--- Log for 29.03.113 Server: hitchcock.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 days and 13 hours ago 00.00.02 # global_stack 100000 = 0x6fb4a0 00.04.17 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 00.04.32 # stack used: 10796 00.04.43 # Appears to be the actual peak usage for this file. 00.16.23 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.17.22 # scorche|sh: I'm ready to mentor, I confident i'll have some time for it, I didn't developed my projects on the ML but we talked about it on IRC and I have a pretty clear idea about the usb audio/mtp projects. 00.23.45 Join froggyman [0] (~me@unaffiliated/froggyman) 00.25.40 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 00.28.53 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 00.49.59 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.50.03 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0/20130325214615]) 00.52.34 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@h242.176.123.208.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) 00.54.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.56.31 Join takeyourhatoff [0] (~takeyourh@31.185.177.212) 00.57.14 # I have a clip + with rockbox. When I add albums to my play queue using the context menu, it adds the tracks alphabetically rather than in track number order, how can I fix this? 01.09.47 Quit kaputnik_ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01.14.48 Quit ender` (Quit: The first 90% of the code accounts for the first 90% of the development time. The remaining 10% of the code accounts for the other 90% of the development time.) 01.25.06 # So I run the rockbox utility, and its asking me for the drive letter of my sansa. 01.25.17 # But it doesn't have a drive letter, its showing up as a media device? Am I missing something? 01.25.40 # Also, if I hit autodetect, it crashes. 01.28.28 Join Provel_ [0] (~Provel@75-132-18-44.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 01.31.08 Quit Provel (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 01.39.38 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 01.43.57 Join RiD [0] (~RiD@bl22-152-89.dsl.telepac.pt) 01.44.07 Quit krabador (Client Quit) 01.59.18 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.03.58 Quit SuperBrainAK (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.10.14 Join eyfour [0] (~a4@40.84-49-109.nextgentel.com) 02.12.03 Quit eyfour (Client Quit) 02.54.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.18.54 Join soldicon [0] (~soldicon@unaffiliated/soldicon) 04.02.22 Join advcomp2019__ [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 04.02.55 # godzirra: may need to put your sansa into usb disk mode instead of the other one 04.04.33 Quit advcomp2019_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.05.05 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 04.23.41 Join SuperBrainAK [0] (~Andy@ip72-208-205-205.ph.ph.cox.net) 04.35.31 Join zamboni [0] (~bottledwa@unaffiliated/zamboni) 04.37.00 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.37.00 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.37.03 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.37.08 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.37.08 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.40.59 Quit RiD (Quit: if you do not want to slip, avoid slippery places) 04.54.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.03.05 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 05.17.16 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@pD9FBB41B.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.20.53 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 05.23.45 Quit knittl (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 05.23.52 Join knittl [0] (~knittl@ssh.fumuga.com) 05.23.52 Quit knittl (Changing host) 05.23.52 Join knittl [0] (~knittl@unaffiliated/knittl) 05.34.14 Quit Rower (Quit: Hmmm...) 05.48.51 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 05.49.01 Join [7] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.55.32 Join akaWolf [0] (~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf) 06.00.11 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:27:773:0:feed:c0f:fee) 06.01.10 Quit dfkt_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.02.01 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 06.02.19 Join dfkt [0] (OxO29A@unaffiliated/dfkt) 06.03.23 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@f053152022.adsl.alicedsl.de) 06.04.31 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 06.05.14 Quit SuperBrainAK (Quit: pbly going to sleep /_\) 06.36.17 # Triffid_Hunter: Let me figure out how to do that. Thanks. 06.37.32 Quit LjL (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.41.02 # Triffid_Hunter: Now it tells me my mount point is wrong, evne though mountpoint says "D:\(SANSA CLIPZ)" 06.41.12 # oh crud. It disconnected. 06.44.22 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 06.47.38 Join LjL [0] (~ljl@unaffiliated/ljl) 06.52.12 # I've got it now. Thanks for the advice. 06.54.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.57.04 # godzirra: yw, good luck :) 07.00.59 Join mortalis [0] (~kvirc@213.33.220.118) 07.15.31 Join pfifltrig [0] (~b812acac@www.haxx.se) 07.17.15 Quit pfifltrig (Client Quit) 07.18.03 # Hrm. 07.18.08 # I plug in usb and it doesn't connect to my PC 07.18.15 # then when I unplug, I get an illegal instruction error 07.18.18 # and have to hard power off. 07.18.29 # Huh 07.18.31 # worked that time. 07.18.32 # that was odd. 07.19.40 Quit Belzebub (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.19.54 Join Belzebub [0] (~torrentow@elite.kablownia.org) 07.20.33 # Triffid_Hunter: Other than the .rockbox directory, does directory structure matter? 07.20.43 # FOr some reason it put my stuff in ##MUSIC# 07.21.04 # I nuked ##MUSIC# and made Music instead 07.21.08 # awesome. 07.22.37 # Now if I could just figure out a good way to export playlists out of itunes, or to write my itunes ratings to the actual mp3. 07.22.41 # so I don't lose all my ratings. 07.34.06 Quit froggyman (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 07.37.25 Quit zamboni () 07.50.56 Join ender` [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 07.56.02 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.18.37 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@ip-213-124-221-122.ip.prioritytelecom.net) 08.32.36 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 08.44.26 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 08.45.49 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 08.54.00 Quit esperegu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.54.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.54.27 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@ip-213-124-221-122.ip.prioritytelecom.net) 08.57.25 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 09.03.33 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 09.17.48 Join webguest27 [0] (~8be42a31@www.haxx.se) 09.19.31 Quit webguest27 (Client Quit) 09.22.29 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 10.08.43 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10.40.31 Join kaputnik_ [0] (~kaputnik@p5DD9DBB2.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.53.13 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.54.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.01.55 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 11.04.21 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 11.04.57 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@host17-111-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 11.09.15 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 11.14.13 Join ender| [0] (~ender1@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 11.15.45 # pamaury: ping 11.20.45 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E42EA0.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.22.08 # I have a clip + with rockbox. When I add albums to my play queue using the context menu, it adds the tracks alphabetically rather than in track number order, how can I fix this? 11.29.27 Quit esperegu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.31.46 # pamaury: could you please add your gsoc project idea(s) and yourself as a mentor to http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SummerOfCode2013 ? 11.34.23 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@ip-213-124-221-122.ip.prioritytelecom.net) 11.36.01 Quit efyx (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 11.43.06 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11.47.22 # <[7]> pamaury: FYI, I found a little bug in the IN non-DMA case 11.47.56 # <[7]> the line that checks for whether the TX fifo empty IRQ on the endpoint should be masked should check for xfersize, not pktcnt 11.49.01 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@159.129-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 12.16.06 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.16.33 Join ender| [0] (whatever@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 12.25.33 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.39.31 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.213.176) 12.54.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.11.20 Join desowin_ [0] (~desowin@pandora.barbara.ds.polsl.pl) 13.14.33 Quit mortalis (Quit: KVIrc 4.3.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) 13.17.25 Join mortalis [0] (~kvirc@213.33.220.118) 13.31.22 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 13.51.03 Quit mortalis (Remote host closed the connection) 13.53.06 Join mortalis [0] (~kvirc@213.33.220.118) 13.53.42 # kugel: pong 13.53.59 # kugel: ok i'll do that 13.56.02 # do we have mentors for all those projects on the wiki page ? 13.57.58 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 13.58.32 # pamaury: it was you who suggested the usb soundcard idea on the mailing list? I have just written basic information about that in the wiki, if you could have a look that would be great 13.59.05 # I doubt it. We know the candidate mentors, and we more or less know who's good at what, so it should be possible to figure this out 14.02.19 # ok 14.02.51 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 14.03.06 # i'll usb mtp also if nobody objects 14.05.41 # *i'll add 14.06.01 # * gevaerts nods 14.06.07 # kugel: gevaerts: should I add myself as mentor for other projects I can mentor ? 14.06.21 # It can't hurt, anyway 14.06.25 # So I'd say yes 14.15.29 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-177.bitnet.nu) 14.17.59 Join ender| [0] (whatever@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 14.22.00 # I've completed the usb audio project, now the MTP one... 14.38.38 # scorche|sh: I created a application draft, can you have a look over it? 14.38.43 # or anyone else 14.39.10 # I only added a small section about gsoc 2011 compared to the 2011 application 14.39.39 # I wonder if we should mention that our org shouldn't be considered as large anymore 14.44.12 # kugel: I propose that if scorche|sh doesn't wake up at least two hours before the deadline (19:00 UTC, or 20:00 for us), one of us gets to be admin 14.44.22 # We can always rearracnge things later if needed 14.45.56 Quit tchan (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0) 14.46.54 # gevaerts: okay 14.54.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.59.29 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@c-69-243-144-187.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 14.59.29 Quit tchan (Changing host) 14.59.29 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 15.03.15 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 15.04.09 Join froggyman [0] (~me@unaffiliated/froggyman) 15.05.38 Quit pretty_function (Remote host closed the connection) 15.12.12 # I've written the usb mtp projects. Can people read the usb audio and usb mtp projects and tell me if they feel the description is sufficient 15.13.45 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E42EA0.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.24.21 Quit subthalamus (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 15.27.57 Quit mortalis (Quit: KVIrc 4.3.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) 15.28.29 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 15.31.23 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 15.39.24 Join subthalamus [0] (~chatzilla@bou57-1-78-247-40-105.fbx.proxad.net) 15.44.51 Join CXIV [0] (4dfed5f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.254.213.245) 15.45.10 # Hello 15.45.31 # How change max volume limit on rockbox? 15.45.42 # Because I want to set volume for kids 15.45.48 # I mean , max volume. 15.46.15 # You can set the EQ precut 15.46.37 # No , they are smart enough to change that 15.46.38 # :) 15.46.46 # Is there any CFG I can edit? 15.48.58 # I found something like this http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomConfigFile 15.50.22 # as far as I know we don't have such a setting and if we did it would be in the settings menu, maybe someone can confirm 15.53.31 # Too bad 15.53.40 # No. EQ precut is the setting to use for this 15.54.15 # I want to set this in CFG file :) 15.54.18 # And yes, we do object to settings that don't appear in the menu :) 15.57.20 # So any other ideas? 15.58.13 # appart from a custom build I don't see any way to achieve that, why do you want to achieve that in the first place and why do you think your kids would change the eq precut ? 15.59.09 # Because they like to listen music very loud 15.59.34 # I don't want to limit it much 15.59.53 # But you see , -10 db on rockbox is VERY loud 16.00.02 # Depends on the audio files too 16.00.25 # I set up replaygain. 16.00.27 # Also the headphones and the player, of course 16.00.35 # So -25 db will be enough 16.01.22 # It's sansa zip 16.01.43 # with replaygain on, and sensitive IEMs, I set the volume at -9 dB 16.01.46 # I know that there is sort of limit option in official firmware 16.02.04 # (with EQ on too, which reduces the level further by about 6 dB) 16.02.06 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.214.104) 16.02.22 # CXIV: yeah but I don't think it's password protected 16.02.30 # I'd say different headphones are the *best* solution (no software workaround then!), but if not, and you *don't* want to use a visible setting, a custom build is your only real option 16.02.53 # CXIV: give them some AKGs, those are less sensitive than most headphones 16.03.05 # about 10 dB less sensitive 16.03.14 # dB/mW* 16.03.41 # Of course, you could also set it *louder* for a while, and then their own natural volume limiter will kick in :) 16.04.19 # Better not :) 16.04.35 # Thanks for help anyway :) 16.04.45 Quit CXIV (Quit: Page closed) 16.07.25 Quit lorenzo92 (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 19.0.2/20130307122903]) 16.08.46 Join ender1 [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 16.10.49 Quit ender` (Read error: Operation timed out) 16.20.24 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16.28.32 # kugel: gevaerts: i am heading to work soon - while there, i will get some work things done and then work on the org app - i thought about things last night, and there are a few places where i might be able to improve our chances for success 16.28.47 # Great! 16.30.07 # what's the org app? 16.35.03 Quit Belzebub (Changing host) 16.35.03 Join Belzebub [0] (~torrentow@unaffiliated/blown-engine) 16.35.12 # copper: summer of code organization application 16.35.27 # ach so 16.35.51 # hmm 16.35.52 # btw 16.36.15 # How come the Rockbox simulator is way faster than the Android simulator? I guess it doesn't try to emulate actual ARM code? 16.36.41 # It's a not an emulator :) 16.36.47 # simulator is, as it says, is simulator 16.40.04 # I see 16.41.17 # the Android emulator is hopelessly slow here, and Asus disabled the virtual machine CPU feature on my laptop (whatever it's called) 16.41.26 # VT something 16.41.43 # That aside though, I strongly suspect a rockbox emulator would still *feel* faster than an android emulator; Our UI was designed for a 12MHz SH CPU 16.45.46 # well 16.45.58 # the Android emulator is okay-ish with low res devices 16.54.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.55.17 # hmm, 4.2.2 is faster 16.57.18 Join SuperBrainAK [0] (~Andy@ip72-208-205-205.ph.ph.cox.net) 16.58.04 # much 17.05.44 # a far cry from last time I tried (a couple years ago) 17.05.54 # having a better CPU helps, too 17.06.52 Quit esperegu (Read error: Operation timed out) 17.09.43 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 17.20.48 Quit pretty_function (Remote host closed the connection) 17.24.22 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E42EA0.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.28.51 # * scorche|sh registers to be an admin and will then look at making more changes to the org app 17.29.12 # kugel: did you use the most recent org app, or lastlast year's? 17.32.03 # i am assuming the latter... 17.33.31 # scorche|sh: 2011 17.33.44 # thats the most recent one 17.33.50 # for us... 17.33.52 # yeah - i am re-doing the application 17.34.24 # I copied the wiki page, I didn't actually visit the application page yet 17.34.33 # * scorche|sh nods 17.34.40 # the org app has changed in a number of ways 17.36.44 # oh, look - i just got a meeting request for an hour from now 17.36.48 # * scorche|sh gets busy 17.43.06 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 18.00.17 # Should I add a "android native ui" project? the problem is that our code base is badly prepared for such a project 18.01.58 # I think we all want that, but nobody is really clear about how much work that is and to what degree existing code can be re-used or refactored 18.04.17 # up to you =) 18.05.49 # I think we need some g) 18.06.31 # I think we need some prerequisite work, such as playback engine separation 18.07.12 Quit froggyman (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 18.09.13 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 18.17.09 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.17.39 # kugel: gevaerts: big edit up for review... 18.18.08 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@ip-213-124-221-122.ip.prioritytelecom.net) 18.18.22 # kugel: I want playback engine separation for non-android purposes, actually :) 18.23.48 # gevaerts: kugel: please review my changes =) 18.24.01 # Reading now :) 18.26.42 # scorche|sh: there are still some "we hope to ..." bits in the descriptions of older years 18.27.00 # "hope to see it included in ffmpeg" for a 2007 project may not be that wonderful :) 18.28.11 # Similar for USB "which has now been enabled in SVN for all builds" 18.28.15 # feel free to change it =) 18.28.18 # OK 18.28.21 # i didnt focus too much on that 18.28.29 # where? 18.29.15 # kugel: the bit about previous results. It looks like they were mostly added to over the years, which means older entries are now a bit weird sometimes 18.29.23 # yup 18.29.32 # that can certainly use some cleanup 18.30.21 # oh the wiki didnt make a new revision 18.30.38 # * gevaerts is editing now 18.30.46 # kugel: hrm? 18.31.17 # Has saratoga been a mentor? 18.31.27 # * gevaerts can't remember, but he thinks so... 18.32.25 # gevaerts: yes - in 2011 18.32.28 # OK 18.32.52 # Students becoming mentors are worth pointing out I think :) 18.34.34 # scorche|sh, kugel: done 18.34.59 # Apart from that, I didn't spot anything obvious 18.35.04 # scorche|sh: I had looked at r2 earlier with less changes 18.35.36 # Do we have mentors for codec work? 18.35.45 # I don't think so 18.36.26 # could ask stripwax or n1s, but neither are particularly active these days (altough stripwax replied on a gerrit ticket recently) 18.38.01 # kugel: yeah - it folded them in since there wasnt another edit in between 18.38.03 Join melmothX [0] (~melmoth@unaffiliated/melmothx) 18.38.43 # it would be nice to get more mentors on there, yeah 18.38.58 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.214.104) 18.39.35 # kugel: I'd say there is a strong overlap between "Improved codec and playback module separation" and "Rockbox Playback Test Driver" 18.40.30 # I'd drop "Audio codec optimisation" and "Improved video playback" due to no available mentors 18.40.40 # agreed 18.41.05 # Multiple/Relocatable Plugins, Clean up the radio code, ARM Emulator, and Apple/Sandisk/etc Various Docks, Remotes, Accessories may need some thinking 18.41.08 # gevaerts: I'm happy to mentor folks for any of the Xiph codecs (particularly Opus). 18.41.09 # gevaerts: yea, there is some overlap 18.41.17 # but they're not the same :) 18.41.27 # Though I probably shouldn't be the only mentor. 18.41.51 # no one should be an only mentor ;) 18.42.19 # OK, so I'll leave opus in for now :) 18.42.42 # gevaerts: relocatable should probably be dropped, 90% of it is on gerrit 18.43.08 # Yes. I think it mainly needs finishing, new toolchains for some CPUs, and someone to decide :) 18.45.05 # Do we still care about the CD emulation? 18.45.11 # Well, did we ever, really? :) 18.45.33 # I think it's a nice project regardless 18.45.48 # OK 18.46.19 # the TTS one should be cleared up w.r.t. to the licensing problem 18.46.22 # OK, so I've removed the things we agreed on, and added Opus, although that one needs some detail 18.46.25 # Trye 18.46.53 # also can't memory fragmentation due to small allocs be solved, e.g. with some buddy-allocator-kind of thing? 18.47.40 # * gevaerts doesn't know 18.47.53 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E42EA0.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.48.07 # I'd say the safe approach would be espeak 18.48.08 # the red text seems discouraging (regardless of the engine) for the proposal, but it's probably one of the projects we want most 18.49.02 # looks like "you dont actually want this project!" 18.49.08 # A bit, yes 18.49.46 # * kugel goes to eat 18.49.51 # IIRC the radio one was always a bit doubtful. I vote we drop it 18.50.00 # kugel: we have one hour to finish this :) 18.50.26 # I'm also unsure about mentors for the ARM emulator and the docks 18.50.35 # gevaerts: kugel: which one of you will be backup admin for now? (I can always make Zagor one later 18.50.55 # Feel free to add me 18.50.56 Join B4gder [0] (~daniel@213-65-164-159-no63.tbcn.telia.com) 18.50.56 Quit B4gder (Changing host) 18.50.57 Join B4gder [241] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 18.50.59 Join Bagder_ [0] (~daniel@213-65-164-159-no63.tbcn.telia.com) 18.51.00 # ok 18.51.13 Quit Bagder_ (Client Quit) 18.51.55 # Can someone provide a few lines about Opus optimisation? derf? 18.52.41 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 18.52.51 # i am going to submit the application now - I can always edit it before the deadline 18.52.57 # OK 18.54.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.56.40 # gevaerts: you need to register a profile at https://google-melange.appspot.com/gsoc/profile/org_admin/google/gsoc2013 18.57.27 # scorche|sh: done 18.57.36 # * gevaerts likes pre-filled forms :) 18.58.21 # "Data saved successfully." 18.58.51 # gevaerts: I am once again failing to register on the wiki. 19.00.20 # derf: maybe it's best if we just handle things here for now. I can do the actual editing 19.00.24 # One hour to go :) 19.00.26 # derf: I have 19.00.29 # "Rockbox has had support for the new Opus codec in development builds since the official release of the Opus codec by Xiph.org, and in stable releases since 3.13, but although some optimisation work has been done, more work is needed to make Opus support usable on slower devices" now 19.01.33 # That might be enough for now 19.06.27 # kugel, desowin_: can you add your name to various projects you're willing to mentor? 19.08.13 # derf: what will your wiki name be as soon as you do manage to register? 19.10.28 # gevaerts: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2257213 19.10.32 # gevaerts: TimTerriberry 19.11.32 # Thanks! I'll add you as a candidate mentor then :) 19.12.33 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 19.13.22 # Ok, done 19.13.24 # gevaerts: Okay, it's stopped accusing me of cross-site scripting attacks. 19.13.34 # Can you add me to the WikiUsersGroup? 19.13.46 Quit melmothX (Read error: Operation timed out) 19.15.21 # Done! 19.15.49 # Thanks. 19.17.24 Join melmothX [0] (~melmoth@unaffiliated/melmothx) 19.22.03 Quit melmothX (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.24.12 Join melmothX [0] (~melmoth@unaffiliated/melmothx) 19.31.52 Quit pretty_function (Remote host closed the connection) 19.38.59 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 19.49.04 # kugel, desowin_: ping 19.51.53 # gevaerts: done 19.52.07 # Great! 19.52.33 # Shall we remove the dock/remote one? 19.52.54 # i guess if we have no mentors 19.54.44 # * gevaerts nods 19.54.51 # I'll remove it. We can always add it back later 19.55.37 # ok, all set I think :) 19.55.42 # dont want to remove too many things.. 19.55.59 # scorche|sh: we have ten ideas now 19.56.43 # and I'm confident we can find a decent mentor for all of those 19.57.00 # ok 20.05.21 # gevaerts: heh, you subscribed as potential mentor for all projects but the USB ones (USB being one of your expert fields)? 20.07.11 # well, we are officially applied now... 20.07.48 # scorche|sh: \o/ 20.08.23 Quit takeyourhatoff (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 20.09.08 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 20.11.48 # cool that we managed it 20.12.12 # well, we havent yet...lets see what happens with the acceptance process 20.12.30 # managed to apply, I mean. We had to rush a bit :) 20.21.54 Join takeyourhatoff [0] (~takeyourh@topaz.feralhosting.com) 20.22.03 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.22.21 Nick takeyourhatoff is now known as Guest65295 (~takeyourh@topaz.feralhosting.com) 20.35.21 # kugel: those are clearly pamaury's :) 20.46.26 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@h242.176.123.208.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) 20.50.31 Quit Guest65295 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.54.22 Quit esperegu (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 20.54.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.06.06 Join Guest65295 [0] (~takeyourh@31.185.177.212) 21.07.29 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@188.146.177.186.nat.umts.dynamic.t-mobile.pl) 21.11.08 # I can comment a bit about TTS engines. espeak port is pretty easy. flite is also possible but with substantially more effort. 21.11.47 # flite mem demand is quite high (in rockbox context) so it could run only on highmem targets 21.14.04 # Statement about espeak license issue being resolved is not quite true. We agreed that GPLv3 plugins are ok if there will be clear mechanism to make pure v2+ build (aka configure option to disable v3 plugins). We never agreed to include v3 code in core. 21.14.29 # Hmm 21.14.37 # I had a different understanding :) 21.14.49 # You have to be able to build without it, yes 21.14.58 # But that should be straightforward 21.16.26 # The thing is that the v2+/v3 distinction is really only important if people exercise their right to get the source, in which case you get v3 source if at least one line of code the binary was built from is v3. If you just download the source without formally asking for it, you get whatever gpl version each file is 21.16.34 # So you'd get mostly v2+ 21.31.40 # wodz: I thought the mem demand is managebale from the total mem usage pov, but the main problem is htat small allocations are all over hte place 21.32.12 # It's hard to say, really 21.32.28 # We never saw much code, and he disappeared without really telling us much IIRC 21.32.43 # yea 21.33.03 # I did some work with flite and I am quite confident that it will work on some of our targets. 21.33.33 # Anyway, the most important project is the UI/playback split :) 21.34.45 # The main obstacle I hit was the size of const resources. In flite this are part of binary not the separate, loaded at runtime resources. Plugin buf is simply too small to handle this. 21.35.06 # Ah, and I didn't know about overlays this days 21.37.01 # is flite itself large? 21.37.48 # there was no mention about this in the student's reports 21.38.31 # oh, I'm wrong. 21.38.50 # " 21.39.10 # he mentioned a multi-megabyte binary 21.39.34 # It is. But as I said this is due the way it handles phonomes data. The data are provided as const arrays not as loadable modules. 21.39.47 # I thing the binary is like 3-4MB 21.40.18 # It can be changed but this needs quite some work 21.41.50 Quit akaWolf (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.49.24 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 21.54.58 Quit B4gder (Quit: It is time to say moo) 22.00.48 # im not sure if it matters much but i am working on a lot of themesite changes(functionality more then design). i saw it was mentioned on the GSoC page. 22.18.25 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 22.43.22 Quit melmothX (Quit: ronf) 22.47.38 Quit ender1 (Quit: I believe in free will, but I don't really have a choice.) 22.54.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.57.17 Join MarcAndersen [0] (~no_znep@167.147.189.109.customer.cdi.no) 23.17.02 Quit SuperBrainAK (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.18.00 Join tjb0607 [0] (~tjb0607@208.100.172.134) 23.21.39 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.26.18 Join zamboni [0] (~bottledwa@unaffiliated/zamboni) 23.27.13 Join Ward [0] (~Mirandaha@176-120-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) 23.27.37 Nick Ward is now known as Guest20426 (~Mirandaha@176-120-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) 23.37.33 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E42EA0.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.41.20 # Why are the windows simulators for 3.13 not up on www.rasher.dk yet? 23.44.42 # MarcAndersen: forgot about it, I'm building them now 23.45.10 # Rasher: Ok. Are you from denmark like me? 23.46.02 # I am 23.46.49 # hmm, that reminds me 23.46.56 # Ok, nice, and thanks for the simulators, I love them 23.49.14 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.54.36 Quit Belzebub (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23.55.10 Join Belzebub [0] (~torrentow@elite.kablownia.org)