--- Log for 28.02.113 Server: pratchett.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 12 days ago 00.01.47 # !seen pamary 00.02.41 # !seen pamaury 00.11.06 # <[Saint]> !annoy pamaury ;) 00.13.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.19.54 # <[Saint]> copper: brainfart about %?in: 00.20.43 # <[Saint]> It may be, that, instead of checking for the presence of the tag - that it's trying to set up a condition against the value returned? 00.21.25 # <[Saint]> like: %?in<0|1|2|3|...> etc. 00.22.10 # <[Saint]> I'm nowhere near anywhere where I can check that out, but the thought occurred to me regardless. 00.27.19 Quit dv_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.34.56 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0/20130220104816]) 00.39.20 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 00.43.29 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 00.44.57 Quit robin0800 (Quit: KVIrc 4.3.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) 00.45.00 Join dv_ [0] (~quassel@chello080108009040.14.11.vie.surfer.at) 00.45.17 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 00.56.14 Quit dfkt (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 01.01.09 # how do I "watch" or "subscribe" to a patch on gerrit.rockbox.org? 01.06.57 # copper: ah crap, I may have broken that on the weekend 01.06.59 # file a bug 01.08.12 # http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=commit;h=a395a34 probably broke oit 01.20.26 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 01.30.17 Quit robin0800 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.45.04 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 02.02.18 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 02.13.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.24.16 # [Saint], are yo a div? 02.24.17 # dev 02.35.23 Join eckoit [0] (~ryan@d173-181-83-119.abhsia.telus.net) 02.46.05 # <[Saint]> Raptors: that depends on your requirement for the title...but, why, anyway? 02.46.44 # was wonder if anything big happened since the last update that boosted the battery life 02.46.53 # (fuze +) 02.47.27 # check the git log 02.47.50 # <[Saint]> What, to you, is "the last update"? Do you literally mean the last commit against HEAD, and the one immediately before it - or? 02.48.21 # <[Saint]> If so, I would say no. But you likely have some other starting point I'm unaware of. 02.49.19 # 189148e-130127 02.52.37 # <[Saint]> the build that's on there now isn't really of any interest at all. 02.52.53 # <[Saint]> I can't answer your question without know what the build on there prior was. 02.52.54 # k 02.55.18 # <[Saint]> the only commit I can see that would make a stand-out improment for that target is http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=commit;h=e9f8846 02.55.24 # <[Saint]> and that was 18th of Jan 02.59.07 # ya, that is the update I was talking about 02.59.14 # I was wonder if there has been anything since then 03.00.04 # <[Saint]> Nothing I can see that should make a notable improvement. 03.00.26 # <[Saint]> CPU scaling is really "the big one", and that's not exactly /recent/. 03.01.51 # <[Saint]> Before that, the CPU was running at full 24/4, allowing boost/un-boost makes a massive difference. 03.02.28 # <[Saint]> Most of the time you'll only be boosting buring decode and buffer, and on UI interaction. 03.03.51 # <[Saint]> There was apparently some other bug with DMA fixed a while ago, but I don't think that would make a "Wow!" kind of improvement to battery life. 03.04.12 # <[Saint]> I suspect the commit you're thinking about is CPU scaling. 03.04.52 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 03.06.13 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03.06.34 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 03.06.45 # yes it is 03.07.10 # I'm on the cpu scaling one and my mp3 player has been running for 31 hours 03.07.16 # a bit more than 31 hours 03.07.23 # ~20% left 03.08.06 # trying to drain the rest of it out to see how long it can run 03.08.54 Join [Saint] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/user/saint) 03.10.36 Part eckoit 03.20.47 # <[Saint]> Hmmmmm... 03.21.28 # <[Saint]> Using 'Settings -> Manage Settings -> Reset Settings' can cause some pretty awesome graphical glitches. 03.22.37 # <[Saint]> It seems it'll either mess up the font (random glyphs get swapped out with garbage), or screw up the icons (random icons are scattered with garbage), or both, or neither. 03.22.54 # screeeenshots! 03.23.47 # <[Saint]> The test case is vanilla HEAD on an iPod Color - with an absolutely clean install on a newly formatted disk. 03.28.58 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 03.31.20 Join [Saint] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/user/saint) 03.43.45 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 03.44.00 Quit bluebrother^ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 03.45.03 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g224237119.adsl.alicedsl.de) 03.45.46 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 04.13.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.20.04 Quit Rower (Quit: Hmmm...) 04.20.07 Join eckoit [0] (~ryan@50.65.10.24) 04.39.37 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.39.37 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.39.39 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.39.45 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.39.45 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.39.48 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.49.45 # this thing wont run out of juice lol 04.49.49 # ~33 hours 04.49.59 # then again, there is no screen usage 04.50.05 # I guess this is somewhat normal 04.51.22 # <[Saint]> The "fat" Classic is a beast in that regard. Even with the original CE-ATA HDD. 04.51.33 # how long? 04.51.37 # <[Saint]> It gets around ~40-50hours 04.51.42 # damn 04.51.52 # Is it bad to draint all the battery? 04.51.55 # <[Saint]> With an SSD, it's just silly :) 04.51.59 # almost all* 04.52.24 # <[Saint]> No, Rockbox will shutdown within a safe operating range. 04.54.13 # <[Saint]> We wouldn't be deliberately doing anything that was unsafe. It's absolutely fine to run the player until it shuts down, and then do either a full or partial charge, and do it again. Just the same as it is absolutely fine to charge the battery whenever you please. 05.01.39 # <[Saint]> As far as I am aware, the only thing you need to avoid wrt: battery care - is storing the battery while it is deep discharged, or at full charge. 05.02.30 Quit knittl (Read error: Operation timed out) 05.03.27 Quit efyx__ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 05.04.37 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@2001:470:c807:0:1532:4e5f:2ad3:4123) 05.05.29 Quit simabeis (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 05.16.33 Join efyx__ [0] (~efyx@91.179.0.37) 05.16.39 Nick [Saint] is now known as sinner (~quassel@rockbox/user/saint) 05.16.44 Nick sinner is now known as [Saint] (~quassel@rockbox/user/saint) 05.18.31 Join knittl [0] (~knittl@ssh.fumuga.com) 05.18.31 Quit knittl (Changing host) 05.18.31 Join knittl [0] (~knittl@unaffiliated/knittl) 05.18.57 Join simabeis [0] (~simabeis@lobmenschen.de) 05.20.34 Nick [Saint] is now known as [Saint_] (~quassel@rockbox/user/saint) 05.20.37 Nick [Saint_] is now known as [Saint__] (~quassel@rockbox/user/saint) 05.20.41 Nick [Saint__] is now known as [Saint___] (~quassel@rockbox/user/saint) 05.20.51 Nick [Saint___] is now known as [Sinner] (~quassel@rockbox/user/saint) 05.20.51 DBUG Enqueued KICK [Sinner] 05.20.54 Nick [Sinner] is now known as [Sinner_] (~quassel@rockbox/user/saint) 05.20.54 DBUG Enqueued KICK [Sinner_] 05.21.32 Nick [Sinner_] is now known as [Saint] (~quassel@rockbox/user/saint) 05.21.32 DBUG Enqueued KICK [Saint] 05.21.32 *** Alert Mode level 1 05.26.16 Nick SuperBrainAK is now known as [Sinner] (~Andy@71-36-160-229.phnx.qwest.net) 05.26.38 Nick [Sinner] is now known as [sinner] (~Andy@71-36-160-229.phnx.qwest.net) 05.26.46 Nick [sinner] is now known as Guest52942 (~Andy@71-36-160-229.phnx.qwest.net) 05.27.02 Nick Guest52942 is now known as SuperBrainAK (~Andy@71-36-160-229.phnx.qwest.net) 05.28.02 Quit SuperBrainAK (Quit: pbly going to sleep /_\) 05.31.33 *** Alert Mode OFF 05.37.57 Quit TheSeven (Read error: Operation timed out) 05.40.29 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.48.36 Part zamboni 05.54.50 Nick froggyman is now known as froggymana (~me@unaffiliated/froggyman) 05.56.21 Nick froggymana is now known as froggyman (~me@unaffiliated/froggyman) 05.59.54 Quit mikroflops (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06.03.16 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@h-34-210.a238.priv.bahnhof.se) 06.13.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.17.56 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 06.28.34 Join sarg [0] (~sarg@89.169.51.37) 06.32.23 # JdGordon: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12836 06.33.03 # ta 06.57.54 # copper: fixed 06.58.07 # well, reverted the change 07.00.45 Join melmothX [0] (~melmoth@unaffiliated/melmothx) 07.06.03 Join akaWolf [0] (~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf) 07.23.31 Join olspookishmagus [0] (~pookie@host-84-205-241-1.cpe.syzefxis.ote.gr) 07.38.29 Quit froggyman (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 07.49.02 Join ryuo [0] (~ryuo@unaffiliated/ryuo) 07.49.43 # What are the main advantages of rockbox over stock firmware for fully supported devices? 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11.01.09 # sarg: what you mean? In flash? or in general? 11.01.15 # in flash 11.02.02 # i found that FlashData.bin is really the same DRAM init procedure 11.02.27 # and I made success in disassembling FlashBoot.bin, it is just kernel loader + FTL 11.02.39 # I didn't try because I didn't implement ftl yet. I chain load my loader from original one currently. 11.02.49 # so, I am thinking that u-boot is possible on my device 11.03.15 # Once I rework ftl there will be no technical barrier to flash custom loader 11.03.29 # also, there is guy who soldered serial cable for his device, and I got full logs of device boot 11.03.37 # you were right, rk30usbplug is fallback mode 11.05.31 # FTL depends on how NAND is wired with SoC ? 11.06.07 # no 11.06.38 # so, isn't it possible to find FTL in some linux kernel sources for similar NAND chips ? 11.06.43 # This is abstracting layer which presents underlaying flash as pure block device. 11.07.25 # The layout is 100% arbitrary choice 11.08.10 # you know flash are block erasable and page writable, you need to make write leveling etc. 11.08.40 # this is MUCH different to the expectations of block driver layer 11.09.41 # The thing is that ftl driver needs to be somewhere in this kernel sources (or should be rather). Its just that it can be in binary form 11.10.09 # i am hoping I could get FTL from linux sources, I am tired of this disassembly shit 11.10.20 # rk28xx kernel sources I saw have ftl part as source and rk29xx kernel sources provided only .o object 11.11.12 # It may be as well they dropped their custom ftl and used something standard on your platform 11.11.21 # do you know if IDA can generate C pseudocode for ARM> 11.11.24 # ? 11.12.25 # yes it can if you have such module installed (IIRC you need ida > 6.0 for this and decompiler module for arm of course) 11.12.54 # i got 6.1 and hex-rays plugin 11.13.08 # thats separate AFAIK 11.13.16 # it generate pseudocode for x86, but not for arm 11.14.48 # https://www.hex-rays.com/products/decompiler/index.shtml 11.19.06 # sarg: If I were you I would try to figure out where from ftl functions come in linux sources for your platform. 11.19.54 # sarg: start from reading rk3066-kernel/drivers/mtd/rknand/* 11.21.19 # but I guess the sources are incomplete as there is no ftl.h file which is referenced in nand_config.h 11.22.00 # OR they used include/linux/mtd/ftl.h 11.22.07 # so something standard 11.24.15 # ok, when I get bootrom i will dig into u-boot and ftl 11.26.02 # as for IDA, seems my setup does not contain hex-rays ARM decompiler\ 11.27.44 Quit zchs (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 11.28.21 # wodz: do you have such plugin? 11.28.46 # no 11.40.18 Join kaputnik__ [0] (~kaputnik@ip-217-18-181-130.static.reverse.dsi.net) 11.46.08 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 12.01.13 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 12.01.39 Join Wardo [0] (~Mirandaha@88.162.4.186) 12.03.15 Join b4980 [0] (84980@79.117.211.64) 12.05.38 # JdGordon: I confirm that it works now 12.05.44 # %?in 12.05.49 # hello 12.06.06 # is there any way i can get the starfield demo running on my pc? 12.06.35 # using windows 12.08.00 # i've tried using the classic screensaver but it's not as good 12.08.32 Nick namnuf is now known as funman (~fun@altair.via.ecp.fr) 12.09.02 Nick funman is now known as Guest57148 (~fun@altair.via.ecp.fr) 12.09.45 Nick Guest57148 is now known as punman (~fun@altair.via.ecp.fr) 12.09.49 Quit punman (Changing host) 12.09.49 Join punman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 12.11.20 Quit DexterLB (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.12.10 # If you mean as a screensaver, you can't 12.12.26 # not as a screensaver 12.12.36 # You can run a rockbox simulator on windows, which will have the plugins 12.12.52 # that's perfect 12.13.13 # can you show me where to get it? 12.13.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.13.30 # http://rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/ 12.13.43 # thank you very nice :D 12.15.02 Quit robin0800 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.15.18 Quit scorche (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.15.25 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 12.15.35 Nick punman is now known as funman (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 12.15.36 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 12.15.57 # and is there any way I could make it bigger? 12.16.17 # the simulators are designed to simulate a specific device with a specific screen size 12.16.36 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@79-100-25-191.btc-net.bg) 12.16.47 # oh alright 12.18.23 # You can always look how it is coded and port it as native app. This should be fairly trivial. 12.18.49 # yeah it's kind of out of my league 12.18.54 # There's --zoom, but that won't look very nice 12.19.16 # i know 12.19.40 # so i suppose the demo is also coded for the certain resolution 12.19.49 # no 12.20.04 # our devices have many different resolutions 12.20.37 # it's *coded* to run on whatever, but any given copy of it is *compiled* for just one resolution 12.21.20 # yeah but just as a rockbox file right? 12.25.54 # what would i need to get/learn in order to get it to work on windows with high res? 12.26.49 # i'd really love to use this into some visuals 12.27.10 # to understand our code you need to know C 12.27.59 # :( 12.28.42 # i know the basics of pascal but i doni can't go much further 12.28.48 # i don't think i can go* 12.28.51 # oh well 12.29.04 # thanks for clearing this for me anyway :) 12.41.17 Quit kaputnik__ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 12.49.22 Quit Wardo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.54.15 Join kaputnik__ [0] (~kaputnik@ip-217-18-181-130.static.reverse.dsi.net) 13.02.28 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 13.09.58 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-177.bitnet.nu) 13.30.52 Join funman_ [0] (~fun@altair.via.ecp.fr) 13.31.03 Join Barahir_ [0] (~Barahir@fb08schindler24.anorg.chemie.uni-giessen.de) 13.31.08 Join makoto_ [0] (~makoto@ludgate.privmsg.me.uk) 13.31.08 Join melmothX_ [0] (~melmoth@93-137-139-59.adsl.net.t-com.hr) 13.34.48 Join eckoit_ [0] (~ryan@50.65.10.24) 13.35.43 Quit kaputnik__ (*.net *.split) 13.35.43 Quit melmothX (*.net *.split) 13.35.43 Quit eckoit (*.net *.split) 13.35.44 Quit funman (*.net *.split) 13.35.44 Quit Barahir (*.net *.split) 13.35.44 Quit makoto (*.net *.split) 13.35.45 Nick eckoit_ is now known as eckoit (~ryan@50.65.10.24) 13.42.33 Join kaputnik__ [0] (~kaputnik@ip-217-18-181-130.static.reverse.dsi.net) 13.51.51 Quit pxb^ (Quit: leaving) 14.03.26 Join pxb^ [0] (pxb@winesap.2yp.org) 14.03.42 Quit pxb^ (Client Quit) 14.05.36 Quit pxb (Disconnected by services) 14.13.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.14.01 Join pxb [0] (pxb@winesap.2yp.org) 14.25.51 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 14.31.59 Join evilnick_ [0] (538a2493@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.138.36.147) 14.37.07 Quit sarg (Quit: leaving) 14.47.50 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 14.52.23 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 14.55.46 Join Wardo [0] (~Mirandaha@bpb01-1-88-162-4-186.fbx.proxad.net) 15.01.16 Quit olspookishmagus (Quit: All for nothing) 15.23.17 Quit mikroflops (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 15.23.41 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@h-34-210.a238.priv.bahnhof.se) 15.36.22 Join knittl [0] (~knittl@ssh.fumuga.com) 15.36.23 Quit knittl (Changing host) 15.36.23 Join knittl [0] (~knittl@unaffiliated/knittl) 15.36.33 Quit knittl (Client Quit) 15.37.01 Join knittl [0] (~knittl@ssh.fumuga.com) 15.37.02 Quit knittl (Changing host) 15.37.02 Join knittl [0] (~knittl@unaffiliated/knittl) 15.38.42 Quit mortalis (Quit: KVIrc 4.1.3 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 15.40.50 Quit knittl (Client Quit) 15.41.04 Join knittl [0] (~knittl@unaffiliated/knittl) 15.41.58 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 15.46.34 Quit kaputnik__ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.04.50 Part eckoit 16.13.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.23.26 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 16.25.59 Nick funman_ is now known as funman (~fun@altair.via.ecp.fr) 16.28.00 Quit b4980 () 16.29.31 Quit Wardo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.36.18 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:27:773:0:feed:c0f:fee) 16.37.23 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 16.38.30 Quit dfkt (Remote host closed the connection) 17.04.17 Join icarus1040 [0] (~ckegman@c-68-44-181-119.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 17.05.14 Part icarus1040 17.27.26 Join kaputnik__ [0] (~kaputnik@port-92-206-45-79.dynamic.qsc.de) 17.40.34 # Hello everyone, I've just installed Rockbox on my Sansa Clip Zip :) 17.44.33 # congrats 17.56.24 # Are directory ##MUSIC## and ##PORT## in the root of my Sansa Clip Zip created by Rockbox? 17.56.35 # *directories 17.57.15 # no, that's where the original firmware stores stuff 17.57.29 # it doesn't show them, but they always existed :) 17.57.36 # if youd elete them they will just get recreated every time you boot the OF 17.58.22 # if you're annoyed by seeing them, mark them as hidden from a PC and rockbox won't show them either unless you set "SHow Files" to all 18.02.37 # Torne: how do you do that on linux? 18.03.40 # i think if you mount with the right options the archive/hidden/system bits get exposed as extended attributes 18.03.47 # If not, mtools 18.03.58 # and you can manipulate them with fattr 18.04.01 # or,yea, mtools 18.04.03 # Of course, getting mtools to work properly is an art in itself :) 18.04.18 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 18.04.18 Quit n1s (Changing host) 18.04.18 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 18.06.08 # is pamaury on vacation? 18.06.32 # Torne: ok, thanks. So can I remove all the directories listed here → http://paste.debian.net/238875/ ? 18.06.56 # I've already make a backup 18.07.20 # you can remove anything you like other than the rockbox directory 18.07.26 # perfect 18.07.33 # but, many of those will be recreated if the original firmware ever rus, which you will find you probably end up doing sometimes 18.07.42 # so, it's usually easier to just hide them 18.08.31 # I don't think to use the OF, I'm happy with Rockbox 18.09.00 # i didn't mean you would *use* it :) 18.09.29 # people often need to boot it to recover from breaking something in rockbox, or similar, as it provides USB access that isn't so easily taken out by a mistake ;) 18.10.12 # does anyone else use pitch/semitone/timestrech for listening to podcasts? im trying to find good settings without making the podcast sound like chipmonks 18.11.12 # ah, I see thanks. Then I'll hide the directories 18.13.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.14.47 # <[Saint]> Grrrrrr... 18.15.07 # I can also hide the files MTABLE.SYS, RES_INFO.SYS, SYS_CONF.SYS, UPGRADE.FIN, version.sdk, DID.bin, in the root, and I will always can boot the OF, right? 18.15.12 # yup 18.15.16 # <[Saint]> WHy the frig is precut not defines in eq_mehu.h nicely like the other eq things are :-S 18.15.23 # Scall: the OF doesn't need any files on the disk to boot at all 18.15.30 # they ar ejhust saved settings, caches, etc 18.15.46 # the firmware is in a part of the flash that's nt part of the filesystem. 18.15.51 # (as is the Rockbox bootloader) 18.17.31 # <[Saint]> Who feels like enlightening me as to how I might be able to get 0.1dB stepping for the precut value as opposed to 0.5dB? 18.17.59 # <[Saint]> I _think_ I should be looking around line 64 of eq_menu.c, but, I don't really understand what's happening there. 18.18.55 # <[Saint]> No, hum....shit, I dunno. 18.22.11 # <[Saint]> ah, way off track. 18.23.00 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.23.10 # [Saint]: why do you want that? 18.23.16 # Torne: ok, thanks again. Now I'll put some music on my player and go run with Rockbox :) 18.23.57 # bye 18.24.03 # <[Saint]> n1s: I dropped the Q and gain min_step to 0.1dB, for...fun, and because I can. 18.24.15 # <[Saint]> But now the precut menu doesn't match. 18.24.27 # uh, ok 18.25.41 # <[Saint]> It's kinda ridiculous to believe that most targets and gear would be sensitive enough for even 0.5dB incrementing, but....hey - why not? 18.26.27 # some dacs even have 1.5dB volume steps :) 18.26.39 # <[Saint]> May as well add it to my other slew of eq-related patches that ren't being committed ;) 18.28.38 # <[Saint]> I figured it out, by the by, I forgot it's easiest to track down menu functions by the lang string instead of looking where you'd think they were :) 18.28.49 # <[Saint]> Some of the menu related files are a bit...scattered. 18.31.49 # <[Saint]> git stash && git pull --rebase && git stash pop 18.31.55 # <[Saint]> bah 18.34.57 Join froggyman [0] (~me@50.105.148.129) 18.34.57 Quit froggyman (Changing host) 18.34.57 Join froggyman [0] (~me@unaffiliated/froggyman) 18.44.41 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 18.48.26 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.02.51 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 19.04.00 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@2602:306:250d:8809:225:d3ff:fed6:15a) 19.25.19 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 19.32.46 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@93.190.93.215) 19.33.49 Join hype [0] (~hype@82.199.174.16) 19.42.52 Quit evilnick_ (Quit: Page closed) 19.43.49 Quit hype (Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]) 19.47.34 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.47.57 Join thegeek [0] (~thegeek@95.34.37.222) 19.52.09 Join pxb^ [0] (pxb@honeycrisp.2yp.org) 19.58.46 Join zamboni [0] (~bottledwa@unaffiliated/zamboni) 20.01.29 Join kingler [0] (~kvirc@5.254.135.102) 20.02.03 # Hi. Can you set rockbox to mount file system as read only, so it is impossible to delete files on the mp3 player? 20.03.30 Quit kingler (Client Quit) 20.04.34 Join kingler [0] (~kvirc@5.254.135.102) 20.04.41 # sorry 20.05.26 # kingler: no, although that might be a reasonably easy code change 20.05.45 # Hm, wait 20.05.49 # I know how to do it on the computer's side with linux 20.06.07 # add 'ro' to the options column in /etc/fstab 20.06.14 # maybe that will work 20.06.17 # Do you want it to be read-only over USB, or in the rockbox UI? 20.06.24 # in the rockbox UI 20.07.01 # Right, that might be more complicated 20.07.31 # You probably don't want full read-only, because that will break settings and things like resuming playback when restarting 20.07.44 # well 20.07.47 # read only for the microSD 20.07.54 # Ah, right. Easier again :) 20.07.54 # because all music is there 20.09.08 # well there is no /etc/fstab file 20.09.31 Join hype [0] (~hype@82.199.174.16) 20.09.59 Part LinusN 20.10.36 # where? 20.10.55 # If you mean on Rockbox, then no of course not 20.10.57 # You'll need code changes, but the easy way would be something like returning immediately from the write function in the sd driver if the drive is microsd. That means you can't write over usb either, and that if you try to write things might crash, but you won't be able to write there from the UI :) 20.11.04 # For a start, it isn't linux :) 20.13.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.15.38 # <[Saint]> Yeah, pretty sure copper was on another planet doing an impersonation of me there ;) 20.15.48 # what 20.16.02 # <[Saint]> your /etc/fstab comment. 20.16.06 # ok 20.16.16 # "on the computer's side with linux" 20.16.21 # Was fairly clear to me :) 20.16.48 # <[Saint]> Grrrrr... 20.16.49 # ok 20.16.51 # me too 20.16.54 Ctcp Ignored 3 channel CTCP requests in 41 seconds at the last flood 20.16.54 # * [Saint] stabs quassel in the face 20.17.12 # <[Saint]> I have no such line here. 20.17.19 # <[Saint]> But, it's clearly visible in the weblogs 20.17.25 # * [Saint] apologizes 20.17.29 # this isn't the first time this happens 20.18.23 # <[Saint]> No, you're right, but I've wiped out my core since the last instance of it occurring. I'm not sure what to look for. 20.18.58 # <[Saint]> It's difficult/impossible to tell if I'm missing any information from my logs alone without comparing them to known complete logs. 20.19.14 # znc gives me backlogs 20.19.17 # <[Saint]> I've bugged quassel people about this but it's shrugs all round. 20.20.44 # <[Saint]> For the most part, it's ok, but ever so often someone references something that's nowhere to be found in my logs. 20.21.22 # well can you hide the Files option 20.21.26 # topic chaps 20.21.26 # from the main menu? 20.21.37 # kingler: yes, the main menu is customisable 20.21.40 Quit shamus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.21.43 Quit djp_ (Quit: leaving) 20.21.44 # via the config file 20.21.47 # ok thanks 20.21.49 # Should be in the manual 20.22.37 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 20.22.56 # You'll still be able to delete stuff from the context menu though 20.27.06 Quit dfkt (Remote host closed the connection) 20.34.14 # * [Saint] now has what is quite possibly the most foolishly unnecessarily adjustable EQ for a DAp on the face of the earth 20.35.01 # <[Saint]> frequency, gain, precut, and q, all adjustable by 0.1dB increments. 20.35.11 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 20.35.57 Quit dv_ (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 20.36.51 # what button do you press tos ave settings? 20.36.55 # to save settings 20.37.43 # <[Saint]> They're saved as they're selected. 20.37.52 # ok 20.37.53 # got it 20.38.05 Quit akaWolf (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 20.38.41 # <[Saint]> if you change a value and then exit the screen without it being saved you'll see a "cabcelled" splash. 20.38.52 # <[Saint]> *cancelled too 20.39.04 Join djp_ [0] (djp@fsf/member/djp-) 20.40.52 # * [Saint] wonders if it might be useful to make the stepping for EQ adjustment user-adjustable. 20.41.35 # <[Saint]> (being able to select increments between 0.1 and NdB for gain, precut, etc. 20.41.37 # <[Saint]> ) 20.41.42 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 20.41.58 # <[Saint]> Screw it...it's something to do. 20.42.26 # <[Saint]> Hmmmmm..... 20.42.52 # <[Saint]> Shouldn't the context menu action for the main menu's "System" item be Rockbox Info or so? 20.43.11 # <[Saint]> Instead of going to the totally unrelated Settings - General Settings - System sub? 20.43.44 # * [Saint] prods a non-yet-woken JdGordon about this 20.44.50 Join SuperBrainAK [0] (~Andy@71-36-160-229.phnx.qwest.net) 20.45.07 # <[Saint]> JdGordon: (logs) another thing I wanted to poke you about - why can't I add any given menu entry to the shortcuts list? This drastically decreases its usefulness. 20.46.34 # <[Saint]> Say, for instance, I wanted ready access to the sound settings - the best thing I could do is navigate to the sound settings through every sub-menu and manually add each and every setting to the shortcuts lists - instead of just being able to ass "Sound Settings" which would be infinitely more useful IMO 20.46.52 # <[Saint]> whoops. 20.46.57 # <[Saint]> *s/ass/add/ 20.48.26 # <[Saint]> Long story short, the only thing you shouldn't be able to add to the shortcuts menu is the shortcuts menu itself. Make it so. :P 20.51.11 Quit kingler (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.54.38 Join eckoit [0] (~ryan@96.53.108.182) 20.54.45 Join kaputnik_ [0] (~kaputnik@port-92-206-14-138.dynamic.qsc.de) 20.57.54 Quit kaputnik__ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20.58.55 Quit mrkiko (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 21.00.45 Join mrkiko [0] (~mrkiko@interdet-lsp.org) 21.02.47 Quit eckoit (Quit: eckoit) 21.08.20 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.09.19 Join Wardo [0] (~Mirandaha@88.162.4.186) 21.20.56 Quit thegeek (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 21.29.40 Join thegeek [0] (~thegeek@222.37.34.95.customer.cdi.no) 21.59.12 Quit melmothX_ (Quit: #) 22.03.33 Quit hype (Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]) 22.13.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.13.48 Join lebellium_ [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 22.15.40 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 22.15.42 Nick lebellium_ is now known as lebellium (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 22.18.39 Join r0b- [0] (~rob@unaffiliated/r0b-) 22.18.51 # can rockbox tell me how much current the mp3 player is pulling off a charger? 22.22.52 # nvm it cant. 22.22.52 Part r0b- ("Leaving") 22.31.50 # JdGordon, without permissions? 22.32.31 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@62.83.50.196) 22.33.23 Quit y4n (Quit: PANTS OFF!) 23.12.12 Quit amayer (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23.19.51 Join lebellium_ [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 23.21.12 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 23.21.15 Nick lebellium_ is now known as lebellium (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 23.33.06 Join dv_ [0] (~quassel@chello080108009040.14.11.vie.surfer.at) 23.39.58 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.44.42 Quit desowin (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23.45.12 Join eckoit [0] (~ryan@96.53.108.182) 23.49.50 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 23.50.32 Quit dv_ (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 23.51.42 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0/20130220104816]) 23.52.51 Join [Saint] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/user/saint)