--- Log for 29.12.112 Server: card.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 24 days and 23 hours ago 00.00.03 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Vamoose!) 00.15.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.19.36 Join amayer [0] (~yaaic@h70.58.21.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) 00.25.35 Quit pystar89 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 00.26.05 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.30.05 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@184.76.254.130) 00.31.41 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.33.38 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.13.05 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 18.0/20121219074241]) 01.13.51 Quit thomasjfox (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 01.19.53 Quit shamus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.20.06 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 01.28.19 Quit Wardo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.45.27 Quit nateloaf (Quit: Leaving.) 01.47.23 Quit ender` (Quit: At least most of the dead had been cleared away now, though it took weeks. The Necropolis furnaces ran full-time, and a lot of restaurants boasted a Soylent Green special on their menus, for the more discerning palates. -- Simon R. Green: Hell to Pay) 01.53.32 Quit brkfstsqd (Remote host closed the connection) 01.56.02 Quit XavierGr (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 02.15.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.17.08 Join CookieJar [0] (~CookieJar@wnklmb0121w-ad03-64-36.dynamic.mtsallstream.net) 02.30.01 Join SuperBrainAK [0] (~Andy@97-124-80-200.phnx.qwest.net) 02.42.10 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 02.44.17 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 02.48.59 Join saratoga [0] (47e22765@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.226.39.101) 02.49.24 # pamaury: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,42510.msg216252/topicseen.html#msg216252 02.56.30 # saratoga: thanks for notifying me, I've just fixed it 03.00.17 # <[Saint]> "Rockbox's Official Catboy" 03.00.26 # <[Saint]> ...good to know, I guess. 03.01.22 Quit Rower85 (Quit: Hmmm...) 03.02.53 Join brkfstsqd [0] (~quassel@108-81-18-58.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) 03.03.26 Join Cinos [0] (Cinos@c617a456.ipv4.mtbnc.us) 03.03.44 # I'm trying to install rockbox on a Sansa e250R 03.04.26 # * [Saint] guesses that's a question disguised as a vague statement. 03.04.35 # probably 03.04.48 # Anyway, I'm following the guide but it isn't working 03.06.01 # <[Saint]> http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200RInstallation 03.06.06 # I can't get it into "manufacturer mode" 03.06.08 # I am following that guide 03.06.25 # When I go to hold and hold down select, it just goes into the firmware as normal 03.06.35 # *enable hold 03.06.37 # hold/lock 03.06.51 # <[Saint]> Is the hold switch on? 03.06.54 # Yes 03.07.37 # Is it supposed to do anything different than it normally does? 03.07.41 # Because it looks the same. 03.07.46 # <[Saint]> Well, I've only done this once personally...but, it _shouldn't_ be complicated. IIRC, it is basically: Download the driver, engage hold, and hold "select" while plugging USB. 03.08.04 # <[Saint]> It will (read: should) then ask for a driver, point it to the one downloaded. 03.08.17 # It isn't doing anything 03.08.23 # it goes to the normal "Connected" screen/adnimation 03.08.26 # animation* 03.08.36 # <[Saint]> "If Windows does not ask for a driver, it means that it has installed one automatically and you must follow these steps before continuing: (For Windows XP, other versions may vary slightly) 03.08.36 # <[Saint]> Right-click on My Computer, select Properties, go to the Hardware tab, and enter Device Manager. 03.08.36 # <[Saint]> Under Universal Serial Bus controllers, right-click USB Mass Storage Device (or something similar) and select Update Driver. 03.08.36 DBUG Enqueued KICK [Saint] 03.08.36 # <[Saint]> Select "No, not this time", then "Install from a list or specific location", and then "Search for the best driver in these locations" and click the "Include this location in the search" box. Now use the Browse button select the location of the drivers and click OK." 03.09.04 # Do I have to install the driver before I try to go into manufacturer mode? 03.09.57 # <[Saint]> No. 03.10.15 # Well, it's not working. The select button is the button with the light around it, right? 03.10.18 # <[Saint]> Remove the driver associated with the device currently and repeat the procedure. 03.10.26 # Okay then. 03.10.31 # <[Saint]> That section I pasted is the relevant part. 03.12.33 # So this is what I do 03.13.04 # Uninstall driver, unplug MP3 player, put player into lock, hold down select, and 03.13.08 # plug it in 03.13.41 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 03.14.28 # <[Saint]> And you're not getting a prompt to install any driver? 03.14.37 # <[Saint]> Is this Vista, or & or something? 03.14.44 # <[Saint]> s/&/7/ 03.14.45 # it is 7 03.14.56 # And it is just going to the normal connected screen 03.15.04 # and 7 is "installing driver" 03.15.22 # <[Saint]> Right, , this _might_ be because 7 dislikes unsigned drivers. 03.15.24 # i think it'll try to go into manufacturer mode even if you don't have the driver installed 03.15.45 # Well it's not 03.16.13 # doing something wrong probably 03.16.14 # The select button is the large button with the light around it, right? 03.17.30 # <[Saint]> The large round one? Yes. 03.17.36 # Then I don't see what is wrong 03.18.01 # I put it into lock mode, hold down the select button, and plug it in 03.18.16 # and it just starts up normally 03.18.17 # <[Saint]> Unfortunately, I've only done this once, on a friends device. But, I don't recall it being overly difficult...I only have the manual to go by, and vague memories. 03.18.43 # ._. 03.18.44 # <[Saint]> If it isn't even prompting you to install a driver, then I'm not sure...you could try forcing it to update the driver manually. 03.19.03 # What should be prompting me to install a driver 03.19.08 # The computer, right? 03.19.21 # <[Saint]> You'll need to do whatever it is you need to do with your (probably crippled) installation of Windows and enable installation of unsigned drivers too probably. 03.19.31 # <[Saint]> Yes, the computer. 03.19.39 # All it says is "installing drivers" 03.19.48 # I could try to install the driver manually 03.19.52 # as you said 03.19.56 # I will try that. 03.20.09 # <[Saint]> Which means it's making a decision for you, and you need to uninstall that driver, then force it to install the one you want it to use. 03.20.29 # <[Saint]> Windows is fun! :) 03.21.23 # <[Saint]> If you have a Linux based machine or virtual machine handy, it is a lot easier (IMO). 03.22.33 # if you're getting the normal firmware thats not going to help much it hink 03.22.44 # if you do the buttons right you end up with a blank screen and just the blue LED on 03.23.51 # I do have a linux based machine 03.23.54 # I will brb 03.23.57 # to boot into it 03.29.04 # aaaaaaaaaaaaand I'm back 03.29.07 # on irssi 03.30.43 # so now what 03.35.04 # I will try the guide :3 03.36.50 # I got my new rockbox ipod off ebay today .. but when i turned it on it had 2000+ songs on it. But then i scanned it again and it only had one albumn on it .. is there anyway to see the old database, and thereby see what songs *were* on it .. I'm a no0b, so plz be patient with me. 03.37.48 # [ERR] E200R device not found. 03.37.49 # [ERR] Ensure your E200R is in manufacturing mode and run e200rpatcher again. 03.37.52 # :( 03.38.14 # [Saint]: I'm not sure what is wrong 03.41.29 # <[Saint]> Nor am I sorry bud, unfortunately, it isn't very common hardware. 03.42.16 # <[Saint]> solarcloud_3scrn: No, there isn't. 03.42.20 # :( 03.42.27 # So I guess I'm not putting rockbox on this 03.43.01 # <[Saint]> The act of forcing the Database to re-parse means you've recreated the database, so, ...no, you can't find out what was there prior. 03.44.10 # you need to get the e200r into manufacturing mode before you can do anything on the PC 03.44.19 # no sense trying to run software that needs manufacturing mode if you aren't in it 03.44.36 # <[Saint]> solarcloud_3scrn: There's a good chance the seller removed a lot of audio from the device and didn't re-init the database 03.44.57 Join SuperBrainAK_ [0] (~Andy@97-124-95-108.phnx.qwest.net) 03.45.41 # Yeah, thought so .. such a pity, 'cos I don't know any of the good songs/albumns to look for on Spotify now ... :-( 03.45.53 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14222.0 03.45.57 # I read that too 03.46.58 Quit SuperBrainAK (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 03.47.20 # <[Saint]> Until you tried the unix-based procedure, I was thinking the problem is/was that Windows was applying some generic driver for it. 03.47.36 # i think you can get it to boot into manufacturing mode with a usb charger attached 03.47.42 # <[Saint]> ...and I still kinda do, but then, that wouldn't hold true across different OSes...so, I have no idea. 03.47.50 # i don't think the computer is actually doing anything at that point 03.48.25 # i think its boot rom just checks the values on some pins and if they're right it branches into a different part of the ROM 03.49.57 # <[Saint]> Cinos: possibly silly question - have you tried (a) different USB port(s) or cable(s)? 03.51.37 # [Saint]: does the mp3 player need to be on before I plug it in? 03.51.50 # <[Saint]> Yes. 03.52.32 # Well it wasn't 03.52.42 # But I tried even with it plugged in, and it won't work 04.00.29 # ._. 04.02.19 # <[Saint]> So, let me be ultra clear: The device is on - an unplugged; you engage the hold switch; you hold select *wilst & during* plugging the USB cable; ...nothing? 04.02.31 # yes 04.03.01 # I thought maybe it just wasn't going to make a difference at the MP3 player, but the patch doesn't work 04.03.23 # And yes, my computer is detecting it 04.03.51 # <[Saint]> I have no idea, but the fact that several others have run into your exact situation leads me to believe that the installation method obviously isn't fool proof. 04.04.15 # <[Saint]> However, your experience with the unix based system leads me to think the hardware may be defective. 04.04.39 # I'm not too sure 04.04.45 # It's not like the button isn't working 04.04.58 # and I am able to access the files on the device 04.06.03 # [ERR] E200R device not found. 04.06.03 # [ERR] Ensure your E200R is in manufacturing mode and run e200rpatcher again. 04.06.07 # Hmm 04.06.28 # <[Saint]> There's two issues that make this slightly more difficult: 1 - It is an uncommon piece of hardware; 2 - Pretty much none of us use Windows. 04.07.07 # I'm using Linux right now 04.07.46 # <[Saint]> That's one of the reasons that I think the hardware may be defective in some fshion. That should "Just Work (TM)" 04.07.54 # <[Saint]> *fashion 04.08.17 # I wonder if someone here might know what the issue is 04.08.25 # I guess I could stick around 04.08.41 # <[Saint]> If you can, try alternate ports and/or cables. 04.08.54 # <[Saint]> It sounds silly, but USB ports are unpredictable. 04.08.55 # I tried 3 different ports 04.09.01 # I don't have any other cables though 04.09.18 # <[Saint]> (especially those on the front of a machine for ) 04.09.20 # What happened was I lost my old mp3 player, which I had rockbox working on already 04.09.32 # But that was a clip zip 04.09.53 # <[Saint]> You did fairly well to find an E200R, I must say. 04.10.10 # It was my sister's old mp3 player 04.10.27 # yea when mine died i have to deal with an old ipod :/ 04.10.29 # It's actually an e250R, but that fits into the e200R series 04.10.42 # <[Saint]> I may be in a slightly more remote locale than yourself, dunno, but I coukldn't find one in my locality. 04.11.08 # I live in a fairly-large city, lol. 04.11.24 # <[Saint]> Probably bigger than my country ;) 04.11.32 # How many people live in your country? 04.11.52 # <[Saint]> ...sliding off-topic: 3.8Million 04.12.02 # only 2.7 million in my city 04.12.12 # almost i guess :) 04.12.41 Quit Topy44|2 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.12.44 Quit amayer (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04.12.54 Join Topy44|2 [0] (kvirc@f048205122.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.13.44 # <[Saint]> It does slightly trouble me that I can see at least two other people facing the exact same issue, but without the hardware right here in front of me I can't really do anything other than speculate. 04.14.13 Quit shamus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.14.29 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 04.14.36 # <[Saint]> Are you *certain* it is the 250*R*? 04.15.01 # <[Saint]> (Some refurbs have Rhapsody cases, but aren't actually Rhapsody versions, and vice-versa) 04.15.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.15.47 # <[Saint]> I don't even think there is any way to be certain other than viewing the logic board. 04.15.55 # <[Saint]> ...but someone else needs to confirm that. 04.16.47 # That's what it says on the back 04.17.10 # model: e250R 04.17.16 # Also, the firmware calls it a "sansa" 04.17.23 # Not sure what that proves though 04.17.24 # <[Saint]> Right, but that is essentially meaningless. 04.17.35 # <[Saint]> As I said, refurbs can have the cases mixed and matched. 04.17.46 # <[Saint]> ...that's what I'm thinking may have happened. 04.18.03 # Well I wonder how I would do this if that was the case 04.19.05 # <[Saint]> I can't remember if the original firmware actually differentiates between the E200 and E200R models or not. 04.19.15 # all I have is a firmware version 04.19.17 # <[Saint]> ...maybe it does, I can't remember. 04.19.18 # V03.01.10A 04.20.53 # Oh, it's showing up as 04.20.55 # E200P 04.21.01 # On my computer 04.21.19 # <[Saint]> I'm not sure that is an R model...going by the FW version. 04.21.25 # <[Saint]> I think it's an E200V2 04.21.55 # I will look into that 04.23.08 # <[Saint]> Yep, pretty certain it's an E200V2 04.23.24 # <[Saint]> ...and likely a refurb, hence the miss-matched casing. 04.23.25 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@213.37.219.103.dyn.user.ono.com) 04.24.07 # <[Saint]> A quick check would be to run Rockbox Utility and allow it to auto-detect the device. 04.24.23 # I tried that, but it couldn't even find a device 04.24.27 # then again this was back on windows 04.28.41 # <[Saint]> Ummmm...hmmm, how to verify this without opening the device...hmmm, think Hayden, ...think. 04.28.51 # <[Saint]> Aha! 04.29.18 # <[Saint]> Switch (or, make sure it is in) to MSC mode and run the Sansa Firmware Updater? 04.29.19 # <[Saint]> http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/156 04.29.20 Join amayer [0] (~yaaic@70.15.156.170.res-cmts.eph2.ptd.net) 04.29.57 # I was just going to use the rockbox installer 04.30.03 # I'm already downloading it 04.30.41 # <[Saint]> I'm /fairly/ certain this is an E200V2, though. 04.30.51 # <[Saint]> Not positive, but fairly certain. 04.31.37 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 04.31.38 # <[Saint]> Ah, here we go: 04.31.42 # <[Saint]> "- If the Version is V01.xx.xxx, you have an e200v1. Go to the e200v1 firmware download thread 04.31.42 # <[Saint]> - If the Version is V03.xx.xxx, you have an e200v2. Go to the e200v2 firmware download thread 04.31.42 # <[Saint]> - If the Rhapsody and PlayforSure options (instead of MSC/MTP) appear under Mode, you have an e200R. Go to the e200R firmware download " 04.32.08 # <[Saint]> Cinos: ^ 04.32.18 # Yeah, my sister said she originally had a refurb 04.32.50 # <[Saint]> the section I just pasted should allow you to confirm the model. 04.33.13 # But then it broke and she got a new one, but kept the back or something 04.33.16 # So the model numbe ris wrong 04.33.21 # number is wrong* 04.33.29 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@p5B321D45.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.34.04 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 04.34.04 # * [Saint] feels like a modern day (and slightly shit) Sherlock Holmes 04.36.17 # <[Saint]> The good news is, if I'm right, there is absolutely no pissing around required for the "non-Rhapsody" models. 04.36.30 # <[Saint]> Run RbUtil, click a few things, done. 04.36.47 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04.39.05 # it says I need a copy of the 04.39.15 # firmware, which I am downloading 04.40.08 # <[Saint]> Well, it must be a V2 then. 04.40.27 # <[Saint]> It should tell you it isn't capable of installing on a Rhapsody model iirc. 04.40.50 # I put in the firmware and it is doing something 04.40.52 # So it should work 04.41.27 # * [Saint] now feels slightly better about not being able to fix someone elses problem in another thread. 04.41.30 # <[Saint]> :) 04.41.42 # <[Saint]> 1 out of 2 is OK with me. 04.42.59 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 04.45.12 # =3 04.47.23 Join Topy44|3 [0] (kvirc@f048205122.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.47.23 Quit Topy44|2 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.49.05 Join Topy44|2 [0] (kvirc@f048205122.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.49.05 Quit Topy44|3 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.49.57 # Other than it taking forever to download every single file, it's going well 04.51.21 # <[Saint]> I might go back into that thread you found and necro-post a response there. 04.51.45 # <[Saint]> "Make damn sure you have a Rhapsody device, DO NOT believe the case!" ;) 04.52.29 # <[Saint]> this mess was pertly my fault, as I forgot about the issue with refurb models, ...and I apologize for that. 04.52.38 # <[Saint]> *partl 04.52.42 # <[Saint]> +y 04.53.46 # <[Saint]> You weren't to know, ...I should've asked, and I didn't. I'm sorry. 04.54.41 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.54.42 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.54.42 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.54.43 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.54.44 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.54.47 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.22.06 # Yay, it works 05.22.28 Part eckoit 05.25.11 Quit shamus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.25.39 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 05.26.00 # I wonder if I'll ever find my old clip zip though 05.29.41 # Cinos, well done ! .. It's 6am ere now .. so i need to get some 5-2-1 R :: 5hrs sleep, 2 meals, 1 shower .. 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* [Saint] wonders why the Classic port doesn't have: Settings - General - System - Disk - Spindown 15.33.08 Join zaphee [0] (~user@2a01:e35:2e82:4050:99c8:1ef7:9600:eee6) 15.44.43 # <[Saint]> Hum, are there any color targets that don't support album art? 15.45.56 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 15.46.00 Join psilonux [0] (~psilonux@2001:470:1f15:10f6:4455:8fd8:c49a:171c) 15.59.55 Quit thomasjfox (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 16.06.21 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 16.09.20 Join sentriz [0] (~Senan@78.143.151.93) 16.15.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.24.47 # <[Saint]> TheSeven: is the Classic supposed to support FM or not? 16.25.43 # <[Saint]> /firmware/export/config/ipod6g.h is confusing me. 16.28.48 # there's no internal FM 16.29.19 # but of course some dock radio modules which feed the line in port and are controlled via dock serial 16.29.53 # no idea if we support those, probably not because we don't have accessory support on the classic at all yet 16.30.23 # <[Saint]> and are they not governed by CONFIG_TUNER IPOD_REMOTE_TUNER? 16.30.43 # absolutely no idea 16.30.48 # <[Saint]> as they are disabled, but HAVE_FMRADIO_IN isn't. 16.31.25 Quit shamus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.31.32 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 16.31.41 # no idea what those defines actually mean 16.31.47 # <[Saint]> If I were to take a shot in the dark I would guess HAVE_FMRADIO_IN should be disabled also. 16.33.58 # <[Saint]> ...alternatively, maybe I should try enabling IPOD_REMOTE_TUNER and dig out my remote. 16.34.53 # <[Saint]> ah, nope. That won't work. 16.35.46 # <[Saint]> No IAP, so..yeah. I'll do a proper check but it seems like HAVE_FMRADIO_IN should be disabled too. 16.48.38 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@host97-25-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 16.54.59 Quit eckoit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 17.00.55 Join SuperBrainAK [0] (~Andy@97-124-95-108.phnx.qwest.net) 17.01.13 Quit shamus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.01.47 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 17.02.57 Quit lorenzo92 (Remote host closed the connection) 17.09.32 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E42496.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.14.24 Quit ender` (Quit: Sleep, n An inadequate substitute for caffeine) 17.16.54 Quit sentriz (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17.26.40 Quit psilonux (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 17.50.03 Join pystar89 [0] (~pystar89@ip-37-24-1-174.unitymediagroup.de) 18.15.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.18.57 Quit shamus (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 18.19.28 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 18.29.53 Quit shamus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.30.15 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 18.32.32 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.215.167) 18.34.28 # <[Saint]> Ok, I've been thinking about something, but I'm not sure how to do it or even if it's worth doing. All the iPod6G have 550mAh batteries except for the 160GB "thick" model, and at present the battery capacity is just set to 550mAh for all. It occured to me that you could check if the disk was a MK1634GAL and make an accurate guess that it's the "thick" model and set the right max capacity. 18.36.57 # The MK1634GAL is the CE-ATA one? 18.37.31 # <[Saint]> I believe so, yes. 18.37.41 # Right 18.37.49 # <[Saint]> ...which should mean the smarts to check for it are already there. yes? 18.37.57 # That seems to make sense 18.38.13 # Probably, yes 18.39.53 # The ceata variable in storage_ata-ipod6g.c presumably is what you're after 18.41.45 Join eckoit [0] (~ryan@50.65.10.24) 18.42.14 Join zchs [0] (~zchs@ool-ad034fd8.dyn.optonline.net) 18.50.32 # <[Saint]> Oh, there's one other thing I keep thinking of at inopportune times and forgetting about. 18.51.03 # <[Saint]> Is there a reason we don't set Channel Configuration to 'custom' if the Stereo Width is edited? 18.51.33 # <[Saint]> I seem to recall there _is_ a reason, but I couldn't recall and/or find what that was. 19.09.36 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 19.11.23 # <[Saint]> dammit, I *hate* the viewing angle of my monitors :-S 19.12.04 Quit zchs (Quit: Leaving) 19.13.00 # <[Saint]> the two don't quite fit side-by-side nicely without angling them in towards each other slightly or having one kinda straight and the other angled a bit more. 19.13.25 # <[Saint]> the color is either slightly weird in both of them, or quite weird in one. depeinding where my head is. 19.13.31 Join zchs [0] (~zchs@ool-ad034fd8.dyn.optonline.net) 19.14.43 Join sentriz [0] (~Senan@78.143.151.93) 19.15.13 Quit zchs (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.23.01 Join zchs [0] (~zchs@ool-ad034fd8.dyn.optonline.net) 19.25.39 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 19.29.40 Join dfkt|n [0] (~dfkt@85.Red-213-97-154.staticIP.rima-tde.net) 19.29.40 Quit dfkt|n (Changing host) 19.29.40 Join dfkt|n [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 19.40.47 Quit scorche (Disconnected by services) 19.40.52 Join scorche` [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 19.41.13 Join Wardo [0] (~Mirandaha@176-120-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) 19.41.23 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 19.43.57 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@2a01:e35:243f:8460:221:6aff:feaa:cdaa) 19.43.57 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 19.43.57 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 19.45.09 Quit pretty_function (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 19.46.30 # [Saint]: if you want to make default battery capacity dependent on ce-ata, all you'd need to do is export ceata from storage_ata-ipod6g.c with a function (e.g. is_ceata()), add a file somewhere (unless you find an appropriate one) similar to firmware/target/arm/ipod/video/battery-video.c (with similar contents), and update apps/settings_list.c (line 861) to add the classic to the #if defined(IPOD_VIDEO) line 19.47.05 # All easy copy and paste work :) 19.49.43 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.214.34) 19.58.06 Quit pretty_function (Remote host closed the connection) 20.01.47 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@213.37.219.103.dyn.user.ono.com) 20.15.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.27.20 Join psilonux [0] (~psilonux@2001:470:1f15:10f6:445f:4514:f193:5af7) 20.35.36 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 20.37.50 Join saratoga [0] (47e22765@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.226.39.101) 20.38.12 # [Saint]: i think the lack of a disk menu on the 6G is an oversight 20.38.21 # i made a build a couple weeks ago with it enabled and it compiled fine 20.38.23 # http://mit.edu/mgg6/www/rockbox.7z 20.38.26 # if you want to try it out 20.39.35 Quit psilonux (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.41.40 Join lebellium_ [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 20.43.15 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 20.43.21 Nick lebellium_ is now known as lebellium (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 20.43.52 Part eckoit 20.48.47 Quit sentriz (Quit: Leaving) 20.57.38 # <[Saint]> saratoga: seems to work fine. 21.00.15 # we should probably commit it 21.00.31 # <[Saint]> I was just going to ask if you had it on gerrit. 21.01.21 # <[Saint]> what is holding back g339 and g340? 21.01.24 # Gerrit review #339 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/339 : Fix FS#12391 : Memory corruption on PP502x after commit_discard_idcache() by Boris Gjenero (changes/39/339/1) 21.01.51 # <[Saint]> from the comments, it seems like both are able to be pushed. 21.01.55 # its a one line fix, just add the have ata line to the config file 21.03.03 # <[Saint]> HAVE_ATA_DMA? 21.03.09 # <[Saint]> ...surely not. 21.04.31 # HAVE_DISK_STORAGE? 21.04.48 # yeah i think thats it 21.05.15 # <[Saint]> man...there's some damn confusingly named defines. 21.07.00 # Some, probably. I'd say most are fine though 21.12.11 Quit nateloaf (Quit: Leaving.) 21.13.48 Join Topy44 [0] (kvirc@f048068103.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.14.58 # <[Saint]> Does someone else want to push it directly, or do I bother pushing to gerrit? 21.16.12 Quit lebellium (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.17.25 Join MichalZielinski [0] (~michal_zi@aerh217.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 21.17.38 # Hi 21.21.09 # could you add me to wikiusersgroup? I'd like to add a file to the Polish radio stations. At the beginning of the station for the capital, and later as the wish list will expand :) 21.21.18 Part MichalZielinski 21.21.35 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 21.23.02 # * [Saint] added g376 21.23.56 # <[Saint]> Oh, hum...he left. 21.24.12 # <[Saint]> Do I bother adding him still, or wait 'til if/when he comes back? 21.24.57 # just add him 21.26.11 Join MichalZielinski [0] (~michal_zi@aerh217.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 21.26.33 # pushed 21.26.44 # also, the recoder builds seemed to have failed due to binary size 21.26.45 # i'm back ;) 21.27.15 # <[Saint]> adding you now. 21.27.20 # <[Saint]> one sec. 21.27.51 # Thank you 21.28.00 # <[Saint]> Done. 21.28.10 # <[Saint]> Welcome. 21.30.27 # I am an electronic and I repair players, if you want, I can find notes, diagrams or info about the hardware. 21.40.36 Quit XavierGr () 21.49.23 # [Saint]: any idea if the raspberry pi with it's debian version will boot up with ssh and DHCP working? i don't have a usb keyboard handy 21.50.21 # <[Saint]> NFI sorry. I have no idea of the base packages. 22.01.01 Part MichalZielinski 22.15.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.17.49 # saratoga, half-serious with this question: Would it be possible even in theory to access the Sansa's memory in very small bursts timed in such a way to make the noise "pulse" at an inaudibly high frequency? 22.18.06 # soap: yes probably 22.18.21 # i tried something similiar on the e200v1 years ago, i could shift the pitch about 22.18.46 # although to shift it above 15khz you would have to make sure that your reads were shorter then 1/15000 of a second 22.18.50 # no idea if that is possible or not 22.19.45 # would be a hilariously glorious hack, just to get around low-end hardware noise. 22.22.28 # i tried it by just putting asm("NOP"); lines in the loop that copied back data from the SD card IIRC 22.22.35 # to make it run slower 22.26.01 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 22.28.22 Quit |akaWolf| (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 22.28.46 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 22.39.34 Join zzzrod [0] (~rodd@201.82.166.10) 22.39.58 # Any idea whether rockbox will ever be ported to Ipod Classic? 22.43.33 Quit the-kyle (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 22.44.19 Join nateloaf [0] (~nwild@S0106bcaec5c3e90e.wp.shawcable.net) 22.51.49 # It has been 22.53.01 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodClassicPort 22.53.42 # But be sure to update Rockbox after installed emcore, the version it ships with is horribly out of date 22.54.43 # AlexP: ...and IIRC the current build has broken USB? 22.55.17 # Possibly, I don't know 22.55.22 Quit dfkt|n (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 22.55.32 # But we get many people in here asking about stuff that is fine know but broken in whatever emcore ships 22.55.38 # s/know/now/ 22.55.56 # cool, thanks AlexP 22.56.37 # The USB problems in general are really annoying 22.56.38 # AlexP: give me a known-working (with focus on USB) rockbox build, and I'll link it in the emcore instructions or possibly package a new emcore installer 22.56.57 # I can't, I don't have a classic 22.57.09 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@host171-109-dynamic.44-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 22.57.11 Quit y4n (Quit: Today is the perfect day for a perfect day.) 22.57.17 # And why focus on USB specifically over other broken things? 22.57.31 # because USB is mandantory to even get music onto it 22.57.32 # is there a way to revert a rockbox install? 22.57.42 # or even unpack the full rockbox build 22.57.52 # TheSeven: I keep forgetting no dual boot either 22.57.58 # rubbish 22.58.09 # zzzrod: yes, you can always go back 22.58.22 # cool 22.58.53 # TheSeven: Isn't there a bootloader USB mode either? 22.59.09 # AlexP: there's no rockbox bootloader yet 22.59.19 # I meant emcore 22.59.25 # and emcore doesn't have USB mass storage 23.00.08 # there's UMSboot, which can be used to boot something via USB, but that's just a ramdisk 23.00.22 # only way to mount the hdd through usb mass storage is through rockbox 23.00.43 # TheSeven Have you tried rockbox on the classic? 23.00.47 # Not ideal 23.00.59 # other ways could probably be hacked in, but then again we could fix the rockbox usb problem in the first place 23.01.03 # zzzrod: He is the primary developer for it 23.01.07 # touché 23.01.21 # TheSeven: Yes, that would of course be ideal :) 23.01.29 # along with fixing dualboot :) 23.01.38 # And of course it isn't just the classic 23.01.45 # for USB I mean 23.01.49 # fixing dualboot would at the same time fix apple's disk mode 23.02.28 # I'm not sure if we're observing the same problem on other devices as well, or if that's something different 23.02.40 # Yeah, no idea 23.02.44 # Oh well :) 23.02.57 # if we could reproduce this on jtaggable hardware, that would be a big step forward 23.02.59 # i will give it a try 23.03.32 # rockbox really needs some more serious debugging infrastructure :) 23.03.41 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@cpe-024-211-185-030.nc.res.rr.com) 23.04.47 # oh, while we're at it: we should also figure out what broke the nano2g post mortem memory dumper and fix that, and at the same time port it over to the classic 23.05.03 # Best get cracking! :P 23.05.20 # debugging a broken debuggger is a bit of a PITA though 23.06.25 # especially in this handcrafted assembly beast 23.07.54 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.09.07 # http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=blob;f=firmware/target/arm/s5l8700/postmortemstub.S;h=d0874c418b010ef95ac75a2f56f78f77348df799;hb=HEAD 23.09.23 # kind of a bitch, that is... 23.10.04 # i bet it's getting stuck in the loop starting at line 62 23.20.26 # which would mean that there is some hardware state which we aren't resetting that is screwed up 23.21.16 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p4FC75756.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.46.58 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)