--- Log for 25.06.113 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 15 days and 14 hours ago 00.00.10 # Probably 00.04.10 Quit maffe (Quit: IRC ist obsolet!) 00.05.15 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 00.12.22 Quit guymann (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00.14.02 Quit ender` (Quit: I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen Roberts) 00.14.39 Join guymann [0] (~c@unaffiliated/guymann) 00.20.21 Quit kaputnik_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.22.07 # How do I set the color of the menu title (the top line that says e.g. "Recent Bookmarks")? 00.29.29 Join dgquintas [0] (~dgquintas@50-0-150-7.dsl.static.sonic.net) 00.49.29 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.56.02 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 22.0/20130617145905]) 01.03.16 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.140.62.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 01.35.10 # <[Saint]> dunpeal: you would need to do that by creating your own theme, is this what you are doing? 01.36.27 Quit onder` (Quit: leaving) 01.36.43 Quit shamus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.36.59 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 01.37.20 Join onder` [0] (~onder@24.244.89.228) 01.37.28 # [Saint]: I'd runner modify a theme that's already pretty close to my needs, actually. Specifically, runner_96x96 01.41.14 # <[Saint]> In that case, you could create a separate viewport for the list title that is N pixels high (where N is the height of the set userfont) above the UI viewport and subtract N pixels from the height of the set UI viewport. 01.42.05 # <[Saint]> Ideally, you would use a %?Lt conditional so it didn't waste space in non-list screens. 01.43.12 # <[Saint]> The reason to split the list title out into a separate viewport is so you can set its foreground color. 01.45.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.45.34 # <[Saint]> something like "%?Lt<%Vd(list_title_viewport)%Vd(UI_viewport_with_list_title)|%Vd(UI_viewport_without_list_title)>" 01.46.07 # <[Saint]> this would also mean defining two separate UI viewports, which requires a little additional magic. 01.46.16 # <[Saint]> The manual covers this. 01.47.20 # <[Saint]> But by all means feel free to speak up if you get stuck, the skin engine syntax can seem a little overwhelming at first, I know. 01.52.08 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 02.15.58 Quit krabador (Quit: Leaving) 02.17.28 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 02.21.19 Quit onder` (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 02.24.06 Join onder` [0] (~onder@24.244.89.228) 02.31.39 Quit Strife89|alt (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 02.36.04 # [Saint]: thanks a lot, I'll take a first stab, then ask here if I get stuck. 02.36.34 # <[Saint]> dunpeal: Not a problem. 02.37.13 # <[Saint]> I hope I have at least given you the basic idea of what you would need to do. 02.37.25 # yeah, definitely. 02.45.09 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-217-114.mcn.bellsouth.net) 02.50.09 Quit habys (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.51.28 Join habys [0] (~luke@arikui.org) 03.00.23 Quit habys (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.01.57 Join habys [0] (~luke@arikui.org) 03.10.55 Quit dgquintas (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 03.25.29 Quit Gareth (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 03.25.47 Join Gareth [0] (~gareth@2607:ff38:2:83::3) 03.28.50 Quit mrtux (Quit: restarting my POS computer...) 03.32.30 Join mrtux [0] (~mrtux@unaffiliated/mrtux) 03.39.56 Join masked_ [0] (~masked@189.232.54.102) 03.42.39 Part masked_ 03.45.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.03.07 Join TheSphinX_ [0] (~briehl@p5DD44BD0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 04.06.23 Quit TheSphinX^ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.11.02 Join amiconn [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.11.07 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.11.08 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.11.10 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.14.56 Quit amiconn_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 04.56.24 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 05.09.27 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 05.09.36 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.09.47 Quit shamus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.09.53 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 05.24.10 Quit TeruFSX (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.24.33 Join TeruFSX [0] (~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net) 05.45.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.01.58 Quit dfkt (Disconnected by services) 06.02.00 Join dfkt_ [0] (OxO29A@unaffiliated/dfkt) 06.05.53 Quit Zarggg (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.11.29 Quit Raptors (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 06.27.03 Join Strife1989 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-217-114.mcn.bellsouth.net) 06.27.14 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Leaving) 06.30.56 Quit b1101 (Quit: b1101) 07.26.48 Quit Epicanis (Quit: LOOK OUT! 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12.10.02 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 12.20.16 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 12.24.01 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 12.25.09 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 12.27.12 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 12.51.32 Join kaputnik_ [0] (~kaputnik@ip-217-18-181-130.static.reverse.dsi.net) 12.51.57 # * [Saint] has an interesting, completely repeatable bug on iPod Color/Photo: 12.54.13 # <[Saint]> If I apply 14-Adobe-Helvetica-Bold, the font will corrupt, and it will take 3~4 loads to display the font with no visible corruption (or, a reboot), and if I then init the Database, I get a panic regarding dircache and almost everything gets wiped out from the .rockbox folder. 12.55.20 # <[Saint]> I thought it was disc corruption, but, if it is, it is disc corruption that doesn't display any apparent disc corruption and can survive being formatted. 13.00.22 # those bugs are the best! 13.02.05 # <[Saint]> I need to get home so I can rule out A: Self-compiled binary/bootloader, and B: non-standard OSOS install method 13.02.46 # <[Saint]> Directories repeatably vanishing from /.rockbox is a bit weird...though. 13.03.21 # <[Saint]> If I didn't keep the build .zip in the root of the device, and didn't have my phone and an iPod cable in the car, I'd be screwed. 13.03.41 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 13.03.52 # <[Saint]> Well...s/screwed/slightly annoyed for a few hours until I got home/ 13.08.00 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 13.11.49 Quit DexterLB (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.16.47 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@77-85-7-183.btc-net.bg) 13.17.15 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 13.19.21 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 13.31.21 # Does the GPL2 license of Rockbox prevent it from being used in a commercial product (like a DAP)? 13.31.41 # no 13.32.16 # https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html 13.32.40 # But it would require the company to distribute the modified source, which might reveal hardware secrets? Is that what would be holding back a company from shipping Rockbox? 13.32.58 # I mean, is that what a company executive would think 13.33.36 # a company executive doesn't know about rockbox and isn't targetting über-geeks 13.33.40 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 13.33.52 # funman: FiiO kinda is 13.34.38 # meh, FiiO wouldn't like the 16/44.1 resampling thing, since they target audiophiles 13.35.34 # not sure what "hardware secrets" a company would want to keep though 13.35.37 # except maybe Apple 13.36.52 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.42.12 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 13.45.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.57.39 # I somehow think that companies aren't too interested as Rockbox would mean easily updateable OS, they'd rather want to sell new products instead of seeing the customer being satisfied with the already purchased player by keeping it up-to-date in a different way. Maybe an example gets it across better... with Rockbox your old Sansa e200v1 is able to use microSDHCs, I guess SanDisk had rather you buy their newer players 14.02.16 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 14.08.20 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 14.09.17 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 14.10.08 # pixelma: honestly thats not the point - see Tivolization problem. If you have control over bootloader you can prevent the update still conforming to GPLv2 14.14.00 # I guess it would also prevent them from using proprietary plugins? 14.14.08 # pamaury: I tested the patch on both Clip Zip and Clip+ and it works fine :) 14.14.18 # plugins, formats, DRM… 14.20.22 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.24.13 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 14.36.53 Quit olspookishmagus (Quit: free() the malloc()) 14.39.22 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@unaffiliated/krabador) 15.06.08 Join pamaury_ [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 15.07.01 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 15.07.33 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 15.22.37 Quit TeruFSX (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.23.00 Join TeruFSX [0] (~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net) 15.38.15 Quit TeruFSX (Read error: No route to host) 15.38.39 Join TeruFSX [0] (~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net) 15.41.11 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@unaffiliated/thelemonman) 15.45.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.56.55 # [Saint]: I know you're secretly thinking this buflib is shit when seeing those bugs :) 16.00.24 # <[Saint]> kugel: to be honest, I have *no* idea what is going on here. 16.00.49 # <[Saint]> I haven't tried with another build yet, just playing with the *really* odd, repeatable, behavior. 16.01.00 Join rasher_ [0] (~rasher@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 16.01.52 # <[Saint]> It seems to be a specific recipe: Apply a new font, init the database, dircache panic, reboot, almost everything in ./rockbox (and no other folder) is missing. 16.02.22 Quit krabador (Quit: Leaving) 16.03.59 # <[Saint]> ...now, the font corruption I'm seeing, that might very well be buflib being weird, yes. :) 16.04.46 # do you have radioart? 16.04.54 # <[Saint]> No. 16.07.06 Join TBCOOL_ [0] (~tb@c-893571d5.09-42-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 16.10.34 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 16.11.09 Quit pamaury_ (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 16.11.45 Quit rasher (*.net *.split) 16.11.46 Quit TBCOOL (*.net *.split) 16.11.48 Nick rasher_ is now known as rasher (~rasher@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) 16.12.58 Quit Xerion (Write error: Connection reset by peer) 16.13.32 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@5419F5F4.cm-5-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 16.20.56 Join pamaury_ [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 16.21.10 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16.25.43 Quit TeruFSX (Read error: No route to host) 16.26.09 Join TeruFSX [0] (~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net) 16.29.02 Part LinusN 16.29.14 Join TeruFSX2 [0] (~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net) 16.32.39 Quit TeruFSX (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 16.36.05 Join tertu [0] (~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net) 16.37.26 Quit mortalis (Quit: KVIrc 4.3.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) 16.38.19 Join TeruFSX [0] (~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net) 16.38.53 Quit TeruFSX (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.39.19 Join TeruFSX [0] (~TeruFSX@65-128-175-59.mpls.qwest.net) 16.39.31 Quit TeruFSX2 (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 16.39.41 Join Scromple_ [0] (~Simon@119.225.209.134) 16.41.22 Quit tertu (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 16.44.46 Join dunpeal_ [0] (~dunpeal@wsip-70-167-155-210.oc.oc.cox.net) 16.45.21 Join guymann_ [0] (~c@unaffiliated/guymann) 16.48.04 Join dcheartly [0] (~madcat199@216.185.65.74) 16.49.18 Quit Scr0mple (*.net *.split) 16.49.18 Quit guymann (*.net *.split) 16.49.18 Quit dunpeal (*.net *.split) 16.50.11 # is anyone working on relocatable plugins ? 16.50.19 Quit shamus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.50.20 Quit Poodlemastah (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 16.50.33 Join Poodlemastah_ [0] (~Poodlemas@109-124-181-96.customer.t3.se) 16.50.50 Quit madcat1990 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.51.20 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 16.52.21 # TheLemonMan: wodz has been working on that, but I don't think anyone is actively looking at it now 16.57.48 # oh, nice. 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19.25.35 # is it handled better if you use %vl ? or doesnt it make a difference? 19.26.28 # belak: the 6g and 7g work... i think 7g has issues with usb but fallback mode works AFAIK 19.28.35 Join penth [0] (~reikoNeko@c-68-81-89-93.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 19.38.30 Join thegeek_ [0] (~thegeek@40.200.16.62.customer.cdi.no) 19.41.35 Quit thegeek (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 19.45.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.45.24 Join webguest946 [0] (~324bd132@www.haxx.se) 19.46.20 Quit webguest946 (Client Quit) 19.47.43 Quit Scall (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.49.12 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 19.50.19 # amayer: thanks 19.50.37 # I have a 6th gen and I'm looking at grabbing a 5th gen for relatively cheap 19.55.33 Join kaputnik_ [0] (~kaputnik@port-92-206-210-231.dynamic.qsc.de) 19.55.45 Join Scr0mple [0] (~Simon@119.225.209.134) 19.55.51 # belak: I use a 6th gen every day. I very rarely have problems with it. 19.56.31 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.213.70) 19.57.39 # I've been using it on my 6th gen and I love it… kinda glitchy every once in a while though 19.57.49 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 19.57.57 Join amithkk [0] (uid4289@2buntu/writers/amithkk) 19.58.22 Quit Scromple_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.58.23 Quit belak (Quit: belak) 19.58.58 # hmm... ive never noticed any glitchy behavior on it. 20.05.54 Join belak [0] (~belak@facebook/engineering/belak) 20.14.35 # I have 20.16.02 # Though, again, fallback works great 20.16.23 # If you have it plugged into USB before rockbox is started, my PC won't actually detect anything. 20.16.24 # madcat1990, do you use the newest build? or the one that comes with emCore? 20.16.35 # madcat1990, MS Windows? 20.16.45 # amayer, I have a 2nd gen Mini, and I'm always using bleeding edge. MS Windows and OSX 10.6.8 20.17.06 # Speed is also an issue in Rockbox 20.18.33 # But I always thought that to already beknown 20.19.35 # the OF uses a database so some things will be faster. the only place i notice it is slow is the file browser. 20.20.06 # The File Browser is actually OK. 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I atm use it as my main mp3 player,annoying thing is, that during a run, I only want a selected part of my music during the run...so ? 22.49.20 Quit Bagder (Quit: connection reset by beer) 22.49.44 # SrRaven: http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansaclip/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-640004.4 22.50.27 # so no method to do so from the PC end 22.50.42 # cause adding 200~ songs to a playlist...can imagine things that are more fun :P 22.54.19 Join tuckin [0] (~3ec5d502@www.haxx.se) 22.55.02 # hello 22.56.05 # SrRaven: use any program that can create m3u playlists 22.56.14 # kk 22.56.20 # thanks 22.56.29 # does anyone how can get to recovery mode on sensa clip + 22.56.31 # ? 22.57.06 # for sure someone knows 22.57.11 # tuckin: what happens with your clip + ? 22.57.30 # well, except that there's unlikely for someone to be familiar with a sense. Never heard of that :D 22.57.37 # *sensa 22.57.46 # what if the m3u making program uses absolute paths like C:\Music\etc\etc\etc.mp3 22.57.50 # ? 22.57.58 # the more important question is: why do you want to use the recovery mode? 22.58.12 # madcat1990: then :) 22.58.23 # Rockbox strips the first part of the path in playlists 22.59.13 # bluebrother, you just keep giving me reasons to love this thing 22.59.35 # you're welcome 22.59.41 # my player can't start. It's only black screen. When i connect to computer, player recognized as unknown device. 23.00.20 # * madcat1990 hugs bluebrother 23.00.29 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 23.00.30 # there have been cases of the player being crashed badly, in which case you can simply wait for the battery to drain completely (a couple of days) and then recharge 23.00.46 # tuckin: if it is recognized it is bot bricked 23.01.54 # in linux recognized as M200Plus (30MB), but it's cleanly. 23.03.03 # i try write original firmware over linux utility "DD" but it doesnt work 23.04.01 # i have sensa clip + 4GB... i can't see flash. I only see NAND flash (M200Plus as unknown device) 23.04.34 # hmm it indeed looks bad 23.06.11 # yes... can i use jtag to programmer flash... but i don't have software and schematic JTAG cable to connect to device 23.06.23 # jtag socket is not soldered in on the clips 23.06.43 # i don't even know is pinout is currently known 23.07.06 # google for sansaamsunbrick 23.08.13 # clip+ doesnt have jtag? 23.08.45 # basically none of our devices have actual jtag connectors; some of them have pins for it but it's often not wired to anything sensible you can plug into, and we may not know the pinout at all 23.09.56 # it's really bad 23.10.25 # some devices may not even have jtag pinned out at all, or fused off 23.10.40 # there's only a few wqhere we actually know how to connect it and it works ;) 23.14.06 # and how it work recovery pins on clip+? 23.15.08 # that's just some on-chip boot code that detects some condition and makes the chip boot into a different state 23.15.25 # a million guides on how to recovert but none the clip + 23.15.59 # we also don't ahve any way to know hot to enter recovery mode on those devices until someone guesses/figures it out either 23.17.05 # so it's not repair 23.17.36 # tuckin: sansaamsunbrick on the wiki 23.18.35 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/pub/Main/SansaAMSUnbrick/sandisksansaclipplusdis.jpg 23.20.06 # yes these are the pins but I do not know how it should work 23.20.08 # * funman notices the Zip is missing, but doesn't remember seeing many help requests for bricked clip zip 23.20.16 # tuckin: the wiki page says it all ? 23.25.35 # yes it is possible, but i cant find any step by step manual that would work 23.28.35 Quit melmothX (Quit: #) 23.32.10 # tuckin: seriously? the steps are on the wiki 23.34.30 # procedure that works? Where? 23.35.57 # I do not know whether it can detect unknown device, which has only 30MB 23.36.44 # original firmware has 15MB. 23.37.45 #  23.37.45 # . Execute "sudo fdisk -l". It should report a drive without partitions, with a size of 979.75MB (approximately, there is some 1000/1024 Bytes rounding). If it reports 4MB, your flash is broken. 23.37.46 # but doesnt work when i upload firmware over dd 23.37.59 Join z180 [0] (~chatzilla@ip-109-45-40-136.web.vodafone.de) 23.38.02 # need 979.75MB 23.38.14 # for clip+? 23.40.59 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.41.10 # it's broken :-( 23.41.14 # just read the page! 23.44.05 # i read already 23.45.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.51.42 Join Raptors [0] (~whoneedsa@216-58-33-203.cpe.distributel.net) 23.52.01 Quit Raptors_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.53.08 Quit tuckin (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 23.54.58 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.140.62.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net)