--- Log for 23.06.113 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 13 days and 14 hours ago 00.01.46 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 00.33.45 Quit y4n (Quit: 6,000,000 ways to die — choose one.) 00.45.19 Quit pystar89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.48.56 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 00.49.19 Quit dfkt (Disconnected by services) 00.49.21 Join dfkt_ [0] (OxO29A@unaffiliated/dfkt) 00.53.14 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.57.03 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.58.58 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 01.13.06 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 01.13.32 Join olspookishmagus [0] (~pookie@91.132.63.143) 01.18.35 Quit TheLemonMan (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 01.36.34 Quit Raptors (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01.43.17 Quit olspookishmagus (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 01.43.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.44.14 Join olspookishmagus [0] (~pookie@91.132.63.143) 01.44.37 Nick olspookishmagus is now known as Guest97618 (~pookie@91.132.63.143) 01.53.17 Quit Guest97618 (Quit: All for nothing) 01.59.04 Quit ender` (Quit: It is better to stay silent and be thought a fool, than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt. -- Abraham Lincoln) 02.02.53 Quit kaputnik (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 02.26.35 Quit Marex (Read error: Operation timed out) 02.28.46 Quit guymann (Quit: ENCRYPTING muh harddisks) 03.11.02 Quit shamus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.11.44 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 03.21.35 Quit Guest40446 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 03.41.34 # legit question here, any advantages of me getting a fuze+ as main mp3 player and not just use my clip as main ? (except for it being tiny and my full sized headphones looking weird next to it) 03.44.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.03.04 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@p57A396C8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 04.04.43 Quit mrtux (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.05.15 Join mrtux [0] (~mrtux@unaffiliated/mrtux) 04.06.25 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 04.09.30 Quit mystica555 (Remote host closed the connection) 04.13.47 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.13.47 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.13.48 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.14.01 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.14.01 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.14.03 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.37.53 # <[Saint]> SrRaven: No. 04.38.21 # <[Saint]> Oh....well, actually, the Fuze+ has some #D effect that sounds like ass, you might want that :) 04.38.31 # <[Saint]> *3D, even 04.39.20 # <[Saint]> If you have a clip, and it works, and you like it...I see no reason to get the Fuze+ unless there is something about it that truly stands out to you. 04.43.24 Join Raptors [0] (~whoneedsa@216-58-33-203.cpe.distributel.net) 04.43.55 Quit Raptors (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.44.45 Join Raptors [0] (~whoneedsa@216-58-33-203.cpe.distributel.net) 04.58.10 Quit habys (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1) 05.02.40 Join habys [0] (~luke@arikui.org) 05.06.10 Join shai [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 05.07.05 Quit shai (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.11.33 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 05.11.41 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.30.06 Quit FOAD (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 05.30.38 Join FOAD [0] (~foad@unaffiliated/foad) 05.41.53 Quit derf (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.44.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.48.59 Join derf [0] (~derf@fuzzyneural.net) 06.01.53 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 06.03.23 Quit dfkt_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.09.13 Quit Epicanis (Quit: I have a sleepy.) 06.10.19 Quit aevin (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 06.11.19 Join aevin [0] (eivindsy@unaffiliated/aevin) 06.25.43 Quit mrtux (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 06.37.53 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.51.01 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:27:773:0:feed:c0f:fee) 06.51.11 Join guymann [0] (~c@unaffiliated/guymann) 06.58.46 Join b1101 [0] (~b@209.222.18.35) 07.01.25 Quit ps-auxw (Read error: Operation timed out) 07.01.44 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@2001:470:c807:0:1532:4e5f:2ad3:4123) 07.18.30 Quit b1101 (Quit: b1101) 07.22.32 Join b1101 [0] (~b@209.222.18.35) 07.29.07 # SrRaven: like I said, the Fuze+ is more convenient for browsing large collections, IMO. 07.29.54 # That's the main difference with a Clip+, for me. 07.29.57 # And, battery life. 07.44.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.11.55 Join pystar89 [0] (~pystar89@ip-109-90-154-150.unitymediagroup.de) 08.17.58 Join akaWolf [0] (~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf) 08.50.05 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 08.50.05 Quit n1s (Changing host) 08.50.05 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 09.09.51 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 09.11.14 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 09.12.32 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g224236197.adsl.alicedsl.de) 09.13.22 Quit bluebrother^ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 09.32.53 Quit TeruFSX2 (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 09.44.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.53.44 Join melmothX [0] (~melmoth@unaffiliated/melmothx) 09.59.32 Join TeruFSX [0] (~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net) 10.03.24 Join TeruFSX2 [0] (~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net) 10.05.01 Quit TeruFSX (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 10.05.10 Quit TeruFSX2 (Read error: No route to host) 10.05.51 Join TeruFSX2 [0] (~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net) 10.09.29 Join tertu [0] (~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net) 10.10.40 Quit TeruFSX2 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 10.13.51 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 10.14.17 Quit y4n (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.15.23 Quit tertu (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 10.18.06 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 10.19.42 Join TeruFSX [0] (~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net) 10.23.53 Quit TeruFSX (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.24.23 Quit y4n (Disconnected by services) 10.24.29 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 10.25.49 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E40022.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.33.01 Join Marex [0] (~Marex@195.140.253.167) 10.35.00 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 10.52.14 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.04.52 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.08.19 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11.30.57 Quit y4n (Disconnected by services) 11.31.08 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 11.44.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.00.11 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:27:773:0:feed:c0f:fee) 12.07.31 Join kaputnik [0] (~kaputnik@p5DD9D0B4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.14.49 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 12.31.23 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.00.58 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 13.36.09 Join olspookishmagus [0] (~pookie@91.132.63.143) 13.36.54 Quit olspookishmagus (Client Quit) 13.37.46 Join olspookishmagus [0] (~pookie@91.132.63.143) 13.44.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.49.37 Quit froggyman (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 13.50.34 Join froggyman [0] (~froggyman@unaffiliated/froggyman) 13.50.42 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 14.03.13 Quit Xerion (Quit: ) 14.08.57 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@5419F5F4.cm-5-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 14.23.53 Quit olspookishmagus (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 14.25.10 Quit GodEater (Changing host) 14.25.10 Join GodEater [0] (~whoknows@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 14.25.14 Join olspookishmagus [0] (~pookie@91.132.63.143) 14.25.38 Nick olspookishmagus is now known as Guest58224 (~pookie@91.132.63.143) 14.51.21 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@2001:610:76a:0:bd72:dbaa:d722:4a5f) 14.51.21 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 14.51.21 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 14.52.01 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@62.83.50.196.dyn.user.ono.com) 15.17.17 Quit Darakian (Remote host closed the connection) 15.21.48 Quit Guest58224 (Quit: All for nothing) 15.40.50 Quit nosa-j (Excess Flood) 15.41.45 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@184.76.254.130) 15.44.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.49.44 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 15.51.47 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@184.76.254.130) 15.56.23 Quit kaputnik (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.07.08 Join kaputnik [0] (~kaputnik@p5DD9D0B4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.01.35 Quit pamaury (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.06.30 Quit kaputnik (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 17.36.14 Join RockBoxer [0] (~2ea5d0cb@www.haxx.se) 17.36.23 # Hello All 17.36.59 # Who can I talk to about donations ? 17.37.18 # Zagor 17.39.35 # I was also looking for the dependencys in the wiki - cant find the howto... I am missing arm-elf-eabi-gcc... 17.40.20 # you need to build it using our rockboxdev.sh script, which should be explained in the compiling instructions 17.43.18 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 17.43.48 # Thx looks good so far 17.44.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.50.47 Join mrtux [0] (~mrtux@unaffiliated/mrtux) 17.50.50 # What is the procces to get a plugin into the the sansaPlus trunk ? 17.53.26 Join lukey [0] (~lukey@cpc6-nrwh9-2-0-cust120.4-4.cable.virginmedia.com) 17.53.56 # Hi all - RB3.13 on Toshiba Gigabeat F60 - Battery wont c 17.54.12 # harge and info screen says "battery n/a" 17.54.30 # Is my battery just dead? 17.55.07 # It will only work when plugged into the mains 17.55.22 # RockBoxer: see http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingGit#Uploading_a_change_for_review_and_testing 17.55.55 # lukey: maybe, or maybe a wire broke or something like that. Did it use to work? 17.56.13 # it used to work yes, a while ago 17.57.08 # I've had some troubles in the past where the LCD screen will slowly get really bright and then stop working - requiring a hard reset 17.57.31 # I had to take it apart once before to unplug/replug the IDE cable and I lost the screws 17.57.43 # so the unit is held together with tape :) 17.57.55 # So wonder if it is short curcuiting 17.57.58 # Right 17.58.37 # I'd open it up and have a look 17.58.43 # At one stage I was getting IDE errors when plugged in via USB - so I though the Hard-drive might be on the way out 17.59.08 # but as long as I stay away from certain sectors, it's ok. 17.59.30 # Hmmm, actually, I think I'd start looking for another player :) 17.59.30 # It has served me so well all these years thanks to RockBox :) 18.00.09 # it's still going strong apart from those couple of things... Portability isn't that important to me... 18.00.16 # A bad battery can be replaced, and a bad disk can be replaced, but if the disk is bad, the battery is bad, and the case falls apart, maybe the player should be considered dead :) 18.00.41 # Saves me memory on the laptop opening up audacious... 18.00.58 # gevaerts: :) 18.01.37 # gevaerts: I daren't open it up again... 18.02.25 # I don't know if these can still be picked up. There's so many fake sellers on ebay. 18.03.24 # I'd gamble on the scammers concentrating on more popular devices 18.04.19 # * gevaerts won't sell his own F60 of course :) 18.05.02 # nah gevaerts you'd be surprised, chinese scammers have a whole industry based around any imaginable keyword 18.05.34 # Very sophisticated frauds... Each has their own image and legion of "satisfied" buyers 18.06.54 # "Power sellers", "Business sellers" etc. only on close inspection can you see the feedback is all generic and other "screwy" signals. 18.08.14 # Oh and when you look at the negative feedbacks all you'll ever see is a poorly written pigeon english rebuttal saying how it is the buyers fault :) 18.09.06 # I laugh at it but feel bad for the people who get caught out. Ebay are almost complicit in this as they don't really do anything to stop it. 18.09.18 # That's it, rant over - thanks for letting me vent... 18.15.26 Quit lukey (Quit: Leaving) 18.35.13 # [Saint]: how do you compile a Win32 UIsim for RaaA? 18.36.05 # lebellium: you don't. there's no sim for RaaA 18.36.38 # how did he make cabbiev2 themes for Android targets then? 18.36.55 # using the sdl app 18.37.30 # what's that? 18.37.41 # RaaA 18.37.46 # just not for android 18.37.48 # but for the PC 18.38.19 # ah 18.38.33 # but it doesnt work on windows 18.38.45 # however, you could use the android emulator on windows 18.39.17 # I know dfkt made his themes based on a Cowon D2 UIsim with adapted resolution 18.39.22 # but I don't know how to do that 18.40.42 # you can pick any touchscreen target emulator and change its lcd size in config/.h 18.42.34 # oh 18.42.37 # I'll try that 18.42.40 # thanks 18.43.37 # you might need to run it with the --nobackground option so it doesnt display the target frame 18.44.22 Join Epicanis [0] (~Epicanis@static-72-95-113-7.port.east.myfairpoint.net) 18.46.08 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 18.48.56 Join webguest0xfA [0] (~82b9dd6f@www.haxx.se) 18.50.46 Quit webguest0xfA (Client Quit) 18.53.06 # is rockbox system clock aware of timezones ? 18.58.45 # I need to set my time to GMT because of a plugin. But I want to get displayed GMT+2. What is the approche ? 19.00.26 Nick funman is now known as fanman (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 19.04.38 # kugel: where is this config folder? 19.05.00 # RockBoxer: no it is not 19.05.41 # lebellium: firmware/export/ 19.06.31 # thanks 19.10.16 # should I change the #define LCD_DPI line too? is it important? 19.13.37 Nick fanman is now known as fanmun (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 19.19.44 Quit RockBoxer (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 19.21.37 # lebellium, in /tools/configure you have to change plugins="yes" to plugins="" as well, otherwise it probably won't work 19.21.50 # no need to change the DPI 19.25.54 # lebellium: you can leave LCD_DPI as-is, it currenetly only affects the size of the list items but not themes 19.26.20 # but it wouldnt hurt if you insert the DPI for your monitor either :) 19.26.45 # For the moment I got like a normal build although I selected (S)imulator and (W)in32. No rockboxui.exe. Is that due to plugins="yes" 19.26.47 # ? 19.27.16 # lebellium: what about make $PWD/rockboxui.ee ? 19.27.18 # +x 19.32.04 # it seems to create a rockboxui.exe file in the directory but when I type "make fullzip" I only get the build 19.39.31 # why do you do that? 19.39.36 # just run rockboxui.exe 19.39.42 # Win32 :) 19.39.43 # after make install 19.40.02 # make (full)zip isn't really supported for the sims 19.40.04 # I want a .zip to export from Ubuntu to Win 7 19.40.22 # why dont you just run it on linux? 19.40.29 # because I don't use linux 19.40.45 # I don't want to use Photoshop in Windows and the UI sim in linux 19.40.59 # okay 19.41.16 # use photoshop in linux then ^_^ 19.41.39 # (or gimp :P ) 19.44.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.44.23 # okay, I created a simdisk folder, manually put .rockbox inside. Added rockboxui.exe and SDL.dll and it seems to work now. More or less. because when I want to play a mp3 file in the sim it tells me "failed to load /.rockbox/codec/mpa.codec" :( 19.45.50 # I'll steal the codecs folder from another Sim^^ 19.46.30 # erf doesn't work. "codec api version error" 19.48.20 # ah! it works now :) 19.49.10 # pfiou it wouldn't have believed it would be so difficult. I think there are some missing steps here http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UiSimulator in "Building Windows sim in Linux" 19.51.49 # oh no! It just crashes when loading a theme like the UI sim for clip zip :( 19.54.54 # That's quite annoying that the (at least) Cowon C2 and Clip Zip UIsim crash. They are unusable. 19.56.29 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.56.58 # D2* 19.58.23 # Who is "responsible" for Windows UIsim? 20.05.19 Quit n1s (Read error: Connection timed out) 20.52.36 Join dgquintas [0] (~dgquintas@50-0-150-7.dsl.static.sonic.net) 20.54.57 # lebellium: wait a second 20.56.01 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. Revision be5fadf, 217 builds, 22 clients. 20.56.06 # lebellium: try again with latest source 20.57.25 # lebellium: for transfering the sim to the windows machine run make install and copy rockboxui.exe and the simdisk folder (and SDL.dll if necessary) to 20.57.29 # s/to// 20.57.34 Join kaputnik [0] (~kaputnik@port-92-206-5-173.dynamic.qsc.de) 20.57.37 # about a year ago there was no support for timezones. Looking around the forums again , I see the feature is still only a request. Does anybody know if there are any plans to support timezones natively? 20.58.06 # It's not a big deal to implement in-app, but it's always more elegant if there's a system-level setup for it 21.01.23 # dgquintas: it was never needed before, I doubt we would reject patches that implement it 21.02.27 # kugel: oh, good to know :) 21.02.47 # Build Server message: 3Build round completed after 405 seconds. 21.02.47 # Build Server message: 3Revision be5fadf result: All green 21.04.44 # kugel: I should run "make install" instead or after "make -j" ? 21.10.09 # after 21.20.59 # kugel: fixed. 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