--- Log for 28.11.112 Server: sturgeon.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: Guest15304 Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 7 days and 21 hours ago 00.02.02 Quit bertrik (Read error: Operation timed out) 00.07.55 Quit Poodlemastah (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00.09.00 Join Poodlemastah [0] (~Poodlemas@h-253-206.a218.priv.bahnhof.se) 00.09.19 Nick ParkerR is now known as ParkerR_ (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) 00.09.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.12.05 Join zezayer [0] (~zezayer@cpc7-shef11-2-0-cust155.barn.cable.virginmedia.com) 00.15.48 Join linuxstb [0] (~linuxstb@unaffiliated/linuxstb) 00.16.21 Quit zezayer (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00.18.54 # lorenzo (logs): i've implemented elf extraction. I didn't check the resulting elf files for the updater, so can you have a look at it and tell if it makes sense ? 00.20.26 # as a side not, the updater.sb is *huge*, reversing this thing will be challenging. If I can I will have a look to see if it's also based on ThreadX in which case I can reuse part of my previous disassmembly to simplify the task 00.21.22 Join sciopath [0] (~sciop@yer91-2-82-237-54-159.fbx.proxad.net) 00.21.29 Quit Gallomimia (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 00.24.38 Quit sentriz (Quit: Leaving) 00.26.38 Join Robin0800 [0] (~quassel@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 00.27.25 Quit Robin0800 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.29.18 Join Robin0800 [0] (~quassel@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 00.31.24 Join ender1 [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 00.39.06 Quit sciopath (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 00.39.09 # lorenzo (logs): apparently this samsung is running linux, I found the "uncompressing linux" string in it !! 00.40.45 Join sciopath [0] (~sciop@yer91-2-82-237-54-159.fbx.proxad.net) 00.41.01 # so this updater.sb thing might actually be a "simple" decompressor 00.41.17 Quit xenyz (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 00.46.53 Join Gallomimia [0] (~Gallo@d216-232-229-219.bchsia.telus.net) 00.53.05 Quit ender1 (Quit: The evolution of languages: FORTRAN is a non-typed language. 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C++ is a strongly hyped language. -- Ron Sercely) 00.56.28 Join Gallomimia_ [0] (~Gallo@d216-232-229-219.bchsia.telus.net) 00.56.34 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.56.36 Quit Gallomimia (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.56.37 Nick Gallomimia_ is now known as Gallomimia (~Gallo@d216-232-229-219.bchsia.telus.net) 00.56.46 Quit Buglouse (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00.58.49 Join amayer [0] (~alex@h227.25.25.72.ip.windstream.net) 01.01.13 Quit Gallomimia (Remote host closed the connection) 01.01.43 Join Gallomimia [0] (~Gallo@d64-180-210-223.bchsia.telus.net) 01.05.20 Join Buglouse [0] (~Buglouse@unaffiliated/Buglouse) 01.08.03 Join lebellium_ [0] (~chatzilla@e179039043.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.09.13 Join Gallomimia_ [0] (~Gallo@d216-232-229-219.bchsia.telus.net) 01.09.42 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01.09.42 Nick lebellium_ is now known as lebellium (~chatzilla@e179039043.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.11.41 Quit Gallomimia_ (Client Quit) 01.12.03 Quit Gallomimia (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 01.23.31 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 18.0/20121121075611]) 01.25.46 Quit Robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 01.28.01 Part mercutio22 01.28.02 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01.38.54 Join Gallomimia [0] (~Gallo@d64-180-210-223.bchsia.telus.net) 01.49.25 Quit jevin (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com) 01.53.12 # <[Saint]> scorche`: trivial forum problem. 01.53.26 # <[Saint]> "quote" and "insert quote" aren't functional. 01.58.01 Join MasterPrime [0] (~chatzilla@mo-184-6-88-88.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) 01.59.28 # just installed rockbox on my clip+. now windows won't recognize it. Any idea how to fix that? 02.05.42 # can I use the regular clip+ driver? or should I try something else? 02.09.17 # <[Saint]> Installing the OF's driver won't help you wrt Rockbox, and driver installation shouldn't be a manual thing for such a trivial device anyway. It's simply USB Mass storage. 02.09.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.09.56 # <[Saint]> I would suggest using the OF for USB is Rockbox won't mount. 02.10.01 # <[Saint]> It's basically your only option. 02.11.16 # <[Saint]> Consult our Fine Manual for details on booting the OF: http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansaclipplus/rockbox-buildch3.html#x5-280003.1.3 02.11.55 # Ohhh. so the OF is still on there? 02.12.04 # <[Saint]> Of course. 02.12.19 # so what exactly is RockBox then? I thought it was a replacement. 02.12.20 # * [Saint] suggests reading the manual. 02.12.34 # <[Saint]> It *is* a firmware replacement. 02.12.41 # I've got it open. I've been looking for topics that might fix this issue. 02.13.49 # I didn't think the OF would be necessary for this. Good to know though. This thing is awesome. 02.14.13 # <[Saint]> The OF *is* necessary for this, if you cannot mount the device under Windows. 02.14.21 # <[Saint]> But, if you want to ignore me...go for broke. 02.15.35 # I meant I thought rockbox would still be recognized as a device under windows. 02.16.35 # <[Saint]> Welcome to the world of free software that can and does contain bugs that may drastically limit the functionality, then. :) 02.16.53 # <[Saint]> USB support is very flakey for this particular device (and some others) lately, and apparently this manifests in your case as refusal to mount at all. 02.17.07 # <[Saint]> We don't touch the OF at all, so, if USB worked there before...it still will. 02.18.44 # <[Saint]> You basically have three options available to you: 02.18.54 # <[Saint]> 1 - Try using an older release 02.19.07 # <[Saint]> 2 - try using a newer git HEAD build 02.19.12 # <[Saint]> 3 - boot the OF. 02.19.33 # <[Saint]> 1 and 2 may or may not work, whereas 3 will. 02.19.44 # 3 seems to be the easiest solution and it seems to be working so far. 02.20.34 Join MasterPrime_ [0] (~chatzilla@mo-184-6-88-88.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) 02.21.46 # heh. I unclicked the SD card and it went flying. 02.23.59 Quit MasterPrime (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 02.24.13 Nick MasterPrime_ is now known as MasterPrime (~chatzilla@mo-184-6-88-88.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) 02.27.28 # Saint: thanks for the help. 02.27.43 # <[Saint]> Not a problem. 02.27.55 # Ooh. one more question, is there an advanced calculator app? something with log, ln, and e? 02.28.37 # I've been looking for a nice one that isn't a TI but all the phone apps suck. 02.28.46 # <[Saint]> There will be in the next release. And there is in the current development snapshit. 02.28.54 # <[Saint]> whoops. *s/shit/shot/ 02.28.56 # <[Saint]> heh. 02.29.49 # How buggy is the dev for clip+? 02.30.34 # omg. doom on my mp3 player! I don't need that. but awesome. 02.31.27 # <[Saint]> The nature of the project means that the current revision may be anywhere from "absolutely fine" to "completely and utterly broken". 02.32.15 # so pretty much the same as all the software I use 02.32.19 # <[Saint]> The current Release build _should_ be free of bugs, but this isn't a guarantee that can be made 100% (as you've found out). 02.34.17 # I play minecraft. 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It produce some glitch in menus (but not in WPS). This is way faster then direct write to the controller. 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It says "could not read symbols." 10.50.31 # roolku: yes. I disabled it. I should probably enable it again, it's not alone with this error, see e.g. http://build.rockbox.org/shownewlog.cgi?rev=9d77ad3;type=sansac200v2 10.50.49 # I have *no* idea why that suddenly started appearing 10.53.29 # There, it's back 10.53.30 Quit eckoit (Quit: eckoit) 10.54.01 # okay. :) If there is anything I can do let me know. 10.54.51 # What distribution is it running? Maybe there's some common factor there... 10.56.30 # gevaerts: fedora, 12 I think 10.57.02 # Affected machines so far are roolku-n01, roolku-n02, lb16c-zagor, lb16d-zagor, kugel-x-kugel, and storebror-daniel 10.57.07 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@sestofw01.enea.se) 10.57.07 # gevaerts: btw it is still blocked. 10.57.10 Quit Zagor (Changing host) 10.57.10 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 10.57.29 # roolku: it will be unblocked at the next build round I think 10.57.42 # Zagor: have you seen the recent build errors? 10.58.02 # * Zagor looks 10.58.38 Join Lorenzo92 [0] (~2e121b7e@www.haxx.se) 10.58.44 Quit Lorenzo92 (Client Quit) 11.01.46 Join Lorenzo92 [0] (~2e121b7e@www.haxx.se) 11.03.49 Quit Lorenzo92 (Client Quit) 11.04.48 Quit derk0pf () 11.05.45 Join derk0pf [0] (~k@p5DDC0E74.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.08.47 Join Lorenzo92 [0] (~2e121b7e@www.haxx.se) 11.10.29 Quit Lorenzo92 (Client Quit) 11.13.29 Join Lorenzo92 [0] (2e121b7e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.18.27.126) 11.14.15 # pamaury: great to know when I'm back home I'llgive a look 11.14.31 # perhaps you ask samsung to provide the source 11.14.36 # perhaps updater is even simply g zipped or so 11.15.30 Quit roolku () 11.15.31 # it looks like it's very simple: a decompression glued with a linux kernel 11.15.37 # I'll have a look at it today 11.18.47 Quit Lorenzo92 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 11.19.14 Join Lorenzo92 [0] (2e121b7e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.18.27.126) 11.27.30 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 11.27.32 Quit Lorenzo92 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 11.28.40 Join soap [0] (~soap@cpe-174-102-96-10.woh.res.rr.com) 11.28.40 Quit soap (Changing host) 11.28.40 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 11.29.02 Join Lorenzo92 [0] (~Lorenzo92@46.18.27.126) 11.29.04 Join |akaWolf| [0] (~akaWolf@188.134.9.161) 11.29.38 # pamaury: configured IEC on android hihi 11.29.47 # *irc 11.30.32 Quit akaWolf (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 11.31.25 # pamaury: now I understand why in some firmwares there is a block of data that doesn't change: the kernel ;) 11.32.39 # Do you know if some compression algorithms are starting with 0xA3? 11.35.54 Quit linuxstb (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 11.39.27 # No idea 12.02.34 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@2001:638:605:4:69cf:f2ea:7ebe:5909) 12.03.45 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 12.09.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.10.34 Join linuxstb [0] (~linuxstb@unaffiliated/linuxstb) 12.11.35 Quit Lorenzo92 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.28.27 Join Topy44|2 [0] (kvirc@g228172055.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.28.32 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 12.28.37 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 12.30.56 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.31.50 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12.32.33 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@92.226.71.2) 12.38.50 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 13.15.40 Join Robin0800 [0] (~quassel@81.106.126.244) 13.15.47 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.18.15 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@host235-58-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 13.19.24 # pamaury: where did you find the string uncompressing linux? 13.19.34 # in the updater 13.19.37 # how can I produce a elf file? 13.19.42 # I run sbtoelf 13.19.44 # sbtoelf now works 13.19.48 # uhm 13.19.56 # sbtoelf -x -o output_prefix updater.sb 13.19.57 # but it just outputs to stdout 13.20.00 # ahhh 13.20.04 # got it :D 13.20.32 Quit derk0pf (Remote host closed the connection) 13.23.46 # pamaury: uuuu interesting, seems there is even a command line shell through the uart :) 13.24.15 # hum, I'm puzzled about this updater. It has lots of code which is not directly accessible from main, like usb. So the question is whether this code can actually run or not 13.24.51 # pamaury: haha samsung makes always some strange things in the code, so it wouldn't be so surprising 13.25.12 # at least it doesn't seem to be a full blown os so you should be able to disassemble it easily 13.25.45 # pamaury: Samsung Z5 Nand Update (string :) ) 13.26.11 # yesss we have also the addresses 13.26.11 Quit melmothX (Quit: bau) 13.26.13 # !! 13.26.27 # it is also strange that it has nand read/write code and (what looks like) a linux image glued with it :-/ 13.27.16 # uhm well need to see that better (need to go to lecture now xD) but yes it seems strange, but from what I can see there are at least 4 partitions 13.27.25 # kinda same as other STMP devices 13.27.59 # I love debug strings :p 13.28.57 # well in my opinion, this updater.sb is sent to device only when it's time to recover the firmare through the pc software 13.29.10 # and it's likely to be a linux image and stuff 13.37.32 Quit lorenzo92 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 13.40.29 Quit MethoS- (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 13.56.13 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@46.18.27.126) 13.56.15 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14.09.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.18.22 Quit |akaWolf| (Quit: my exit) 14.18.51 Join amayer_ [0] (~amayer@173.189.251.62) 14.20.25 Join akaWolf [0] (~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf) 14.22.13 Quit CoreWolf_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.24.15 # is there a way to just comment on a gerrit entry instead of actually submitting a review? 14.31.20 # amayer_: not sure, you can add comments and submit a review with 0 score I guess 14.33.27 Quit amayer_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14.38.53 Quit Robin0800 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.39.56 Join amayer_ [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 14.40.15 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 14.48.19 # is logbot down? 14.51.48 # amayer_: no, it's just been side-kicked to Guest15304 :-) 14.52.38 # Zagor: thanks 14.53.10 *** SPY: Authentication failed for Zagor 14.53.26 Nick Guest15304 is now known as logbot (~rockbox@giant.haxx.se) 14.53.57 Nick logbot is now known as Guest62984 (~rockbox@giant.haxx.se) 14.54.34 Nick Guest62984 is now known as logbot_ (~rockbox@giant.haxx.se) 14.55.27 Nick logbot_ is now known as logbot- (~rockbox@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 14.55.33 # grr 14.55.50 Nick logbot- is now known as logbot_ (~rockbox@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 14.56.22 Nick logbot_ is now known as logbot (~rockbox@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 14.56.26 # ahh 15.11.35 Quit lorenzo92 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 15.15.34 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 15.20.27 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@46.18.27.126) 15.26.25 Quit lorenzo92 (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0/20121120062532]) 15.27.28 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 15.28.29 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 15.31.04 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 15.37.06 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 15.38.27 Join WalkGood [0] (~4@unaffiliated/walkgood) 15.46.27 Quit amayer_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 15.52.29 Join sentriz [0] (~Senan@78.143.151.93) 15.56.17 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 15.57.48 Quit linuxstb (Read error: No route to host) 15.58.14 Join linuxstb [0] (~linuxstb@unaffiliated/linuxstb) 15.59.23 Join Prodicus [0] (~chatzilla@69.169.144.239.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net) 16.02.39 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 16.07.14 Join eckoit [0] (~ryan@50.65.10.24) 16.09.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.17.31 Quit linuxstb (Read error: No route to host) 16.17.49 Join linuxstb [0] (~linuxstb@unaffiliated/linuxstb) 16.19.38 Join amayer_ [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 16.23.20 Join SilverJohnes [0] (~2e4982fa@www.haxx.se) 16.23.47 # Someone will add me here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/Main/WikiUsersGroup ? 16.23.55 # Thanks 16.29.07 Part LinusN 16.32.43 # does haxx.se have some kind of IRC gateway, or is everyone an employee? 16.33.02 # copper: haxx.se hosts rockbox.org 16.33.09 # I know 16.33.30 # web-client 16.33.45 Join c0pper [0] (~58be2989@www.haxx.se) 16.33.50 # ah, ok 16.33.59 # I didn't see it on the Rockbox website 16.34.41 Quit c0pper (Client Quit) 16.40.43 # SilverJohnes: "SilverJohnes" doesn't look like a real name to me 16.47.31 # How do you guys manage the various Rockbox ports? Are you able to share code in common? How does that work with, say, the Android port? 16.47.52 Quit amayer_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.48.05 # surely the Android and Clip+ ports must be very different? 16.48.33 # we have a lot of #ifdefs 16.49.51 # isn't the Android port even written in a different language? 16.50.08 # I thought Android stuff was Java 16.51.45 Part eckoit 17.01.30 # You can run native code in Android, and it's actually preferred over Dalvik for DSP type stuff. cf. http://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/ndk/index.html 17.02.56 # ah, nice 17.05.13 # not so different then 17.08.38 # gevaerts well i'm using it for 13 years 17.09.29 # i'm not from english-speaking country so it is okay 17.09.47 # See #2 on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UserRegistration 17.11.54 # this is the only name i'm using in the nets 17.13.27 # well mayve you ulload latest fm preset for moscow, russia, instead of me, please? 17.14.57 # https://dl.dropbox.com/u/47341320/Moscow.fmr -> http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/FmPresetsEurope 17.15.25 # 28 november 2012 17.16.57 Join melmothX [0] (~melmoth@unaffiliated/melmothx) 17.18.22 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@213.37.219.103) 17.18.27 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 17.21.05 Quit Clear_runway (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.21.37 # looks legit and like a good improvement on the less-comprehensive and outdated one we have right now (from 2006 or earlier). We can add that for you. 17.21.51 # yay thank you 17.23.25 # bertrik: thanks for the review #357 17.23.28 # 3Gerrit review #357 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/357 : Added the screenshots for the Sansa Clip Zip manual. by Marco Pessotto (changes/57/357/1) 17.23.52 # thank you for making the screen shots 17.24.15 # and the other stuff like actually making sure the clip zip manual works, etc. :) 17.24.42 Quit SilverJohnes (Quit: bye-bye ;) 17.25.15 # The clip zip manual does actually build successfully with that patch, right? 17.25.22 # right 17.25.36 # i've been working with `make manual` all the time 17.25.52 Quit Guinness (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.27.31 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 17.30.20 Join Guinness [0] (Slayer@c-68-55-111-159.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 17.32.11 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@46.18.27.126) 17.32.49 Quit magpie (Quit: Penguin feeding time...) 17.34.31 Quit sentriz (Quit: Leaving) 17.40.50 # pamaury: as far I understood the updater.sb is really a "shell", it has many commands for example getting the nand id, read/write it and so on 17.41.17 # I still miss where the real z5upate.dat is handled, but when I get home I hopefully have also the player 17.43.09 # there is even the help command :p 17.43.42 Quit apo_ (Remote host closed the connection) 17.44.36 Join apo [0] (~apo@178-27-210-243-dynip.superkabel.de) 17.47.49 Join scorche|sh [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 17.57.34 Join GuillaumeCocatre [0] (~58be2989@www.haxx.se) 17.59.06 # Hi. Can someone add me to the WikiUsersGroup please? I'd like to add FM presets for Perpignan, France 17.59.09 # http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=2Pqmgm5j 17.59.23 # source: http://bric-a-brac.org/radio/villes/perpignan.php 17.59.26 # and tested 18.00.14 # SilverJohnes gave me the idea 18.01.45 Quit melmothX (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.02.44 # GuillaumeCocatre: done. Welcome 18.03.22 # pamaury: updater.elf is about 1,8 MB, while a default vmlinuz.bin image that I have found in the sdk is around 1,6.... 18.03.49 # cheers 18.04.15 Join amayer [0] (~yaaic@30.sub-174-252-66.myvzw.com) 18.08.25 # fm preset added 18.09.30 # we could do useful stuff with RDS and FM presets perhaps 18.09.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.13.00 # bertrik: I was thinking about an automatic station name retrival when doing a complete fm scan... 18.13.43 # unfortunately, many FM stations abuse the station name for all kinds of other information 18.13.57 # oh well right... 18.14.37 Quit GuillaumeCocatre (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 18.14.58 # do you know fmlist.org? it knows all major FM stations and I think it can even estimate the reception strength at a chosen location 18.15.54 # so, it can probably generate an FM preset list, say, by choosing the top 20 strongest stations 18.17.03 # * bertrik tries 18.18.24 Quit lorenzo92 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.20.00 Quit amayer (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 18.21.00 Join amayer_ [0] (~amayer@90.sub-174-252-67.myvzw.com) 18.22.48 # bertrik: ping 18.23.04 # pamaury: yes? 18.23.45 # You still have my x-fi 3 right ? I don't remember if I asked you if you can send it back to me in case you don't work on it. 18.24.00 Quit jnc (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.24.26 # yes I have it, and I realise I totally failed in sending it back to you 18.25.17 # Can you give me your address details again? I can send it next saturday probably 18.25.23 Quit amayer_ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 18.29.45 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 18.32.26 # bertrik: see pm 18.33.19 Join amayer [0] (~yaaic@162.sub-174-252-68.myvzw.com) 18.36.51 Join amayer_ [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 18.40.16 Join kevku [0] (x@indeed.tastes.like.everything.mm.am) 18.52.31 Quit amayer_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18.57.23 Quit ender1 (Quit: typeof(string).GetField("Empty").SetValue(null, "Empty");) 18.58.51 # fmscan.org shows a quite similar list for perpignan when choosing perpignan and dBuV > 60 18.58.58 Quit Bagder (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 18.59.46 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@178.174.211.174) 18.59.46 Quit Bagder (Changing host) 18.59.46 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 19.02.12 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@host231-168-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 19.02.31 # bertrik: link? 19.03.00 # I don't know how to get a list of frequencies for Perpignan / Pyrénées Orientales 19.03.36 # I have to click on every 'program' 19.04.11 # go to http://fmscan.org/index.php , click "Frequencies For Any Location" and follow directions, use the "export options" link to configure the minimum dBuV level 19.04.40 # It doesn't actually create an .fmr file, but I mean to say that all needed information seems to be there 19.04.43 Join ender1 [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 19.05.01 Join |akaWolf| [0] (~akaWolf@188.134.9.161) 19.06.46 # I'll update the list, thanks 19.07.51 # no, wait, please discuss with the original author first 19.07.52 Quit akaWolf (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 19.07.57 # I was just using that as an example 19.13.50 Quit amayer (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 19.16.07 Join amayer [0] (~yaaic@162.sub-174-252-68.myvzw.com) 19.22.13 # gawd, FM radio sucks 19.22.57 # three quarters of my local stations are airing ads right now 19.23.41 # where they speak really fast and try to cram as much as possible inside a 10 seconds ad 19.37.09 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@e179039043.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.48.01 Quit shamus (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 19.48.26 Join shamus [0] (~shamus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 19.59.23 Join webguest110 [0] (~5cc4651a@www.haxx.se) 20.06.14 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-32-53.dynamic.chello.pl) 20.06.54 # pamaury: ping 20.09.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.14.55 Quit webguest110 (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 20.24.40 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 20.25.17 Quit y4n (Quit: HOLY SHIT! WE'RE ALL JUST LIVING ON A GINORMOUS FUCKING SPINNING ROCK FLOATING THROUGH SPACE CIRCLING A BIG FUCKING BALL OF FIRE!!!) 20.47.11 Quit Buglouse (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.47.38 Quit amayer (Quit: Back to the real world... unfortunately) 20.48.55 Quit WalkGood (Quit: ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪) 21.01.51 Join Buglouse [0] (~Buglouse@unaffiliated/Buglouse) 21.17.23 Join sciopat [0] (~sciop@yer91-2-82-237-54-159.fbx.proxad.net) 21.20.42 Quit sciopath (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21.22.17 Join melmothX [0] (~melmoth@unaffiliated/melmothx) 21.43.33 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.43.40 Join thegeek [0] (~thegeek@2.36.34.95.customer.cdi.no) 21.43.53 # Bagder: ping 21.44.31 # Tip for saving a few kilobits per second on lossy files: apply album gain prior to encoding 21.45.01 # I gained 4 kbps / 711 MiB over 27.2 GiB 21.50.02 Join Wardo [0] (~Mirandaha@176-120-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) 21.53.42 Quit |akaWolf| (Quit: my exit) 21.55.20 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 22.06.30 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 22.07.32 # pamaury: I definitely found that the updater.sb contains a kernel image (uncompressed) 22.09.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.17.47 Join amayer_ [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 22.19.30 Quit XavierGr (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 22.22.52 Quit wodz (*.net *.split) 22.22.52 Quit lorenzo92 (*.net *.split) 22.22.52 Quit jm (*.net *.split) 22.26.41 Join Mir_ [0] (~Mir@pool-71-109-219-166.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 22.28.10 # copper, why would you do that :o 22.28.35 # to save space 22.28.39 # it's basically free 22.28.43 # why would you modify the actual data of an album 22.28.46 # that's like 22.28.48 # that's horrible :o 22.28.52 # ? 22.28.57 # LOSSY 22.29.02 # ohhhhh 22.29.07 # i read lossless :P my bad 22.29.15 # :) 22.29.29 # my FLACs are safe and sound ;) 22.29.42 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-32-53.dynamic.chello.pl) 22.29.48 # :3 22.30.58 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@host231-168-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 22.33.08 Quit Mir (*.net *.split) 22.40.20 Quit Gallomimia (Quit: I am likely going to change locations) 22.40.31 Quit Syconaut (Remote host closed the connection) 22.41.40 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5DD56EBE.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.41.40 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 22.41.40 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 22.42.24 Join Mir [0] (~Mir@pool-71-109-219-166.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) 22.42.26 Join SuperBrainAK [0] (~Andy@97-124-80-200.phnx.qwest.net) 22.42.48 # are you still in Paris pamaury? 22.42.52 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 22.43.35 # pamaury: yes got it! it's a 1MB cramfs, guess only used for the updater, OR really as a filesystem to store some basic data! 22.44.22 Quit Mir (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 22.44.35 # pamaury: http://pastebin.com/NhfnZ9t1 22.46.44 # I still don't have the device but the firmware recovery seems pretty easy 22.48.00 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 22.52.14 # and the rc script :P http://pastebin.com/J0hWSHK2 22.55.02 Quit melmothX (Quit: bau) 22.58.08 # mnt/app/start.sh -> seems they have left this could be a possible way to inject scripting without toching firmware at all 23.01.11 # pamaury: great! in the cramfs there is this z5decrypt, produces a fw.tar.gz!!!! 23.01.32 # (hope not going offtopic speaking about reversing OF here) 23.04.23 Quit crwl (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.04.46 # lebellium: yes 23.05.35 # lorenzo92: great :) 23.08.58 # lorenzo92: it would still be interesting to understand the format, we cannot rely on this z5decrypt 23.09.13 # pamaury: I'm still in Berlin but I get home in Paris end of December so if you don't find a Z5 by then, I can possibly lend you mine. I'll probably buy a 2nd Z5 since lorenzo seems highly interested by the port :D 23.09.46 # lebellium: I might have possibly found a cheap z5 but I'm still waiting for an answer, we'll see 23.09.47 # warranty-to-port is not the case, but yes, interested a lot :D 23.10.02 # pamaury: indeed, also because it's ARM executable 23.10.04 # :D 23.10.16 # before that I'll try it on my R0, who knows hihi, 23.10.28 # lebellium: but in case you find a cheap one let me know 23.10.53 Join Clear_runway [0] (~Clear_run@74.221.202.246) 23.12.42 # but yeah I'm also interested in this port and in any case I'll help as much as possible 23.13.05 # I've also found a very cheap Creative Zen V which is stmp36xx based also 23.14.30 Join crwl [0] (~crwlll@a91-156-110-12.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 23.15.05 Quit amayer_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.15.46 Join Gallomimia [0] (~Gallo@d64-180-210-223.bchsia.telus.net) 23.18.30 # pamaury: in this "recovery image" (yes it's a complete environment :O ) 23.18.43 # I found other diagnosis/test executables 23.19.13 # we have a framebuffer etc 23.19.37 Quit ender1 (Quit: The curious thing about .Net is that it allows you to use any language you want, as long as it's C#.) 23.21.55 # pamaury: found the key array ;) 23.22.49 # http://pastebin.com/p2dcxXQt 23.23.28 # I will write all the stuff on wiki + a python test script (yeah I will do it also in C ^^) 23.23.39 # what is this key used for ? 23.25.27 # to decrypt the Z5Update.dat file 23.25.44 # it has a MD5 sum inside, and then data (presumably contiguous) 23.26.08 # in there we will find the actual OF application (cramfs I guess) 23.27.01 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 23.28.59 # I don't really fully understand this init_key function...I'm taking out the "byte" numbers filling an array...possible? 23.29.36 Join Syconaut [0] (~viper@c-60fd72d5.162-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 23.30.11 # not sure, there are SUB and MOV (since I know only mips asm, but I guess one is subtract) 23.32.40 Quit Syconaut (Remote host closed the connection) 23.34.48 Join brkfstsqd [0] (~quassel@ip68-224-121-213.lv.lv.cox.net) 23.35.53 Join ender1 [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 23.37.17 Join Syconaut [0] (~viper@c-60fd72d5.162-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 23.38.32 # I guess it is a so simple XOR 23.39.53 # there is this "code" function that takes a pointer as parameter and then makes a XOR agains a "des" variable gotten from the key_init function 23.40.05 # tomorrow will understand that better :) 23.40.43 # des is a block cipher but it's far more complicated than a xor. I'll have a look tomorrow if you want 23.41.17 # really? more complicated? Do you want the z5decrypt? 23.41.32 # yeah, can you send it to me ? 23.46.00 Quit Buglouse (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 23.46.16 # sent ;) 23.47.02 # okay. Do you want to have a try or should I disassemble it ? Just to avoid duplicate work 23.47.27 # I think that is a XOR, see the code function and key_init, but I'm not really expert on this stuff hehe 23.47.48 # pamaury: if you begin now, go on ;) 23.48.09 # i will eventually tomorrow :D 23.48.24 # I'll do it tomorrow, I'm too tired right now :) But since I've reversed many decryption tools already, it shouldn't be too hard 23.49.20 # hehe good :) 23.49.30 # we will keep us informed here 23.50.13 Join Buglouse [0] (~Buglouse@unaffiliated/Buglouse) 23.50.33 # incredible how much information from the updater.sb, apparently a mess of bytes :D 23.53.26 Quit lorenzo92 (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0/20121120062532]) 23.53.39 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)