--- Log for 24.11.112 Server: sturgeon.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: Guest15304 Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 21 hours ago 00.00.01 Join Buglouse [0] (~Buglouse@unaffiliated/Buglouse) 00.00.47 Join SuperBrainAK [0] (~Andy@pool-173-79-63-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 00.03.50 # this will be why you are having problems 00.04.41 # windows doesnt find any error 00.06.55 # and cant copy the file to my pc 00.07.07 # I think rockbox hates me 00.07.19 # lol :D 00.07.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.09.31 # no, it just hates the ipod. 00.09.49 # ahh there is it ... 00.09.57 # I bet it isn't Rockbox, boot the Apple software and try that 00.09.59 # thats the reason 00.12.19 Join fbrito [0] (~brito@a82-95-122-99.adsl.xs4all.nl) 00.12.24 # mmm same issue with apple software ... it is my device ... right ?? 00.13.39 Quit CountryGent181 (Quit: Leaving) 00.14.34 # does anyone know any tool for reading the TagcacheDB apart from the ones listed on the TagcacheDBFormat wiki page? 00.16.20 # I am considering writing my own ruby script to read the database and write the ratings directly on my local mp3 files, but I would like to know what is already available 00.16.24 Quit alcor (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 00.20.35 Quit jlbiasini (Quit: jlbiasini) 00.30.45 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 00.41.47 Part fbrito 00.51.13 Join brkfstsqd [0] (~quassel@ip68-224-121-213.lv.lv.cox.net) 00.51.31 Nick SuperBrainAK is now known as wants (~Andy@pool-173-79-63-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 00.52.03 Nick wants is now known as SuperBrainAK (~Andy@pool-173-79-63-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 00.54.27 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 01.00.15 Quit Rower85 (Quit: Hmmm...) 01.17.12 # I will never buy an apple product again, they are locked down POS that have the potential to be good but they perposly degrade it. 01.20.16 Quit brkfstsqd (Remote host closed the connection) 01.20.42 Join brkfstsqd [0] (~quassel@ip68-224-121-213.lv.lv.cox.net) 01.42.46 Quit ender1 (Quit: Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. -- Seneca) 01.43.16 Quit bertrik (Read error: Operation timed out) 01.53.41 Join icarusfactor [0] (~factor@r74-195-189-14.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 01.53.52 Quit factor (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 02.00.19 Nick icarusfactor is now known as factor (~factor@r74-195-189-14.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 02.07.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.10.17 Join GigaG11 [0] (~48f1a85e@www.haxx.se) 02.10.21 # hey I need some help with my Clip Zip 02.10.24 # on Rockbox 02.16.30 # anybody here 02.19.20 Quit Wardo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.22.45 # Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines will help you get help :) 02.23.28 # #9 02.32.33 # Can Rockbox on the Clip Zip simultaneously play the FM radio while doing something else such as a plugin? That is a feature I really want. 02.34.57 # it can audio, i'm not sure about FM 02.35.01 # yes it can 02.35.26 # I just tested it out, listening to fm radio while playing pong 02.36.49 # snake and FM radio works just fine also. 02.37.26 # GigaG11 which plugin where you having in mind? 02.38.09 # I really do not care, I just want to know how to quit out of the FM radio in a way that it will continue playing. The resume playing button played some audio on the player. 02.38.20 # instead of the radio 02.39.18 # wow the FM buttons on the sansa players make no sense 02.40.19 # While in the FM radio, the power button should exit out to the menu. From there, the radio will continue to play, unless you begin playing audio or recording from the microphone. In either of those cases, it will switch. 02.40.51 # You press the power button 02.40.54 # Thank you! 02.40.56 # This is my experience on a Clip+, and doesn't necesarily work on other players. 02.41.02 # It works 02.41.13 # Can you give a basic list of button commands for Rockbox? 02.41.17 # for the Clip Zip 02.41.37 # home + select = screen lock 02.42.06 # what do people think about FS#12616 ? 02.42.07 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12616 3Clip+ Radio Keymap More Consistent (patches, unconfirmed) 02.42.24 # http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansaclipzip/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-400004.1.1 02.42.54 # I apologize, but what buttons are "home" and "select" 02.43.48 # the button with the over arrow in the upper left right above the back button 02.44.03 # select is the button in the center 02.44.51 # I hope that helps 02.45.50 # I can't lock the screen using the back arrow button in the upper left along with the center. How do I do that? 02.46.24 # press at the same time 02.47.30 # I think it only works while playing off the device and not in the radio mode 02.47.57 Quit Gallomimia (Quit: I am likely going to change locations) 02.48.02 # GigaG11 did you just get it today? 02.49.47 # i think i'll update that patch and see if anyone minds redoing the fm radio keymap 02.49.51 # its so bad now i can't imagine they do 02.50.55 # redsteakraw - Yes, I got it at 6AM for Black Friday 02.51.23 # Nice little device, even with an "unstable" port 02.51.41 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.54.05 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-075-177-082-185.triad.res.rr.com) 03.01.03 Quit phiii (Quit: CGI:IRC) 03.02.37 Join efyx_ [0] (~efyx@91.179.75.13) 03.02.57 # Let me guess radioshack 03.03.40 # I got it also to replace my Clip+ and so I can play doom 03.05.13 Quit efyx (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.05.14 # GigaG11 If there is an FYE by you they are selling some good Sennheiser CX150 earbuds for $19.99 03.06.48 # ok updated that flyspray task with the new keymap and manual 03.06.54 # if anyone dislikes it, please speak up 03.08.43 # what did you change? 03.09.47 # saratoge a link would be nice, to see and a record would be logged in the chan for future reference 03.15.14 # i linked it above 03.21.11 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 03.30.29 Quit redsteakraw (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 03.34.43 # <[Saint]> [11:01:37] I think we have a UI way of selecting what is scanned to the db now too, although I don't know if it is fine grained enough for indiviual songs or just directoires <--- just directories, it is essentially just a UI to manage to placement/removal of .ignore/.unignore files. 03.49.52 # qwer123 03.50.04 # nvm 03.50.16 Quit GigaG11 (Quit: CGI:IRC) 03.50.37 # <[Saint]> quick, quick! kick him and steal his account! :P 03.50.51 # <[Saint]> wooo! don't even need to kick him! :) 03.58.55 Quit derk0pf () 04.07.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.19.24 Join eckoit [0] (~ryan@50.65.10.24) 04.26.53 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.26.53 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.26.54 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.26.54 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.26.55 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.26.56 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.31.49 Quit brkfstsqd (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.37.31 Quit eckoit (Quit: eckoit) 04.43.54 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@p5B3237A3.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.48.06 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 04.51.31 Join Tobias2362345523 [0] (~3cf029e7@www.haxx.se) 04.52.56 Join Doormat [0] (~7caa035a@www.haxx.se) 04.53.10 # Hey, just installed rockbox on my sansa clip+, now when I plug it in to my computer I get "device driver software was not sucessfully installed" and it won't show up as a drive 04.57.23 Quit Doormat (Client Quit) 04.58.37 Join Doormat [0] (~Doormat@124-170-3-90.dyn.iinet.net.au) 04.58.50 # i think it does that the first time you plug it into a windows machine 04.58.54 # due to some bug 05.00.32 # I have to replace my Clip Zip (it didn't handle falling off the bike at 100 kph) and I want something with bigger buttons and it MUST run rockbox. Was thinking about an ipod classic but I'm not sure if rockbox runs on them? 05.00.59 # it does, see the front page 05.01.35 # I see the front page - but wasn't sure if 1g through 5.5g covered the classics you can buy now 05.02.09 # "Apple iPod Classic" 05.02.41 # Ah - down under unusable ports. SOrry - I didn't see that. 05.05.05 # Correct me if I'm wrong, but does the Clip+ not have slightly larger buttons than the Clip Zip, but at the expense of a smaller screen? Also, the clip_ doesn't have a color screen; it's just some kind of blue or something I think. 05.05.18 # s/Clip_/Clip+/ 05.05.22 # Tge clip+ appears frozen, all it shows on screen is a picture of a USB cord as well as the usual stuff at the top. Clock hasn't changed at all. Every time I reconnect it, I just get the device not recognized again 05.05.45 # reboot it 05.05.51 # Oh sorry, I read you broke a Clip Zip. 05.06.15 # oh hey, that worked, turns out I just had to hold the button down a lot longer then I expected 05.06.18 # the-kyle: i don't know about the size exactly (sim can probably show you), but yes the zip is the only one with a color screen 05.06.50 Quit Tobias2362345523 (Quit: CGI:IRC) 05.07.09 # lol - trashed it pretty well ... it was brilliant while it lasted - sounded great. But trying to use the buttons with bike gloves on was a pain 05.08.07 # So I'm thinking it comes down to a trade-off between button size and screen readability. Either way, I'm not sure I'd trade an unstable port for an unusable port. 05.08.25 # I don't think the clip+ is that much larger. I thought the ipod, but don't much fancy partial battery recharge ... and trying to see what that actually means 05.09.23 # I couldn't care less about dual booting though - I wouldn't install itunes if apple paid me, so that's not a problem 05.10.10 # The body of the Clip+ is actually slightly smaller than the Clip Zip from what I read, but I also read that the buttons are smaller to accomodate the larger screen. I could be way off base though, since I am only *considering* a Clip Zip as my next purchase some time down the line, and have only read reviews so far. 05.11.37 # As for the iPod, I'm a bit concerned about the partial charge, but maybe someone here who writes code for that port could shed some light on what works and what doesn't. 05.12.35 # Disclaimer: Also, I'm not a developer, only a happy user trying to help. 05.14.12 # I can't recommend the Zip highly enough - I'd buy another today except for the button issue. Mind you - the standard software on it is complete crap, but with rockbox it was brilliant 05.15.49 # The Zip is very likely to be my next Rockbox player, although I do my best to take good care of my Clip+. I definitely like the prices, the Zip and + are very close. 05.16.19 # Perhaps I need to think in a different direction: Can anyone recommend a player which is currently available, is stable with rockbox, and has large(largeish) buttons? 05.17.27 # Clip+ and Clip Zip appear to be the most widely available. Clip+ is considered stable, whereas Clip Zip is considered unstable, but as far as I know, that's just because of issues with the manual. 05.17.34 # i think the Clips and iPods are the only players you can still buy new 05.17.57 # Oh yes, and the iPods. 05.18.01 Join eckoit [0] (~ryan@50.65.10.24) 05.18.31 # I wasn't thinking of those, because the new iPod Classic is listed as unusable. 05.18.50 # i mean the classic, the other ipods haven't been made in a very long time 05.20.21 # The Clip line is the only players I'm aware of that can be purchased new and also have Rockbox ports that are either stable or unstable. 05.21.29 Quit Buglouse (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 05.21.55 # /sigh Yeah - that's about what I'd found. I really wanted to avoid apple but it seems the only viable option in the size stakes 05.22.01 Join magpie [0] (~magpie@96-39-160-105.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com) 05.22.59 Quit Prodicus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.23.08 Quit Clear_runway (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 05.23.10 # If purchasing an iPod, hopefully you can still find one that has a stable or unstable port. Unusable is quite a bit harder to install, and at least some important functions haven't yet been implemented. 05.27.10 Join Buglouse [0] (~Buglouse@unaffiliated/Buglouse) 05.31.19 # I might be better off going with another zip ... thanks guys. 05.32.55 # what was missing on the classic charging, just detection of AC adapters? 05.35.41 # it doesn't actually say what's missing. In the table it says 'battery charging' partial - but the actual page for the port doesn't mention power at all 05.36.48 Join Gallomimia [0] (~Gallo@d64-180-210-223.bchsia.telus.net) 05.39.30 Quit Doormat (Quit: Leaving) 05.40.12 # charging is implemented, otherwise you wouldn't be able to use the port 05.40.16 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 05.40.26 Join [7] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.50.14 Quit Gallomimia (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.50.34 Join Gallomimia [0] (~Gallo@d64-180-210-223.bchsia.telus.net) 05.51.12 Quit Gallomimia (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.51.30 Join Gallomimia [0] (~Gallo@d64-180-210-223.bchsia.telus.net) 05.52.20 Quit Gallomimia (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.52.38 Join Gallomimia [0] (~Gallo@d64-180-210-223.bchsia.telus.net) 05.57.38 Quit Gallomimia (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.57.54 Join Gallomimia_ [0] (~Gallo@d64-180-210-223.bchsia.telus.net) 05.58.11 Quit Gallomimia_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.58.42 Join Gallomimia [0] (~Gallo@d64-180-210-223.bchsia.telus.net) 06.07.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.22.28 Join brkfstsqd [0] (~quassel@ip68-224-121-213.lv.lv.cox.net) 06.37.36 Join akaWolf [0] (~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf) 07.26.39 Quit Gallomimia (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 07.49.35 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.215.3) 07.51.16 Join Gallomimia [0] (~Gallo@d64-180-210-223.bchsia.telus.net) 07.56.51 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@213.37.219.103.dyn.user.ono.com) 08.05.45 Join melmothX [0] (~melmoth@unaffiliated/melmothx) 08.07.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.16.39 Quit SuperBrainAK (Quit: pbly going to sleep /_\) 08.34.11 Join megal0maniac [0] (~megal0man@unaffiliated/megal0maniac) 08.50.43 Quit ParkerR_ (Excess Flood) 08.52.51 Join ParkerR [0] (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) 09.02.04 Quit Scr0mple (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09.07.58 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@host11-253-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 09.08.38 Join kevku [0] (x@indeed.tastes.like.everything.mm.am) 09.09.53 # pamaury: I'm uploading STMP stuff :) 09.10.20 # 36xx is very rich, linux code (already compiled to test, okay), some device drivers and bootloader!! 09.10.38 # 34xx/35xx there are some interesting things for some players too 09.12.01 # atm I'm comparing 2 .dat files of 2 versions and indeed there is an header and a part that doesn't change, need to find its size and the compare to the header 09.12.29 # I think the method is pretty much the same as for R0: lots of parts inside a .rom file, parts encrypted with XOR 09.23.29 Nick ParkerR is now known as ParkerR_ (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) 09.29.31 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.38.24 Quit brkfstsqd (Remote host closed the connection) 09.38.53 Quit pretty_function (Remote host closed the connection) 09.39.28 Quit Provel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 09.47.13 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-189-14.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 09.48.43 Quit eckoit (Quit: eckoit) 09.49.31 # pamaury: here it is (the first part) https://www.dropbox.com/s/i5q5dg16kl93pre/linuxbsp-stmp36xx-kernel-20060601-375.tar.gz 09.53.47 Join Provel [0] (~Provel@75-132-15-43.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 09.56.55 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 10.03.50 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@2001:470:9c7c:abc:68de:35ff:fe6c:6f46) 10.04.57 # link updated in http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SigmaTelSTMP3xxx 10.05.08 # but please upload also somewhere else :) 10.07.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.14.06 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.215.3) 10.14.16 # pamaury: since the big package is really big - i will need to do the job @ university I think - , here the bootloader packages (most interesting ones I guess :)) https://www.dropbox.com/s/ha4wshmlj3xaa5p/stmp36xx-linux-tarballs.tar.gz 10.29.26 Join Ward [0] (~Mirandaha@176-120-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) 10.29.54 Nick Ward is now known as Guest53215 (~Mirandaha@176-120-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) 10.37.05 Join Rower85 [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-90.bitnet.nu) 10.44.19 Join ender1 [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 10.55.11 Join derk0pf [0] (~k@p5DDC13CC.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.57.26 Join stoffel_ [0] (~quassel@pD9E42FD2.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.02.14 Quit pretty_function (Remote host closed the connection) 11.03.36 Quit Guest53215 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 11.05.39 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.09.02 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 11.09.02 Quit n1s (Changing host) 11.09.02 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 11.12.49 Quit ParkerR_ (Excess Flood) 11.13.12 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 11.14.23 Join ParkerR [0] (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) 11.18.56 # omg I've just seen a crappy phone with some enhanced RDS features -> AF & TA :D 11.19.34 # is just matter of writing some code for RDS i think or? 11.21.07 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-182-191.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 11.29.29 Quit n1s (Read error: Connection timed out) 11.33.24 # lorenzo92: I've got the packages, I'll have a look at it 11.35.25 # yes ;) in the meantime I was trying to decode the OF firmware update...but I think it will be easier when I get the device (is it possible to dump the firmware with firmwareExtractor tool, you think?) 11.38.44 # what is firmwareExtractor ? 11.39.29 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-075-177-082-185.triad.res.rr.com) 11.42.02 # lorenzo92: is the elftosb tool in this package ? 11.42.41 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@e179038118.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.42.49 # uhm don't know, need to search for 11.45.15 # omg, I don't know who got this package but it contains an impressive number of stuff 11.48.09 # :D 11.48.33 # moreover the package would be 500 mb 11.48.43 # with also other stuff like cramfs builder 11.48.47 # and other cpu's 11.50.32 # pamaury: I can see elftousb in a script, but don't find the executable uhm 11.53.39 # http://handheld.freeforums.org/sigmatel-sdk-t258-10.html maybe some info in there 11.54.11 Quit stoffel_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 11.56.21 Join stoffel_ [0] (~quassel@pD9E42FD2.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.00.06 Quit Rower85 (Quit: Hmmm...) 12.02.54 Join [Saint_] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 12.03.09 Nick ParkerR is now known as ParkerR_ (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) 12.03.32 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 12.07.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.26.06 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 12.27.18 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 12.28.36 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g231123193.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.29.10 Quit bluebrother^ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 12.30.04 Quit stoffel_ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12.32.40 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 12.32.41 Quit n1s (Changing host) 12.32.41 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 12.33.07 # lorenzo92: I found the stmp36xx sdk, which contains elftosb 12.33.08 Join Topy44 [0] (kvirc@f048108188.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.33.17 # good :D 12.33.27 Join eckoit [0] (~ryan@50.65.10.24) 12.34.31 # http://en.pudn.com/downloads99/sourcecode/multimedia/streaming/detail403423_en.html 12.34.55 # if you have a pudn account you can download it, otherwise I can send it to you 12.36.21 Quit Topy44|2 (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 12.39.57 Quit fs-bluebot (Read error: Connection timed out) 12.44.52 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g231123193.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.47.10 Quit eckoit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12.51.28 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p4FC74293.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.53.45 # lorenzo92: did you see my private message ? 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 13.05.01 # pamaury: sorry I was away, now i give a look 13.25.01 Quit swilde (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 13.50.11 Quit y4n (Quit: Today is the perfect day for a perfect day.) 13.51.47 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 14.07.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.16.12 Quit megal0maniac (Quit: megal0maniac) 14.43.49 Join nateloaf1 [0] (~nwild@S0106bcaec5c3e90e.wp.shawcable.net) 14.44.43 Quit nateloaf1 (Client Quit) 14.45.48 Quit nateloaf (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 14.50.07 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 14.54.57 Join mirak [0] (~mirak@89-92-229-91.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 14.57.22 Join nateloaf [0] (~nwild@S0106bcaec5c3e90e.wp.shawcable.net) 15.03.14 Quit ParkerR_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 15.08.53 Quit lorenzo92 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.10.54 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 15.11.42 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@2001:470:9c7c:abc:68de:35ff:fe6c:6f46) 15.13.23 Join ParkerR [0] (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) 15.33.20 Nick ParkerR is now known as ParkerR_ (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) 15.45.15 Join Kadeec [0] (~bcc1d88e@www.haxx.se) 15.45.35 Join sentriz [0] (~Senan@78.143.151.93) 15.46.30 # morning all...i updated RB on sansa c250 v1 using RB utility and now stuck on scanning disk for hours... 16.05.02 Join eckoit [0] (~ryan@50.65.10.24) 16.05.10 # I'm planning to get Rockbox Utiltiy 1.3.1 done this weekend. Anything I should look into first? 16.07.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.14.03 Quit eckoit (Quit: eckoit) 16.15.14 Quit factor (Quit: Leaving) 16.21.40 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 16.23.14 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-075-177-082-185.triad.res.rr.com) 16.26.54 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@host11-253-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 16.34.25 Join Led_Zeppelin [0] (~user@ool-45772e25.dyn.optonline.net) 16.34.33 # hi anyone here own a portable amp? 16.34.48 # I was wondering if I should put the volume higher on my DAP or my amp? 16.42.13 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 16.43.05 Quit lorenzo92 (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0/20121120062532]) 16.45.22 Quit shamus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.45.50 Join shamus [0] (~shamus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 16.46.36 Join perrikwp_ [0] (~quassel@cpe-075-177-082-185.triad.res.rr.com) 16.50.36 # Led_Zeppelin: I'm not an expert but I woudl say on the amp because the point of having an exeternal amplifier is that it better amplifies 16.51.39 # hmm, i read the opposite. I should do a line out (ie. 100% on the DAP) and use the amp to control the volume 16.54.01 # line out isn't the same as full volume on a headphones output 16.54.37 # ah 16.54.56 # http://www.head-fi.org/t/455290/best-dap-and-amp-volume-combination 16.55.07 # "DAP line-out (aka 100%) then adjust volume on the amplifier." 16.55.45 # a line out and a headphones output have different impedance for a start 16.58.45 # on a separate topic. When using Sansa Clip+ with flac the battery goes out much faster. What does RB do special to conserve the battery? 17.00.39 # on the assumption that sana have the hardware docs and therefore know how to turn off unused hardware at least as well as we do, Rockbox has put a massive amount of time and effort into optimising the codecs 17.01.18 # makes sense. It isn't affecting the flac feed though right? like downsampling it ? 17.03.09 # flac feed through? 17.03.13 # yes 17.03.24 # I don't know what you mean by that 17.03.47 # is the flac being compressed on the fly and giving a lower bit rate to conserve power? 17.03.57 # but I guess the compression/decompression would take up a lot more juice 17.03.59 # :p 17.05.39 # no, it is being decompressed... 17.05.39 # that's how it is played 17.05.52 # nice 17.05.55 # love RB 17.06.05 # that is how codecs work 17.07.02 # Led_Zeppelin: yes, DAP at 0dB and use the amp to control volume 17.07.26 # 0dB means highest possible, right? 17.07.33 # not necessarily 17.07.37 # heh 17.07.39 # in Rockbox, the max is +6 dB 17.07.51 # oh in RB i set it to 0db ? 17.07.57 # on the Clip+ and iPod Classic anyway 17.08.07 # Led_Zeppelin: yes 17.08.35 Quit Xerion (Quit: ) 17.08.38 # copper: yeah, not on all targets :) 17.08.56 # right 17.09.56 # "When using Sansa Clip+ with flac the battery goes out much faster." <-- with Rockbox, or the original firmware? 17.10.30 # with the OF, that's a known issue, but with rockbox, you should get MORE battery life with FLAC, not less 17.11.20 # Yeah, I think that's what he meant 17.11.34 # ok, set mine to 0Db 17.14.09 Join eckoit [0] (~ryan@50.65.10.24) 17.35.53 # copper: i get less with flac and a TF card 17.36.23 # with Rockbox? 17.36.28 # yes 17.36.40 # and a microsdhc card? 17.36.47 # yup 17.37.00 # that's strange 17.37.07 # did you run a battery benchmark? 17.37.09 # inideed 17.37.26 # what was the other codec and what were the results? 17.37.43 # i only play flac 17.37.51 # uh 17.38.01 # then how can you tell you get less battery life 17.38.03 # less than what 17.38.05 # but compaired to playing flac on the onboard memory i get much less 17.38.27 # ah 17.38.32 # nothing to do with FLAC then 17.38.57 # how much time did you get on both? 17.39.29 # and going through ablums ... compaired to the OF i go through 4 playthroughs of Dreaming Neon Black less on rockbox using a TF card than with the OF 17.39.42 # but 17.40.00 # its no big dea copper as my E260 gets 27 hours of battery life 17.40.08 # benchmarked btw ;) 17.40.39 # that's yet something else 17.41.08 # first you talk about flac, then you talk about differences between internal flash and external flash, then you talk about the OF 17.42.14 # you're all over the place 17.42.22 # meh never mind .. i was thinking of getting rid of the clip+ 17.49.52 Quit sciopath (Quit: Quitte) 18.04.19 Quit melmothX (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 18.06.28 Join melmothX [0] (~melmoth@unaffiliated/melmothx) 18.07.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.09.41 Quit sentriz (Quit: Leaving) 18.10.01 Quit ParkerR_ (Excess Flood) 18.14.27 Join ParkerR [0] (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) 18.16.15 Quit swilde (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.29.44 Quit Kadeec (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 18.33.11 Join Gallomimia_ [0] (~Gallo@d64-180-210-223.bchsia.telus.net) 18.33.12 Quit Gallomimia (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.33.12 Nick Gallomimia_ is now known as Gallomimia (~Gallo@d64-180-210-223.bchsia.telus.net) 18.39.36 Quit Buglouse (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 18.44.50 Join Buglouse [0] (~Buglouse@unaffiliated/Buglouse) 18.48.13 Join SuperBrainAK [0] (~Andy@pool-173-79-63-191.washdc.fios.verizon.net) 18.51.08 Join arad [0] (~Adium@12.227.89.185) 18.51.42 # Hi I am a n00b and I have a problem with my Fuze. Can someone please help me? 18.52.40 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p54947525.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.52.41 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 18.52.41 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 18.54.07 Quit Horscht (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.54.40 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p54947525.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.54.41 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 18.54.41 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 18.55.07 Quit Horscht (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.05.33 # nobody here who can tell me how to manually remove rockbox from a sansa fuze v1 (since the forum is down) and the rockboxutility is not doing the job? 19.06.19 # Reinstall the original firmware 19.07.56 # i.e. put the file on the player, and then boot the original firmware, which will then install it 19.17.16 # Thanks gev but where do I put the original firmware? I don't have access to the root directory it appears. (I am unable to boot to the original Sansa firmware which is why I am trying to do this.) 19.17.49 # I have put the latest fuzea.bin in the lowest dir I can see from my computer but that does not seem to help 19.18.04 Quit Led_Zeppelin (Quit: Leaving) 19.18.19 # If you can't boot the OF, something else is going on 19.18.34 # You *have* to boot that to reinstall it 19.19.31 # darn! I was having some weird problems with the wheel and I thought if I boot to the original firmware I can fix it but I guess I can't do it... 19.19.54 # so it is basically bricked then? 19.20.15 Part eckoit 19.20.28 # What happens if you try to boot the OF? 19.21.32 # the wheel is functioning in a weird way so I can't press the left arrow to boot. Is there another way to boot to the of? 19.22.01 # None that I can think of. Sounds like you have hardware issues then... 19.23.06 # yeah that's what I was afraid of. I really like the player but they don't sell it anymore :( 19.23.40 Nick ParkerR is now known as ParkerR_ (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) 19.24.01 # nothing else comes close to the price/quality ratio and I won't buy anything that won't run rockbox 19.24.23 Quit Totalled (Remote host closed the connection) 19.24.41 Join Totalled [0] (~Totalled@c-98-245-9-211.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 19.26.11 # arad, i totaly agree :) 19.28.54 # gotta run for lunch. if anyone has a solution or has an alternate way of booting the machine, please leave a note here. bbl 19.32.00 Join b0hoon [0] (~quassel@078088063084.bielskobiala.vectranet.pl) 19.42.38 Quit ParkerR_ (Excess Flood) 19.47.46 # i would like to commit g#287. Is anybody against it? 19.47.48 # 3Gerrit review #287 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/287 : Another optimization for the OF in the mi4 format. by Szymon Dziok (changes/87/287/1) 19.47.59 Join ParkerR_ [0] (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) 20.04.30 # whats g#287? you guys are just as bad as the prop people :) 20.04.31 # 3Gerrit review #287 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/287 : Another optimization for the OF in the mi4 format. by Szymon Dziok (changes/87/287/1) 20.05.33 # tanks 20.07.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.09.49 Quit arad (Quit: Leaving.) 20.15.36 Quit Gallomimia (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 20.26.30 Join Gallomimia [0] (~Gallo@d64-180-210-223.bchsia.telus.net) 20.26.50 Quit pystar89 (Remote host closed the connection) 20.29.00 Join pystar89 [0] (~pystar89@ip-37-24-1-174.unitymediagroup.de) 20.30.14 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@190.206.173.177) 20.30.14 Quit anewuser (Changing host) 20.30.14 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 20.32.28 Join amayer [0] (~alex@h227.25.25.72.ip.windstream.net) 20.55.38 Quit akaWolf (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.02.20 Join Wardo [0] (~Mirandaha@176-120-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) 21.04.27 Quit anewuser () 21.23.27 Join jlbiasini [0] (~metaphysi@188.25.5.79) 21.34.57 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-32-53.dynamic.chello.pl) 21.36.11 Quit derk0pf () 21.36.41 # how is lcd_blit_yuv() function used exactly? rk27xx lcdif can be configured to accept yuv input data but I don't know it this will fit usage in rockbox 21.37.00 # b0hoon: I don't know this code very well but the change looks fine, although you should probably poke someone who has a device to test and possibly knows the bootloader of the pp 21.37.24 Join israel [0] (~d4b357b3@www.haxx.se) 21.37.35 # wodz: lcd_blit_yuv blits directly to the screen iirc 21.37.46 # pamaury: afaik b0hoon tested this change on his PP targets 21.37.52 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@5419F5F4.cm-5-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 21.38.22 Quit israel (Client Quit) 21.38.33 Join israel [0] (~d4b357b3@www.haxx.se) 21.38.52 # pamaury: the question is what does it mean 'blit' here? If this is interleaved with regular rgb updates then I don't know how to use hw converter. 21.39.31 # iirc there is a subtlety here: a call to lcd_blit_yuv implies a screen update, and you can even bypass the framebuffer if you want 21.39.33 # pamaury: btw iriver e200 is also atj213x so the whole E series is built around the same hw/sw platform 21.40.11 Quit scorche (Disconnected by services) 21.40.15 Join scorche` [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 21.40.32 # so on imx233: lcd_blit_yuv = conversion + lcd_update_rect. And I should implement the conversion with the hardware colorspace converter when I have the motivation 21.41.20 Join webguest26 [0] (~d4b357b3@www.haxx.se) 21.41.44 # pamaury: hmm so equivalent of lcd_update_rect() but accepting input in yuv format should work right? 21.41.47 Quit webguest26 (Client Quit) 21.41.54 Join webguest62 [0] (~d4b357b3@www.haxx.se) 21.42.43 # yes 21.43.30 Quit israel (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 21.44.07 # is it used by anything else then mpegplayer? 21.44.14 # not that I know 21.44.54 # note that you are *not* required to update the framebuffer. For example the as3525 lcd driver directly sends the yuv converted data to the lcd 21.45.43 # thats what I want to do - lcd_update_rect() variant which will only update part of the screen 21.46.51 Quit webguest62 (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 21.46.58 Join webguest13 [0] (~d4b357b3@www.haxx.se) 21.47.34 # pamaury: btw. have you observed charging curve on your rk27xx? The one on mine looks pretty strange 21.47.55 Quit webguest13 (Client Quit) 21.48.32 Quit Xerion (Read error: No route to host) 21.50.37 # wodz: no, I'll do a battery bench if you want 21.50.44 # it's hardware based right ? 21.51.06 # yes AFAIK 21.51.24 Join webguest49 [0] (~d4b3da8a@www.haxx.se) 21.51.29 # hi 21.52.05 # i have a sansa clip zip 21.52.21 # when i start 21.52.24 # RB 21.52.43 # it stucks on "scanning disk" 21.52.51 Quit ender` (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21.52.59 # anyone can help please 21.53.01 # ? 21.53.09 Join ender` [0] (~ender1@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 21.53.37 # ? 21.54.00 Quit Mir (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21.54.00 # pamaury: It looks like this: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/p1060341e.jpg 21.54.34 # no 21.54.36 Join Mir [0] (~Mir@pool-71-109-219-166.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 21.54.42 Quit linuxguy3 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21.54.42 Quit Unhelpful (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21.54.44 # wodz: :-/ very strange indeed, how do you get the measurement ? 21.54.58 Join linuxguy3 [0] (~timj@24-148-61-208.c3-0.lem-ubr1.chi-lem.il.cable.rcn.com) 21.55.11 # webguest49: perhaps bertrik knows ? he has a clip zip 21.55.42 Join Unhelpful [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/Unhelpful) 21.57.07 # pamaury: What you mean? 21.57.58 # perhaps the voltage measurement is wrong for some reason ? I see no reason for the voltage to drop like this 21.58.54 # surely some people here know more about battery ? saratoga perhaps ? 21.59.29 # I did my master thesis about lithium batteries :-) 22.03.10 # so you should know :) 22.03.30 # wodz: what subject precisely ? 22.03.59 Join saratoga_ [0] (4160ac54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.96.172.84) 22.04.14 # no i just listen to wodz 22.04.44 # Cation transference numbers measurements in lithium polymer electrolytes 22.05.35 Join webguest68 [0] (~d4b3da8a@www.haxx.se) 22.05.35 Quit webguest68 (Client Quit) 22.05.42 Join webguest80 [0] (~d4b3da8a@www.haxx.se) 22.06.30 Quit webguest80 (Client Quit) 22.06.40 # hi 22.07.24 # anyone can help please with my sansa zip stuck on "scanning disk" ? 22.07.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.07.58 # i tryd to reinstall RB 22.08.03 # didnt help 22.08.07 # wodz: isn't there a voltage drop at the end of charging a li-ion battery ? if the battery is made of several parts, you can observe drops everytime on of them is fully charged ? just a theory, I know nothing of batteries 22.09.51 # pamaury: there should be no voltage drop at the end of the charging, just the charging current approaches 0. 22.10.10 # anyway batteries on our targets are single cell type 22.10.40 # webguest49: check the disk for file system errors 22.11.02 # moreover this drops occurs during whole charge cycle starting from completely flat battery 22.14.24 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@5419F5F4.cm-5-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 22.14.51 Quit webguest49 (Quit: CGI:IRC) 22.21.11 Join eckoit [0] (~ryan@50.65.10.24) 22.22.45 Nick dionoea_ is now known as dionoea (~dionoea@oyp.chewa.net) 22.23.27 Quit dionoea (Changing host) 22.23.27 Join dionoea [0] (~dionoea@videolan/developer/dionoea) 22.30.35 # perhaps the charging stops and restarts 22.30.51 Quit Xerion (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 22.40.45 Part eckoit 22.42.55 # bertrik: at say 3.6V ? 22.45.41 Join GigaG11 [0] (~48f1a85e@www.haxx.se) 22.46.04 # Is there a Rockbox - compatible player that contains an AM and FM radio? 22.47.06 # GigaG11: no that I know of 22.48.18 Join sakax [0] (~sakax@d8D862498.access.telenet.be) 22.50.53 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 23.02.16 Quit y4n (Quit: Today is the perfect day for a perfect day.) 23.08.20 Quit GigaG11 (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 23.09.40 Join brkfstsqd [0] (~quassel@ip68-224-121-213.lv.lv.cox.net) 23.23.59 Quit Buglouse (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 23.31.55 Join Buglouse [0] (~Buglouse@unaffiliated/Buglouse) 23.41.45 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@5419F5F4.cm-5-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 23.43.07 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 23.54.25 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 23.55.13 Join Clear_runway [0] (~Clear_run@74.221.202.246)