--- Log for 20.02.113 Server: pratchett.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 4 days ago 00.03.32 Quit p3tur (Quit: Leaving) 00.08.03 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 00.09.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.18.02 Join froggyman [0] (~me@dhcp-155-92-103-232.nebula.msoe.edu) 00.18.02 Quit froggyman (Changing host) 00.18.02 Join froggyman [0] (~me@unaffiliated/froggyman) 00.18.15 # Here's an usual one 00.18.52 # if I have an album title that has a ":", and I want to add album art to the .rockbox/albumart folder, what do I substitute in the file name for ":"? 00.20.04 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.39.51 Join franta [0] (~quassel@ip-89-102-198-33.net.upcbroadband.cz) 00.41.32 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0/20130212082553]) 00.42.10 Quit Marex (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.42.47 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 00.49.05 Quit Wardo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.49.53 Join Marex [0] (~Marex@195.140.253.167) 00.52.10 Quit ender` (Quit: #define sizeof(x) ((sizeof(x) > 8) ? sizeof(x)+8 : sizeof(x))) 01.00.50 # XFaCE: don't put your AA there, put it as folder.jpg in the same folder as te music 01.00.56 # its easier 01.01.21 # JdGordon: ok 01.04.24 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 01.21.02 Quit franta (Remote host closed the connection) 01.26.24 Quit synergst` (Quit: . o { <('.'<) kirby tires of this nonsense. }) 01.26.52 Join scrts_ [0] (~quassel@2a01:348:70:46:17:57:19:0) 01.27.38 Quit scrts (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 01.28.04 Join Synergist [0] (~synfn@node1.customhost.org.uk) 01.28.04 Quit Synergist (Changing host) 01.28.04 Join Synergist [0] (~synfn@unaffiliated/synergist) 01.28.34 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@50.4.240.19) 01.28.35 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 01.28.35 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 01.39.46 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01.51.35 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 01.55.33 Part mrtux ("Leaving") 01.56.32 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 02.09.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.09.43 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 02.15.14 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 02.24.26 Join SuperBrainAK_ [0] (~Andy@97-124-85-245.phnx.qwest.net) 02.27.29 Quit SuperBrainAK (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.28.13 Join ender| [0] (whatever@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 02.33.40 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 02.46.08 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 02.47.18 # <[Saint]> bluebrother^: "so any file the PC is looking for on it is a file the PC is looking on it" just about made my head explode. :) 02.57.04 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 03.09.26 Join ender| [0] (whatever@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 03.15.18 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 03.28.18 Join ender| [0] (whatever@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 03.38.32 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 03.39.41 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03.40.57 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g224236122.adsl.alicedsl.de) 03.51.21 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 03.53.52 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.56.40 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 04.09.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.09.53 Join ender| [0] (whatever@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 04.11.36 Quit robin0800 (Quit: KVIrc 4.3.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) 04.15.05 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 04.25.13 Quit liar (Remote host closed the connection) 04.27.51 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 04.32.00 # [Saint]: did you happent o get a chance to read the wiki brain dump i wrote up last night? 04.33.44 Join foolsh [0] (~foolsh@nc-76-0-170-211.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) 04.35.13 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 04.46.12 Quit shamus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.47.05 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 04.48.05 Join ender| [0] (whatever@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 04.49.36 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.49.37 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.49.37 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.49.38 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.49.38 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.49.40 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.50.35 # <[Saint]> JdGordon: I haven't read it in full yet, no. 04.53.21 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 04.59.31 Quit efyx__ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 05.02.35 Quit foolsh (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.06.31 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 05.12.13 Join efyx__ [0] (~efyx@91.179.9.65) 05.13.45 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 05.16.36 Join foolsh [0] (~foolsh@nc-76-0-170-211.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) 05.26.59 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 05.35.17 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 05.45.27 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 05.45.36 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.48.32 Join ender| [0] (whatever@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 05.55.17 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 06.07.59 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 06.09.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.11.49 # saratoga: would it be easy enough to get EQ band peak values so we could have a nice eq display on the wps? 06.12.04 # (I may be asking for the wrong thing...) 06.12.38 # * JdGordon is in the fuze OF looking at if it has anything which cant be done in a skin currently 06.13.15 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 06.19.05 Quit nateloaf (Quit: Leaving.) 06.20.46 Quit SuperBrainAK_ (Quit: pbly going to sleep /_\) 06.26.37 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 06.27.30 Part foolsh 06.32.31 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 06.38.37 # * JdGordon just found the code to draw a peak histogram and wonders if that can be WPS-able 06.45.46 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 06.54.41 Quit Rower (Quit: Hmmm...) 06.56.19 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 07.09.39 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 07.15.35 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 07.18.16 Join akaWolf [0] (~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf) 07.28.45 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 07.30.46 Join saratoga_ [0] (123e0cba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.12.186) 07.30.53 # JdGordon: what did you mean? 07.31.29 Join mortalis [0] (~kvirc@213.33.220.118) 07.31.38 # I guess I'm asking if the peak meters can be extendd to more than just left/right 07.33.42 # not sure what you meant by band peak values 07.33.51 # do you mean how much energy is in that frequency band? 07.34.41 # i dont know :) I want to make it possible to have a nice moving display on the wps 07.34.55 # the EQ just defines a filter that modifies the gain for different frequencies 07.35.20 # you could have parallel bandpass filters that use similar settings i guess and use them to assess how much energy there is 07.35.26 # http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/348181/110453279/stock-photo-rainbow-graphic-equalizer-or-spectrum-analyzer-isolated-on-white-background-with-reflection-effect-110453279.jpg 07.35.52 # isn't that what the FFT plugin does? 07.36.57 # yes 07.37.52 # cool (never actually opeend that plugin) I'd like to be able to get the bars values in the wps 07.38.20 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 07.39.47 Quit mortalis (Quit: KVIrc 4.1.3 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 07.41.43 # theres a fair amount of effort involved in calculating those bars 07.42.51 Join mortalis [0] (~kvirc@213.33.220.118) 07.43.16 # oh well 07.44.15 # its probably not too slow to actually calculate, but we don't normally compute that info 07.44.40 # so you have to call the FFT, and then i guess sum different bands so that the log spaced frequencies people here are mapped onto the linear spaced FFT bins 07.46.20 # ok, I guess I assumed it was just some value which could be stored away (or calc-ed pretty cheaply) as the audio is being proceessed anyway 07.46.23 # never mind then 07.46.45 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 07.55.57 # * [Saint] doesn't quite understand the difference between the FFT plugin doing what it does, and doing what the FFT plugin does with some magic tag(s) in the skin engine 07.56.22 # <[Saint]> Surely all the math is pretty much there already? 07.58.10 # <[Saint]> FFT's linear 'bars" display looks like what you'd want. 07.59.25 # <[Saint]> The dullard in me thinks "If that plugin can do it, why can't the skin engine?", but there's likely a lot I'm miassing. 08.00.13 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 08.00.40 # i think the problem is that you could only do that if that plugin where running and producing data 08.00.51 # which would mean having it running in the background somehow 08.01.32 # or i guess compiling it into the skin engine 08.01.58 Quit saratoga_ (Quit: Page closed) 08.03.55 Join mt [0] (~quassel@41.233.148.100) 08.03.56 Quit mt (Changing host) 08.03.56 Join mt [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/mt) 08.06.41 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 08.09.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.11.15 Quit shamus (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 08.12.42 Join franta [0] (~quassel@ip-89-102-198-33.net.upcbroadband.cz) 08.18.42 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 08.22.33 Nick scrts_ is now known as scrts (~quassel@2a01:348:70:46:17:57:19:0) 08.22.37 Quit scrts (Changing host) 08.22.37 Join scrts [0] (~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts) 08.25.17 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 08.26.05 Quit mortalis (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 08.29.29 Quit froggyman (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 08.30.18 Quit franta (Remote host closed the connection) 08.32.04 Join ender` [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.33.57 Join mortalis [0] (~kvirc@213.33.220.118) 08.34.16 Quit mortalis (Client Quit) 08.34.23 Join mortalis [0] (~kvirc@213.33.220.118) 08.36.20 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@sestofw01.enea.se) 08.36.21 Quit Zagor (Changing host) 08.36.21 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.38.44 Join ender| [0] (whatever@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 08.41.36 # * JdGordon thinks he's worked out how to do repeating viewports (for playlist viewer and skin lists) but doesnt know if it is hideous or not :( 08.44.56 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 08.54.11 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 09.07.19 Join ender| [0] (whatever@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 09.12.05 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@host6-106-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 09.13.27 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 09.15.26 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 09.19.15 Quit efyx__ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 09.20.52 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.21.59 Join efyx__ [0] (~efyx@91.179.9.65) 09.26.50 Join ender| [0] (whatever@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 09.29.57 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 09.35.33 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 09.48.52 Join ender| [0] (whatever@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 09.49.53 # <[Saint]> JdGordon: here's a - possibly - good one: Could we get the (file based) album art for the currently selected item in the filebrowser and/or database for use with the sbs? 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11.14.43 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 11.18.24 Join JdGord [0] (~AndChat72@49.176.66.209) 11.20.13 Quit amiconn (Remote host closed the connection) 11.20.13 Quit pixelma (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.20.44 Join pixelma [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 11.20.44 Join amiconn [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 11.25.22 Quit JdGord (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 11.27.59 Join ender| [0] (whatever@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 11.29.37 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 11.36.01 Join JdGord [0] (~AndChat72@49.176.104.154) 11.40.54 Quit JdGord (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11.46.02 Join JdGord [0] (~AndChat72@CPE-58-168-77-87.lns4.ken.bigpond.net.au) 11.49.12 # does the scroll engine use the viewport at all when a line is added? 11.49.57 # JdGordon: yes 11.50.08 # lorenzo92: "just throw it at ida"? 11.50.45 # kugel: hum okay but then I have no clues i.e. no registers address I can recognize :( 11.50.56 # crikey, how on earth does it not crash more often? the viewports coming from the skin engine isnt safeguarded around buflib moves 11.51.09 # perhaps you need to figure out the load address 11.51.10 # I wonder if that has anything to do with the themes randomly being able to break things 11.51.53 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 11.54.40 # kugel: it is 0x1000, but i'm confused whether i need to use it as entry point or load address or so 11.57.32 # kugel: maybe I can simply try using entry point as 0x0 11.58.03 # lorenzo92: load address == entry point for uncompressed images 11.58.48 # 0x1000 seems like an unusual load address though 11.59.40 # lorenzo92: you should probably use 0x0 if the kernel is relocatable but I think that's not that common for ARM system 12.00.17 # indeed, not sure then hum 12.00.35 # neither 0 nor 0x1000 is a valid load address for an ARM linux kernel 12.01.08 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 12.01.30 # the linux boot protocol for ARM assumes there is at least 16KB of memory available below the image 12.01.32 Quit robin0800 (Client Quit) 12.01.36 # The standard place ot load is 32KB into ram 12.01.47 # ie 0x8000 12.02.04 # but anywhere with at least 16KB of free memory below it is possible 12.02.19 # Torne: ahhh right, I had a clue from a bootloader, but no confirmation, thanks, I'll try 12.02.21 # XFaCE: also http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-iriverh300/rockbox-buildap3.html#x19-372000C (last sentence). Or take the manual of the player of your choice 12.02.22 # (it uses that 16kb of memory for initial pagetables and for its stack while parsing ATAGs) 12.02.56 Join Robin0800 [0] (~quassel@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 12.03.21 # XFaCE: last paragraph is what I meant 12.03.27 # also, uncompressed images are not generally a thing 12.03.42 # normally it would be a zImage 12.04.27 # loading vmlinux directly is weird and not really supported 12.04.53 # why should it be unsupported? 12.05.04 # it just is ;) 12.05.12 # the config option allows no compression 12.05.23 # er, what config option? 12.05.26 # Torne: do you mean unsupported by bootloaders? 12.05.27 # Torne: the name is "Image", not compressed, is this a zImage you think? 12.05.43 # JdGordon: i mean unsupported by the Linux kernel developers 12.06.43 # i.e. Z5's bootloader loads this in the ram and then calls it (let me find out where and how) 12.06.44 # I'm gonna go ahead and call bs... we load vmlinux binaries directly at work 12.07.08 # hm, no, it actually doesnt allow that 12.07.15 # unless we're taking the zImage and renaming it vmlinux 12.07.22 # you may well be :) 12.07.41 # the zImage relocates and decompresses itself, the bootloader doesn't have to do anything special 12.07.47 # just load it into ram and jump to the start 12.07.52 # exactly 12.08.04 # it loads at 0x60008000 12.08.13 # this is different to, say, having a compressed uImage which u-boot actually decompresses itself 12.08.15 # where 0x60000000 is the start of the dram 12.08.26 # lorenzo92: right, that's teh standard boot protocol 12.08.36 # i would expect it's loading a zImage, it may not be, but that's the usual way 12.08.41 # so how would you load it in ida? 12.08.52 # lorenzo92: quick test, how big this file is? 12.09.01 # you need to pull the piggy off of it and uncompress the payload ;) 12.09.16 # if it's compressed decompress it manually before loading it in ida 12.09.19 # and work out the address that the decompressed kernel will have been relocated to 12.09.22 # which may not be the same 12.09.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.09.37 # yeah, how big is the binary? 12.09.39 # wodz: ah don't worry it is for sure uncompressed. the recovery blob sent to ram is *compressed* -> ~500 kb; the image on nand is about 1.1 mb 12.09.55 # 1MB is zImage for sure 12.10.05 # what does "file" say it is? :) 12.10.07 # yes, indeed, moreover I have plain strings 12.10.31 # Torne: data, binary file of course 12.10.42 # why "of course"? 12.10.50 # most linux image formats are recognisable by file :) 12.10.53 # zImages are ;) 12.10.57 # ah! 12.11.01 # so it's not actually 12.11.08 # at least, x86 ones are 12.11.11 # i dunno about ARM :) 12.11.12 # file Image 12.11.14 # Image: data 12.11.32 # anyway, if it has strings from the whole kernel then it's uncompressed, obviously 12.11.33 # maybe I place here the link to it? 12.13.32 # JdGordon: anyway, i didn't say it doesn't work :) 12.13.36 # for who's interested: https://www.dropbox.com/s/fiwsaio8us0qa9o/Image 12.13.44 # well, it works on ARM, anyway 12.13.56 # it doesn't always work on x86, because the setup code is doing other things as well 12.14.12 # so then you get into whether your bootloader is loading using linux16 or linux32 12.14.45 # in general you aren't supposed to boot uncompressed images and there's rarely a reason to do so 12.15.03 # (except XIP but that's a different kind of loading altogether) 12.16.07 # I guess here it is done so because of embedded system + startup spee 12.16.08 # d 12.16.18 # booting a zImage is basically always faster, though :) 12.16.36 # the decompression is very cheap; loading an uncompressed kernel from storage is much slower, on almost every system 12.22.07 # loading over TFTP sucks ass! 12.22.20 # loading a 180MB image over TFTP is almost enough to go postal 12.35.17 Quit Robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 12.36.58 Join Robin0800 [0] (~Robin0800@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 12.47.06 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 12.49.06 Quit Robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 12.49.35 Join Robin0800 [0] (~Robin0800@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 12.51.03 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 12.53.27 # kugel: how about just using an extra bit in the line flags to redraw the line selector during the scroll? 12.53.54 # i know it sucks, but I really want to nuke list.c befoe the next release (3.14) 12.54.23 # at which point it would be done much more cleanly 12.55.28 # it looks like there is plnety of bits free in the flags field 12.56.49 Quit Robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 12.57.10 Join Robin0800 [0] (~Robin0800@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 12.57.11 # (the way it would be done much cleaner is having the line selection and other decorations drawn onto the backdrop layer so the scroll engine and all of firmware only deals with the text) 12.57.22 Quit Robin0800 (Client Quit) 12.57.22 # 99% of the UI in the core is the list 12.59.25 Join Robin0800 [0] (~Robin0800@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 12.59.29 Quit Robin0800 (Client Quit) 13.03.25 Join Robin0800 [0] (~Robin0800@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 13.04.06 Join ender| [0] (whatever@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 13.04.15 # So lets write UI in lisp :P list processing is its strength 13.04.39 # no, skin syntax is more readable :) 13.05.21 Quit Robin0800 (Client Quit) 13.17.36 Join Robin0800 [0] (~Robin0800@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 13.22.05 Quit Robin0800 (Client Quit) 13.22.38 Join Robin0800 [0] (~Robin0800@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 13.23.52 Quit Robin0800 (Client Quit) 13.31.24 Join Robin0800 [0] (~Robin0800@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 13.32.15 # no it's not 13.32.30 # it has more different characters 13.32.39 # while lisp has only () 13.33.09 # so to read lisp you need to know less => it's more readable 13.33.46 Quit Robin0800 (Client Quit) 13.34.12 Join Robin0800 [0] (~Robin0800@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 13.34.56 # gelraen: .. ... .. - .-. . .- .-.. .-.. -.-- ..--.. ...-.- 13.35.32 Quit Robin0800 (Client Quit) 13.37.01 Join Robin0800 [0] (~Robin0800@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 13.38.32 Quit Robin0800 (Client Quit) 13.39.02 # 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funman: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12824 (in case you missed it) 17.43.49 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 17.44.47 Quit froggyman (Quit: Leaving) 17.46.55 Join melmothX [0] (~melmoth@unaffiliated/melmothx) 17.47.45 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-177.bitnet.nu) 17.48.05 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 17.51.07 Quit ender` (Quit: I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize.) 17.55.15 # wodz: i had not seen it indeed 17.57.59 # a6409c868663a90673147e6f778ea310f08d4f24 ? 18.00.28 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 18.01.14 Join mt [0] (~quassel@196.218.41.112) 18.01.16 Nick mt is now known as mt` (~quassel@196.218.41.112) 18.06.39 # yeah that's it 18.06.54 # how the hell get back to main menu from WPS in clip zip 18.07.03 # I mean in sim 18.07.40 # wodz: insert 18.07.47 # i found it by looking in uisimulator/buttonmap/ 18.08.14 # wodz: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12824#comment43137 18.08.15 # heh, fft core dump in simulator :-) 18.08.36 # yep, same her 18.08.38 # e 18.08.46 # pfff 18.09.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.12.38 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@50.4.240.19) 18.12.38 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 18.12.38 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 18.12.54 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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I forgot to identify and /nick sorry! 20.00.41 Quit gareth_ (Changing host) 20.00.41 Join gareth_ [0] (~gareth@unaffiliated/gartral) 20.00.58 # nick gartral 20.01.01 Nick gareth_ is now known as gartral (~gareth@unaffiliated/gartral) 20.01.21 # there, no more annoying the other gareth 20.01.26 # gartral: no worries. its rare to encounter another 'Gareth' :) 20.02.00 # scorche|sh: funny enough. 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