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I’d never heard language like that before, and even after it was all over, the office still smelled of ) 00.53.05 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 00.58.08 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 01.01.31 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 01.18.11 Quit the-kyle (Quit: Leaving.) 01.23.39 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@24.211.185.30) 01.26.09 Quit toffe82 (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 17.0.1/20121128204232]) 01.27.58 Join amayer [0] (~alex@72.25.51.135) 01.33.28 Join webguestfoo [0] (~4c00a96e@www.haxx.se) 01.33.30 Join Buglouse [0] (~Buglouse@unaffiliated/Buglouse) 01.35.17 # [Saint]: did you see the 9seg patch? 01.35.37 # <[Saint]> ...the wha? 01.35.46 # <[Saint]> Oh, you magnificent bastard. 01.35.51 # <[Saint]> ...nice. 01.36.14 # <[Saint]> No, I didn't, no. But I shall definitely be poking at this this afternoon. 01.37.17 # its not quite what android does, but it works quite nicely (see logs for screenshot) 01.37.31 # as soon as we come up with the display tag i'll commit it 01.39.02 # gevaerts: awake enough to form an opinion? 01.39.57 # Hm 01.40.07 # g#347 01.40.09 # I'll first have to figure out what about! 01.40.09 # 3Gerrit review #347 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/347 : skin_engine: User selectable track data display by Jonathan Gordon (changes/47/347/4) 01.40.10 # oh 01.41.45 # * [Saint] thinks that JdGordon may have passed the wrong review instance. 01.41.58 # nope... 01.42.17 # I want to push 347 but more opinions are necessary 01.42.20 # <[Saint]> Oh, you suddenly changed the course of the conversation? 01.42.26 # <[Saint]> I see. 01.42.37 # 9seg is no question :) 01.44.09 # JdGordon: I haven't really followed the discussion about this, but I'm wondering how the "user selectable" bit actually works 01.44.53 # It needs a manual change for sure... the user adds a metadata.txt file in the wps dir with specific viewports which has the text they want to display 01.45.05 # Or probably, what "metadata.txt should exist in the wps directory" means. wps/, or the theme's wps subdirectory? 01.45.21 # wps/ 01.45.27 # it is shared by all themes 01.45.27 # ok, that makes more sense 01.45.59 # http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/347/4/apps/gui/skin_engine/skin_engine.c line 312 shows the inbuilt one 01.46.19 # <[Saint]> The idea is that one file can govern multiple themes, with conditions for X lines of display. 01.46.22 # Well, except of course it won't work at all with any of my own recent themes :) 01.46.51 # yes, it cant cover every theme, but the vast majority will work :) 01.47.03 # * gevaerts nods 01.47.05 # <[Saint]> So that the user can say "If there's foo lines available to display metadata, I want it to display this. If there's bar lines, display this, baz lines, display this"...etc. 01.47.18 # but it means people who want to show different info don't need to understand a complicated .wps to modify it 01.47.36 # Yes. I think the entire idea makes sense 01.48.00 # I'm not entirely sure about the "metadata.txt" name though, not sure why 01.48.03 # <[Saint]> It's one of my better, less insane ones :) 01.48.16 # * gevaerts decides to go for the most important aspects :) 01.48.37 # <[Saint]> My initial idea was a lot simpler, JdGordon took it and rolled with it and created something more versatile than I could've dreamed up. 01.48.53 # gevaerts: please add a comment the to patch :) 01.49.47 # I'm not convinced that this "%i*" should ever be enforced. I get the "don't even try to put AA here" part, but if people *really* want the clock there, I don't think we should stop them 01.50.58 # it isnt enforced 01.51.32 # The commit message says "not yet" :) 01.51.51 # ok, that can be removed :) 01.51.54 Join Clear_runway [0] (~Clear_run@74.221.202.246) 01.52.09 # I'm open to the ui being made a bit nicer also 01.54.41 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01.57.06 # JdGordon: [Saint]: did you look into the progress bar slider thing yet? 01.57.43 # didnt you say removing the few lines just fixed it? 01.58.09 # i didnt try. ive never compiled anything for a target... 01.59.08 # it looked like the code you showed me just resized the progress bar and moved then slider to where the bar used to start 02.02.07 # is it quicker to compile a target or the simulator? 02.02.19 # * gevaerts presses "publish comments" 02.02.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.03.03 Quit Rower85 (Quit: Hmmm...) 02.03.13 # amayer: if you have the toolchain available, it's about the same 02.03.45 # ...simulator it is 02.04.11 # is there a wiki page for how to compile for a target? 02.05.15 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/HowToCompile 02.05.35 # ...when i googled it that didnt come up. but i found CrossCompiler 02.07.42 # gevaerts: thanks 02.09.08 Quit Sidney__ (Quit: Leaving) 02.11.43 Quit webguestfoo (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 02.13.30 Join XavierGr [0] (XavierGr@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 02.20.04 Quit XavierGr (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 02.24.10 # ipod mini can dual boot correct? 02.25.04 # yes 02.25.17 # JdGordon: thanks 02.38.15 # <[Saint]> amayer: If you can compile a simulator, then, compiling a target binary is essentially no different. 02.38.29 # <[Saint]> All you need to do is enter a different number during configure. 02.38.43 # <[Saint]> (assuming you have the target's toolchain, that is) 02.39.38 # <[Saint]> If you've compiled a sim, then surely you have seen the other target identifiers during configure. 02.40.06 # i dont have any tool chains 02.40.24 # first i need to make a theme that will utilize the code i am going to be testing 02.41.03 # ill just play with the simulator for now. 02.41.20 # how long does it take you guys to compile? 02.41.28 # <[Saint]> ~40 seconds 02.42.33 # <[Saint]> My builds range from between ~40-150 seconds 02.42.39 # holy smokes... it takes my old computer 4 or 5 min 02.44.02 # i have 5 different computers all running linux but their hardware is slow. 02.44.05 # (it was all free tho, stuff people were giving away) 02.44.16 # <[Saint]> With that in mind, I'm going to put on my speculation hat and say that it'll take about 30 minutes or so to compile the arm-eabi toolchain. 02.44.37 # ill save that for another night 02.44.46 # you mean compile each time? 02.44.49 # <[Saint]> I'm just guessing your targets are ARM based. 02.45.07 # yes( iPod classic, i think thats arm) 02.45.11 # <[Saint]> No, you only need to compile the toolchain once. 02.45.17 # oh ok 02.45.26 # iPod classic is ARM right? 02.45.42 # <[Saint]> I'm speculating that if a full build takes you around ~5 minutes, that compiling the toolchain will take around 30. 02.45.45 # <[Saint]> And yes, it is. 02.46.26 # amayer: do you want an account on my server which has the toolchains all running? 02.46.26 # <[Saint]> slightly off-topic, but, this should help a little: 02.46.37 # <[Saint]> "sudo apt-get install preload ccache" 02.47.22 # preload? 02.47.25 # JdGordon: sure 02.47.47 # <[Saint]> JdGordon: How did you manage to get the yp-ro toolchain compiled on a 64 bit arch? 02.47.52 # <[Saint]> *yp-r0 02.47.54 # didnt try 02.48.14 # <[Saint]> Ah, well...that's not "all the toolchains" then, is it? :P 02.50.15 # amayer: check your pm 02.51.31 # * [Saint] sobs... 02.51.43 # <[Saint]> *I* never got offered an account on your server... :-S 02.51.47 # <[Saint]> :P 02.51.58 # pretty sure you have been :) 02.52.06 # hardly a beefy server 03.22.05 Join Gallomimia [0] (~Gallo@d216-232-229-219.bchsia.telus.net) 03.49.06 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 03.51.27 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 03.53.23 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 03.55.53 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@184.76.254.130) 04.03.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.09.59 Quit [Saint] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.15.20 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.15.21 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.15.31 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.15.31 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.29.08 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 04.37.37 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@p579CC4DC.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.40.48 # does %pb center the bar if the backdrop is bigger then the progress bar? 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05.43.47 # <[Saint]> ANd the statusbar? 05.43.55 # the *themes* or wps files? 05.45.06 # <[Saint]> rockbox_failsafe.fms/sbs/wps and classic_statusbar.(grey/mono).sbs 05.45.49 # the first 3 were always there, i did rename them though, but they always existed as empty files 05.46.00 # classic_statusbar may have been pixelma_ 05.46.16 # * [Saint] is just tweaking /rockbox/wps/AUTHORS a bit. Its not up-to-date. 05.47.39 Join webguest46 [0] (~62667a0a@www.haxx.se) 05.48.07 # * [Saint] pokes pixelma 05.48.52 Quit webguest46 (Client Quit) 05.49.40 Quit SuperBrainAK (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 05.49.45 Quit user890104 (Quit: .) 05.49.51 Join webguest01 [0] (~d88d9302@www.haxx.se) 05.49.53 Quit webguest01 (Client Quit) 05.50.53 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@0.0.vps.6bez10.info) 05.50.58 # <[Saint]> Is there some fancy way I can use git to see everyone who has had their paws on a particular file since it entered the repo? 05.51.19 # <[Saint]> That would make this attribution detective work I'm doing a lot easier. 05.51.57 Quit user890104 (Client Quit) 05.52.28 # * [Saint] summons the git gurus 05.52.33 Quit eckoit (Quit: eckoit) 05.52.43 # <[Saint]> *cough* Torne *cough*... 05.53.03 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@0.0.vps.6bez10.info) 05.55.38 # <[Saint]> Nevermind, I figured it out. 05.56.50 Join akaWolf [0] (~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf) 06.03.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.35.32 # <[Saint]> Right. Done. 06.35.52 # <[Saint]> There's actually been a fairly surprising amount of fingers stuck in the Cabbie pie. 06.36.09 # <[Saint]> A lot of people never got the attribution the deserved. 06.36.32 # <[Saint]> I'll clean up and press the go button in a minute. 06.48.20 # is there a way to tell if the volume is so far down that it is off? 06.48.30 # %pv returns 0 twice 06.49.11 # 0 is full 06.49.21 # then what is "off" 06.49.28 # you need to compare against sound_min(SOUND_VOLUME) 06.49.46 # umm... how do you do that in a theme? 06.50.00 # errr 06.50.09 # is that a setting? 06.50.35 # something i can get with %St 06.52.11 # is it a flaw that %?pv returns false when volume = 0db ? 06.52.57 # you're using %pv wrong 06.53.25 # <[Saint]> Wait...just checking, are you thinking that 0db is "off", or are you aware that it is "full volume" (ie. line level)? 06.53.26 # how should i be using it? 06.53.33 # %?pv 06.53.39 # i did that 06.54.03 # <[Saint]> pastebin, you must be doing something weird. 06.54.39 # here is what i did: 06.54.41 # %?pv<%xd(Jb)|%xd(Ja)> 06.54.43 # and it shows Ja at 0%(see mute) and 0db(see loud) 06.54.54 # <[Saint]> yes, that is wrong. like JdGordon said. 06.55.11 # <[Saint]> see the line he pasted. 06.55.22 # that ... is as many conditionals as you need 06.55.35 # i only need 1 06.55.38 # well 2 06.55.58 # i want it to display Jb if mute else Ja 06.56.15 # <[Saint]> I thought you needed at least for %pv 06.56.31 # yep 06.56.57 # so would this work? 06.57.00 # %?pv<%xd(Jb)|%xd(Ja)|%xd(Ja)> 06.57.11 # one more Ja 06.57.38 # <[Saint]> %?pv<%xd(Jb)|%xd(Ja)|%xd(Ja)|%xd(Ja)> 06.57.42 # <[Saint]> oop, too late. 06.57.53 # what is all that needed for? 06.58.01 # <[Saint]> see my paste. 06.58.10 # <[Saint]> 06.59.06 # is this some special case? 06.59.08 # because i read that something like %? < | > is if else 06.59.35 # i mean ill do it that way if it works... 06.59.51 # <[Saint]> It does. 07.00.44 # <[Saint]> If you didn't provide cases for line level and above, you'll return false at anything past -1dB 07.00.48 # <[Saint]> (as you found out) 07.01.00 # no its just false at line_level 07.01.03 # true above 07.01.46 # <[Saint]> Hmmm, that's not how I'd expect that to work. Kinda interesting. But, anyway, yeah...you should provide all those cases. 07.01.51 # [Saint]: or JdGordon: can you document this in the manual. I would but i still dont think i understand 07.02.17 # <[Saint]> As far as I am aware it is. 07.02.25 # the example it gives is %?pv<0|1|2|…|N> 07.02.30 # the line i pasted was from the wiki 07.03.12 # <[Saint]> Ah. 07.04.52 # JdGordon: the line you posted makes sense now that i look back. but the example in the manual is misleading 07.09.32 # im committing a manual update now 07.12.36 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 07.12.43 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-075-177-082-185.triad.res.rr.com) 07.23.37 # [Saint]: JdGordon: g#367 07.23.39 # 3Gerrit review #367 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/367 : Manual: update %?pv description by Alex Mayer (changes/67/367/1) 07.23.49 # beat 07.23.56 # grr... yeah yeah i sawed it 07.24.09 # oh ok 07.24.22 # still no irc bot :/ 07.24.40 # no irc bot for what? 07.24.54 # oh for commits 07.25.05 # was that an open source project? 07.25.30 # <[Saint]> Yes, but, one that didn't believe in decent version control or backups. 07.25.34 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 07.25.37 # <[Saint]> so...they died pretty hard. 07.27.53 Join perrikwp_ [0] (~quassel@cpe-075-177-082-185.triad.res.rr.com) 07.30.12 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 07.31.23 # [Saint]: would it be posable to reverse engeneer one from the hooks and host it on rockbox.org? 07.31.41 # <[Saint]> Quite probably, yes. 07.32.47 # <[Saint]> There are a few other alternative services available, though. 07.33.16 # <[Saint]> No need to re-invent the wheel. It is just one of those "roundtoit' things. 07.33.37 # <[Saint]> As in, Mr. Someone needs to get around to it. :) 07.33.45 # oh ok 07.33.48 # on that note im going to bed 07.33.52 # <[Saint]> o/ 07.35.21 Part amayer 07.35.37 # <[Saint]> Does someone wanna press the go button on g#368 for me please? 07.35.39 # 3Gerrit review #368 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/368 : Update /rockbox/wps/AUTHORS and theme headers to provide correct attribution by Hayden Pearce (changes/68/368/1) 07.35.55 # <[Saint]> Nothing major, just some cosmetic stuff, and providing attribution for some missing authors. 07.37.37 # [Saint]: you're in contributors right? 07.37.41 # err.. CREDITS 07.37.43 # <[Saint]> Yep. 07.38.31 # <[Saint]> First of a bunch of changes I'm splitting out from a really messy tree. 07.39.35 # 2 comments before i push 07.39.51 # <[Saint]> Ah, bugger. Just saw it. 07.40.52 # <[Saint]> I assume one of those was the whitespace trailing error in AUTHORS 07.41.48 # <[Saint]> and a double-up author. Grr. 07.47.23 # <[Saint]> shit....what am I doing wrong? 07.48.06 # <[Saint]> fix changes, git commit --amend; git push /origin/foo/bar/baz? 07.48.29 # <[Saint]> JdGordon: ^ 07.52.50 # <[Saint]> Aha, figured it out. 07.57.53 # hmm, is my server blacklisted in the build syste,m? 08.03.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.04.42 # <[Saint]> Now, assuming the branch I was working on is finished with, and isn't fully merged...I switch back to master or and do 'git branch -D branch_to_trash'? 08.05.15 # <[Saint]> Hmmm, seems so. 08.06.31 # [Saint]: did you play with 9seg yet? 08.07.02 # <[Saint]> just cherry-picking now. 08.13.15 Join mortalis [0] (~mortalis@195.34.194.126.kalibroao.ru) 08.18.00 Join melmothX [0] (~melmoth@unaffiliated/melmothx) 08.29.57 Quit Gallomimia (Quit: Gallomimia) 08.32.09 # JdGordon: the last commit contains a typo in each wps/fms 08.32.29 # "(see /rockbox/wps/ATHORS)", the file is called AUTHORS 08.32.39 # [Saint]: ^ 08.45.57 Join ender [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.47.55 # hehe silly [Saint] 08.50.35 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 08.52.03 # JdGordon: you should have spotted it during review 08.52.17 # this you're both silly :) 08.52.28 # thus* 08.56.05 # ..|.. 09.02.38 Quit perrikwp_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09.04.43 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-075-177-082-185.triad.res.rr.com) 09.11.44 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 09.12.26 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@sestofw01.enea.se) 09.12.26 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 09.12.26 Quit Zagor (Changing host) 09.12.26 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.13.10 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 09.13.10 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 09.13.10 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 09.13.56 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@2001:638:605:4:68bf:fe0d:7152:3610) 09.14.56 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.21.17 # Zagor: FS#12786 09.21.18 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12786 3Email is down Can't send mail using Net (bugs, unconfirmed) 09.23.08 # that's odd 09.23.52 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-32-53.dynamic.chello.pl) 09.25.08 # pamaury: I commited magic constants removal work for rk27xx usb driver. Will update gerrit later. 09.25.36 # ok cool 09.26.23 # pamaury: whats the yesterday cruelty outcome? 09.27.51 # nothing, I got interrupted by real life matters, but I'm hope I can have some free time today 09.28.25 # who the hell invented real life ! 09.29.04 # mortalis: have you seen this: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,42403.msg215840.html#new ? 09.32.35 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 09.43.28 Quit bokjhv (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.43.58 Join bokjhv [0] (~Prmhfhfx@87.254.67.112) 09.59.29 Join Ward [0] (~Mirandaha@176-120-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) 09.59.52 Nick Ward is now known as Guest73118 (~Mirandaha@176-120-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) 10.03.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.05.24 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 10.08.36 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 10.11.00 Quit kevku (Quit: KVIrc 4.3.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) 10.18.37 Join Rower85 [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-90.bitnet.nu) 10.24.16 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 10.36.16 Quit bokjhv (Quit: you'll probably leave it Late ::: SO GET ON WITH IT ! http://www.ohloh.net/p/systemd) 10.37.38 Join Al-phaX [0] (~Al-phaX@87.254.67.112) 10.46.11 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.04.23 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 11.11.31 Join XavierGr [0] (XavierGr@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 11.13.10 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 11.13.18 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@141.45.176.104) 11.13.18 Quit kugel (Changing host) 11.13.18 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 11.15.01 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 11.28.26 Quit XavierGr () 11.35.49 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@2001:638:605:4:68bf:fe0d:7152:3610) 11.36.14 Quit melmothX (Read error: Operation timed out) 11.36.57 Join XavierGr [0] (XavierGr@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 11.40.21 Join melmothX [0] (~melmoth@unaffiliated/melmothx) 11.55.02 Quit Al-phaX (Quit: you'll probably leave it Late ::: SO GET ON WITH IT ! http://www.ohloh.net/p/systemd) 11.55.51 Join solarcloud [0] (~solarclou@87.254.67.112) 12.02.54 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12.03.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.13.52 Quit Prodicus (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 12.14.57 Join Topy44|2 [0] (kvirc@f049130244.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.18.10 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12.33.02 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 12.34.17 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g231120182.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.39.57 # I am afraid that e150 I got is dead for good. 12.40.43 Quit solarcloud (Quit: you'll probably leave it Late ::: SO GET ON WITH IT ! http://www.ohloh.net/p/systemd) 12.56.06 Join MistahDarcy [0] (~MistahDar@71-84-106-13.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com) 12.58.37 *** SPY: Authentication failed for Zagor 13.00.28 Nick Guest14324 is now known as logbot (~rockbox@80.67.6.50) 13.00.40 Quit melmothX (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 13.22.02 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 13.29.51 # pamaury: I updated rk27xx usb wip on gerrit. I mainly get rid of magic values and changed else if() to if() in INT_UDC(). 13.38.13 # wodz: thanks, I'll see what I can do with it 13.44.25 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@host236-59-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 13.48.44 Quit lorenzo92 (Client Quit) 13.50.09 Join sciopath [0] (~sciop@yer91-2-82-237-54-159.fbx.proxad.net) 13.52.59 Quit sciopat (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 14.02.54 Quit the-kyle (Remote host closed the connection) 14.03.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.11.10 Join amayer_ [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 14.18.46 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 14.31.14 Join solarcloud [0] (~solarclou@87.254.67.112) 14.35.58 Join Prodicus [0] (~chatzilla@69.169.144.239.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net) 14.36.47 Join boryf [0] (~7d1@www.haxx.se) 14.37.23 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@2001:470:c807:0:1532:4e5f:2ad3:4123) 14.38.37 Quit boryf (Client Quit) 14.38.44 Join boryf [0] (~7d1@www.haxx.se) 14.40.51 # Hi guys. I have 80GB ipod classic with MK8022GAA 5mm HDD. I want to upgrade to 160GB. I have found MK1634GAL HDD - also 5mm and it looks it has the same connector. Do you know if its compatible with my ipod and rockbox? 14.41.39 # I have found this: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/HardDriveReplacement#Apple but there is no MK1634GAL HDD 14.44.34 # boryf: I can't promise anything, but I'm fairly sure that will work 14.47.38 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 14.48.05 # in every forum i have found that the MK1634GAL 160GB is working only with iPod 7th gen and not with 6th gen, but that might be only software restriction in original firmware... And I don't know if its really only software restriction or there is a hardware incompatibility 14.48.57 # The 80GB version of the first Classic has a different connector 14.51.36 # Hm, or was that the 160GB one? 14.52.01 # Not sure now, but anyway, some of the old classics are different 14.52.59 # no, my iPod is only 80GB, but the hard drive is broken and 160GB is not not much more expensive than 80GB and thats the reason, why i want to upgrade 14.53.17 # http://www.appleiphoneparts.co.uk/product_images/classic6mk8022gaaharddrive.jpg http://www.unionrepair.com/images/watermarked/thumbnails/0/500/500/toshiba-mk1634gal-1.8-hdd-160gb.jpg 14.53.45 # the first one is my original HDD and the second one is 160GB whitch I want to buy 14.54.24 # http://laptopbatteryplaza.com/images/4.jpg is the one in the other classic variant. You'll notice the difference :) 14.56.06 # in your link is MK1626GCB with CE-ATA connector and 8mm thickness, but my MK8022GAA 80GB and MK1634GAL 160GB has ZIF 40 connector and 5mm thickness 14.56.16 # Yes, exactly 14.57.18 # If you have a classic that originally came with one of those (i.e. a first-gen 160GB classic), you can *not* use a MK1634GAL 14.57.33 # I suspect that that's what those forums are saying, really 14.57.41 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-32-53.dynamic.chello.pl) 15.01.47 # so you are saying that I cannot upgrade MK8022GAA 80GB to MK1634GAL 160GB even though they have same connectors and same thickness, right? 15.02.51 # No 15.02.58 # I'm saying you most probably can 15.03.28 # And that the reasons many forums are saying you can't is that there *are* first-gen classics that are different 15.03.34 # But yours isn't one of those 15.04.28 # now i understand, thank you very much 15.09.33 Quit mortalis (Quit: Leaving) 15.21.29 Join melmothX [0] (~melmoth@unaffiliated/melmothx) 15.23.10 # pamaury: with gerrit version + usb_status_event(USB_INSERTED) in CONN_INTR device seems to pass a few steps of configuration properly (up to returning bString: rockbox.org) 15.23.47 # great, so what is the difference ? the else if ? some wrong constant somewhere ? 15.23.58 # maybe both 15.24.32 # there is still something wrong as first connect doesn't trigger setup irq 15.24.48 # subsequent attempts are 'successful' 15.26.53 # still better than nothing at this point 15.27.57 # and it 'works' only with USB_STATUS_BY_EVENT. Without it I never get setup irq 15.29.21 # pamaury: When usb_drv_init() is called? 15.30.39 # wodz: when usb_core_init() is called 15.30.53 # so when usb_enable() is called 15.31.02 # (in the case of rk27xx) 15.31.43 # so on each connection detected 15.32.03 # if you want an init before that, you have to use usb_init_device() 15.32.38 # perhaps that's why for some reason the first interrupt is missed ? 15.33.27 # thats my thought 15.33.49 # you can try to properly setup the interrupts in usb_init_device() 15.34.29 # (that's actually the right way to do it if you usb status by event because the controller is not initialised before detection) 15.37.43 # lol, now I get setup irq on first connect but it doesn't get further 15.39.28 # do you tweak interrupt setup on usb_drv_init too ? that might confuse the controller 15.39.57 # I commented out udc stuff in usb_drv_init() 15.40.35 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@cpe-024-211-185-030.nc.res.rr.com) 15.41.47 # Ok, got the state where it triggers setup irq on first connect and passes a few steps. The problem is that this is fundamentally wrong :P 15.43.42 # why ? 15.45.06 # because I force the core to think it is in connect state. 15.48.10 # ok, the last two packets exchanged are SET CONFIGURATION Request and SET CONFIGURATION Response. 15.48.55 # anyway your target might have a problem here because it handles in hardware the set configuration packet iirc 15.50.44 Quit Clear_runway (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 15.50.48 Join eckoit [0] (~ryan@50.65.10.24) 15.54.53 Quit boryf (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 15.55.27 # pamaury: so setup_received() should filter it out, right? 15.55.49 # or the core needs to go through it to be in proper state? 15.56.15 # the core needs to know about set configuration to work properly because it uses it to configured the drivers (hid, ums) 15.56.23 # *configure 15.57.25 # iirc, let me check 15.58.05 # right, the drivers's init_connection() is called when set_configuration is received 15.58.45 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 16.03.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.03.58 # commenting out usb_drv_send(EP_CONTROL, NULL, 0) in request_handler_device() for the USB_REQ_SET_CONFIGURATION case doesn't change anything 16.04.52 # the question is: does the core received the set configuration or not ? 16.05.00 # *receive 16.06.18 # oh, in did 16.06.48 # anyway I updated gerrit to the current state which does something at least 16.07.46 # awesome 16.09.31 # nop, core doesn't know about set configuration :-/ 16.10.58 # DEV_INFO bit 7 is set though so the hardware handled it 16.11.12 # and no interrupt of any sort is triggered for it ? 16.11.23 # no that I know 16.14.14 # I only see two possibilities: poll this bit in a thread / a timeout (say: poll config bit x ms after last get descriptor setup) OR call init_connection() at another time, either by fix the usbstack to handle this case 16.17.26 # we could setup tick task with first setup packet to poll this bit and remove the task when config is finished 16.17.44 # ee remove the taks when this bit is set I mean 16.18.42 # actually we would have to do something more involved: check this bit on every interrupt and use a task to poll but yeah that's the idea 16.19.09 # in any case we will have to modify the usbstack to notify about it 16.20.38 # simplest way would be to have a #define USB_DRV_HAS_HARDWARE_SET_CONFIGURATION and in this case the handling of the set_configuration request doesn't trigger any usb_drv_* call so that the driver can post a fake setup request to notify the usbstack 16.22.28 # pamaury: I don't get first part about checking in interrupt. Could you explain? 16.23.21 Join kevku [0] (x@2001:470:28:773::3) 16.26.07 # when you enter the interrupt, you check if the config bit has changed, if so then you cancel the poll task (if running) and post a fake set_config packet to the usbstack. The actually reason is simple: if you post a set configuration to the usbstack it will usb_drv_cancel_all_transfers(). Pick an example: host sends set_configuration and then a request X (whatever). If by chance your polling code doesn't notice the set_config early enough, the 16.26.08 # core will notice the X, send it to the usbstack, which will do some transfers, and then your polling task notice the set_config, notify the usbstack which usb_drv_cancel_all_transfers() and potentially breaks request X 16.27.07 # not to mention the fact that you potentially cannot handle request X because your drivers have not been initialised 16.30.42 Join Gallomimia [0] (~Gallo@d216-232-229-219.bchsia.telus.net) 16.35.53 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 16.48.09 Quit melmothX (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 17.06.32 Join melmothX [0] (~melmoth@unaffiliated/melmothx) 17.07.15 Join WalkGood [0] (~4@unaffiliated/walkgood) 17.07.41 Join sciopat [0] (~sciop@yer91-2-82-237-54-159.fbx.proxad.net) 17.10.11 Quit sciopath (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 17.13.26 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 17.13.26 Quit Zagor (Changing host) 17.13.26 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 17.13.44 Join Zagor__ [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 17.13.45 Join Zagor_ [0] (~bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 17.13.45 Quit Zagor_ (Changing host) 17.13.45 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 17.16.55 Quit ender (Quit: I strap on the body armor, which feels tough enough, but closes with Velcro strips. I know this is state-of-the-art gear, but I'd feel more confident if it wasn't held together with the same stuff they use to fasten kids' sneakers. -- Richard Kadrey: Sa) 17.19.09 Part eckoit 17.21.40 Join ender [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 17.28.57 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 17.32.52 # saratoga: I think the AMS codec cannot detect a line-out being connected, but we're pretty sure about how it detects a dock on e200v2 and the fuze, through GPIO B5/DBOP bit 9 17.37.01 Quit Zagor__ (Quit: Leaving) 17.37.07 Quit Zagor (Quit: Leaving) 17.50.16 Quit WalkGood () 17.51.00 Quit Guest73118 (Quit: Blarglarg) 17.58.20 Quit Zagor_ (Quit: Leaving) 18.03.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.03.24 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.08.51 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 18.09.35 Join saratoga [0] (123e0c9c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.12.156) 18.09.55 # bertrik: on the fuzev2 its not known how to detect those pins since they're evidently not on GPIO 18.10.41 # i'm curious about how exactly they're read 18.19.30 # saratoga: i must have that somewhere 18.20.08 # i'll look at it if you find it, but i'm terrible at reverse engineering 18.24.35 Quit bertrik (Read error: Operation timed out) 18.24.43 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.213.36) 18.26.14 Join krabador [0] (~darkham@host151-121-dynamic.252-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 18.26.37 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 18.50.08 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@50.4.240.19) 18.50.08 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 18.50.08 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 18.51.39 # saratoga: for AMSv2 18.51.43 # ? 18.55.39 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@213.37.219.103.dyn.user.ono.com) 18.55.58 Join zaphee [0] (~user@2a01:e35:2e82:4050:449b:4ede:34ff:8422) 19.34.47 Join Guest24006 [0] (~Mirandaha@176-120-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) 19.40.32 # funman: yeah 19.40.44 # thanks 19.45.09 Quit pretty_function (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 19.46.59 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 19.47.34 Part MistahDarcy ("Leaving") 19.54.15 Join kevku [0] (x@2001:470:28:773::3) 20.03.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.33.34 Quit markun (Read error: Operation timed out) 20.33.42 Join markun [0] (~markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 20.35.20 Quit akaWolf (Quit: my exit) 20.36.29 Join SuperBrainAK [0] (~Andy@97-124-80-200.phnx.qwest.net) 20.49.57 Quit y4n (Quit: Assumption is the mother of all fuckups) 20.57.49 Quit Prodicus (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20.58.58 Quit amiconn (Quit: No Ping reply in 64 seconds.) 20.59.14 Join amiconn [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 21.11.41 Quit Jack87 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 21.14.58 Join sakax [0] (~sakax@d8D862498.access.telenet.be) 21.21.13 Quit LinusN (Quit: disconnecting from stoned server.) 21.21.27 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 21.57.25 Part krabador ("Sto andando via") 22.01.10 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 22.01.10 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 22.01.10 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 22.01.21 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@2001:610:76a:0:2928:c299:7145:88f3) 22.01.21 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 22.01.21 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 22.03.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.06.34 # pamaury: you need Qt and libusb. That's it IIRC. 22.07.30 # ok, I noticed that we have many duplicate of md5 implementation and probably others things too 22.07.30 Join eckoit [0] (~ryan@50.65.10.24) 22.08.26 # Rockbox Utility uses the md5 functions available in Qt :) 22.08.41 # though some of our own libs could duplicate such things of course 22.08.53 # yes but the utils to make the firmware image use their own 22.09.10 # "our own lib" ;-) 22.09.15 # s/lib/libs/ 22.09.42 # I've never cared too much about all those mk* and *patcher 22.09.56 # though I was considering some changes in *patcher a bit ago 22.09.59 Part eckoit 22.10.05 # but my free time is just too limited these days 22.10.23 # yeah, that's not a real problem, it works pretty well as it is now 22.10.24 # * pamaury has two new players \\o/ 22.10.29 # I think we need our own unified set of functions like md5sum. In fact, I feel so strongly about that that I think we need *three* of those! 22.11.19 # of course! 22.11.36 # one thing I want to do since long is to de-duplicate all those bin2c implementations 22.11.51 # since that actually bothers me for some unknown reason ;-) 22.21.03 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 22.21.55 Quit pixelma (Quit: No Ping reply in 120 seconds.) 22.22.15 Join pixelma [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 22.33.48 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 22.37.13 Join Prodicus [0] (~chatzilla@69.169.144.239.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net) 22.45.59 # if anyone knows php can you check out these? 22.46.01 # http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/358/ 22.46.03 # http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/361/ 23.02.20 Part LinusN 23.04.00 Quit melmothX (Quit: bau) 23.04.08 # amayer_: i will get to them, sorry 23.04.12 # i mean, if someone else can look as well that's fine 23.05.06 # Torne: thanks, the one is just comments, the other is a little more in depth 23.05.16 Part amayer_ 23.08.00 Join Jack87|Away [0] (Jack87@nasadmin/admin/jack87) 23.08.06 Nick Jack87|Away is now known as Jack87 (Jack87@nasadmin/admin/jack87) 23.15.22 Quit Gallomimia (Read error: No route to host) 23.15.59 Join Gallomimia [0] (~Gallo@d216-232-229-219.bchsia.telus.net) 23.36.19 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 23.49.21 # saratoga: you got my PM ? 23.50.52 Quit ender (Quit: Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something. -- Robert A. Heinlein) 23.54.54 # PMs work with the web interface?