quit SuperGluk () 02.58.41 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 03.14.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.23.57 Join Gallomimia_ [0] (~Gallo@d50-98-213-185.bchsia.telus.net) 03.25.56 Quit Gallomimia (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03.25.57 Nick Gallomimia_ is now known as Gallomimia (~Gallo@d50-98-213-185.bchsia.telus.net) 03.26.53 Join Clear_runway [0] (~Clear_run@74.221.202.246) 03.27.44 Quit XavierGr (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03.34.09 Join brkfstsqd [0] (~quassel@ip68-224-121-213.lv.lv.cox.net) 03.34.19 Quit advcomp2019 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.34.47 Quit brkfstsqd (Remote host closed the connection) 03.35.03 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@97.114.242.181) 03.35.03 Quit advcomp2019 (Changing host) 03.35.03 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 04.05.56 # hmm forums down? 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There is example post commit hook script as well as simple script which shows how to build custom messages to be delivered by irker. 09.40.35 Join Scr0mple [0] (~Simon@161.43.73.67) 09.42.48 Quit Scromple (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 09.46.43 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@82.67.248.70) 09.46.43 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 09.46.43 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 09.47.54 # wodz: excellent. 09.49.12 # Zagor: I should also add probably that code is extensively commented :-) 09.53.02 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 09.57.51 Join derk0pf [0] (~k@93.220.44.16) 10.00.06 Quit scorche (Disconnected by services) 10.00.09 Join scorche` [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 10.12.38 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10.13.26 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.214.80) 10.19.29 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 10.24.24 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10.38.07 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 10.50.39 Quit GodEater_ (Quit: Page closed) 10.54.19 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@sphinx.lix.polytechnique.fr) 10.54.19 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 10.54.19 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.11.58 Quit pamaury (*.net *.split) 11.11.59 Quit yuriks (*.net *.split) 11.12.00 Quit ChanServ (*.net *.split) 11.12.00 Quit saratoga (*.net *.split) 11.12.00 Quit ender1 (*.net *.split) 11.12.00 Quit bertrik (*.net *.split) 11.12.00 Quit melmothX (*.net *.split) 11.12.02 Quit wodz (*.net *.split) 11.12.02 Quit pretty_function (*.net *.split) 11.12.03 Quit nosa-j (*.net *.split) 11.12.03 Quit Staphylo (*.net *.split) 11.12.03 Quit ukleinek (*.net *.split) 11.12.52 Quit derk0pf () 11.14.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.15.43 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.15.43 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 11.15.43 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.214.80) 11.15.43 Join ender1 [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.15.43 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 11.15.43 Join melmothX [0] (~melmoth@unaffiliated/melmothx) 11.15.43 Join saratoga [0] (123e0cfc@rockbox/developer/saratoga) 11.15.43 Join yuriks [0] (~yuriks@opentyrian/developer/yuriks) 11.15.43 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@184.76.254.130) 11.15.43 Join Staphylo [0] (~Staphylo@mareo.fr) 11.15.43 Join ukleinek [0] (~ukl@port-212-202-120-50.static.qsc.de) 11.15.43 Join ChanServ [0] (ChanServ@services.) 11.15.43 Mode "#rockbox +o ChanServ " by leguin.freenode.net 11.20.36 Quit factor (*.net *.split) 11.20.37 Quit jm (*.net *.split) 11.20.37 Quit funman (*.net *.split) 11.20.37 Quit georgehank (*.net *.split) 11.20.37 Quit scorche` (*.net *.split) 11.20.38 Quit ParkerR_ (*.net *.split) 11.20.38 Quit kugel (*.net *.split) 11.20.38 Quit Torne (*.net *.split) 11.20.38 Quit KiwiCam (*.net *.split) 11.20.39 Quit derf (*.net *.split) 11.20.39 Quit Unhelpful (*.net *.split) 11.20.40 Quit zu (*.net *.split) 11.20.40 Quit Scr0mple (*.net *.split) 11.20.40 Quit Rower85 (*.net *.split) 11.20.40 Quit pixelma_ (*.net *.split) 11.20.41 Quit amiconn (*.net *.split) 11.20.41 Quit advcomp2019 (*.net *.split) 11.20.41 Quit zchs (*.net *.split) 11.20.41 Quit Buglouse (*.net *.split) 11.20.42 Quit mikroflops (*.net *.split) 11.20.42 Quit simonnn (*.net *.split) 11.20.42 Quit bzed (*.net *.split) 11.22.01 Join scorche` [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 11.22.01 Join Scr0mple [0] (~Simon@161.43.73.67) 11.22.01 Join Rower85 [0] (husvagn@82.196.99.90) 11.22.01 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 11.22.01 Join amiconn [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 11.22.01 Join ParkerR_ [0] (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) 11.22.01 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 11.22.01 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 11.22.01 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.92) 11.22.01 Join zchs [0] (~zchs@173.3.79.216) 11.22.01 Join Torne [0] (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 11.22.01 Join KiwiCam [0] (~quassel@101.98.163.139) 11.22.01 Join Buglouse [0] (~Buglouse@unaffiliated/Buglouse) 11.22.01 Join jm [0] (jm@epicsol.org) 11.22.01 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 11.22.01 Join derf [0] (~derf@fuzzyneural.net) 11.22.01 Join simonnn [0] (~simon@guilhem.ros.sgsnet.se) 11.22.01 Join zu [0] (~zu@ks387228.kimsufi.com) 11.22.01 Join Unhelpful [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/Unhelpful) 11.22.01 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@h-34-140.a238.priv.bahnhof.se) 11.22.01 Join bzed [0] (~bzed@devel.recluse.de) 11.22.01 Join georgehank [0] (~jae@dedicated.jaerhard.com) 11.22.15 # 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wodz: it's only a matter of disabling DumpColorMap in gifalloc.c even in DEBUG 11.29.59 Quit petur (*.net *.split) 11.29.59 Quit sciopath (*.net *.split) 11.29.59 Quit FOAD (*.net *.split) 11.30.22 Quit Belzebub (Changing host) 11.30.22 Join Belzebub [0] (~torrentow@unaffiliated/blown-engine) 11.30.27 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 11.30.27 Join sciopath [0] (~sciop@yer91-2-82-237-54-159.fbx.proxad.net) 11.30.27 Join FOAD [0] (~foad@83.161.135.61) 11.31.28 # wodz: it would be useful to be able to interrupt the loading process (especially on large gif) 11.32.12 Quit pretty_function (Remote host closed the connection) 11.32.26 # otherwise if works pretty well 11.32.41 # except that I have a gif which should be moving but does not 11.33.04 # here is it: http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fx_files/21944/2/DancingPeaks.gif 11.36.01 # pamaury: Ok, thanks for looking. Speaking about load interrupting - this is not supported by any decoder in imageviewer. I may look to implement the framework for this though. 11.36.19 # imageviewer is quite messy anyway 11.37.45 Join XavierGr [0] (XavierGr@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 11.38.19 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 12.06.23 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 12.13.57 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12.14.35 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 12.17.15 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.17.28 Join kevku [0] (x@indeed.tastes.like.everything.mm.am) 12.17.39 Quit bluebrother^ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 12.18.53 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@92.226.69.195) 12.25.10 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89.76.32.53) 12.27.31 # pamaury: The gif file you linked is not quite standard conforming IMO. It has delay between frames set to 0. It relies on the fact that most viewers (web browsers at least) protect itself to not allow DoS by such crafted file and treat 0 as 100ms. This breaks other conforming gifs though. 12.28.34 # I should probably implement parsing of application specific control block and do the same instead of treating such files as still images 12.53.59 Join derk0pf [0] (~k@p5DDC0EF1.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.06.50 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 13.14.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.18.47 # wodz: never heard about that document, where is it referenced? 13.21.02 # in the datasheet 13.24.05 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@85.179.39.145) 13.25.54 # wodz: this is the dmesg output I get if I plugin my clip+ (with the 4mb device problem):http://hpaste.org/77653 13.27.06 # (and try to mount it..) 13.28.55 *** SPY: Authentication failed for Zagor 13.30.21 Nick logbot_ is now known as logbot (~rockbox@giant.haxx.se) 13.30.52 Nick logbot is now known as Guest44098 (~rockbox@giant.haxx.se) 13.31.20 Nick Guest44098 is now known as logbot- (~rockbox@giant.haxx.se) 13.31.26 # argh 13.33.47 Quit Rondom (Remote host closed the connection) 15.26.47 # what do you think of that guys? http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showpost.php?p=626381&postcount=1005 15.28.11 # lebellium: limiting max volume? 15.29.10 # yes... actually just if there is anything that should be done to prevent that or if we consider it's only the user's fault 15.29.43 # in short, it's impossible. the sound pressure is a factor of many things, and we can only control one 15.30.09 # a user-defined limit volume setting? 15.30.09 # if we limit the output power based on one set of headphones, we risk making that level far too low for another set 15.31.44 # Sure. But if the user can define his own volume limit, that could work 15.31.51 # lebellium: the equaliser precut is basically already that :) 15.32.38 # I'm doubtful there is much we can do that will do any realistic difference. limits will undoubtedly be raised "too high" by users, and then we're back to "it's your fault". 15.33.34 # also, a few seconds at max DAC output caused temporary hearing issues? what the hell headphones are those 15.33.37 # :) 15.34.40 # hearing protection is a very serious topic, but I don't see what actual difference we can make (as opposed to symbolic gestures) 15.34.51 * pretty_function (~sigBART@123.252.214.80) has joined #rockbox 15.35.09 # with sensitive IEM it can be very very loud. I wouldn't be surprised if a few seconds exposure at max level can cause hearing loss 15.35.38 # yes, it's quite possible 15.36.08 # anywya. when the topic of a volume limit has come up before people have pointed out that the eq precut basically does exactly that 15.36.16 # I'd say it is up to the user to THINK 15.36.33 # Yeah, don't listen to a device with a new firmware you've never used before with your IEMs in 15.36.41 # maybe start playback first 15.36.45 # *then* put them in? 15.36.52 # wodz: sure, that's easy to say. but I think rather the question is if there's anything we can do to mitigate the effects of a mistake 15.37.32 # wodz: He said it was an "error". I also sometimes turned up the volume unintentionally because I forgot to activate "hold" or what. 15.37.58 # there is next to nothing we can do about it 15.38.00 # IMO 15.38.06 # I think it's a serious issue that we should not trivialize. But I also don't think we should add something that would only be a symbolic gesture. 15.38.16 # there's still the bug on android where sometimes the volume is at max even though the global volume was lower 15.40.20 # without the feedback from IEM it is impossible to have sensible protection 15.42.23 # perhaps one solution is to simply document the fact that equalizer precut can be used as max volume limiter 15.42.41 # then again, how many people read the manuals? 15.42.53 # indeed 15.42.59 # I partially read the manual 15.43.09 # and was not aware of that EQ precut 15.43.09 # if you don't think to turn the volume down before playing, then you aren't likely to read the manual to discover the limit and set it either 15.43.27 # that guy's specific case could only have been prevented by having a fairly harsh limit applied by default 15.43.44 # and then a huge number of other users are inevitably going to come and ask why rockbox is so quiet 15.43.58 # because nobody ever reads any documentation at all 15.44.31 # that's true 15.44.53 # another idea is to force the user to set max volume at first boot 15.45.22 # true. 15.45.28 # seems overly complicated though 15.46.29 # but most users browse the main comprehensible settings. So a not so hidden "volume limit" setting could help compared to that mysterious EQ precut 15.47.32 # lebellium: I rather think most users would never set it 15.47.43 # even if they see it 15.48.50 # hum you're probably right :( 15.48.51 # I think it's something you don't think you need until one day you wish you'd had it 15.49.29 # fixed.cfg can be used to apply a low volume at boot 15.50.05 # kugel: yeah but I think most people would find that annoying and disable it 15.51.04 # how's it annoying? you can simply turn up the volume as it's not capped (no need to go through menus and toggle the eq precut) 15.51.21 # anyway, we have more than one solution to this problem in place already 15.51.38 # I like to have my player resume to the same state I turned it off 15.51.58 # what is the default volume? like, if you literally have no config file? 15.52.01 # is it 0dB? 15.52.05 # no 15.52.17 # -30 or so, iirc 15.53.02 # Zagor: you're also not the one who wants his ears protected against accidental loudness :) 15.53.39 # oh, I do. I just don't want to to get in the way of normal usage. 15.53.47 # *want it to 15.54.07 # IMO this is a finer solution to the problem, as you can still gradually turn up the volume (depending on the IEMs) without applying artificial limits 15.55.13 # sure. but what we need is a solution that can be shipped turned on 15.55.17 # anyway, we have _both_ so I don't think we have to act upon it 15.55.25 # BTW, logs stopped working at 13:30?! http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20121113 I wanted to give people the opportunity to follow this discussion 15.55.51 # lebellium: argh :-( 15.55.59 # I broke it when fiddling with logbot 15.56.32 # fixed now 15.58.28 # I'll try to repair it 15.59.11 Quit the-kyle (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.07.56 # repaired 16.08.17 # cool! 16.08.19 # thank you 16.08.52 Quit sciopat (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 16.11.24 Quit yuriks (Read error: Operation timed out) 16.26.53 Quit zoktar (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.36.04 Quit Clear_runway (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 16.37.09 Quit Rondom (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.40.26 Quit derk0pf () 16.43.01 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 16.50.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.54.42 Join Rondom [0] (~rondom@2a01:488:66:1000:b24d:4f2f:0:1) 16.59.53 # can you accidentely increase the volume in a dangerous way ? 17.01.06 # if you have the player in your pocket and forgot to lock the keys... 17.01.43 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 17.23.51 # we actually have instructions in the manual for adding a volume limiter using the precut 17.25.33 # <[Saint]> it probably wouldn;t be too hard to add some form of (optional) rate limiting to the volume. 17.26.02 # <[Saint]> for scrollwheels or so. so that you can't accidentally increase the volume more than X in Y time. 17.26.32 # saratoga: should wmafixed.c stay GPL ? 17.27.33 # rest of libwma is LGPL (comes from ffmpeg) 17.27.34 # let me check 17.27.39 # it might use a bit of libmad 17.28.47 # fsincos is from somewhere else in rockbox 17.28.50 # so its probably gpl 17.29.51 Join derk0pf [0] (~k@p5DDC0EF1.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.36.01 Join eckoit [0] (~ryan@50.65.10.24) 17.39.06 Join yuriks [0] (~yuriks@147.126.10.25) 17.39.20 Part eckoit 17.42.00 Quit ender1 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17.47.51 Quit yuriks (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17.52.56 Join ender1 [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 18.06.19 Quit pretty_function (Read error: Operation timed out) 18.12.36 Quit the-kyle (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.12.43 # <[Saint]> damn the forum is slow. 18.13.20 Join sciopat [0] (~sciop@yer91-2-82-237-54-159.fbx.proxad.net) 18.13.40 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@cpe-024-211-185-030.nc.res.rr.com) 18.15.31 Quit sciopath (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.16.43 # git went in 18.16.46 # *gif 18.21.22 Quit sciopat (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18.24.36 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 18.26.12 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 18.27.05 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 18.30.08 Join lebellium_ [0] (~chatzilla@g231204048.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.30.09 Join sciopath [0] (~sciop@yer91-2-82-237-54-159.fbx.proxad.net) 18.30.57 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.31.01 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-32-53.dynamic.chello.pl) 18.31.02 Nick lebellium_ is now known as lebellium (~chatzilla@g231204048.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.31.43 Quit pamaury (Read error: Operation timed out) 18.37.14 Join yuriks [0] (~yuriks@147.126.81.6) 18.40.14 # opus is not listed in MajorChanges 18.41.55 Quit yuriks (Changing host) 18.41.55 Join yuriks [0] (~yuriks@opentyrian/developer/yuriks) 18.50.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.52.20 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 18.53.14 Join Wardo [0] (~Mirandaha@109.190.120.176) 18.59.36 Quit gevaerts (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 19.06.21 Quit evilnick (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.07.12 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 19.11.17 Join gevaerts [0] (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 19.16.40 Quit akaWolf (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.24.40 Quit MethoS- (Read error: Operation timed out) 19.27.55 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Quit) 19.28.37 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 19.31.33 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 19.33.27 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 19.34.29 # anyone feel like doing a couple of relatively simple bugfixes in rockbox? 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Hamilton: Neutronium Alchemist) 23.40.31 Quit sciopath (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.45.08 Join fireandfuel [0] (~secure@i577B659A.versanet.de) 23.46.12 Join sciopath [0] (~sciop@yer91-2-82-237-54-159.fbx.proxad.net) 23.46.33 Quit yuriks (Changing host) 23.46.33 Join yuriks [0] (~yuriks@opentyrian/developer/yuriks) 23.47.51 Part fireandfuel ("PONG :zelazny.freenode.net") 23.49.17 Quit sciopat (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.52.06 # pamaury: those RMAA tests you posted look like one of the voltages is wrong 23.52.59 # I saw that the OF setup something related to the biais voltage, does it make sense ? 23.53.15 # * pamaury knows nothing about all this 23.53.40 # yeah 23.53.51 # i was going to say that it might be that some amp isn't biased or something 23.54.05 # usually a lot of THD/IMD means you're over driving something out of its linear region 23.54.23 # ok 23.54.40 # is the DAC built into the IMX? 23.54.43 # yes 23.54.52 # it has a lot of adjusting bits 23.55.27 # let me see if anything jumps out at me 23.56.03 # one can adjust the VDDA, adjust the VBG, change the biais and adjust other reference voltages 23.57.08 # reversing the OF on that point is really hard unfortunately. I took me forever to find out how to cancel the audio pop 23.57.40 # saratoga: do you have access to the imx233 datasheet ? perhaps you can have a look ? 23.57.45 # yeah i'm skimming it now 23.58.02 # do you know if operates in capless mode (audio output is through a cap into the headphones)? 23.58.30 # it seems to operate in capless mode from what I can see from the OF 23.58.44 # would I see the difference on the RMAA output if it was wrong ?