--- Log for 07.06.113 Server: hubbard.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 days and 3 hours ago 00.02.39 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 00.10.00 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00.11.26 Quit melmothX (Quit: #) 00.25.54 Quit z180 (Remote host closed the connection) 00.28.52 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 00.37.38 Quit derf (*.net *.split) 00.39.23 Quit ender` (Quit: I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it. -- Mark Twain) 00.48.10 Join derf [0] (~derf@fuzzyneural.net) 01.02.04 Quit derf (*.net *.split) 01.03.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.04.45 Join derf [0] (~derf@fuzzyneural.net) 01.41.48 Join froggymana [0] (~me@CPE-65-31-183-55.wi.res.rr.com) 01.41.48 Quit froggymana (Changing host) 01.41.48 Join froggymana [0] (~me@unaffiliated/froggyman) 01.45.13 Quit lebellium (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.49.40 Join froggyman__ [0] (~me@CPE-65-31-183-55.wi.res.rr.com) 01.50.02 Quit liar (Read error: No route to host) 01.53.14 Quit froggymana (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 01.58.05 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 02.20.45 Quit dv_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 02.23.36 Join dv_ [0] (~quassel@chello080108009040.14.11.vie.surfer.at) 02.54.02 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 03.03.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.24.23 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 03.24.27 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 03.24.51 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 03.26.08 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@f053155138.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.09.18 Quit Zarggg (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.09.46 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.140.62.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 04.10.53 Quit b1101 (Quit: b1101) 04.11.36 Quit froggyman__ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.13.56 Join amithkk_ [0] (uid4289@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxtflyemasknfhyh) 04.15.40 Nick amithkk_ is now known as amithkk (uid4289@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xxtflyemasknfhyh) 04.15.44 Quit amithkk (Changing host) 04.15.44 Join amithkk [0] (uid4289@2buntu/writers/amithkk) 04.16.42 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 04.17.47 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 04.18.23 Join b1101 [0] (~b@216.155.129.27) 04.22.06 Join ImColdAsIce [0] (~nobody@187-55-155-126.gnace704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) 04.22.30 Part ImColdAsIce 04.34.34 # * [Saint] starts piecing together a patch to allow battery and volume display to be turned off 04.38.06 # <[Saint]> (so that there is - graphical|numeric|off - as choices for display, themers could then get their themes to respect these settings, which is the mission I am on now with my iLike themes. Getting them to respect as much of the theme and status/scroll bar settings as possible. 04.38.08 # <[Saint]> ) 04.54.24 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.54.25 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.54.29 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.54.38 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.54.38 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.54.40 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 05.03.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.08.29 Nick soap_ is now known as soap (~soap@cpe-174-102-96-10.woh.res.rr.com) 05.08.43 Quit soap (Changing host) 05.08.43 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 05.12.31 Quit b1101 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 05.13.56 Join b1101 [0] (~b@209.222.18.75) 05.30.30 Join froggymana [0] (~me@CPE-65-26-218-129.wi.res.rr.com) 05.30.30 Quit froggymana (Changing host) 05.30.30 Join froggymana [0] (~me@unaffiliated/froggyman) 05.42.17 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 05.42.26 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.44.59 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@p5DD442A5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 05.46.46 Quit TheSphinX^ (Read error: Operation timed out) 06.01.11 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.01.22 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:27:773:0:feed:c0f:fee) 06.01.55 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 06.38.13 Join kaputnik_ [0] (~kaputnik@port-92-206-127-161.dynamic.qsc.de) 06.57.47 Join fordcars_ [0] (~irchon@modemcable048.140-83-70.mc.videotron.ca) 06.59.59 Quit froggymana (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 07.01.47 Quit fordcars_ (Client Quit) 07.03.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.04.56 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07.29.16 Quit makoto_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 07.42.47 Join mortalis [0] (~kvirc@213.33.220.118) 07.44.19 Quit kaputnik_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 08.09.24 Join melmothX [0] (~melmoth@unaffiliated/melmothx) 08.22.14 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.28.21 Quit Scromple (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 08.40.14 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 08.40.29 Join kaputnik_ [0] (~kaputnik@ip-217-18-181-130.static.reverse.dsi.net) 08.44.22 Join michaela [0] (~michaela@cpe-75-82-191-115.socal.res.rr.com) 08.45.53 # how do i install rockbox bootloader im usinb ubuntu and i dont understand the instructions on the manual 08.46.04 # ubuntu 12.04 08.54.59 # can u guy see my tex 08.55.24 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 08.55.27 # im sorry is this thing working 08.55.34 # michaela: use http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility 08.57.43 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@161.43.73.67) 08.59.21 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 08.59.30 # im sorry it was easy i feel dumb thank you guys i mean it 09.03.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.04.39 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 09.05.59 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.11.42 Quit Scromple (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.19.32 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@161.43.73.67) 09.21.29 # rockbox rocks much props thanks for this software all you guys should pat yourself in the back i love it 09.22.15 # keep up the good work im a big fan 09.27.37 Quit michaela (Quit: Leaving) 09.41.57 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 09.42.44 Join akaWolf [0] (~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf) 09.54.54 Join makoto [0] (~makoto@ludgate.privmsg.me.uk) 09.58.16 Quit shamus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.59.09 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 10.03.58 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10.21.49 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 10.29.49 Quit b1101 (Quit: b1101) 10.56.24 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.58.27 # petur: ping 10.58.37 # pang! 10.59.12 # petur: You didn't answer on ML - do I assume correctly that DevCon is gonna happen in Gent? 10.59.58 # sorry, I'm at work and no access to home mails 11.00.11 Quit Scromple (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.00.19 # if nobody else steps up, it will be Gent I guess 11.03.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.04.18 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 11.52.49 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 11.53.15 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@184.76.254.130) 12.00.10 Join gapan [0] (~gapan@79.103.225.183.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) 12.00.30 Quit petur (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12.07.54 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 12.34.07 Quit kaputnik_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.47.21 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 12.49.43 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 13.03.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.07.28 # kugel: ping 14.10.39 Join kaitsu1 [0] (~bubba@a91-152-170-133.elisa-laajakaista.fi) 14.13.39 # wodz: pong 14.14.44 # kugel: pamaury answered Your question on ML already :-) 14.20.56 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 14.46.17 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 14.46.25 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 14.52.01 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14.53.04 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:27:773:0:feed:c0f:fee) 14.58.04 Join Michaela [0] (4b52bf73@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.82.191.115) 14.58.35 # How do I add music to my c200 14.59.06 # Is it in the music file 14.59.51 # Michaela: if you plug it into your computer it should show up as a disk drive. just put your music in there 14.59.58 # (you can make folders if you like) 15.00.32 # im not sure where the c200 original firmware reads music from but if you want it to show up there you should put music in that folder(if there is one) 15.00.38 # So I cold poot them any ware 15.01.46 # i dont think it will work if you put it in the .rockbox folder but anywhere else should be ok 15.02.51 # i would recomend making a music or audio folder and putting it in there instead of just throwing all your music in the root folder 15.03.14 # That's awesome so I could make new files like / podcasts and it will show up in the file browser in rockbox 15.03.23 # yes 15.03.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.03.47 # i have an Audio folder and in there i have Podcasts, Seminars, and Music 15.04.36 # Cool thanks I love rockbox 15.04.50 # Your Welcome :) Glad to hear it 15.06.11 # Oh I'm sorry I have one more question if I add a micro sd card how would that work 15.10.37 # Michaela, I dont have any experience with that. I only use the Ipod Classic so someone else will need to field this question. 15.12.03 Quit Michaela (Quit: Page closed) 15.14.33 Quit [Saint] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.15.36 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 15.19.48 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@2001:470:c807:0:1532:4e5f:2ad3:4123) 15.20.57 Quit kaitsu1 (Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )) 15.31.51 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 15.42.52 Quit [Saint] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.44.04 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 15.50.40 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 16.05.15 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 16.05.38 Join ikeboy [0] (~435622d3@www.haxx.se) 16.11.05 Quit ikeboy (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 16.12.06 Join ikeboy [0] (~435622d3@www.haxx.se) 16.14.14 Quit ikeboy (Client Quit) 16.14.36 Join ikeboy [0] (~435622d3@www.haxx.se) 16.22.52 Quit petur (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 16.26.46 Quit amiconn (Quit: No Ping reply in 64 seconds.) 16.26.54 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 16.26.57 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 16.31.56 Quit mortalis (Quit: KVIrc 4.3.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) 16.39.47 Quit ikeboy (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 16.47.02 Join ender1 [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 16.50.48 Quit ender` (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 17.03.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.05.30 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@141.45.176.104) 17.05.30 Quit kugel (Changing host) 17.05.30 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 17.06.08 # gevaerts: ping 17.06.27 # pong? 17.06.51 # gevaerts: I'm looking at the audio_get_buffer() call in usb_storage.c 17.07.11 # ignoring the obviously apps<->firmware violation, why does it _not_ grab the voice buffer? 17.07.24 # in usb_storage_init_connection() 17.07.47 # Does the voice buffer always exist? 17.08.34 # no, either there is no voicefile available or it has been grabbed (thus destroyed) by a previous call to audio_get_buffer() 17.08.46 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@euarne.ipv6.intevation.de) 17.09.58 # Right 17.11.37 # for UMS operation voice isn't needed (because the UI is blocked) and can actually be harmful since it can lead to disk access (although I think it does open() before which denies access?) on TALK_PARTIAL_LOAD targets 17.12.16 # * gevaerts nods 17.12.31 # But if it's not always there, how can we use it? 17.12.36 # anyway, I'm asking if it's on purpose or not because I'm looking into replacing this call with a core_alloc* function that has no equivalent of "give me voice buffer as well" 17.12.54 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 17.13.21 # gevaerts: the function gives either the audio buffer or both audio+voice buffer 17.13.51 # my question should have been why does it not grab the voice buffer /in addition to the audio buffer/ ;) 17.14.09 Join ST4RL [0] (~46332b34@www.haxx.se) 17.14.15 # hello 17.14.20 # It needs about 64K IIRC 17.14.34 # Are there targets that need the voice buffer to reach that? 17.14.48 # If not, that's your answer :) 17.14.53 # i dont think so 17.14.55 # I have a question : Can I use myh Rockboxed iPod Video as a USB DAC 17.15.01 # that would mean the audio buffer is less than 64k 17.15.25 # ST4RL: not without a lot of coding and debugging 17.16.31 # ok thank you 17.16.41 # so it's not grabbing it as well more because of "the audio buffer should be sufficiently large" and not "I want voice to continue to work"? 17.16.51 # Right 17.17.11 # would having voice to continue make sense? 17.17.38 # such as for HID-only usb connections? 17.18.28 # Yes, but HID doesn't grab any buffers IIRC 17.18.50 # i havent checked the callsites of usb_storage_init_connection() 17.19.05 # That's pure MSC 17.19.29 # yea, the fact that it's in usb_storage.c suggests that, in hindsight :) 17.20.03 Quit ST4RL (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 17.21.01 # Anyway, It looks like we use 2*MAX(READ_BUFFER_SIZE,WRITE_BUFFER_SIZE)+MAX_CBW_SIZE bytes (all of those are known in usb_storage.c), which looks like it's up to 129K 17.22.51 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17.26.03 Part swilde ("ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)") 17.26.08 # gevaerts: what's the coutnerpart of that function where I would free() an allocated buffer? 17.26.18 # usb_storage_disconnect()? 17.27.00 # yes 17.58.01 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 17.58.29 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@62.83.50.196.dyn.user.ono.com) 17.59.31 Quit kilroy (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.04.57 Join webguest [0] (~75c2c8c1@www.haxx.se) 18.05.10 Quit webguest (Client Quit) 18.08.13 Join dewlap [0] (~dewlap@2001:5c0:1000:a::511) 18.18.12 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 18.19.27 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 18.22.36 # * kugel has successfully removed the completely unsafe audio_get_buffer() \o/ 18.25.46 Quit dewlap (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.32.27 # Yay! 18.36.18 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.41.07 # now access to the large audio buffer is transfered via core_alloc_maximum() 18.41.36 Quit funman (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.00.03 Join dewlap [0] (~dewlap@2001:0:4137:9e76:2cb6:1874:b815:38b6) 19.02.01 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.212.66) 19.03.00 Join kilroy [0] (~dewlap@2001:5c0:1000:a::5a5) 19.03.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.04.31 Quit dewlap (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.05.05 Join dewlap [0] (~dewlap@2001:5c0:1400:a::adb) 19.07.51 Quit kilroy (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.19.35 # JdGordon_: fixed the radioart bug for real now 19.28.43 Quit DexterLB (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.30.14 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E43412.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.33.44 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@77-85-15-59.btc-net.bg) 19.37.51 Quit pretty_function (Remote host closed the connection) 19.49.08 Quit mikroflops (Read error: Operation timed out) 19.51.47 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@h-34-210.a238.priv.bahnhof.se) 19.54.26 Join funman [0] (~fun@altair.via.ecp.fr) 19.58.56 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20.22.22 Quit froggyman (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.28.49 Join froggyman [0] (~froggyman@unaffiliated/froggyman) 20.51.30 Quit y4n (Disconnected by services) 20.51.37 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 21.03.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.08.15 Quit dfkt (Remote host closed the connection) 21.15.55 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@bsod.vpn.tu-clausthal.de) 21.19.55 Quit einhirn (Client Quit) 22.05.12 Part LinusN 22.06.02 Quit akaWolf (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 22.15.20 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 22.33.56 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E43412.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.01.12 Quit krabador (Quit: Bah...) 23.03.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.04.47 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 23.08.49 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 23.19.43 Quit gapan (Quit: Leaving.) 23.27.51 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.42.03 Quit melmothX (Quit: #) 23.42.15 Quit y4n (Quit: We're fucking 3LN!)