--- Log for 16.05.113 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: Guest94238 Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 7 hours ago 00.00.01 # whee! 00.00.54 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 00.01.37 # (after correcting paths for aapt and dx in android/android.make, and shoving that apkbuilder script in the SDK/tools directory) 00.08.58 Quit y4n (Quit: only amiga makes it possible) 00.09.11 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Vamoose!) 00.17.06 Quit neozen (Quit: Leaving) 00.20.05 Join hype [0] (~hype@82.199.174.16) 00.27.14 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00.36.09 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 00.39.03 Nick soap__ is now known as soap (~soap@cpe-174-102-96-10.woh.res.rr.com) 00.39.20 Quit soap (Changing host) 00.39.20 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 00.45.23 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130506154904]) 00.49.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.55.07 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 01.35.17 Quit pystar89 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01.37.56 Join webguest17 [0] (~d4b3da8a@www.haxx.se) 01.38.30 Join SUPERBRAINRULES [0] (~Andreas@97-124-89-59.phnx.qwest.net) 01.38.57 # hi! 01.39.12 # how do i compile a rock file? 01.39.27 # i can compile rockbox 01.39.46 # but i dont know how to compile a single file 01.40.16 # i am a a programer but new in ubuntu 01.41.43 # you can't. it's 'make bin', 'make rocks', 'make codecs' 01.42.23 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 01.43.53 # you mean i can only compile all the rock files? 01.53.24 Join saratoga [0] (123e1cf8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.28.248) 01.53.30 Quit liar (Remote host closed the connection) 02.01.10 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 02.06.29 # webguest17: aye 02.08.51 # ty 02.09.11 # another question 02.09.34 # can i edit the main menue in rockbox 02.09.50 # i want to remove radio from the menue 02.11.32 # you can modify the appropriate c file but menus are not configurable and it has been agreed they shouldn't be 02.11.56 # its just for my kid 02.12.44 # you can actually remove items from the very top level menu 02.12.54 # its in the manual 02.12.56 # which will bel appropriate c file ? under "firmware" 02.13.00 # ? 02.13.19 # saratoga: wow, news to me even, lol 02.16.02 # apps 02.18.06 # main? 02.18.41 # ok! ive got it root_menu 02.22.19 Quit ur725 (Quit: Leaving) 02.24.08 # http://www.reactiongifs.com/tag/orson-welles/ 02.35.00 Quit liar (Quit: huiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii) 02.35.08 # <[Saint]> So, its no secret I'm not much of a sound guy, so. Does a precut of -6dB == the equivalent of 0dB at full volume if +6dB is the max? 02.35.31 # <[Saint]> Or, does it just not work like that and it'd clip past 0dB regardless of the precut anyway? 02.39.17 # That's the way I thought it works, but I'm no expert either. 02.48.05 Join fordcars [0] (46538c30@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.70.83.140.48) 02.48.13 Part fordcars 02.48.19 Join fordcars [0] (46538c30@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.70.83.140.48) 02.50.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.53.49 # <[Saint]> Llorean: errrr, just to be specific, which? The former, or the latter? 02.54.03 # <[Saint]> That it works as I expected, or that it'll just clip anyway? 02.54.37 Quit shamus (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.56.33 Quit SUPERBRAINRULES (Quit: pbly gone to sleep (-.-)Zzz...) 02.59.32 Quit mc2739 (Quit: leaving) 03.00.23 # +6dB is over-unity 03.00.57 # so, precut -6 will net +0 03.03.46 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 03.20.44 Quit thegeek (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.20.47 # that'll lower the amplitude by a factor of 2 digitally, and then raise it by a factor of 2 after the DAC (in analog) 03.30.05 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 03.35.57 # there are two things I don't grok in that, saratoga. 03.36.18 # 1 - won't it lower it by (roughly) a factor of 4? 03.36.35 # 2 - and what's this about it raising it again in the analog domain? 03.36.56 Join pystar89 [0] (~pystar89@ip-109-90-154-150.unitymediagroup.de) 03.43.41 Join saratoga_ [0] (123e1c0f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.28.15) 03.44.07 # soap: it'll raise the amplitude 2x and the power 4x 03.44.13 # since power is amplitude squared 03.45.57 # its why theres two formulas for dB, 20*log10(voltage) and 10*log10(power) 03.47.07 # analog gain just means it turns the power up on the amplifier, whereas digital means the the bits are shifted over 1 place so that the DAC produces a smaller voltage 03.48.19 # lowering the digital gain makes sense if you're going to then apply some digital effect that will increase the level (say positive EQ) and you want to make sure you don't clip 03.48.24 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 03.50.24 # i guess there isn't ever really a reason to need postive analog gain in rockbox, but its handy if you don't feel like enabling the EQ precut or replaygain just to raise the level of some quiet tracks 03.55.06 # ok, saratoga, question 1 answered. 03.55.18 # question 2 of mine apparently wasn't worded well. 03.55.24 # Let me rephrase: 03.56.33 # "What I get get from your original response is that using the -6db precut trick will in and of itself lower it 6dB in the digital domain AND raise it back up 6dB in the analog domain". Is that what you were trying to say? 03.57.19 # no the precut lowers it 6dB, then the volume setting raises it back up 6dB 03.57.31 # so there is no net change in volume 03.59.36 # so an iPod at volume 6 outputs the same voltage as an ipod at volume 6 with a precut of -6? 03.59.47 # (which was [Saint]'s query) 04.00.53 # yeah 04.01.13 # oh wait no 04.01.49 # that wasn't his question 04.02.06 # he asked if -6dB then +6dB = 0 dB 04.02.32 # right 04.02.44 # and you appear to be saying that the precut does not accomplish that 04.02.50 # an ipod at +0dB, +6dB will have 2x the amplitude (or clip trying) 04.04.28 # "that'll lower the amplitude by a factor of 2 digitally, and then raise it by a factor of 2 after the DAC (in analog)" 04.14.19 Quit n17ikh_ (Changing host) 04.14.19 Join n17ikh_ [0] (~n17ikh@unaffiliated/n17ikh) 04.15.40 Nick n17ikh_ is now known as n17ikh (~n17ikh@unaffiliated/n17ikh) 04.24.14 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.24.15 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.24.17 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.24.21 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.24.21 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.24.24 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.41.08 Quit hype (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 04.41.48 Quit fordcars (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - 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You could get an exact match but the suggestion fails to do that. 10.58.15 # yes, i remember, i will do it later today 10.58.19 # to be honest I didn't care too much because rockbox uses 44100Hz for virtually anything ^^ 10.58.39 # * ukleinek checks HW_FREQ_44 10.59.39 # interestingly I recall writing some code to find the value best values (with brute force) and concluded that the values of the datasheet were indeed the best, maybe my memory is faulty 10.59.51 # pamaury: datasheet -> 44100.23040647722, with s/37/38/ 44099.913867355725 11.00.27 # pamaury: I was thinking about the way to recover your rk27generic DAP. The easiest way seems to be this http://mympx.org/forum/support-how/42981-rockchip-rk27sdk-recovery-guide.html 11.00.47 # wodz: thanks, i'll have a look 11.01.01 # ..ooOO(much homework for pamaury :-) 11.02.08 # pamaury: The other possibility I can think of is to overwrite nand loader with the image grabbed from my DAP. 11.02.08 # ukleinek: are you sure there is no trick like dividing by SRC_FRAC+1 instead of SRC_FRAC ? 11.02.28 # pamaury: also I wonder why dacssr doesn't just contain a u32. 11.02.43 # pamaury: The downside is that I am not quite sure in which way ftl is screwed so I don't know if this will work at all 11.03.25 # because it's more complicated than just a divider, you can adjust oversampling in the internal paths for example and there are fractional dividers 11.03.47 # pamaury: the files for RM970 should work (at least I think so) 11.04.36 # output_sample_rate = (6x10^6 * BASEMULT) / (SRC_INT.SRC_FRAC * 8 * SRC_HOLD + 1)) 11.05.37 # = 75e4 * basemult * (1 << 13) / ((SRC_INT << 13) + SRC_FRAC * (SRC_HOLD + 1)) 11.06.35 # well, I screwed the parens 11.07.20 # 44100.23040647722 11.07.20 DBUG Enqueued KICK ukleinek 11.07.20 # 44099.913867355725 11.08.30 # ok, i'll have a look at this later, i'm quite busy at the momentn and i'll tell you if I confirm or if I found an error :) 11.08.45 # pamaury: very appreciated 11.09.16 # if you understand some of the audioout parameters, I am very interested because I can't get rid of background noise/hiss on the fuze+ 11.13.15 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 11.13.15 # * ukleinek works on http://www.amazon.com/Chumby-Industries-CHB802XXXX-one/dp/B0030QUU4M/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_t 11.14.20 # ukleinek: I have a chumby infocast 3.5" ! I've begun a rockbox port, not finished though 11.16.26 # pamaury: my formula is: 11.16.30 # div13 = SH_DIV(750000 * basemult, outrate * (hold + 1), 13); 11.16.30 # divfrac = div13 & ((1 << 13) - 1); 11.16.30 # divint = div13 >> 13; 11.17.07 # ukleinek: I just dug out of my hard drive this code I told you about to find the best dividers: https://gist.github.com/pamaury/5590501 11.17.23 # You can have a look at it while i'm busy, maybe you'll find my error or yours or none ^^ 11.18.09 # pamaury: /me takes a look 11.18.27 # I wrote it two years ago or so, I don't remember any of it 11.23.56 # you're using unshifted integer math, so 44100.23040647722 and 44099.913867355725 is both 44100 for you 11.26.56 # ok 11.27.05 # make sense 11.39.59 # pamaury: http://paste.debian.net/4505/ 11.41.29 # what is UWE ? 11.41.46 # pamaury: my first name 11.41.52 Quit mortalis (Quit: KVIrc 4.3.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) 11.42.11 # ok ^^ thanks 11.42.19 # i'll need to update the table in our code then 11.43.27 # in return I'll copy from rockbox instead of a vendor kernel from the middle age 11.44.26 # I'm interested in some feedback about anti-pop code, the best way I found was this delay before unmuting. Also my code doesn't handle the speaker yet 11.44.51 # ok 11.45.50 # but i have a device with a speaker 11.46.17 Quit efyx__ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 11.47.28 # pamaury: /* minimum is -100dB and max is 0dB */ 11.47.28 # vol_l = MAX(-200, MIN(vol_l, 0)); 11.47.43 # there is a mismatch between comment and code, isn't there? 11.49.10 Join efyx__ [0] (~efyx@208.220-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 11.50.03 # ukleinek: no no ^^ the hardware has half-db precision 11.52.05 # basically internally rockbox uses thenth-of-db and uses a function (tenthdb2master) to go from tenth-of-db to internal representation, my internal representation is in half-db so *2 basically 11.52.20 # might be a bit confusing 11.52.36 # * ukleinek nods 11.53.10 # also I suggest you have a look at the code on my personal branch here: https://github.com/pamaury/rockbox-1/tree/imx233-renaming 11.53.34 # it is more up-to-date and will eventually find its way to the trunk, it is a major rework of the port in many ways 11.53.43 # audioout is not that different though 11.53.56 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host250-198-dynamic.32-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 11.53.56 Quit krabador (Changing host) 11.53.56 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 11.53.57 Quit krabador (Excess Flood) 11.54.11 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 11.54.11 Quit krabador (Excess Flood) 11.54.28 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host250-198-dynamic.32-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 11.54.28 Quit krabador (Changing host) 11.54.28 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 11.54.29 Quit krabador (Excess Flood) 11.54.35 # pamaury: s/biais/bias/ still exists in the rewrite 11.54.52 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host250-198-dynamic.32-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 11.54.52 Quit krabador (Changing host) 11.54.52 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 11.54.53 Quit krabador (Excess Flood) 11.55.18 # bias you mean ? 11.56.15 # ah ok, understood ^^ thanks 11.56.21 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host250-198-dynamic.32-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 11.56.21 Quit krabador (Changing host) 11.56.21 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 11.56.22 Quit krabador (Excess Flood) 11.56.35 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host250-198-dynamic.32-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 11.56.35 Quit krabador (Changing host) 11.56.35 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 11.56.36 Quit krabador (Excess Flood) 11.56.44 Mode "#rockbox +o Torne" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 11.56.53 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host250-198-dynamic.32-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 11.56.53 Quit krabador (Changing host) 11.56.53 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 11.56.54 Quit krabador (Excess Flood) 11.57.16 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host250-198-dynamic.32-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 11.57.16 Quit krabador (Changing host) 11.57.16 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 11.57.17 Quit krabador (Excess Flood) 11.57.41 Mode "#rockbox +b krabador!*@*$##fix_your_connection" by Torne (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 11.58.06 # freenode is magical 11.59.00 # Torne: because they kicked him before you issued the command? 11.59.02 # ukleinek: also, very very very important, maybe you can help me on this point 11.59.15 # pamaury: what is IMX233_SUBTARGET? 11.59.41 # magic value to handle stmp3600, stmp3700 and stmp3780/imx233 at the same time, for your purpose, IMX233_SUBTARGET would be 3780 12.00.12 # ok 12.00.37 # no, because $##fix_your_connection is a neat trick that most ircds don't have :) 12.00.38 # if you look at pcm-imx233.c, you'll notice a comment about dma channel, that's something I never sorted out: it seems that if the audioout is running and you reset the dma channel, it just breaks everything and you are good for a complete audioout reset. Maybe i'm missing something 12.00.46 Mode "#rockbox -b krabador!*@*$##fix_your_connection" by Torne (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 12.01.19 # pamaury: will keep that in mind. 12.01.28 # in theory it would only clear RUN and thus clkgate audioout as datasheet says but in practice that's not what happen on my device 12.01.49 # (and this is not the only explain of this problem) 12.01.51 # *example 12.09.12 # ukleinek: last piece of advise, maybe your are aware of it. 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I'll just add a function to jump to a random position. 17.39.53 # should be simple enough. 17.40.21 # hmm .. unless I can make it loop while holding the down button. 17.41.26 # takes about 6s to scroll to the bottom with my current settings. 17.42.16 # and the probability of hitting something at the end (other than the very last item) is far lower than hitting something at the start, assuming my selection from 6s is uniform. 17.42.25 # (because of acceleration) 17.43.12 # actually, maybe it'd be nice to change the default behaviour of the current item. 17.43.40 # meh, probably not. 17.44.28 # was going to say: instead of going back to when leaving the randomly selected artist, go back to the artist (item in the Artists list) 17.48.30 # ukleinek: so maybe my comment is right and I made a mistake when writing the value 17.50.03 # copper: ping 17.50.44 # pamaury: hai 17.51.14 # can you do a build with a modification and check if the background noise is gone on the fuze+ ? 17.51.28 # compile you mean? 17.51.45 # turns out I didn't set a build env for rockbox after all 17.51.58 # I just used your compiled rockbox.sansa 17.52.22 # hum ok, then I'll try to send you one later to compare 17.52.33 # cool 17.52.47 # ukleinek: apparently this is a mistake since in trunk I set it to 1 and not 3 17.53.18 # pamaury: also, http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=100682&hl= 17.53.37 # some EEs concluded SOMETHING that I'm not sure I understand 17.55.33 # I think the conclusion is, the noise exists, but it's below 16bit noise floor 17.55.46 # but because of IEM high sensitivity, it's audible 17.56.06 # I still have a hard time wrapping my head around the idea that I'm hearing anything below 16 bit noise floor 17.56.42 # doesn't really compute 17.57.21 # i can hear something too 17.57.34 # pamaury: re your rate setting values, I think the relevant difference between your and my version is just that I round in the computation of src_frac 17.57.40 # If I correctly this maybe be related to the voltages ? 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(husvagn@v-413-alfarv-177.bitnet.nu) 23.06.42 # pamaury: do you have the hardware reference manual? 23.07.02 # Yes 23.07.06 # * ukleinek has Rev 1 from 11/2009 23.07.11 Quit amayer (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.08.10 # pamaury: see page 1220 23.08.15 # actually I have two versions of it: rev 1 11/2009 and rev 4 03/2009 23.08.33 # wow, why I don't have rev4? 23.08.45 Quit Galois (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 23.09.02 # because it's difficult to find and it's actually pretty confusing since it's doesn't look like a rev 4 to me 23.09.49 # what about page 1220 ? 23.10.15 # I can send you the rev 4 if you want 23.10.26 # page 1220 describes pops 23.11.59 # yes and there is page 1230 but if you can make any of those techniques work, please tell me 23.12.42 # I personally find it dubious to have one anti-pop procedure described in a reserved bit and the one in audioout talking about rtc persistent bits which really seem unrelated 23.12.48 Quit madcat1990 (Quit: Leaving) 23.14.30 # and there is an inconsistency in the datasheet: it says you must ramp the volume but volume starts in a state which means "zero" and explicitely states and go in/out of it will cause a pop 23.15.05 # s/and/that if you 23.15.32 # actually even with lowest volume, unmuting will cause a pop on my fuze+ iirc 23.17.13 # * ukleinek would be happy to hear a pop, so I cannot say anything yet 23.18.46 # your driver doesn't work ? 23.19.14 # correct 23.19.50 # random things to check: ungate analog clock (see clkctrl), unclkgate audioout obviously, power up dac and random bits in audioout_pwrdn 23.20.17 # ungate headphone/speaker gate with a gpio ? 23.20.24 # many device have this 23.22.14 Quit SuperBrainAK_ (Quit: pbly gone to sleep (-.-)Zzz...) 23.22.31 # note that if you use a speaker you have to power up the speaker too in pwrdn, and unmute speaker in speakctrl 23.23.06 # and if you use a speaker there is this "magic" sequence you might have to send to the dac otherwise the speaker will not start for some reason 23.24.14 # pamaury: I compared the audioout registers to the state of the of with no differences that should matter 23.24.47 # did you check if the OF uses a speaker/headphone gate controlled by gpio ? 23.24.49 # audio clk in clkctrl_xtal is ungated 23.25.21 # I'm not that far yet. DMA isn't running I'd say 23.26.35 # dma is not required to produce sound actually since you can push samples directly, but you need to set RUN obviously 23.27.01 # I set RUN, but when I check the registers then, it's off 23.27.13 # HW_AUDIOOUT_DACDEBUG = 3 23.27.37 # did you push samples to HW_AUDIOOUT_DATA ? 23.28.07 # do you think that would work with run unset? 23.28.49 # probably not but many the dac won't start if you set run without sending anything to the fifo so I would set RUN and then write a few samples to see 23.29.56 # do you have a suggestion what to write to DATA? 23.30.27 # zero or all ones or try a sin 23.31.32 # try to set the volumes to something reasonable too 23.32.14 # I hardcoded them to the values of the of 23.33.47 # RUN keeps on now 23.35.34 # * ukleinek also has FIFO_UNDERFLOW_IRQ 23.36.26 # underflow is not a problem, if the dac runs out of sample if will just wait you send more 23.38.51 # ukleinek: what is the value of vdda and vag ? there are constraints to make the dac work 23.39.25 # how do I find out? 23.39.42 # ah, I remember setting that somewhere 23.40.19 # you can print the fields related to vddda in power registers 23.41.27 # power registers? 23.41.41 # HW_POWER_VDDACTRL 23.41.41 # 23.42.03 # I set: AUDIOOUT + 0x00000080: 0x03381030 23.42.57 # HW_POWER_VDDACTRL = 0008270a 23.46.32 Quit liar (Read error: No route to host) 23.47.06 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 23.47.10 Join old [0] (~steam412@188.134.60.14) 23.47.28 Join william [0] (~william@d108-180-134-160.bchsia.telus.net) 23.47.53 Nick william is now known as Guest84847 (~william@d108-180-134-160.bchsia.telus.net) 23.48.08 # ukleinek: why do you set LOW_PWR in REFCTRL ? 23.48.47 Quit Guest84847 (Client Quit) 23.49.37 # Good night all 23.49.51 # pamaury: because the of does it, too 23.50.11 # I have rockbox problems 23.50.18 # this with my eq 23.50.41 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 23.50.41 # same for XTAL_BGR_BIAS, not sure what is the effect, but if the OF works with...are those bit set even when playing sound ? 23.50.46 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 23.50.53 # pamaury: yes 23.51.15 # I dumped the registers while the device was playing 23.51.32 # i have live music and try right setting sound 23.51.46 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.51.54 # differences are: CTRL 001f0043 <> 001f0040 23.52.04 # DACSRR because I play a different sound 23.52.12 # but i have problems with voice khz 23.52.14 # DACVOLUME because the pending bits are set 23.52.24 # hum, so RUN is not set ?! 23.52.26 # DACDEBUG 00000000 <> 00000003 23.53.02 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g224239196.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.53.19 # right, at least after I set RUN for the first time. I can set it in memedit though 23.53.47 # PWRDN 0 <> 00000100 23.53.48 # main question say please in how queue need setting any band ? 23.54.05 # because in eq have three parametrs 23.54.15 # TEST 00000000 <> 00800000 23.54.20 # DATA is different 23.54.29 # SPEAKERCTRL 0 <> 01800000 23.55.16 # ukleinek: you have MUTE set in SPEAKERCTRL ! 23.56.24 # right, does it matter? ok I won't hear anything, but that doesn't explain everything 23.56.29 # * ukleinek still drops MUTE 23.57.10 # Who can tell how right do setting equalizer please answer. I hope in your help. 23.57.31 # pamaury: doesn't make a difference 23.57.39 # what are you trying to obtain exactly ? 23.58.05 # old: if someone knows the answer it will answer, otherwise try asking on the forum 23.58.07 # old: not that many people know the eq well. If nobody answers here, you might have better luck on the forums 23.58.17 # finding out why run is cleared 23.58.47 # try to setup a dummy dma transfer which loops and send a few samples