--- Log for 08.01.113 Server: card.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 5 days ago 00.13.51 Quit sentriz (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.19.54 Nick uwe__ is now known as uwe_ (~uwe_@dslb-092-075-063-053.pools.arcor-ip.net) 00.20.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.21.50 Quit thomasjfox (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 00.22.44 Quit Wardo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.25.38 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.26.57 Quit Rower85 (Quit: Hmmm...) 00.27.50 Quit bertrik_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.41.15 Quit DonAman (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 00.44.00 Join DonAman [0] (~DocHollid@unaffiliated/phifedoc) 00.49.10 Join lebellium_ [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 00.49.52 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.50.05 Nick lebellium_ is now known as lebellium (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 00.50.09 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00.59.37 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.03.08 Quit DonAman (Quit: The Sleep of Reason brings forth monsters) 01.05.46 Quit ender` (Quit: "Why are we hiding from the police dad?" 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We use emacs.") 01.07.14 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 18.0/20121231071231]) 01.09.38 Join SuperBrainAK [0] (~Andy@71-36-165-101.phnx.qwest.net) 01.11.45 Join DonAman [0] (~DocHollid@unaffiliated/phifedoc) 01.14.32 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 01.14.50 Quit bluebrother (Read error: Operation timed out) 01.16.04 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g224238182.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.17.12 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 02.18.17 Join krabador [0] (~darkham@95.237.42.65) 02.20.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.28.55 Join amayer [0] (~alex@h180.39.25.72.ip.windstream.net) 02.33.42 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 02.50.50 # mumb 03.05.28 # so im trying to just compile a binary for my ipod classic. when i run make and it checks for dependecies it gets addons, images, codecs and a bunch of stuff that i dont think actually goes in the binary. is there a way to "make" for just the binary 03.08.54 # make bin 03.10.09 # *facepalm* 03.10.13 # so if i run "make bin; make zip" it will just output rockbox.zip with only a bin? 03.10.26 # that seems way simpler then the answer i was expecting 03.30.32 Quit amayer (Quit: amayer) 03.31.18 Join amayer [0] (~alex@h180.39.25.72.ip.windstream.net) 04.06.02 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@p579CC427.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.09.17 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.10.15 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 04.20.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.22.37 # [Saint]:ping 04.24.16 # [Saint]: are you free to try some code? 04.36.36 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 04.38.01 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 04.39.11 # if i was going to change the way a slider behaved should i add a tag to enable this behavior or should i just make the change to the code? 04.39.13 # the thing i would like to do is make the slider stay inbounds of the progress bar backdrop without shrinking the backdrop or progress bar 04.43.34 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.43.35 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.43.35 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.43.35 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.43.37 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.43.37 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.45.16 Join zamboni [0] (~bottledwa@unaffiliated/zamboni) 04.46.20 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 04.47.37 Quit t3hsilentone (Quit: Leaving.) 05.18.29 Join Rower85 [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-177.bitnet.nu) 05.27.32 # amayer: probably the best thing would be to deprecate the currnet bar tags and add new ones which are easier to use 05.34.57 # JdGordon: the tag now is "slider" 05.35.12 # could i just add something like "ibslider" 05.38.22 # no, i mean completly redo the %pb() tag 05.41.27 Quit shamus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.41.52 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 05.43.25 # oh... 05.53.42 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 05.53.51 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.57.42 # can i have my rockbox directory linked to gerrit and github so i can push/pull from both? 05.57.59 # (not at the same time, im not into the kinky stuff) 05.58.16 # who's github? 05.58.25 # the histories will not be the same 05.58.27 # so, no 05.58.37 # i would like to make a github 05.58.45 # github account 05.59.25 # hmm... so i would need to manage 2 rockbox directories in order to post changes to github to work on with other people? 06.06.28 Part amayer 06.18.18 Quit Dex__ () 06.19.22 Join eckoit [0] (~ryan@50.65.10.24) 06.20.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.20.26 Quit scorche` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.37.07 Join t3hsilentone [0] (~pc@pool-74-98-200-43.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net) 06.38.27 Quit SuperBrainAK (Quit: pbly going to sleep /_\) 06.42.44 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 06.44.41 Part eckoit 07.06.14 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 07.06.14 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 07.06.16 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 07.06.49 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 07.06.49 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 07.06.51 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 07.07.11 Join t3hsilentone1 [0] (~pc@pool-74-98-200-43.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net) 07.14.48 Quit t3hsilentone (*.net *.split) 07.14.48 Quit fs-bluebot (*.net *.split) 07.14.48 Quit moben (*.net *.split) 07.14.48 Quit ender| (*.net *.split) 07.14.55 Quit t3hsilentone1 (Quit: Leaving.) 07.19.03 Join moben [0] (~moben@exherbo/developer/moben) 07.20.00 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g224238182.adsl.alicedsl.de) 07.22.51 Join ender| [0] (whatever@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 07.30.14 Quit the-kyle (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07.40.45 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@cpe-024-211-185-030.nc.res.rr.com) 07.42.52 # look at this cutie http://i.imgur.com/JY5F1.jpg 07.45.23 Quit the-kyle (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 07.45.53 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@93.115.84.198) 07.50.47 Quit the-kyle (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 07.51.40 # /sb end 08.08.49 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@cpe-024-211-185-030.nc.res.rr.com) 08.09.23 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 08.10.28 Join akaWolf [0] (~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf) 08.12.54 # p 08.20.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.31.17 Join ender` [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.44.47 Join t3hsilentone [0] (~pc@pool-74-98-200-43.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net) 09.00.23 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 09.00.52 Quit zamboni () 09.19.22 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.19.43 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@sestofw01.enea.se) 09.19.43 Quit Zagor (Changing host) 09.19.43 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.21.54 Quit t3hsilentone (Quit: Leaving.) 09.24.13 Join t3hsilentone [0] (~pc@pool-74-98-200-43.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net) 09.26.20 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 09.36.39 Join kevku [0] (x@2001:470:dcc6:0:69:69:69:69) 09.41.40 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 09.43.45 Quit y4n (Client Quit) 09.49.11 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 10.13.25 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@2001:638:605:4:45d0:3047:c273:c34f) 10.20.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.44.27 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11.19.10 Join Provel_ [0] (~Provel@75-132-18-44.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 11.22.12 Quit Provel (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 11.24.11 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 11.32.38 Join kevku [0] (x@2a01:d0:ffff:34a::2) 11.41.56 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.58.34 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 12.20.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.21.47 Join bebna [0] (~a.fasold@94.101.33.114) 12.22.00 Quit bebna (Client Quit) 13.13.09 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 13.49.31 Join bebna [0] (~a.fasold@94.101.33.114) 14.20.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.22.01 Join amayer_ [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 14.25.35 Join maruk [0] (~papier@titanium.v6.sdv.fr) 14.28.44 Quit shamus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.29.06 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 14.29.39 # can someone merge this? 14.29.42 # http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/358/ 14.30.16 # amayer_: presumably scorche will do it when he updates the site? 14.31.09 # oh 14.31.15 # scorche said someone else must approve. it is live on the site right now(has been for a day or two) 14.31.23 # right, but i already approved it 14.31.38 # done, anyway 14.31.38 # soo... how do i merge it then? 14.31.58 # the submit button is only turned on for committers, currently 14.32.23 # sorry this took so long to get done 14.32.35 # but, we really don't habe mcuh php knowledge between us all :) 14.35.33 # I understand that. this is a C based project(rockbox). which is why I try to help with the themesite(I know more about php then C) 14.36.13 # I have some great ideas i would like to implement in rockbox. but there were some things with the themesite i would like to have fixed first. 14.37.16 # Torne: speaking of things to fix. you commented on the private captcha key thing. what is that? should that not be public knowledge? 14.40.48 # the clue is in the name :) 14.40.59 # private keys are not generally supposed to be public knowledge, no ;) 14.41.54 # ...is there a way we can take it out of the GIT repo easaly? 14.41.57 # or how should we handle it? 14.42.07 # in this case i think the result is that someone can take our private key and use it to access the recaptcha api under our account, which would include, say, issuing a very large number of queries so that our account gets disabled for abuse 14.42.16 # or similar 14.43.39 # the right thing to do would be to get a new API key and not check it into git (just keep it in a local file on the server) 14.43.46 # and delete the old key 14.43.52 # it's not super important 14.44.06 # (in this particular instance) 14.44.27 # but in general disclosing your keys to use other people's APIs is a very bad idea as it may let people exploit you, or destroy your data, or similar :) 14.45.28 # how about using gitignore to hide a file A and a post clone hook to generate file A by generating new api key? 14.45.48 # no 14.45.55 # the API key has to be created manually 14.46.01 # it only needs to be done once per domain 14.46.07 # as long as you don't accidentally publish it :) 14.46.33 # but, yes, the normal way is to have something like secrets.inc or similar which is .gitignore'd 14.46.42 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 14.46.45 # and then maybe a template file for it checked in as secrets.inc.tmpl 14.46.51 # which can be copied and edited by the site admin on install 14.46.54 # ahh, i thought u generate this api keys on per user basis per script 14.47.02 # no, there is just one key for the website 14.47.10 # ok 14.47.20 # it's the key to authenticate our site to the recaptcha server 14.47.36 # generally webapps have more than one secret 14.47.53 # so, you normally end up with something like this anyway 14.48.08 # e.g. XSRF-prevention keys, or HMAC cookie signing keys 14.48.46 # we use special repos for that 14.49.01 # and "export" the secret file on deploy 14.49.21 # right, but we don't need to do anything so complicated 14.50.02 # if you're using a key for encrypted storage, or for something that needs to be shared across servers, it's worth checking it in somewhere private for safety 14.50.07 # but this can just be regenerated if it's lost 14.50.31 # yeah, I simply misread you and thought your hiding something like a oauth key from your web-app 14.51.32 # like in, oauth key from you generated 14.52.43 # btw 14.53.06 # did somone ever use from you guys have used the -S flag of git commit? 14.53.35 # we don't use signed-off-by, no 14.54.50 # i thought one time about using it to sign the release tag, but it seams to be overkill anyway 14.55.05 # oh, you mean git tag -S 14.55.10 # commits are not signed in git 14.55.29 # signed-off-by means something different (that someone approves of this commit, used by the linux kernel primarily to address copyright) 14.55.55 # we don't distribute any of our binaries signed either, so there's not really much point in signing the release tags 14.56.08 # we use -s in an inconsistent way i think 14.56.10 # and we don't have any keyring infrastructure for anyone to have real confidence that the key used is correc 14.56.31 # also security is not a concern at all for rockbox code 14.56.41 # this is explicited somewhere on the wiki i think 14.57.01 # * Torne shrugs 14.57.05 # it just hasn't come up as something anyone cares about 14.57.19 # we could distribute signed artifacts, but there's not a lot of reason to bother. 14.57.23 # well there's an 'official' statement that we don't care 14.57.41 # and it just makes releases more complicated and fiddly 14.57.50 # it might change since we run on android & al though 14.58.05 # Well, we have yet to actually solve the problem of signing android builds 14.58.16 # currently people sign their own with keys that their SDKs generated for them 14.58.28 # no i meant something else 14.58.41 # nobody's gonna gain root access to my sansa clip against my will 14.58.51 # ah 14.58.55 # but if someone gains access to my phone because i run rockbox on it it's a different story 14.59.05 # i don't think that's a real concern either 14.59.16 # android's security model makes this considerably less likely 14.59.31 # "I hacked your mp3 player!" XD 14.59.33 # and if you are concerned about this in relation to rockbox, i'd be more concerned about it in relation to other apps you have installed hat are far bigger targets 14.59.36 # :) 14.59.48 # true but it should still be kept in mind anyway 14.59.58 # android is not a permission for buffer overflows 15.00.25 # anyway i can't find that statement that we didn't care about programming securely 15.00.27 # no, I saw last night this flag after I misspelled --amend 15.00.40 # and was asking if anyone was using it 15.01.59 # bebna: you are confusing differnet things, i think 15.02.04 # commits are not signed 15.02.13 # there is an option -s (lowercase) to git commit, which is nothing to do with signing 15.02.30 # it just adds a textual line "Signed-Off-By: Your Name " 15.02.34 # to the commit message. 15.02.42 # which some projects use for review or IP management purposes 15.02.44 # but we don't use 15.03.08 # git tag -s creates a signed tag, which is different :) 15.04.13 # we also don't use that 15.04.31 # I wonder if anyone tried building our codebase with clang? 15.04.31 # (our release tags are annotated tags, but not signed) 15.07.03 # wodz: clang still has no cross-compile support, does it? 15.07.36 # still might be interesting to do an sdl build, of course 15.09.02 # Zagor: clang is cross-compiler by design. The thing is that integrated assembler is lacking. 15.09.09 # Torne: hmm, I swear I read yesterday something with pgp in git commit. But I can't find it on this machine. I don't think I used git tag yesterday. I probably should stop commiting that late in the night anyways.... 15.09.27 # wodz: I know it is. but last I checked it still didn't support it... 15.09.52 # Zagor: What you mean? 15.11.00 # clang compiles sim main binary (with tons of warrnings), building codecs fails. 15.12.22 # clang 3.0 that is 15.12.52 # http://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=4127 15.17.15 # Zagor: the bug is about undocumented/weird/whatever interface to this. -ccc-host-triple, -ccc-gcc-name and so on 15.17.50 # It is possible to cross compile with clang but you need to guess magic set of params 15.18.21 # ok 15.22.35 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15.23.20 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 15.32.16 # bebna: not signing commits is a deliberate choice in git's design, it's too expensive to bother to verify them 15.33.19 # Torne: yeah like I said, it looked like overkill 15.34.29 # Torne: and if really would need it, I also could sign a specific file from the repo 15.39.38 Part LinusN 15.57.34 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 16.04.33 Join kevku [0] (x@2001:470:dcc6:0:69:69:69:69) 16.20.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.43.19 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.215.109) 16.58.05 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 16.58.05 Quit Zagor (Changing host) 16.58.05 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 17.40.04 Quit bebna (Quit: Leaving.) 17.43.00 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 17.47.31 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 17.47.31 Quit n1s (Changing host) 17.47.31 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 17.53.40 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 19.16.07 Join sentriz [0] (~Senan@78.143.151.93) 19.24.45 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 19.29.04 Join dynion [0] (~52a896aa@www.haxx.se) 19.29.32 # [saint]... you were apple classic fanboy right? 19.32.42 # <--- iPod Classic fanboi #2 19.34.21 Join psilonux [0] (~psilonux@2001:470:1f15:10f6:d429:3fce:fb1f:22f8) 19.34.45 # copper... you might be able to help me as well, in that case... 19.35.01 # what's your question? 19.35.07 # how can you run rockbox on ipod classic, while it is not officially supported 19.35.12 # or better 19.35.17 # i do understand how you run it 19.35.21 # but is it any stable? 19.35.41 # and is it installable with the normal installer, or do i have to do it manually 19.36.13 Quit sentriz (Quit: Leaving) 19.36.24 # you must install emCORE, a bootloader http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation 19.36.36 # then install http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-ipod6g.zip 19.36.53 # the installer doesn't work on the Classic 19.36.53 # and will it run stable, after that? 19.37.19 # rockbox runs well on the Classic, save for USB transfers that can freeze or crash 19.37.30 # and a lot of classics break down, is this because of faulty software or the hdd? 19.37.43 # I don't know that lots of Classic break 19.38.01 # software would not be at fault though 19.38.05 # and last but not least... on which versions of the classic does it run? 19.38.10 # at worst, you can reformat and restore either firmware 19.38.22 # because there are a lot, and i dont know how to determine which i have to do wit 19.38.26 # the classic is the model from 2009 and beyond 19.38.57 # former iPods aren't called "Classic", but "Video", "Photo" and "3rd gen" etc… 19.39.18 # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipod_classic 19.39.51 # what are the pro's of upgrading it with an ssd? 19.40.04 # except for the reduced weight and power consumption off course 19.40.05 # instant file access (no lag) 19.40.14 # does it lag a lot otherwise? 19.40.25 # depends on filesize, from what I can tell 19.40.36 # with lossy codecs, it's acceptable IMO 19.40.45 # and with FLAC only? 19.40.46 # :P 19.40.50 # slightly annoying with full-on FLAC 19.40.57 # you can compromise with LossyFLAC 19.41.14 # http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Lossywav 19.41.16 # i think 7mb a song is lossy flac? 19.41.29 # filesize alone doesn't tell me anything 19.41.38 # what does? 19.42.09 # this for instance http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=97746&view=findpost&p=813393 19.42.19 # but you likely don't have lossyflacs 19.42.37 # it's too confidential 19.43.01 # ok...:) 19.43.16 # my lossyFLACs average at 440 kbps 19.43.25 # they're half the size of the original flacs 19.43.38 # yet they're transparent, with no chance of any artifacts 19.43.49 # I love the concept :) 19.43.58 # i like flac too 19.44.08 # it's easy... and foobar runs it in a great way 19.44.35 # ok 19.44.37 Join zamboni [0] (~bottledwa@unaffiliated/zamboni) 19.44.39 # so... 19.44.44 # any ipod classic 19.44.49 # semi-easy install 19.44.55 # might be laggy 19.44.57 # are you sure you have a Classic? 19.45.01 # runs great quality audio 19.45.04 # the former iPods are supported by the installer 19.45.07 # i still have to buy one 19.45.10 # :P 19.45.12 # oh, ok 19.45.27 # i've got a sony nwz-a828 now 19.45.44 # but as i hear everyone, a rockbox player is way, way better 19.45.46 # I highly recommend lossyFLAC if your collection is bigger than 160 GB and if you absolutely don't want to use regular lossy codecs 19.46.13 # it's 90 gb right now 19.46.18 # 90% mp3 19.46.22 # 10% flac 19.46.35 # that's ecause my mp3 player doesn't use flac 19.47.32 Quit psilonux (Quit: Leaving) 19.47.58 # note that you can't have both the original firmware and rockbox on the Classic, it's either one or the other 19.48.06 # but you can revert to either whenever you want 19.48.41 # well 19.48.45 # dont worry about that 19.48.48 # i despise apple 19.48.55 # i would love to see apple go down 19.49.01 # it should be a holidy 19.49.02 # don't buy an iPod then ;) 19.49.04 # holiday* 19.49.09 # Not the place for it here wither 19.49.10 # getting a bit offtopic now... 19.49.12 # *either 19.49.36 # well actually i do want an ipod, just to put rockbox on it, and have a great player, while it is not an apple 19.49.40 # and laught at everyone 19.50.04 # 2 very big pro's i would say 19.50.14 # people will watch your iPod in horror and shout "nooooo, what did you do to your iPod???!" 19.50.32 # uhu, and i will say i have improved it to a very decent player 19.50.46 # as, dont quote me in this case, their build quality is excellent 19.51.04 # but second hand their prices of mp3 players are quite low 19.51.09 # ... 19.51.11 # I dropped mine on concrete, it survived 19.51.13 # and the build quality remains good 19.51.24 Quit dynion (Quit: CGI:IRC) 19.51.27 # #rockbox-community is over there -------> 19.51.33 Join dynion [0] (~52a896aa@www.haxx.se) 19.51.41 # #rockbox-community is over there -------> 19.51.42 # god i hate this internet irc client... 19.51.59 # why is it off topic... it's about the quality of a player... 19.52.04 # anyway, i will go there then 19.52.31 # dynion: this channel isnt for discussion quality of a player - it is for discussing Rockbox 19.53.35 # ah ok... i missed that... i thought about how rockbox changes players and the quality it gives the players 19.53.42 # thank for the correction 19.55.11 Quit pretty_function (Remote host closed the connection) 19.59.13 Join [Saint_] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 19.59.33 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.00.18 Quit amayer_ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20.03.05 Join amayer_ [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 20.07.26 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet-math.org) 20.20.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.23.32 Join SuperBrainAK [0] (~Andy@71-36-165-101.phnx.qwest.net) 20.23.44 # fyi, I've heard of like 10 cases of failing ipod hard drives so far 20.24.14 # that's not very encouraging 20.24.16 # it turned out that in most cases people had installed rockbox because the apple firmware had started acting up 20.24.37 # so these drives apparently aren't the most reliable, but software can't really do anything to break them 20.25.16 # well, I've had filesystem corruption after Rockbox crashed during a USB transfer 20.25.19 # i have one of those buggers myself (even though that already arrived in that broken condition, I got it as a donation because of that) 20.25.41 # that can happen, but wouldn't lead to the kind of physical hdd problems that I was referring to 20.25.46 # right 20.26.27 Quit ender` (Quit: Eagles may soar, but weasels are seldom sucked into jet engines.) 20.27.00 Join ender` [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 20.45.46 Quit y4n (Quit: 6,000,000 ways to die — choose one.) 21.01.07 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-32-53.dynamic.chello.pl) 21.01.59 # Trying to build sim or sdlapp on x86 with clang it fails with this: http://pastie.org/5650038 21.05.50 Join krabador [0] (~darkham@host28-35-dynamic.59-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 21.27.57 Quit Rower85 (Quit: Hmmm...) 21.28.17 # wodz: are the other filters ok? 21.38.13 # perhaps it's the add that's only used for the highest order that's the problem, i'm not that good at x86 asm though 21.39.35 # n1s: thats the first it chokes on 21.48.54 Quit krabador (Read error: Operation timed out) 21.58.29 # wodz: ah i think i see it, the "Matching digit constraints" used for the inputs match v1 with res and v2 with t and res and t are ints while v1 and v2 are int16_t* 22.02.08 # thats how I understood this error, yes 22.02.25 # seems like a compiler bug to me but as i said i'm not too good at x86 asm 22.03.08 Join krabador [0] (~darkham@host158-182-dynamic.36-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 22.03.26 # Compiling with clang for arm hits known bug of unresolved references to __eabi_* mem functions. 22.04.19 # which version did you use? 22.05.52 # 3.0 but it seems it is not fixed still 22.06.00 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Heading out.) 22.06.13 Quit akaWolf (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 22.09.02 # ha, it compiled after defining missing wrappers 22.18.00 Quit thomasjfox (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 22.20.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.36.33 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 22.41.51 Join DasBub [0] (~mr_ill@bas4-kingston08-1177945009.dsl.bell.ca) 22.44.36 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.05.58 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 23.28.55 Join Highlander [0] (~Connor_Ma@lns-sfr-5-48-199-158.dsl.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 23.31.48 Quit Highlander (Client Quit) 23.35.17 Quit scorche (Disconnected by services) 23.35.20 Join scorche` [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 23.39.35 # Any devs here? 23.39.36 Quit amayer_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 23.41.29 # DasBub: just ask 23.42.21 # Is there an existing feature to read the cid off of an sd card? 23.43.48 # I've read through the faqs and searched the forums, but I may be stupid 23.44.06 # on a rockbox'ed device ? 23.44.32 # you can go in the debug menu > drive/storage info (or something like that) and iirc correctly it's shown 23.44.37 # ya. I have a Sansa Clip, but I wondered if it was a general feature 23.45.40 # it's on all devices which have microsd support yes 23.47.32 # Debug > View disk info 23.47.35 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 23.48.12 # ohhhhhh, I saw that but I think I got tripped up. It's displaying hex and I was expecting decimal 23.48.14 # derp 23.48.17 # thanks :) 23.50.04 # it shows the fields of the CID already interpreted, it's doesn't show the raw hexadecimal CID 23.50.08 Quit krabador (Read error: Operation timed out) 23.50.49 # is there a way to display the full cid? with a plugin, perhaps? 23.52.29 # why do you want to do that ? Appart from modifying the source code I don't think so, I'm not sure plugins have access to the disk info though I can check 23.53.06 # no they can't apparently 23.54.50 # Well I'm trying to find an alternate way to may goldcards for changing roms on android phones. You need to know the sd card's cid for that, but all of my card readers are USB and don't give the actual number 23.54.59 # s/may/my 23.55.21 # der, s/may/make 23.56.04 # I thought you can insert the card in an android phone and then have an android app read the csd and the cid 23.56.18 # indeed you can. if you have another android phone lying around :) 23.57.40 Quit SuperBrainAK (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23.57.49 # then if you can compile rockbox that's easy 23.58.07 # rockbox is a bit weird with reading the cid and csd as I remember, storing it as a bunch of 32-bit values instead of a simple byte array 23.58.23 # orly