--- Log for 22.01.113 Server: pratchett.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: Guest87001 Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 5 days and 4 hours ago 00.01.49 Nick punman is now known as funman (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 00.03.11 Quit Wardo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.05.24 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 00.07.57 Quit bertrik_ (Remote host closed the connection) 00.11.46 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 00.14.40 Quit Buglouse (Read error: Operation timed out) 00.22.18 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 00.33.43 Join zaphee [0] (~user@ede67-2-82-232-36-5.fbx.proxad.net) 00.35.50 Join Buglouse [0] (~Buglouse@unaffiliated/Buglouse) 00.46.45 Quit Naked (Remote host closed the connection) 00.53.29 Quit nateloaf (Quit: Leaving.) 01.18.02 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01.19.40 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 01.19.45 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 01.21.54 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 01.23.12 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g224236090.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.31.47 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 19.0/20130116072953]) 01.43.04 Quit zaphee (Quit: Leaving.) 01.52.29 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Quit) 01.52.47 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 01.53.35 # nice password [Saint] 01.54.08 # <[Saint]> shit that was me ms saint by accient how do you get rid of it 01.54.31 # you cant :) 01.54.38 # its in the unlogged channel so ou're fine 01.54.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.54.40 # <[Saint]> oh shit 01.54.58 # <[Saint]> ok kool thanks 01.55.47 Quit [Saint] (Client Quit) 01.56.23 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 01.57.37 Nick [Saint] is now known as [Saint_] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 01.57.40 Nick [Saint_] is now known as [Saint] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 01.57.42 Quit [Saint] (Disconnected by services) 01.58.02 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 02.00.01 Quit [Saint] (Client Quit) 02.01.23 Quit Buglouse (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.03.25 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 02.07.15 Join krabador [0] (~root@host222-178-dynamic.56-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 02.27.44 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Quit) 02.30.35 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 02.44.29 Join webguest90 [0] (~4355b277@www.haxx.se) 02.44.47 # whats with the sanza fuze+ recording 02.45.13 # ? 02.45.19 # does it work 02.45.20 # ? 02.45.37 # anyone home? 02.46.30 Quit webguest90 (Remote host closed the connection) 02.48.24 # * pamaury wonders if people know how to read, it's written on the wiki: not implemented ! 03.03.45 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 03.10.24 Join Buglouse [0] (~Buglouse@unaffiliated/Buglouse) 03.18.35 Quit tchan (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 03.18.54 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 03.36.10 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 03.47.09 Quit Buglouse (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 03.54.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.11.04 Join Buglouse [0] (~Buglouse@unaffiliated/Buglouse) 04.19.26 Join mt_ [0] (~quassel@41.233.8.126) 04.19.48 Quit mt (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 04.27.41 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.27.41 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.27.41 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.27.41 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.27.43 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.27.48 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.34.10 Join mt [0] (~quassel@41.233.8.126) 04.34.11 Quit mt (Changing host) 04.34.11 Join mt [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/mt) 04.34.27 Quit mt_ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 04.36.04 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~briehl@p5B323F43.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.37.59 Part scorche|sh 04.39.22 Join scorche|sh [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 04.39.29 Quit TheSphinX_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.40.57 Join akaWolf [0] (~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf) 04.45.05 Join Granitas [0] (~4e3df2db@www.haxx.se) 04.46.34 # hey, I've just installed RockBox on my sansa clip + and I've been missing one feature - Favorites. Is it possible to put certain songs on your favorite or "ToGo" lists ? 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Both take x, y as arguments 08.32.55 # the first is cell x,y not pixel 08.33.16 # yes, the lcd_put* api is super awesomeTM and bloated :) 08.37.24 # ah you mean the first offset is in chars? 08.37.40 # yeah. 08.37.43 # ok 08.37.59 # the way the X coord works with non-fixed-width fonts is maybe odd :) 08.38.18 # why lcd_puts() doesn't interpret '\n' btw? 08.39.14 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 08.40.24 Quit the-kyle (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 08.42.21 Join Barahir_ [0] (~Barahir@fb08schindler24.anorg.chemie.uni-giessen.de) 08.43.11 Quit Jack87 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 08.43.11 Quit amithkk (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 08.43.11 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 08.46.33 Join Jack87 [0] (Jack87@nasadmin/admin/jack87) 08.47.55 Join ender` [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.49.29 # wodz: how should it? 08.50.10 # at least strip 08.51.27 # hmm maybe not but it is weird that passing string with '\n' gives funny artifacts on screen 08.54.35 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 08.56.52 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@sestofw01.enea.se) 08.56.53 Quit Zagor (Changing host) 08.56.53 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.08.14 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.09.26 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@cpe-024-211-185-030.nc.res.rr.com) 09.09.48 Quit Buglouse (Read error: Operation timed out) 09.11.14 Quit the-kyle (Remote host closed the connection) 09.17.02 # wodz: if this is for your stdio porting thing, you really should completly reimplement puts() more than just passing to lcd_puts()... (i.e for line wrapping/scrolling and line scrollback) 09.19.05 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@cpe-024-211-185-030.nc.res.rr.com) 09.21.47 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@p5B322A51.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.23.37 # <[Saint]> JdGordon: that failing theme...have a play with changing the identifier of the failing hunk, interesting results ensue. 09.24.12 # i didnt get very far with the debugging last night, i'll try again tonight 09.24.25 # which identifier? 09.24.27 # <[Saint]> this is weird man... 09.24.54 # <[Saint]> %?bc<%t(1.0)%xd(Da);%t(1.0)%xd(Db)|%xd(Dc)> <-- fails 09.24.57 # <[Saint]> %?bc<...0)%xd(Da);%t(1.0)%xd(Db)|%xd(Dc)> 09.24.57 # <[Saint]> ^ 'Expected argument separator' Here 09.25.12 # <[Saint]> %?bc<...0)%xd(Ea);%t(1.0)%xd(Eb)|%xd(Ec)> 09.25.17 # <[Saint]> parses fine. 09.25.26 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 09.25.34 # what the shnitzel? 09.25.59 # <[Saint]> "E" is a "stolen" identifier", from another image in the same theme. 09.26.17 # JdGordon: yeah, I just realized that 09.26.21 # <[Saint]> I caught this purely by accident. 09.26.59 # <[Saint]> I was shuffling some code around, splitting out the battery bar and charge animation into seperate viewports. 09.27.28 # <[Saint]> I accidentally c/p'd a line that ended up duplicating an identifier, and the result was the theme parsed fine. 09.28.33 Nick Barahir_ is now known as Barahir (~Barahir@fb08schindler24.anorg.chemie.uni-giessen.de) 09.28.48 # so E is correct or D? 09.28.56 # DONT USE SINGLE LETTER IDENTIFIERS!!!! 09.28.57 # :D 09.29.40 # <[Saint]> when I edited the theme to correct the mistake with the identifier, it stopped parsing again. 09.29.40 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 09.29.56 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 09.30.07 # ok, this makes sense... there is no E image so the %xd() fails, butt the error message is useless 09.30.08 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@ip-213-124-221-122.ip.prioritytelecom.net) 09.30.11 # so its not a bu 09.30.13 # bug 09.30.26 # <[Saint]> No, it is. 09.30.32 # <[Saint]> It very definitely is. 09.30.55 # <[Saint]> If I steal any other identifier, it still fails. 09.31.02 # <[Saint]> "E" just magically lets it parse. 09.31.28 # <[Saint]> I just stole "A" and put that in the failing hunk, failed to parse. 09.32.14 # hmmm 09.34.09 # http://imagebin.org/243778 <- forth in simulator running testbench 09.34.12 # <[Saint]> Ah, no. 09.34.20 # <[Saint]> Hum...dammit. 09.35.44 Quit melmothX (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 09.35.54 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 09.37.38 # <[Saint]> Checking /home/saint/Desktop/iLike Classic/Current/iLike Classic/wps/iLike.fms... 09.37.38 # <[Saint]> WPS parsing failure 09.37.38 # <[Saint]> saint@saint-desktop:~/Development/Rockbox/development/rockbox/build$ 09.37.46 # <[Saint]> oh, that's helpful :) 09.44.13 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2a01:d0:ffff:34a::8:3) 09.45.53 # <[Saint]> FS#12806 can be closed, I'm a huge douch 09.45.54 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12806 Checkwps fails, but skin works on sim/target (bugs, unconfirmed) 09.45.58 # <[Saint]> +e 09.46.44 # so is it just bad error handling? 09.46.57 # * [Saint] nods 09.47.36 # hehe 09.47.38 # <[Saint]> An error I should have caught myself, but checkwps definitely should've caught...better than it did. 09.48.19 # I neeed to fix it up.. ALTO 09.48.24 # aLOT 09.48.46 # <[Saint]> The fail with no output was a case missmatch, trying to call image "h" instead of "H". 09.49.07 # <[Saint]> The primary error was trying to load subimages of an image that didn;t declare it had any subimages. 09.50.28 # <[Saint]> And yes, that was a highly idiotic mistake, I know. :) 09.52.19 Join Buglouse [0] (~Buglouse@unaffiliated/Buglouse) 09.54.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.59.14 # <[Saint]> One thing that does seem to be a bug is that checking "iLike.*" (so it parses .fms/.sbs/.wps all in one fell swoop) with the -vvv param seqfaults checkwps 09.59.32 # <[Saint]> *segfaults even 10.00.01 Quit Buglouse (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 10.00.17 # * [Saint] idly wonders why reporters can't go "oh, dammit!" and close their own tasks. 10.01.24 Quit the-kyle (Remote host closed the connection) 10.05.54 Quit esperegu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.08.50 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~briehl@p579CC981.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.08.54 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@ip-213-124-221-122.ip.prioritytelecom.net) 10.10.47 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@cpe-024-211-185-030.nc.res.rr.com) 10.11.25 Quit TheSphinX_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 10.13.09 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 10.17.23 Join XavierGr [0] (XavierGr@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 10.20.01 Join Buglouse [0] (~Buglouse@unaffiliated/Buglouse) 10.20.16 Quit XavierGr (Disconnected by services) 10.20.17 Join XavierGr [0] (~xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 10.21.37 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 10.25.23 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.35.11 Join bebna [0] (~a.fasold@94.101.33.114) 10.41.20 Join melmothX [0] (~melmoth@unaffiliated/melmothx) 10.42.06 Join amithkk [0] (uid4289@2buntu/writers/amithkk) 10.57.16 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 11.00.52 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@p5B32293B.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.03.17 Quit ruskie (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.03.46 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 11.06.24 Quit freqmod (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 11.13.52 Join ruskie [0] (ruskie@sourcemage/mage/ruskie) 11.13.52 Quit ruskie (Excess Flood) 11.16.22 Quit wry (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 11.17.35 Quit TheJacquerie (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 11.17.45 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Quit) 11.18.05 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 11.28.03 Join ruskie [0] (ruskie@sourcemage/mage/ruskie) 11.54.42 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 11.54.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.00.27 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Quit) 12.00.47 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 12.09.50 Join hatseflats [0] (~hatseflat@hatsuseno.rootaccess.nl) 12.10.04 # hey everyone 12.10.37 # if I wanted to by an mp3 player only and specifically to run rockbox, what would be a good choice? 12.10.52 # I've had a good experience with my iPod video back when it was still alive 12.11.29 # and I'm considering getting one again, but is there some player that really whip's the llama's ass when it comes to running rb? 12.14.08 Join [Saint_] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 12.15.23 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 12.17.42 Quit esperegu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.18.19 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@ip-213-124-221-122.ip.prioritytelecom.net) 12.19.22 # hatseflats: the iPod Video is fine 12.19.53 # don't mistake the iPod Video with the iPod Classic though 12.20.02 # the rockbox installer doesn't work with the latter 12.20.15 # Oh no, I especially want the 5.5 generation 30G/black thing :) 12.20.26 # yup, that's fine 12.21.01 # Thing is, at the time I had that one, and I came in here, there where multiple voices that claimed my choice was bad for a plethora of reasons 12.21.08 # such as? 12.21.41 # which is exactly my point, if I remembered / had logs that went back that far I'd know and I'd be able to evaluate on my own if it's still a bad choice or not 12.21.57 # the iPod Video has a very slight bass rolloff, but likely inaudible 12.22.23 # hatseflats: the channel is logged, you can try a search 12.22.41 # melmothX: didn't notice that topic part, I'll query around for a bit, thanks :) 12.22.44 # the Sansa Clip+ is the player that everyone raves about, but the iPod's interface is more usable IMO (bigger screen + scroll wheel) 12.23.11 # especially if you have a large music collection to browse through 12.23.31 # the sansa is cheap :-) 12.23.36 # that's true 12.23.58 # yeah, second hand g5.5's are running up to 75 euro's in my location 12.24.06 # that's not too expensive 12.24.12 # but I really miss having a dedicated player 12.24.26 # hm, I might just jump on it then :) 12.25.58 # the only thing I'd be wary about, is the health of the battery 12.27.11 # aye, that's what made me take apart my previous one, I didn't think I'd need a player anymore, so after the battery started running downhill I harvested the HD for some other project 12.28.29 # cool, well, that's basically what I wanted to know, thanks copper, melmothX 12.30.22 # np 12.30.55 Nick [Saint_] is now known as [Saint] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 12.32.48 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 12.34.06 Part hatseflats ("sayonara") 12.34.14 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 12.46.38 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Quit) 12.52.57 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 13.03.17 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 13.07.51 # The iPod video, copper, for the record historically has been bashed on numerous fronts. It has a rather slow processor:screen ratio compared to most the other players out there. It has a lack of buttons for those who "grew up" on the earlier players. It has buttons w/o much in the way of tactile feedback. It has a proprietary power/data jack, and as you mentioned it has bass rolloff on sub 32-ohm headphones. 13.08.27 # The processor:screen ratio was actually quite burdensome for quite a long time. 13.09.35 # <[Saint]> If we know how to access the gpu-ish thing it has at the bare metal, things would be vastly different with that player. 13.09.40 # <[Saint]> *knew 13.09.59 # assuming it could do more that accept a raw mpeg 4 asp stream and spit it out. 13.10.58 # <[Saint]> It's still a nice target, imo. especially with a CF card. 13.11.07 # I think I recall talk that it was a black box to Apple as well. A firmware got loaded into in and after that it just got fed and shat. 13.11.24 # <[Saint]> Ah, hum. :-S 13.14.19 Join pamaury_ [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 13.14.58 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 13.18.05 Quit pamaury_ (Client Quit) 13.18.28 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 13.21.04 Join freqmod [0] (~quassel@cm-84.215.142.108.getinternet.no) 13.38.21 Join redhot [0] (~kvirc@195.238.92.36) 13.38.28 # Hello everybody! 13.38.43 # What's up? 13.39.46 # <[Saint]> sky. 13.41.40 # sky is blue yep 13.44.36 Join esperegu_ [0] (~quassel@ip-213-124-221-122.ip.prioritytelecom.net) 13.45.08 Quit esperegu (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 13.53.55 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@ip-213-124-221-122.ip.prioritytelecom.net) 13.54.11 Quit esperegu_ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 13.54.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.57.31 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~briehl@p5B3219FE.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.00.52 Quit TheSphinX_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.04.54 # Have the wiki-activation been fixed? 14.06.09 Join amayer_ [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 14.06.28 # soap: it's still very usable with Rockbox, though, right? 14.06.37 # Yes. 14.06.54 # Better battery than OF in some use cases. 14.07.23 # rarely significantly poorer than OF. 14.07.48 # But always going to be a laggard in MPEGplayer and demanding games. Rockboy, etc. 14.07.59 # And in what case does the slowness of the processor show, besides maybe stuff like cover flow? 14.08.19 # you just answered that :) 14.08.38 # I'd say if you're happy with the video, it's a good device 14.08.57 # I never had one, but I never heard that buying one for Rockbox was a bad idea 14.09.22 # Zagor: Sorry for disturbing you, but can you tell me if wiki-registration is fixed? :) 14.09.40 # saratoga also hinted that the EQ was somewhat CPU-intensive? 14.09.49 # redhot: it's not, i'm afraid. :-( putting up on my todo-list now. 14.11.16 # Zagor: ok, thanks a lot, I will ask in another 1 week then 14.13.12 Quit esperegu (Read error: Operation timed out) 14.13.31 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@ip-213-124-221-122.ip.prioritytelecom.net) 14.14.46 # copper, yes the EQ is processor intensive on all devices. 14.14.54 # the PP ipods just don't have much EQ to spare. 14.15.01 # PP? 14.15.06 # portaplayer 14.15.16 # The SoC in them 14.15.22 # the 10 band EQ runs fine on the Classic though 14.15.25 # Shared with lots of other devces 14.15.54 # Does it? With all codecs? Including ape -c5000? :) 14.16.00 # * gevaerts wants proof! 14.16.01 # eh, never used ape 14.16.26 # I'd say the 10 band EQ might run fine on a PP device as well, for low-CPU codecs like mp3 14.16.44 # And considering the PP devices run at 30 (still?) and boost to their max frequency of 80Mhz, and that most codecs take 15-20 Mhz, then there's the WPS and interaction, the EQ very quickly kicks the PP devices to constant full (battery hogging) speed. 14.18.08 # hmm, good to know 14.18.31 # buschel demonstrated quite decent battery life gains on those by lowing the clock as far as he could for the easy codecs and boosting on more stuff. 14.18.40 # (MPC, etc) 14.19.21 # I'd assume that the dynamic range compressor is also somewhat taxing? 14.20.34 # I haven't used it. 14.21.32 # I'll send you half a bitcoin if you post two battery runtimes - identical situations except one with it on and one with it off - to the wiki 14.22.06 Part redhot ("Once you know what it is you want to be true, instinct is a very useful device for enabling you to know that it is") 14.22.32 # ok, prices are up. 1/3 a BTC. 14.23.48 # you mean the EQ? 14.24.37 # I can do it next time my mood commands me to switch back from the OF to Rockbox :P 14.27.35 # <[Saint]> is there a 10 band eq patch synced to current git HEAD floating around? 14.28.56 # [Saint]: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b5xbw6cp4ikfxwn/MjELjmDNJ_ 14.29.22 # <[Saint]> oh, thanks 14.31.16 # <[Saint]> copper: no, sorry, I don't want a binary. 14.31.23 # ah 14.31.24 # geez 14.31.30 # he's still not distributing sources? 14.31.40 # despite saratoga asking him repeatedly 14.32.36 # <[Saint]> hum, maybe they're in the .zip 14.32.38 # <[Saint]> I'll check. 14.32.44 # I don't think so 14.32.50 # This is 6 months old: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bnavehlrmgh0zlt/OJqZGzLrEb 14.32.58 # <[Saint]> Oh, good boy. they are there. 14.33.20 # ah, nice! 14.34.41 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 14.37.49 # <[Saint]> the power management patch is a bit weird... 14.40.16 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-32-53.dynamic.chello.pl) 14.43.33 # JdGordon: What is the simplest way to create text list with arbitrary (aka restricted by available memory) number of rows? 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That way I will have scrolling console for free. 14.54.22 # [Saint]: which patch(what target)? 14.54.39 # <[Saint]> nevermind. got it sorted. 14.55.04 Quit mt (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 14.56.15 # [Saint]: i dont mean to nag but did you get a chance to check out what the code i wrote does? 14.56.17 # all you have to do is compile and put any theme on it that has a slider. 15.01.55 Quit mortalis (Quit: Leaving) 15.02.06 Join mt [0] (~quassel@41.233.8.126) 15.02.06 Quit mt (Changing host) 15.02.06 Join mt [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/mt) 15.04.17 Join TheJacquerie [0] (radio23@newelite.bshellz.net) 15.07.41 Join wry [0] (wry@newelite.bshellz.net) 15.11.35 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@p5B321E7E.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.14.35 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15.22.19 Join pamaury_ [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 15.22.45 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 15.24.11 Quit pamaury_ (Client Quit) 15.29.21 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 15.29.33 Join zu [0] (~zu@ks387228.kimsufi.com) 15.29.54 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 15.34.27 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 15.42.51 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 15.48.02 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 15.54.06 Join webguest88 [0] (~435622d3@www.haxx.se) 15.54.54 Quit zu (Remote host closed the connection) 15.55.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.55.32 Quit webguest88 (Client Quit) 15.55.38 Join webguest31 [0] (~435622d3@www.haxx.se) 15.56.38 Join zu [0] (~zu@ks387228.kimsufi.com) 15.57.43 # my sansa fuse won't turn on at all . I installed rockbox , it worked for about 24 hours, then crashed and now it looks dead. what can i do 15.59.04 Quit webguest31 (Client Quit) 15.59.11 Join webguest61 [0] (~435622d3@www.haxx.se) 16.00.46 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 16.01.07 Join maruk [0] (~papier@titanium.v6.sdv.fr) 16.01.34 Quit webguest61 (Client Quit) 16.04.50 Quit kevku (Quit: KVIrc 4.3.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) 16.06.03 Part LinusN 16.07.29 # is there a way to log cpu usage? 16.32.13 # amayer_: not directly, although you could probably hack up the scheduler to record it if you really need that info 16.48.00 Quit TheSphinX_ (Read error: Operation timed out) 16.49.39 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~briehl@p5B322912.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.50.40 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 16.52.39 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@p5B321D26.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.54.35 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 16.54.36 Quit Zagor (Changing host) 16.54.36 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 16.55.32 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 16.59.13 Quit Buglouse (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17.14.30 Join Buglouse [0] (~Buglouse@unaffiliated/Buglouse) 17.22.44 # <[Saint]> Anyone feel like taking this for a whirl? I'm about to shove it up on gerrit in a few minutes: 17.22.50 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@Gizka-1-pt.tunnel.tserv24.sto1.ipv6.he.net) 17.23.23 # <[Saint]> http://pastebin.com/3XHB6Lah <--- 10 band EQ w/ presets from VLC 17.24.40 # <[Saint]> I rounded out the 10 band EQ patch I was given earlier by copper to a saner range (again, stolen from VLC) and also stole all of VLC's presets and applied them to our system rounded up/down as near as possible. 17.24.56 # ? 17.24.56 Quit kevku (Client Quit) 17.25.14 # the original 10 band EQ patch matches my ALSA EQ perfectly 17.25.40 # <[Saint]> I think 30 is too low for the low shelf, personally. 17.25.48 # <[Saint]> I stole VLC's setup. 17.27.09 # it's configurable anyway 17.27.31 # I had to change the 5 band EQ values in order to approximate my desktop EQ 17.27.44 # <[Saint]> 60, 170, 310, 600, 1K, 3K, 6K, 12K, 14K, 16K 17.27.57 # <[Saint]> It's nicely rounded I thought. 17.28.06 # <[Saint]> nicer than the original patch imo. 17.28.38 # has there been any talk about including it to targets that are powerful enough? 17.28.42 # (like the Classic) 17.28.55 # as saratoga suggested 17.29.01 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:27:773:0:feed:c0f:fee) 17.29.10 # <[Saint]> I wonder if there's any targets that aren't powerful enough to handle it? 17.29.30 # we were talking about the iPod Video's lowly processor earlier 17.29.51 # <[Saint]> At the present, I have't done any special conditions to apply it only to targets I know can run it. 17.30.09 # portaplayer targets 17.30.10 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~briehl@p5B322D23.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.30.31 # <[Saint]> I used to run a 10 band eq on my Nano1G 17.30.42 # <[Saint]> that's a baby Video, really. 17.31.00 # <[Saint]> but the screen takes a lot less effort to drive I imagine. 17.31.14 # the question is, how much would it tax the battery? 17.31.28 # hence soap's call to test it with and without with the battery bench app 17.32.20 # <[Saint]> It's disabled by default, and a user _should_ know that it will cause more cycles, and hence eat more battery. 17.32.32 # uh? 17.32.37 # I had no idea that it was taxing? 17.32.39 # <[Saint]> test_codec with/without DSP on the Classic has a non-trivial difference. 17.32.45 # s/?/./ 17.32.51 Quit TheSphinX_ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 17.32.55 # I had no idea until saratoga and soap told me 17.32.59 # <[Saint]> Yeah, sure it is. 17.33.07 # <[Saint]> More cpu cycles, more battery. 17.33.07 # and I don't recall seeing it mentioned in the manual 17.33.25 # it's totally non obvious 17.33.36 # <[Saint]> Is it? Oh. Hum. Ok. 17.34.05 # for users who have no idea of how powerful their gear is, or how complicated DSPs are 17.34.28 # only you guys know 17.36.42 # <[Saint]> Anyway, yeah. I've given it its own branch so I can keep adding to it if need be. I'll add the special conditioning to it to apply it only to the more capable targets when needed. 17.37.06 # yup, no mention in the manual 17.37.41 # hmmm 17.37.47 # "Another area of savings is avoiding or reducing CPU boosting through disabling computing intense features (e.g. sound processing)" 17.37.48 # <[Saint]> It /probably/ should state that the EQ and bass/treble effects aren't free. 17.38.02 # <[Saint]> Ah, right, there we go. 17.38.09 # "In general all kinds of sound processing will need more CPU time and therefore consume more power. The less sound processing you use, the better it is for the battery runtime (for options see section 6)." 17.38.19 # my mistake 17.38.24 # <[Saint]> yay, cool, so it does say so. 17.38.34 # <[Saint]> No worries, I didn;t catch it either. 17.38.36 # it's in the "Optimising battery runtime" section 17.39.23 # strangely enough, Replaygain has its own paragraph, but neither the EQ or the DRC 17.41.48 # maybe there should be one paragraph: "Replaygain, EQ, DRC, generally all DSPs" 17.42.28 # I find it surprising that Replaygain would make a significant difference, btw 17.44.05 # One solution, which happens to also reduce the bitrate by a few kbps, is to apply gain while transcoding 17.44.27 # (and can prevent clipping due to lossy encoding) 17.45.00 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 17.46.58 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17.50.12 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 17.51.05 # IIRC that saved about 800 MiB over a total of like 28 GiB 17.51.23 # not much, but significant when all you have is a 32 GB microsdhc card! 17.52.55 # does the UI look ok with more EQ bands? 17.53.24 # it looks OK with 10 bands 17.53.42 # it fits on the iPod's screen without scrolling 17.54.03 # obviously not on, like, the Clip+ 17.54.38 # even 5 bands incur scrolling on the Clip 17.54.51 # but that's not really a problem, IMO 17.55.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.55.23 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 17.57.38 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@62.83.50.196.dyn.user.ono.com) 17.58.04 Join dynion [0] (~52a896aa@www.haxx.se) 17.58.22 # [saint] 17.58.28 # or another ipod classic fanboy 17.58.58 # present 17.59.04 # nice! 17.59.17 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 257 seconds) 17.59.17 # i just got mine delivered and ofc... i want to rockbox it 17.59.30 # but if i don't like it 17.59.39 # you can restore the OF using iTunes 17.59.41 # is there a way to get ipod os on it again? 17.59.45 # lol 17.59.53 # http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Uninstallation 17.59.54 # yeah that was my question xD 18.00.16 # though, tbh, I never managed to do it on Windows 7 18.00.23 # had to do it on a macbook every time 18.00.39 # Windows 7 seems to be plagued with driver hell 18.00.44 # np 18.00.47 # (Win7 + iTunes) 18.01.05 # ive got loads of friends with macbooks *cough* idiots*cough* 18.01.17 # thanks a lot! 18.01.31 # freemyipod has its own support chan on freenode 18.01.50 # #freemyipod-support 18.02.12 Quit DonAman (Quit: The Sleep of Reason brings forth monsters) 18.03.00 # damn 18.03.09 # their website seems to be having some problems right now 18.03.25 # http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation 18.03.28 # wow... rockbox worked even more automatical than last time with my sansa 18.03.30 # great...:D 18.03.56 # at the end of the installation, install this: http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-ipod6g.zip 18.04.23 # ow 18.04.28 # it looks astonishing 18.04.42 # no 18.04.44 # ive got a 5g 18.04.45 # :) 18.04.52 # automatic installation 18.04.57 # sigh 18.05.11 # ? 18.05.12 # this "iPod Classic" confusion is annoying 18.05.22 # ipod video 18.05.23 # sorry 18.05.34 # i'm ok with committing more EQ bands so long as teh UI is good and it disabled for targets that are not fast enough to handle it (perhaps #if ARM_ARCH > 4) 18.05.56 Quit ParkerR (Excess Flood) 18.06.12 # and maybe coldfire 18.10.13 # is that another parametric eq, or a normal graphic one? 18.11.38 # (do many people even need 5 bands of the parametric one?) 18.12.24 # dfkt: the 10 band EQ nicely matches my desktop EQ, so that's convenient 18.12.35 Join ParkerR [0] (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) 18.12.44 # though I managed to closely replicate my desktop 10 band EQ with the Clip's 5 band EQ 18.13.04 # closely enough anyway 18.13.22 Join DonAman [0] (~DocHollid@unaffiliated/phifedoc) 18.14.06 # wat te fucking hell 18.14.15 # oh sorry for the swearing 18.14.25 # * dynion hugs [saint] 18.14.28 # best tip everrrrrrr 18.14.37 # i love this specific ipod 18.17.19 # yeah 10 bands is probably pointless, but if people want it and there is no downside for everyone else might as well 18.18.23 Quit dynion (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 18.18.51 Join esperegu_ [0] (~quassel@ip-213-124-221-122.ip.prioritytelecom.net) 18.19.43 Quit esperegu (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 18.20.34 # saratoga, does processing power of the current eq change depending on activated bands? i.e. does it use less performance when only 1 band is enabled, compared to 5? 18.20.48 # yes it does 18.20.57 # very nice, didn't know that 18.21.03 # IIRC it basically calls the filter one time per band 18.21.37 # so its like 5 taps (IIRC) per active band 18.22.17 # we could possibly use ARMv5 stuff to speed it up, but its an IIR filter and i have no idea how changes in precision will affect it 18.23.49 Quit ps-auxw (Quit: leaving) 18.24.10 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@2001:470:c807:0:1532:4e5f:2ad3:4123) 18.26.46 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 18.29.29 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p4FC74B9E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.30.55 Join einhirn_ [0] (Miranda@bsod.vpn.tu-clausthal.de) 18.30.59 Quit einhirn_ (Client Quit) 18.31.13 Join einhirn_ [0] (Miranda@bsod.vpn.tu-clausthal.de) 18.33.52 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.35.34 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 18.38.20 Quit maruk (Quit: Leaving.) 18.50.35 Quit amayer_ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 18.53.30 Quit Rower (Quit: Hmmm...) 18.54.16 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 18.56.03 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-177.bitnet.nu) 19.02.09 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.213.243) 19.11.58 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 19.11.58 Quit n1s (Changing host) 19.11.58 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 19.14.37 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@91.179.46.101) 19.18.48 # <[Saint]> added g386 19.18.50 # Gerrit review #386 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/386 : 10 Band EQ w/Presets adapted from VLC by Hayden Pearce (changes/86/386/1) 19.19.40 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.20.35 Join Ward [0] (~Mirandaha@176-120-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) 19.20.58 Nick Ward is now known as Guest63681 (~Mirandaha@176-120-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) 19.20.59 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 19.21.19 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@91.179.46.101) 19.28.14 Join Raptors_ [0] (~whoneedsa@216-58-33-203.cpe.distributel.net) 19.30.57 Quit Raptors (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.33.41 Join bertrik_ [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.36.28 # [Saint]: did you check whether the eq screen still fits on small screen? 19.37.27 # <[Saint]> No, I was going to comment on that on the task. 19.37.55 # <[Saint]> For now it just naively applies it to all, player-specific tuning can be added as needed. 19.38.15 Join dynion [0] (~52a896aa@www.haxx.se) 19.38.41 # I think 10 is a bit too much as hardcoded, it needs a lot more processing power. but I guess it would be nice if the number of bands could be made runtime configurable 19.38.46 # <[Saint]> but, the EQ screens scroll...don't they? 19.38.57 # I would be surprised 19.39.04 # <[Saint]> Hum. 19.39.07 # yes they do 19.39.13 # <[Saint]> Aha. 19.39.18 # [saint] 19.39.27 # at this moment you're the best person on earth for me:D 19.39.43 # uh oh 19.39.46 # it will only last a few days 19.39.53 # but until that time: enjoy!:D 19.40.00 # stalker alert! 19.40.01 # <[Saint]> :) 19.40.17 # i love my uhm... 19.40.27 # how am i going to call it... cant call it apple] 19.40.29 # or ipod 19.40.39 # rockbox classic sounds kinda ok...:p 19.40.40 # does the graphical eq screen scroll? 19.40.53 # yes 19.41.09 # with a 10 band eq you can simply call it "ac adapter" :p 19.41.22 # you can easily check it with stock rockbox on the clip+ 19.41.37 # <[Saint]> dfkt: Hahaha ;) 19.42.05 # <[Saint]> I have a classic and a CF'd Color, no battery woes for me :P 19.42.13 Quit einhirn_ (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 19.42.25 # ?:P 19.42.43 # <[Saint]> I don't think it'll make /that/ much difference. 19.42.56 # <[Saint]> Benching the Classic is annoying, as it gets ~40 hours. 19.43.25 # 40 hours?? 19.43.29 # I got like 32 19.43.43 # <[Saint]> thin, or thick? 19.43.46 # what is crossfeed?:S 19.43.47 # thin, latest 19.43.49 # does the pp handle decoding anything moderately complex in realtime with 10 bands of eq used? 19.43.54 # <[Saint]> Aha, that's why. 19.44.22 # <[Saint]> thin == 550mAh, thick == 850mAh 19.44.23 Join amayer_ [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 19.44.29 # I see 19.45.22 # i know that!:P 19.45.36 # i knew something more than anyone who's here 19.45.42 # that's like the first time:P 19.46.34 # this thing is really cool... even when im not using flac it sounds great 19.54.11 # why isnt there a function so i can use it as a portable dac... for my nexus 7 tablet or something 19.55.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.55.47 # because there's no USB input and the hardware wasn't designed for that? 19.55.53 # ah ok 19.55.54 # :p 19.56.00 # it wouldve been great thoguh 19.56.03 # though* 19.56.05 # anyway 19.56.10 # it's usually the opposite 19.56.11 # a more relevant question 19.56.19 # USB DACs used with the iPod 19.56.25 # there's a half-finished patch to do that on some ams sansas 19.56.33 # before i rockboxed it 19.56.40 # there was some music on it 19.57.02 # now the music is still on it but im not able to find it anymore 19.57.29 # where dit it go? 19.57.33 # i dont use itunes bt 19.57.33 # w 19.57.35 # i hate it 19.57.41 # <[Saint]> If you wanted to get technical about it, we /probably/ could drive line-in from USB 19.57.45 # dynion: ipod classic? 19.57.52 # ipod video 5th 19.58.49 # dynion: if you had music that the OF could access, it's in the itunes_control (or somesuch) folder under random filenamse 19.58.58 # <[Saint]> so the answer is more like "because you haven't done it yet" 19.59.14 # hmmm 19.59.22 # but you guys are the tech savvy's 19.59.43 # im the loser who has a lot of profit of you! 19.59.45 # like 20.00.05 # i didnt know how to power off 20.00.05 # :p 20.00.08 # * [Saint] notes that he wasn't born with the ability to code in C 20.00.28 # <[Saint]> nor was any other contributor 20.00.35 # [Saint]: no, that's clear! ;) 20.00.58 # <[Saint]> Exactly! I barely have the ability now! ;) 20.01.07 # ...:p 20.01.18 # does it work in ntfs too? 20.01.32 # 'cause it's fat32 now 20.01.41 # and i think ntfs should be a littlebit more stable 20.02.14 # <[Saint]> No. 20.02.40 # + the music really is unfindable... 20.02.43 Quit esperegu_ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20.02.55 Quit akaWolf (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.03.01 # its like rockbox put a wall in between 20.03.07 # new player 20.03.09 # and all the old 20.03.20 # <[Saint]> n1s told you where it was. 20.03.26 # <[Saint]> there's no magic going on. 20.03.28 # dynion: the folder is hidden and, hint: try the database if you want to know what the files are 20.03.59 # ah hidden folder:) 20.04.10 # <[Saint]> Right, the database doesn't care where the music is. 20.04.25 # i never saw that before on a mp3 player...:P 20.04.44 # the first one who says :"that's because they're hidden" is going to be slapped 20.05.16 # because i now realise how stupid that must have sounded:P 20.05.16 Mode "#rockbox +o gevaerts" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 20.05.24 # That's because they're hidden 20.05.29 # oh fuck! someone is on his toes 20.05.30 # * gevaerts looks dynion straight in the eyes 20.05.39 # * dynion beats up gevearts with an apple product 20.05.51 # hmm 20.05.53 Mode "#rockbox -o gevaerts" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 20.05.55 # should have proxied first 20.05.55 # :p 20.06.57 # Anyway, most players that have non-MSC handling have hidden directories of some kind 20.07.18 # hmmm cant find the map options in windows 7 20.07.23 # only used to it in windows xp 20.07.36 # found it 20.07.41 # there's no direct link anymore 20.08.27 # found it 20.08.31 # can i delete the whole mpa 20.08.33 # map* 20.08.37 # or should i just delete music 20.12.38 # btw 20.12.42 # what will happen to donations? 20.13.33 # I don't know the details, but a large part goes to the more or less yearly developer conference, and the other major expense is funding players for developers 20.15.55 # hmmm 20.16.57 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 20.22.52 # maybe a weird idea 20.23.07 # but what about making a rockbox port for a raspberry pi? 20.23.20 # so you can have a good movie, but with a good soundoutput too! 20.23.27 # You should be able to run the application build on it 20.25.09 # no sure 20.25.22 # should buy a raspberry pi first:p 20.26.12 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@ip-213-124-221-122.ip.prioritytelecom.net) 20.28.21 Join lebellium_ [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 20.29.23 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20.29.30 Nick lebellium_ is now known as lebellium (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 20.29.51 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 20.32.01 # There is little point replacing a full blown OS with Rockbox on a computer, just run Rockbox under the OS if you want to 20.33.38 # raspberry pi is no computer 20.33.55 # What is it then? 20.34.04 # hmmm 20.34.13 # a mobile phone without a screen 20.34.30 # its at least a lot closer:p 20.34.31 # It is a computer 20.34.39 # raspberry pi drives arm hardware 20.34.49 # It uses an ARM CPU, yes 20.34.51 # so? 20.35.01 # at this point the only arm computers are with windows RT 20.35.08 # wrong 20.35.10 # * gevaerts points out that "making sense" is part of this channel's implied topic 20.35.20 Join SuperBrainAK [0] (~Andy@71-36-165-101.phnx.qwest.net) 20.35.33 # well 20.35.38 # would you call a tablet a computer 20.35.41 # yes 20.35.44 # yes 20.35.46 # phone? 20.35.49 # yes 20.35.51 # dumbphone? 20.35.56 # No 20.35.59 # why not 20.36.02 # also arm hardware 20.36.02 # Anyway, that's totally off-topic 20.36.05 # What the processor architecture is is completely irrelevant 20.36.19 # ARM on x86 or whatever has nothing to do with it whatsoever 20.36.23 # s/on/or/ 20.37.06 # i think it's time to agree we disagree 20.37.13 # I can agree that you are wrong 20.37.21 # And talking nonsense 20.37.28 # So OK :) 20.37.45 # dynion: yes, you are wrong 20.37.48 # in your vision, my soundcard is a computer 20.37.53 # er, no 20.38.00 # it has processing units...:p 20.38.01 # OFF TOPIC! 20.38.07 # ok im moving to community 20.38.10 # gevaerts: But I'm arguing with an idiot! :) 20.38.19 # dynion: take it to -community if you really want 20.38.25 # already there 20.38.36 # i'm not an idiot, but thanks for implying i am 20.42.00 Quit enriched (Remote host closed the connection) 20.54.02 Join zaphee [0] (~user@ede67-2-82-232-36-5.fbx.proxad.net) 21.01.42 Quit pretty_function (Remote host closed the connection) 21.06.37 Quit esperegu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.07.03 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@ip-213-124-221-122.ip.prioritytelecom.net) 21.15.46 Join Sanguinius [0] (~kvirc@93-40-70-84.ip37.fastwebnet.it) 21.21.29 Quit y4n (Quit: coob ov vood?) 21.31.20 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~briehl@p579CC886.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.34.01 Quit SuperBrainAK (Quit: pbly going to sleep /_\) 21.34.20 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@p579CC69C.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.36.46 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 21.39.58 Quit Rower (Quit: Hmmm...) 21.47.18 Join Self-Perfection [0] (~self@95-25-136-55.broadband.corbina.ru) 21.48.57 Join SuperBrainAK [0] (~Andy@71-36-165-101.phnx.qwest.net) 21.55.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.58.52 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@maf.wirelesstcp.net) 22.01.19 Quit TheSphinX_ (Read error: Operation timed out) 22.05.16 Join eckoit [0] (~ryan@50.65.10.24) 22.06.02 Quit dynion (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 22.07.57 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~briehl@p5B322BAC.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.14.34 Quit Raptors_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 22.17.47 Join Raptors [0] (~whoneedsa@216-58-33-203.cpe.distributel.net) 22.18.19 Quit esperegu (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 22.18.54 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@ip-213-124-221-122.ip.prioritytelecom.net) 22.27.56 Quit melmothX (Remote host closed the connection) 22.29.09 Quit Raptors (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 22.30.49 Join Raptors [0] (~whoneedsa@216-58-33-203.cpe.distributel.net) 22.31.12 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5490DDEB.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.31.12 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 22.31.13 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 22.33.40 # any cmake expert ? 22.34.59 Quit Raptors (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 22.37.09 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 22.48.35 Quit Buglouse (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 22.52.25 Quit Self-Perfection (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 22.53.30 Part eckoit 22.54.12 Quit zaphee (Quit: Leaving.) 22.54.51 Quit scorche (Disconnected by services) 22.54.54 Join scorche` [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 22.56.28 Quit SuperBrainAK (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23.00.22 Quit amayer_ (Quit: amayer_) 23.00.50 Quit esperegu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.03.35 Join Raptors [0] (~whoneedsa@216-58-33-203.cpe.distributel.net) 23.04.41 Join Buglouse [0] (~Buglouse@unaffiliated/Buglouse) 23.04.48 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 23.10.35 Quit Katu (Remote host closed the connection) 23.13.25 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 23.25.40 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 23.25.53 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 23.30.49 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.31.07 Quit bertrik_ (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23.32.04 Quit AlexP (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.34.42 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 23.35.25 # [Saint], 12K, 14K, 16K seems a bit tightly packed, even for a young person. 23.35.58 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 23.36.46 # 55, 110, 220, 440, 880, 1760, 3520, 7040, 1480 = only 9 bands but moves in even octaves. 23.37.41 # 14080 even 23.44.15 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 23.45.05 Quit GodEater (Remote host closed the connection) 23.45.15 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 23.50.32 Join Belzebub [0] (~torrentow@unaffiliated/blown-engine) 23.52.05 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 23.52.50 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 23.55.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.58.03 Quit Sanguinius (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/)