--- Log for 27.01.113 Server: pratchett.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: Guest87001 Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 10 days and 4 hours ago 00.09.43 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@p5B323284.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.11.57 Quit TheSphinX_ (Read error: Operation timed out) 00.12.31 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 00.13.13 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~briehl@p5B322189.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.17.21 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 00.19.55 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 00.31.44 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@p5B323932.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.35.04 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.36.31 Quit mt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.37.57 Join mt [0] (~quassel@41.233.10.227) 00.37.57 Quit mt (Changing host) 00.37.57 Join mt [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/mt) 00.44.44 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~briehl@p5B3225B8.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.46.36 Quit TheSphinX_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.47.29 Quit FOAD (Quit: I'll be back) 00.47.38 Join FOAD [0] (~foad@83.161.135.61) 00.47.39 Quit FOAD (Changing host) 00.47.39 Join FOAD [0] (~foad@unaffiliated/foad) 00.56.38 Quit FOAD (Quit: I'll be back) 00.56.46 Join FOAD [0] (~foad@83.161.135.61) 00.56.46 Quit FOAD (Changing host) 00.56.46 Join FOAD [0] (~foad@unaffiliated/foad) 01.00.15 Join TheSphin- [0] (~briehl@p5B323CAD.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.02.04 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01.04.22 Join eluria [0] (~wout@195-241-133-159.ip.open.net) 01.05.15 # hi. i've just installed rockbox on my ipod (very nice!) but i don't know how to put ogg files on it. floola refuses to do so without converting 01.05.34 # treat it like a hard drive, not an iPod. 01.06.01 # I assume Floola is an ipod "manager" program, eluria, a replacement for iTunes. 01.06.09 # soap: it is. 01.06.15 # no such program is going to think an iPod can play ogg. 01.06.15 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~briehl@p5B321D28.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.06.22 # so i can just drop such software and upload files as they are? 01.06.47 # But Rockbox doesn't depend on the iPod database. It can't use it infact. So load up your ipod as if it were a generic hard disk drive. 01.06.52 # yes 01.07.20 # nice. that's even better. not thinking of that option just shows how badly my mind got corrupted by the regular ipod 01.08.20 # and btw, it can use it. when i first opened the database item on the main menu, rockbox asked to init its db and afterwards it presented me with the same music list as regular ipod OS 01.08.35 # you can delete the ipod_control folder and thereby nuke your itunes-loaded music if you like. I haven't rebooted into Apple firmware for 5 years. 01.08.42 # no. 01.08.45 Quit TheSphin- (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01.08.48 # <[Saint]> rockbox can use the itunes db. 01.08.54 # Rockbox built its own database by scanning the files. 01.08.55 # <[Saint]> no one said it couldn't. 01.09.09 # I did and when did rockbox learn to parse the itunes database? 01.09.14 # <[Saint]> the iTunes db, however, will never load an .ogg file. 01.10.20 # i'll happily delete the ipod_control directory. good riddance 01.10.22 # <[Saint]> Sorry, I'm misrepresenting the term. "Rockbox is entirely capable of displaying files loaded by the OF, but, the OF will never load an .ogg" 01.11.22 # [Saint]: I see. I think I see how it works now, thx :) 01.11.53 # finally my ipod is one step closer to perfection. now if only it would have fm radio... 01.12.26 # <[Saint]> I mess it up myself, as you can see above. :) Rockbox isn;t using the iTunes database, it was erroneous of me to say so. What it can do, is scan the entire disk and display any media the OF happened to put there. 01.12.50 # <[Saint]> It'll only get an FM radio if you add the hardware to do so. 01.13.06 # <[Saint]> FM on an iPod requires the FM Remote. 01.13.12 # <[Saint]> s/the/an/ 01.13.29 # i always thought the hashed files contained original data. that's why i assumed rockbox would have to scan the db in order to retrieve metadata 01.13.42 Quit ender| (Read error: Operation timed out) 01.14.19 # [Saint]: hm interesting. i did not know such a thing existed. i'll look into it 01.15.09 # <[Saint]> Some docks also offer FM. 01.16.45 # i like the ipod's mobility though 01.16.45 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 01.16.58 # <[Saint]> If/When looking for accessories, don;t get confused by the ridiculously cheap FM transmitters. 01.17.18 # <[Saint]> They won't help you *recieve* FM in any shape or form. 01.17.23 # those are meant to play ipod music over regular radio right? 01.17.29 # * [Saint] nods 01.17.33 Join ender| [0] (whatever@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 01.18.01 # yeh i like the idea of that though. like the fake cassette players for car radios 01.18.56 # are there any good tutorials for cross compiling software to rockbox btw? it could come in handy to write my own code 01.19.03 # <[Saint]> http://mac.sillydog.org/archives/pic/ipodradioremote.gif <-- this is what you're looking for 01.19.12 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 01.21.16 # hm $17...not too bad 01.21.49 Quit bluebrother (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.21.51 Quit fs-bluebot (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.21.54 # <[Saint]> You can either write a plugin: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/HowtoWritePlugins , use the LUA enterpretor plugin: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginLua , or, code in C and add to the core and recompile. 01.22.21 # <[Saint]> There's no straight - conversion. 01.22.23 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 01.22.52 # i see. a plugin is probably closest to what i would use then. thanks 01.23.56 # <[Saint]> Generally speaking, unless it is very simple, it's not the greatest place to learn...but, it is an awesome place to learn. 01.23.58 # wow. my trusty old ipod suddenly got so much more useful. rockboz makes me very happy 01.24.07 # <[Saint]> It can be a very restrictive envirnment. 01.24.24 # <[Saint]> You're playing with devices that have sweet stuff all resources, usually :) 01.24.33 # rockbox you mean? would direct coding and recompilation be easier then? 01.25.06 # yeh. these devices really deserve more than just apple firmware :) 01.25.57 # <[Saint]> Perhaps I worded it badly. People often have very grand intentions, and then find out exactly how little resources these devices actually have, and then learn why they can't allocate massive arrays. 01.26.02 # <[Saint]> etc., etc. 01.26.20 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@f053152236.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.27.47 # oh right. well it can play audio and display graphics. i'm used to avr uC's so an ipod can't be that bad comparing 01.27.54 Join amayer [0] (~alex@h16.24.25.72.ip.windstream.net) 01.29.34 # <[Saint]> It isn't really an issue unless you're planning on contributing said plugin back to the source. 01.29.53 # <[Saint]> If you know the limits of your given target, and that's all that matters, it's a lot easier. 01.30.22 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@91.50.46.216) 01.30.47 Quit TheSphinX^ (Read error: Operation timed out) 01.31.38 # true 01.38.16 # well I'm off, thanks for your help! ltr 01.38.53 Part eluria (".") 01.42.29 Quit Horschti (Quit: quit) 01.42.48 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~briehl@p5B3234A1.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.44.41 Quit TheSphinX_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01.45.48 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@p5B3234A2.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.47.47 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 01.57.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.08.19 Quit ender` (Quit: Please help Conserve Gravity - Play Chess, not Basketball.) 02.32.42 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (~advcomp20@97-114-246-239.sxcy.qwest.net) 02.32.42 Quit advcomp2019_ (Changing host) 02.32.42 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 02.36.14 Quit advcomp2019 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.00.07 Quit zaphee (Quit: Leaving.) 03.00.56 Join zaphee [0] (~user@ede67-2-82-232-36-5.fbx.proxad.net) 03.02.13 Quit zaphee (Client Quit) 03.07.10 Quit derf (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 03.18.13 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 19.0/20130123083802]) 03.21.06 Quit pamaury (Quit: this->disconnect()) 03.31.37 Part amayer 03.57.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.22.09 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.22.09 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.22.10 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.22.10 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.22.11 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.22.12 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.37.05 Quit TheSphinX_ (Read error: Operation timed out) 04.42.39 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~briehl@p5B322D89.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.58.51 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 05.15.04 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 05.15.13 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.32.14 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@p5B3223B4.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.34.31 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 05.57.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.07.25 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: Operation timed out) 06.19.20 Quit Cinos (Quit: bye.) 06.52.45 Quit SuperBrainAK (Quit: pbly going to sleep /_\) 07.09.14 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 07.19.54 Join |akaWolf| [0] (~akaWolf@188.134.9.161) 07.54.14 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 07.57.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.20.59 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:27:773:0:feed:c0f:fee) 09.42.37 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~briehl@p5B323D28.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.45.13 Quit TheSphinX_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09.57.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.57.59 Quit wry (Quit: leaving) 09.58.42 Join wry [0] (wry@newelite.bshellz.net) 10.07.17 Join melmothX [0] (~melmoth@unaffiliated/melmothx) 10.41.02 Quit XavierGr (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 10.45.50 Join sakax [0] (~sakax@d8D862D2D.access.telenet.be) 10.59.09 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 11.00.38 Join stryaponoff [0] (~Miranda@host-46-50-149-227.bbcustomer.zsttk.net) 11.01.08 # Hello, guys! Anybody can review my commit? http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/389 11.03.48 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@unaffiliated/thelemonman) 11.16.19 Quit n17ikh (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 11.23.24 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@128.204.195.239) 11.23.24 Quit n17ikh (Changing host) 11.23.24 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@unaffiliated/n17ikh) 11.30.06 Join ender` [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.35.37 Quit n17ikh (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 11.36.26 Part ParkerR 11.37.13 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@128.204.195.239) 11.37.13 Quit n17ikh (Changing host) 11.37.13 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@unaffiliated/n17ikh) 11.41.49 # stryaponoff: are you in docs/CREDITS? 11.45.23 # JdGordon: No, I'm new to Rockbox. This is my first commit. 11.47.48 Join Madani [0] (~0531b0f1@www.haxx.se) 11.48.10 # hello everyone 11.48.25 # I'm having trouble charging my sansa clip+ from USB 11.48.58 # sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't 11.49.43 # when it doesn't, I have this message "Battery empty. RECHARGE ! Shutting down" and the device goes off 11.50.33 # it doesn't stay on long enough to begin the charge 11.55.04 # Madani: Maybe it's a hardware bug? I'm never having trouble with my Clip+. Does stock firmware charges the battery? 11.57.08 # stryaponoff: go ahead and add your name to that file and push the path again :) 11.57.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.00.10 # stryaponoff: no. Even with original firmware, the Sansa dies during the "refreshing your media" screen 12.00.16 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 12.02.42 # Madani: It seems like hardware error. Then I don't know that kind of help you want to receive here :) 12.03.23 # JdGordon: I was never working with git before. I need to delete the existing commit or something? 12.04.47 # well I guess there's one last thing you could help me with: can I completely delete Rockbox so I can send the Sansa back for an exchange ? 12.06.54 # Madani: Yes, you can. Just download the Sansa firmware and copy it to internal memory then disconnect player from computer. 12.07.24 # okay 12.07.26 # thank you ! 12.07.29 # Madani: Oh. Then remove the .rockbox folder too. 12.07.35 # okay :) 12.07.57 # Madani: :) 12.08.13 # bye 12.08.21 # Madani: Good luck 12.08.23 # stryaponoff: no, modify the file, then do "git commit --ammend -a" which will recommit the changs with the old log, then push it again and it will magically work 12.08.30 # there might only be one m in ammend 12.08.31 Quit Madani (Quit: CGI:IRC) 12.08.45 # git commit --amend 12.09.26 # JdGordon: Ok. I got it. 12.14.36 # JdGordon: Looks like I did it :) 13.06.52 Join yklaniska [0] (~5c34bbd3@www.haxx.se) 13.07.57 # Hi all! I have one question. Does rockbox downsampling all formats to 16/44.1??? 13.34.44 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 13.34.44 Quit n1s (Changing host) 13.34.44 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 13.50.55 Join Tuco1 [0] (~Tuco@cpe-67-247-37-180.nyc.res.rr.com) 13.50.55 Quit Tuco1 (Changing host) 13.50.55 Join Tuco1 [0] (~Tuco@unaffiliated/tuco) 13.54.44 # stryaponoff: just testing them now 13.57.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.57.53 # JdGordon: Thank you 13.58.42 # and pushed, thanks 14.04.27 # heeey 14.06.45 # JdGordon: I've never contributed open source projects before and chose to start with Rockbox. Hopefully, my first сommit will not the last one :) Thank you. 14.12.10 # yklaniska: yes 14.12.18 # Not very well either 14.17.22 # Does rockbox downsampling all formats to 16/44.1??? 14.18.26 # [Saint], ever get the 10-band EQ tested to your satisfaction? Do you want a PP test still? 14.18.46 # I'm going to be driving soon for the next 48 hours - plenty of time to run a few benches on my Nano 1G 14.22.19 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@p5B323B10.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.23.43 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 14.29.06 Quit sakax (Remote host closed the connection) 14.30.41 Join sakax [0] (~sakax@d8D862D2D.access.telenet.be) 14.30.55 Quit yklaniska (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 14.30.56 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@62.83.50.196.dyn.user.ono.com) 14.33.38 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 14.33.59 Quit sakax (Remote host closed the connection) 14.35.26 Join sakax [0] (~sakax@d8D862D2D.access.telenet.be) 14.40.42 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@5419F5F4.cm-5-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 14.41.50 Quit stryaponoff (Quit: I need to go. Have a nice day!) 14.48.12 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E42709.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.56.02 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 15.08.37 Join nateloaf [0] (~nwild@S0106bcaec5c3e90e.wp.shawcable.net) 15.11.08 Quit Belzebub (Changing host) 15.11.08 Join Belzebub [0] (~torrentow@unaffiliated/blown-engine) 15.31.48 Quit Horscht (Quit: quit) 15.48.44 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15.53.12 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 15.57.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.58.10 Quit guymann (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 16.00.13 Join guymann [0] (~c@unaffiliated/guymann) 16.05.04 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:27:773:0:feed:c0f:fee) 16.16.40 Join nosy-user [0] (~chatzilla@p5B2D15DD.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.31.36 Part nosy-user 16.33.17 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@178.174.211.174) 16.33.17 Quit B4gder (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.33.18 Quit Bagder (Changing host) 16.33.18 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 16.36.42 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 16.39.20 Quit copper (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) 16.40.21 Quit pamaury (Quit: this->disconnect()) 16.44.01 Join copper [0] (~copper@unaffiliated/copper) 16.48.43 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 16.57.52 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 17.05.11 Join zaphee [0] (~user@ede67-2-82-232-36-5.fbx.proxad.net) 17.15.54 Quit TheLemonMan (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17.16.18 Quit n1s (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17.26.02 # i resynced g#156 - how do i put that on gerrit? 17.26.05 # Gerrit review #156 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/156 : root menu: add the shutdown option to all builds by Jonathan Gordon (changes/56/156/1) 17.37.51 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 17.37.51 Quit n1s (Changing host) 17.37.51 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 17.38.48 Quit nateloaf (Quit: Leaving.) 17.39.21 Quit sakax (Remote host closed the connection) 17.45.38 # i read the git/gerrit wiki page... there is no simple way of just uploading a patch/diff, like with svn, i suppose? one has to do the whole ssh/git push thing? 17.47.17 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@62.83.50.196.dyn.user.ono.com) 17.48.24 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@95.236.111.209) 17.54.12 # dfkt: if you *really* don't want to do that you can still post patches in the tracker 17.55.20 # n1s, it's not that i don't want to, it's just that git is ridiculously complicated compared to svn, a lot harder to use than actually changing some code. ;) anyways, i think i'm ready to put it on gerrit, just need the right git push line so it appears appended to g#156, not as a new commit 17.55.22 # Gerrit review #156 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/156 : root menu: add the shutdown option to all builds by Jonathan Gordon (changes/56/156/1) 17.56.48 # dfkt: i think, all you need is to put the same Change-Id line in the commit message 17.57.00 # * gevaerts checks 17.57.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.57.43 # dfkt: you need to use --amend if you want to change an existing commit (which in this case you do) 17.57.56 # That commit needs to be the latest one 17.59.02 # git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master 17.59.10 # --amend [change-id]? 17.59.17 # No 17.59.26 # --amend is a commit argument, not push 17.59.32 # oh 17.59.45 # What does your git log look like now? 18.00.03 # uppermost commit is by me 18.00.47 # OK, and the one before that is the #156 one, I suppose? 18.01.14 # http://pastebin.com/MHt3mSN9 18.02.01 # oh, no, not the old #156 before it 18.02.16 # hmmm 18.02.26 # i made a .diff locally and patched it to the clean source 18.02.35 # ah, ok. hmmm 18.03.18 # You'll probably want to keep the author line from #156 too then I suppose 18.04.29 # So what you probably want to do now is "git commit --amend --author ", check if the author line is there in the commit message, and change the Change-Id: line to have the one from #156 18.05.23 # --author is JdGordon in that case (the original creator of #156)? 18.05.31 # I'd say so 18.05.44 # Oh, and get the entire commit message from #156. You're replacing it, not adding one on top 18.05.48 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.215.81) 18.05.53 # oh, good to know 18.06.29 # Well, the entire history will stay on gerrit, but if this is pushed to master, it will be just your commit with your commit message 18.06.58 # Author will be "Jonathan Gordon " 18.07.12 # * gevaerts edited the email address to avoid spam :) 18.07.16 # :) 18.07.42 # i should have done that for pastebin, aargh 18.07.57 # Well, it's on the net anyway 18.08.34 # In general it's easier to cherry-pick that gerrit change on top of your local tree, make the necessary changes, and then "git commit --amend". That will preserve the original commit message and author 18.09.16 # hmm, does that work if the original change doesn't apply to the source anymore? 18.09.26 # Yes and no 18.09.47 # * gevaerts tries 18.10.10 # you'll get a merge conflict 18.10.23 # but the same happens when you git pull --rebase on that branch 18.10.25 # afaik :) 18.10.30 # (and remember) 18.10.41 # Yes, there's a merge conflict 18.10.51 # aargh... i think i want to just upload a .patch, and stay uneducatead about git :/ 18.10.58 # uneducated, even 18.11.04 # git is really nice :) 18.11.33 # i'm sure it is if you use it on a daily basis :) 18.12.45 # * bluebrother doesn't 18.13.03 # I'm still using svn daily, and I frequently miss some of the features git has 18.13.26 # though admittedly the initial learning effort is higher on git 18.16.11 # what i have now - http://pastebin.com/4gGvHA8F 18.16.33 # of course all hell broke loose now that i re-committed the changes i already had in there 18.17.32 # the two changed files don't show up in the "git add" list, since they're already added, and i'm "ahead of master" 18.19.15 # * gevaerts isn't sure what to advise 18.19.33 # git checkout -f, and reset --hard, i suppose 18.19.39 # then apply the patches anew 18.20.08 # Yes, but try the cherry-pick way instead 18.20.15 # It's a *lot* easier 18.20.30 # * dfkt gonna read up on cherry-picking on the wiki page 18.21.02 # Just click on "cherry-pick" on the gerrit change page and copy the line it shows 18.22.29 # it gives me the error i expected: error: could not apply a914cb8... root menu: add the shutdown option to all builds 18.22.31 # It will tell you about the merge issue, which leaves the usual "<<<" and ">>>" markers in the file (same as svn, really). After you fix those, "git commit" will do the right thing 18.22.38 # ah ok 18.23.10 # Ah, git commit -a :) 18.23.29 # Or git add before git commit 18.32.54 # pamaury: in a week I will have more spare time...so I would also like to resume a little Z5 port along R1 18.33.10 Join TheSphinX^ [0] (~briehl@p579CC6F5.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.33.43 # lorenzo92: ok fine 18.33.53 # same thing for me approx ^^ 18.34.12 # I'm still working on the register differences though, I'm close to having an exhaustive table 18.34.29 Quit TheSphinX_ (Read error: Operation timed out) 18.34.31 # pamaury: great :) I'm just confused about a new target BUT that will share lot of code with the existing (stmp37xx) 18.34.53 # what do you about new target ? 18.35.51 # yeah the goal is to share many thing if possible, I would really like to be able to finish the register define generation and switch to this new scheme next week, this we have corect register definition 18.36.00 # okay 18.36.31 # at the same time I'll do some on on my x-fi which is stmp3700 so that we have the three families working 18.36.44 # good 18.44.41 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@p5B32394B.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.46.07 # seems i just need to fix the email address somewhere, somehow :) - http://pastebin.com/jz55pXkN 18.46.18 # it doesn't like me committing with JdGordon's address 18.46.33 # even though it knows my own address, the bastard 18.46.35 # i mean, git 18.47.24 # do i jsut manually edit COMMIT_EDITMSG? 18.48.22 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18.48.50 # i guess it's something more obscure than that though... in COMMIT_EDITMSG the email address is on a commented out line 18.52.57 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E43511.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.07.52 Quit lorenzo92 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 19.10.44 Join SuperBrainAK [0] (~Andy@71-36-165-101.phnx.qwest.net) 19.15.48 # this is like pulling teeth, i give up :p 19.15.52 # dfkt: iirc our gerrit configuration allows pushing with a different commit mail address only if you're a committer. 19.16.23 # i made a comment on the gerrit page, with a pastebin link... it's not like a lot of people seem to care about that feature anyways 19.18.33 # I'm rather under the impression that quite a lot of committers are busy with other things these days. 19.18.52 # after all, Rockbox has reached some kind of feature-completeness long ago. 19.18.59 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 19.19.16 # and dedicated DAPs are somewhat becoming extinct 19.19.28 # well yes, this patch is mostly useful for RaaA :) 19.20.34 # it's good to see that new ports for dedicated DAPs are still being worked on, though 19.20.43 # personally I don't see too much point in RaaA -- having native apps on top of some librockbox (or whatever it is called then) sounds like a better idea to me 19.20.46 # true. 19.21.19 # or, instead of "not much point" rather "not much point in doing RaaA without native frontend" :) 19.21.22 # personally, i find all android audio apps to be awful to use, most don't even have dedicated folder browsing 19.21.33 # rockbox is still the very best for my needs 19.21.56 # and the most configurable, of course 19.22.05 # I still use the Ipod for audio playback :D 19.23.01 # i use a cfr-modded x5 as my main player, and a clip+ on the go... but i love rockbox on my android thingies for cifs/samba playback at home - can't beat having 1TB+ FLAC on a 4GB archos 32 :) 19.23.34 # *cf-modded 19.28.24 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 19.33.27 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.34.06 Quit pretty_function (Remote host closed the connection) 19.57.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.06.53 Join pamaury_ [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 20.08.26 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 20.13.43 # yay. Finally HttpGet rewritten :) 20.14.02 # now to hope that this doesn't introduce new nasty bugs 20.14.09 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@host68-107-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 20.14.21 Quit lorenzo92 (Client Quit) 20.16.01 # and only a couple of fixes missing until Rockbox Utility will compile with Qt5 20.18.33 Join Cinos [0] (Cinos@a.not-so-innocent.hazel-eyed.little.catboy.tk) 20.19.55 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@host68-107-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 20.22.37 # pamaury_, do you know if anything big has changed in Rockbox? 20.22.50 Nick pamaury_ is now known as pamaury (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 20.23.03 # Raptors: when ? and why ? :) 20.23.12 # I'm running = 62de15f-120103 20.23.21 # was wondering if I should update 20.23.40 # 130103* 20.23.51 # which target ? 20.23.57 # Fuse+ 20.24.11 # yes, frequency scaling was enabled 20.24.35 # * bluebrother spots the probably most wrongly typed player again :) 20.24.57 # pamaury, so it runs better now? 20.24.58 # k 20.25.29 # battery life is much better 20.25.47 # and I think I fixed all the unstabilies to related to it 20.26.06 Join Dead_Body [0] (~Dead_Body@adsl-98-87-22-129.bna.bellsouth.net) 20.26.11 # sweet 20.26.11 # hi 20.26.36 # the only major problem left is the screen is still flickering once in a while 20.26.43 # my clip+ is bricked, and website says to ask for help before attempting anything myself 20.26.51 # ya I had the prob myself 20.27.07 # but it goes away so it's not too bad 20.27.10 # Dead_Body: ask for funman or bertrik 20.27.32 # yeah, but the OF does not suffer from it, so I really would like to understand where does it come from 20.27.41 # and recording is not implemented but you know that 20.27.43 # like /msg them? 20.28.55 # Dead_Body: writing their name should do, they'll answer only if their are there of course 20.28.58 # *they 20.29.06 # oh ok 20.29.16 # ya I generally just use OF for recording (if I need to). I think I'm going to buy a standalone digital recorder for school though. 20.29.23 # funman: excuse me sir, my clip+ is possibly bricked 20.29.55 # one day I'll implement recording, but it's so boring ^^ 20.31.43 # pamaury, why is there text in another language scrolling above the dani theme beside the power/sound icon? 20.31.45 # :/ 20.31.58 # It's an awesome theme so I don't mind it, but it's odd 20.32.25 # could be a theme bug, I have no idea 20.32.37 # JdGordon knows ways more about theming than me ^^ 20.32.37 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@62.83.50.196.dyn.user.ono.com) 20.32.46 # k 20.32.46 # probably you should check in the simulator 20.33.04 # if the bug persists, then it's a problem with the theme or the theme engine 20.36.29 # it's not happening in the other theme so I don't think it's a bug with the theme engine. 20.42.07 # pamaury, I don't think it's a bug 20.42.13 # it's part of the theme 20.42.20 # ok ^^ 20.42.23 # some spanish quote 20.42.24 # lol 20.42.29 # la vida es simple recibes de lo que has dado y para ser feliz tan solo hay que olvidar el pasado 20.42.32 # life is simple you get what you gave to be happy and just have to forget the past 20.44.47 # That's actually pretty cool. I wonder if I can modify this theme to change that quote to some other quote in english 20.45.03 # pamaury, do you know where I can download the theme file directly? 20.46.51 # on the website I guess 20.47.21 # how did you get it ? 20.48.12 # download manager 20.48.20 # I found it on the site though 20.48.20 # http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?target=sansafuzeplus 21.04.37 Join webguest92 [0] (~2e7326d0@www.haxx.se) 21.04.57 Quit webguest92 (Client Quit) 21.20.31 Join XavierGr [0] (XavierGr@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 21.23.03 Quit XavierGr (Disconnected by services) 21.23.05 Join XavierGr [0] (~xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 21.26.05 Join psilonux [0] (~psilonux@2001:470:1f15:10f6:d95e:dad8:d40f:ed92) 21.28.42 Quit |akaWolf| (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 21.28.52 Quit y4n (Quit: Today is the perfect day for a perfect day.) 21.31.27 # pamaury, I got data abort at 60055354 when I tried to load dani theme :/ 21.32.31 # hum 21.33.00 # <[Saint]> check the address against the map file? 21.33.28 # <[Saint]> That's really the only way data aborts mean anything other than "Eeeek! I died!" 21.36.51 # isn't backtrace enabled by default ? Raptors do you have stack trace ? 21.37.43 # <[Saint]> Is it? Oh. Hum. 21.39.04 # pamaury, it worked now without crashing (idk what changed) but it wont load the background :/ 21.39.08 # backdrop 21.39.21 # Is there a setting to change the backdrop manually? 21.39.27 # maybe that's a problem with th theme engine ^^ 21.39.33 # I don't know 21.39.42 # <[Saint]> More likely a problem with the theme. 21.40.00 # <[Saint]> It can be syntactically valid and still very broken. 21.40.17 # but can it crash the engine? 21.40.20 # [Saint], team is working fine but the backdrop isn't being loaded 21.40.33 # How are backdrops loaded? 21.40.37 # what file should I check? 21.40.48 # <[Saint]> Right, but, that's two entirely seperate themes, likely made at completely different times, by different authors. 21.41.04 # <[Saint]> One works, another doesn't means nothing, lest they are identical. 21.41.16 # <[Saint]> (which they aren't) 21.41.55 # <[Saint]> pamaury: can it? Ohhhhhh yes. :) 21.42.01 # <[Saint]> Should it? Heck no. 21.42.30 # lol 21.42.49 # <[Saint]> It's technically impossibly, but lebellium has a theme that can reproducibly melt theme theme engine, and even cause USB issues. :) 21.42.55 # <[Saint]> *impossible. 21.43.16 # <[Saint]> I think he's made several now, lucky boy. 21.43.48 # ok I rebooted it and it fixed the backdrop 21.43.49 # lol 21.44.47 # This theme is sweet. I changed the quote to a thomos edison one from some spanish quote too 21.45.00 # Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time...Thomas Edison 21.46.05 Quit XavierGr (Disconnected by services) 21.46.07 Join XavierGr [0] (~xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 21.46.21 # <[Saint]> Hum....doesn't that technically imply that one should keep trying *after* success? :-S #philosophygonewrong 21.46.35 # <[Saint]> (wildly offtopic anyway ;)) 21.46.45 # lol 21.47.09 # [Saint], well if you try one more time after success you might make it better ;_ 21.47.11 # ;)* 21.47.48 # There is some spanish scrolling on the home screen too 21.47.55 # gotta figure out how to translate it 21.48.59 # "rockbox is freedom" 21.49.04 # heh, that's pretty awesome 21.49.12 # rockbox es libertad 21.50.09 # k I found it, it's in sbs file 21.50.17 # Probably will just directly translate it 21.50.37 # pamaury, should I upload this theme? 21.50.40 # updated theme 21.50.58 # <[Saint]> There's nothing stopping you from doing so. 21.51.09 # <[Saint]> If you want to, go for it, the license specifically allows this. 21.53.16 # [Saint], lol, this theme killed usb 21.53.30 # <[Saint]> ...interesting. 21.53.30 Quit lorenzo92 (Remote host closed the connection) 21.54.40 # <[Saint]> The theme engine *really* shouldn't be able to do this. It smacks of memory corruption (buflib methinks), but no one can seem to find it. 21.54.46 # <[Saint]> It's *way* above my head. 21.55.32 # I'm still waiting for a god to fix that :D 21.56.05 # <[Saint]> A couple of people, wodz, funman, have tried to find the issue...and both of them fixed rather serious bugs with memory corruption...but not *the* bug, apparently. 21.56.43 # <[Saint]> Turns out that bufflib may have needed some *very* heavy testing, and it got heavy testing, but apparently not quite enough. 21.57.31 # <[Saint]> This shouldn't be possible. But it's happening. 21.57.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.57.55 # <[Saint]> Knowing the requirements to trigger it would be great. I don't even know that. 21.58.10 Quit melmothX (Quit: bau) 21.58.11 # <[Saint]> the best bet seems to be "a theme lebelliummade" :P 21.58.20 # <[Saint]> *lebellium made 21.58.32 # <[Saint]> Why? 21.58.36 # * [Saint] shrugs 21.58.41 # [Saint], http://pastie.org/5887836 21.58.45 # pamaury, 21.59.05 # woops 21.59.12 # that should be FSR 0x1 21.59.33 # http://pastie.org/5887846 21.59.50 # I'm going to port my theme to E200, H10/X5 and YP-R1 soon. Memory corruption will be very funny :D 22.00.13 # lebellium, which theme did you make? 22.01.00 # I made "lebellium Samsung-like" for Clip+, Clip Zip, Fuze, R0/Fuze+ and SA9200. 22.01.36 # o... 22.02.17 # It doesn't work perfectly on any target I guess ahaha 22.02.45 # well this is really disappointing I love this theme but it broke USB 22.02.47 # somehow 22.03.01 # the ignus theme 22.03.09 # yes, broke the theme engine is one of my powers. 22.03.18 # * [Saint] thought there was a way to easily get the .map files 22.03.24 # <[Saint]> Is this only for releases? 22.03.34 # [Saint], idk how 22.03.45 # I just typed what I saw on the screen 22.03.51 # the map file is produced with every buiild 22.04.08 # <[Saint]> pamaury: I thought we offered them for download, though? 22.04.12 # <[Saint]> For this occurence. 22.04.26 # only for release 22.04.36 # I think 22.04.43 # <[Saint]> Ahhhh....bugger. 22.05.19 # for which other build would you want them ? 22.06.07 # <[Saint]> It would be kinda useful if they existed for all, but I understand the added bandwidth concerns. 22.06.30 # for daily builds you mean ? 22.06.38 # ya theme engine is busted I think 22.06.40 # <[Saint]> It would just be nice if we could retrieve the .map file from a dev build and actually check the address. 22.07.01 # the only way I can use USB is if I use default cabby (or w/e) theme 22.07.02 # <[Saint]> Since the dev builds seem much more likely to have issue than a release. 22.07.22 # <[Saint]> Raptors: it isn't the theme engine as such, that's just the trigger. 22.07.42 # [Saint], o... 22.08.04 # Well I guess I can use the horribly ugly workaround of switching themes when I want to use USB 22.08.07 # then switching back 22.08.08 # lol 22.08.09 # <[Saint]> Were it the theme engine, every theme should fail similarly. 22.09.02 # raptors: that's what I do. I prefer swtiching back to cabbiev2 for USB transfers than using the OF and get the "updating database" forever 22.09.59 Quit psilonux (Quit: Leaving) 22.11.43 # [Saint], do you know what cabbie does that is special? 22.12.00 # <[Saint]> exactly nothing. 22.12.52 # <[Saint]> If a complex theme with "exotic" tags were the cause...I *really* should be able to trigger it, and I have never seen the issue personally. 22.13.50 # <[Saint]> It is very perplexing. My guess is memory collisions. Managing to load something that is exactly the right size to be in an area of memory the core doesn't expect to be occupied. 22.14.46 # <[Saint]> the buflib system is nightmarishly complex for me. I got lost in it very easily. 22.14.58 # <[Saint]> kugel is an evil mastermind of coding genius. 22.16.02 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-214-204.mcn.bellsouth.net) 22.16.10 # Ya, I don't get pretty much any advanced programming. When I tried to learn programming it was blowing my mind lol 22.16.19 # I'm glad I'm learning networking 22.16.28 # So much more straight forward and easy to understand 22.18.42 # buflib is powerful but complex, you can easily have bugs with such a thing 22.21.43 # I love how organized his code is 22.21.44 # https://github.com/kugel-/buflib/blob/master/buflib.c 22.21.48 # with comments and everything 22.22.08 # <[Saint]> It was a GSoC project, kinda had to be. 22.22.17 # GSoC? 22.22.24 # <[Saint]> Google Summer of Code 22.22.32 # o... 22.22.49 # <[Saint]> https://code.google.com/soc/ 22.25.18 # * scorche wonders if he should send out another email about GSoC... 22.29.00 # when does gsoc start ? 22.46.52 Quit Dead_Body () 22.50.28 # <[Saint]> Errr....have applications not started already? 22.50.36 # * [Saint] may be insane here 22.50.40 # <[Saint]> (or in general) 22.51.16 # <[Saint]> Oh, no...heck no. 23.07.16 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 23.12.17 Join GeekShadow [0] (~antoine@nzf.turmel.info) 23.12.17 Quit GeekShadow (Changing host) 23.12.17 Join GeekShadow [0] (~antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 23.18.15 # pamaury, is there anywhere I can report the theme bug? 23.18.38 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?type=2 23.18.43 # Should I post it there? 23.19.13 # yes 23.19.23 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.21.03 # <[Saint]> There should already be a task for this bug. 23.23.32 # are you sure? 23.23.35 Quit zaphee (Quit: Leaving.) 23.23.47 # * [Saint] prods lebellium 23.25.14 # <[Saint]> Hummm...maybe someone incorrectly removed it as "fixed". 23.25.48 # My only open bug is FS#12759 . The other has been closed as fixed although I'm not sure it was really fixed :) 23.25.49 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12759 Various RDS issues (Clip Zip, YP-R0) (bugs, unconfirmed) 23.26.15 # <[Saint]> Well, apparently it wasn't, no. :) 23.27.19 # <[Saint]> funman closed it, odd. 23.27.54 # I don't find it, can you please post the link 23.27.57 # serial closer ? :) 23.28.05 # <[Saint]> http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12639 <-- needs to be reopened 23.28.19 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.28.50 # <[Saint]> while the title is specific to lebelliums theme(s), it's all the same bug. 23.29.01 # <[Saint]> themes shouldn;t be able to wipe out USB. Period. 23.29.17 # I guess it has been closed because the "theme loading" issue was fixed. But not the USB connection 23.29.39 # <[Saint]> Raptors reported similar issues to yourself. 23.29.50 # <[Saint]> The theme loaded, but only partitally. 23.29.58 # <[Saint]> And after a reboot, it was "fine". 23.30.07 # <[Saint]> ...but, no USB. :) 23.30.26 # <[Saint]> This is exactly the issue described in your task. 23.30.31 # indeed... 23.31.15 # I haven't experienced the theme loading issue since then so it's strange but that means it does still exist for other themes 23.31.25 # <[Saint]> Can someone with the powers to do so reopen fs#12639 please, so raptors may add to it? 23.31.26 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12639 lebellium Samsung-like theme for Clip Zip: WPS doesn't load properly and USB not working (bugs, closed) 23.33.50 Join saratoga [0] (123e1f35@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.31.53) 23.33.52 # reopened 23.34.21 # saint should probably have permissions to do things like this on the tracker 23.35.40 # <[Saint]> Generally speaking, due to my frequent derp moments...I'm not sure I fit the model. 23.35.53 # <[Saint]> Which is fair. I get it. I'm vacant at times and I understand this :) 23.36.02 # pretty much anything you can do on the tracker you can just as easily undo 23.36.49 # pamaury: does it make sense to post binaries for the XFI3 bootloader soon so that people can use it without needing development tools? 23.36.55 # or is it not ready 23.37.46 # what would make sense would be to add rbutil support (it's exactly the same as fuze+) 23.38.07 # I feel it's better than giving binaries away 23.38.11 # before thats useful we'd still need binaries tagged and on the download server 23.38.47 # that's true 23.38.51 # although if you think the bootloader will need further work, maybe that doesn't make sense yet 23.39.00 # ask Bluebrother about rbutil 23.39.24 # the current bootloader is fine, I'd like to enhance it but it worked perfectly otherwise 23.39.34 # *works 23.39.35 # cool 23.40.44 # I'll post a binary tomorrow then 23.41.00 # on the wiki, or tagged? 23.41.10 # wiki 23.41.23 # when is the next release ? 23.42.08 # <[Saint]> prod AlexP :) 23.42.14 # one week... 23.42.24 # Have a look at the calender 23.42.29 # *calendar 23.42.32 # unless you're going to make the port stable, it shouldn't matter when we release 23.42.50 # <[Saint]> So, we should be in freeze already? 23.43.08 # and yeah, for stable only, o if you are touching stuff that only impacts non-stable targwets, then feel free to ignore it 23.43.11 # [Saint]: freeze in one week 23.43.12 # [Saint]: No 23.43.16 # <[Saint]> Ah, right. 23.43.28 # We have a damn calendar! :P 23.43.30 # great, we can finally make the Zip stable 23.43.44 # and maybe the Fuze+? 23.44.24 # I need to fix some code in RbUtil: the dualboot code, at least for the zenxfi2 and need to double-check zenxfi3. Otherwise yeah i'll tag one when I have the boot menu working 23.44.36 # maybe I should add that to the topic 23.44.49 # is this calendar available to public somewhere? I never saw it 23.44.55 # yes, 23.44.55 # https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=rockbox.calendar@gmail.com 23.44.56 # why is charging listed as "partial" for the ipod 6g? 23.45.13 # <[Saint]> NFI. 23.45.23 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 23.45.27 # should i make it 'yes'? 23.45.51 # https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=rockbox.calendar@gmail.com 23.45.51 Topic "Rockbox 3.12 released | Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | This channel is logged at http://www.rockbox.org/irc | Release/other events calendar:" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 23.45.57 # bugger 23.46.03 # sour 23.46.03 # too long :) 23.46.31 Topic "Rockbox 3.12 released | Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | This channel is logged at http://www.rockbox.org/irc" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 23.46.32 # I would sure like the fuze+ to be stable, but I made lots of changed sinces the last release, so I'm not sure moving to stable now is wise 23.46.40 # *changes since 23.46.53 # <[Saint]> Isn't the touchpad still a bit didgy? 23.47.04 # <[Saint]> (though, that's not a concern for "stable" iiuc) 23.47.10 # <[Saint]> *dodgy 23.48.00 # It's not as great as I would like and there is this annoying issue that if you press a key when backlight is off, it does something strange. But it's so incomparatively better than the OF 23.48.03 # <[Saint]> I played with a Rockboxed Fuze+ the other day, and I was very impressed. My fat fingers disagree with the touchpad, but I wasn't sure if it was it, or me. 23.48.20 # <[Saint]> I have seen others complain similarly, but maybe their fingers are just as fat as mine. 23.49.09 # <[Saint]> I didn't see the issue you noted, but I don't recall locking the thing, so I wouldn't have seen it. 23.49.09 # I created a new task 23.49.09 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12813?project=1&type=2&order=dateopened&sort=desc 23.49.13 # The code is pretty dumb, it really acts as a 3x3 grid 23.49.35 # pamaury, what cats as a 3x3 grid? 23.49.42 # Raptors: The previous one was reopened 23.49.43 # <[Saint]> Raptors: it would be really helpful if you commented in the original task with t alink to your new task. 23.49.47 # <[Saint]> To avoid confusion. 23.49.52 # Why dp we need the new one? 23.49.55 # <[Saint]> The two should really be merged. 23.50.04 # fuze+ touchpad driver in rockbox 23.50.10 # pamaury, o... 23.50.11 # I'll just close the new one, it would be great to add the info to the old one 23.50.14 # [Saint], can you send a link? 23.50.16 # feel free to rename my report if it concerns other themes too 23.50.20 # <[Saint]> I did. 23.50.21 # it doesn't handle gestures if you prefer 23.50.47 # <[Saint]> http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12639 23.50.51 # pamaury, There is so much potential for the fuze+. Circular scrolling would be bad ass. 23.51.01 # no one has the skill or time though :( 23.51.13 # People have the skill alright 23.51.19 # plenty of people have the skill, but yeah time :) 23.51.23 # <[Saint]> pamaury has both....just not in unlimited quantities :) 23.51.25 # If you can do all the rest of Rockbox, you can do that 23.51.30 # The time is the issue 23.51.58 # <[Saint]> Pay pamaury's salary and I'm sure he'll find some more time :) 23.52.01 # [Saint], the last I heard he was busy writing reports so he couldn't do it 23.52.06 # lol 23.52.06 # First we need to make touchpads first class citizens in rockbox, like touchscreen 23.52.12 # lebellium: I'll edit the title of the original task to make it more generic 23.52.25 # AlexP; great :) 23.52.34 # [Saint], thanks, I didn't see the link befoer 23.52.38 # <[Saint]> np. 23.52.48 # But yeah, touchpad seems low priority compared to many things ^^ 23.52.58 # Certain themes cause the WPS to not load properly and USB to not work? 23.53.01 # what is the limitation in terms of rockbox? i figured we could implement gestures in the driver and map them to normal button actions 23.53.37 # pamaury, it should be high priority. A player is only as good as it's controls. 23.53.42 # lol 23.53.56 # well get to work on it 23.54.20 # first issue with this is that then you lack the context, second is that if you do that you have no way to test it on the simulator 23.54.31 # Raptors: People do what they want to 23.54.41 # AlexP, true 23.54.45 # Raptors: You want something done faster, you need to get working 23.54.50 # I agree a great player with poor controls is screwed 23.54.51 # and pamaury is a programmer so he probably knows what's more important 23.55.00 # couldn't we do simple gestures like "swipe left" in just the driver? 23.55.15 # Controls are important indeed :) 23.55.17 # But I wouldn't call the current touchpad driver bad 23.55.45 # pamaury, it's not ideal for a large library 23.55.47 # even simple gestures are not trivial to implement, and debugging is complicated 23.55.59 # ya, that's what sucks 23.56.10 # please try to refrain form things like sucks 23.56.20 # People spend a huge amount of their spare time working on this 23.56.24 # what information does the touchpad give, center of touch and what else? 23.56.33 # It isn't nice to have people then just turn up and announce it sucks 23.56.50 # AlexP, I'm not saying the product sucks. I'm saying the debugging and pain to implement new things sucks 23.56.58 # Cool :) 23.57.08 # saratoga: absolute position of the giver, that's it. It has some "gesture" support but believe me, it's crap. 23.57.11 # There are for sure lots of things that could be improved 23.57.19 # But language is important :) 23.57.20 # *finger 23.57.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.57.47 # pamaury: for simple gestures, i guess the driver could just check if in the last X ticks a certain list of locations had been hit 23.58.15 # pamaury, how does sandisk do their scrolling thing? I know it's pretty terrible but it's at least a decent starting point (if you can recreate it and tweak it) 23.58.36 # Raptors: you've used the sandisk firmware right? 23.58.42 # yes 23.58.45 # it's terrible 23.58.48 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-177.bitnet.nu) 23.58.52 # well thats how they do it then 23.58.54 # badly