--- Log for 01.08.113 Server: pratchett.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 6 days and 5 hours ago 00.09.25 Quit Rower (Quit: Hmmm...) 00.20.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.28.38 Quit robin0800 (Quit: KVIrc 4.3.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) 00.28.57 Join robin0800 [0] (~Robin0800@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 00.34.49 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 00.49.13 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 00.50.14 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.53.38 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 00.54.11 Quit ender` (Quit: All great truths begin as blasphemies. –– George Bernard Shaw) 01.42.44 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@72.25.20.69) 01.42.51 Quit robin0800 (Quit: KVIrc 4.3.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) 02.20.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.28.51 Quit habys (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 02.31.02 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0/20130729175331]) 02.32.54 Join habys [0] (~luke@arikui.org) 02.42.45 Nick SuperBrainAK is now known as DormantBrain (~andy@shared02.balt01.cd.2g2u.net) 03.07.24 # <[7]> final UMSboot v0.2 package: https://mega.co.nz/#!0MwAGSCZ!XKSwMwJWS4wvbRk_nTms5h5JVkJajHEtAQ1338HAx-o 03.07.35 # <[7]> works on ipod nano 2g, ipod nano 4g and ipod classic 03.50.44 Join ikeboy [0] (~dell@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 03.54.35 Quit ikeboy (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.58.11 Join ikeboy [0] (~dell@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 03.58.21 Quit ikeboy (Remote host closed the connection) 03.58.44 Join ikeboy [0] (~dell@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 04.20.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.23.21 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.23.21 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.23.22 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.23.22 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.23.24 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.23.26 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.28.05 Quit ikeboy (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.29.31 Join ikeboy [0] (~dell@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 04.54.21 Quit ikeboy (Quit: Ex-Chat) 04.59.32 Join telliott [0] (~Tim@68.179.137.177) 05.00.55 # Anyone have experiance with emcore? It's hard to find info on their wiki that isn't out dated 05.34.01 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-177.bitnet.nu) 05.41.15 Quit telliott (Quit: Leaving) 05.42.30 Nick DormantBrain is now known as SuperBrainAK (~andy@shared02.balt01.cd.2g2u.net) 05.45.03 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 05.45.16 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 06.20.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.35.26 Join tertu [0] (~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net) 07.32.25 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:27:773:0:feed:c0f:fee) 07.48.11 Join cbinvb [0] (~4430b44f@www.haxx.se) 07.48.49 # anyone home? 07.49.40 # quick question, does anyone know if the ipod 5.5 has fm radio? 07.49.46 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 07.50.05 # does anyone know if the ipod 5.5 has fm radio? 07.56.32 Quit cbinvb (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 08.02.31 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 08.02.32 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 08.06.05 Join saratoga [0] (123e1c0a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.28.10) 08.06.33 # cbinvb: i don't believe it has one built in, but i think it has accessories that do 08.20.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.29.41 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.42.37 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 08.50.21 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 08.51.20 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 09.02.39 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.06.13 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 09.10.22 Quit tertu (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.14.40 # does Rockbox support exFAT? 09.21.25 # can't find any mention of it in the logs, since saratoga's question about it 09.22.54 Quit bertrik (Read error: Operation timed out) 09.26.18 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.38.30 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 09.40.50 Quit bluebrother^ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 09.41.38 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 09.42.59 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g224236181.adsl.alicedsl.de) 09.44.31 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2a01:d0:ffff:34a::8:3) 09.50.03 # so...no devcon this year? :( 09.50.36 # hotel rooms in gent are not available anymore and petur lost interest in hosting :( 09.50.54 # copper: no 09.53.06 # <[Saint]> Ahhhhh...shit. 09.53.26 # <[Saint]> The Default EQ preset was removed. 09.53.33 # <[Saint]> ANd that one is actually useful. 09.55.06 # <[Saint]> copper: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/NoDo 09.55.41 # I see 09.57.47 # <[Saint]> kugel: I could host it here - we've got plenty of room. You guys would all "just" need to fly to Christchurch ;) 10.18.07 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.20.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.33.31 # <[Saint]> Hmmmm... 10.34.33 # <[Saint]> Why does |<< / >>| repeat press if held down with a mouse click in the sim but left/right clickwheel scroll doesn't? 10.35.12 # <[Saint]> works with keyboard, but not mouse. 10.35.54 # * [Saint] does realize that trying to use the clickwheel in a sim with a mouse is a terrible idea so no one needs to point that out ;-P 10.51.48 # kugel: just the 'cheaper' rooms nearby are lost, so either price goes up (if they still have other rooms left), or I need to look for another place. What troubles me most is that I wrote direct emails to all who expressed interest, and got little to no response 10.52.03 # so if nobody's really interested, why should I bother 10.52.21 # Not like I have tons of spare time anyway 10.54.18 # petur: I understand that 10.54.49 # if enough rooms are available (this is a small hotel), rate would be 42 euro/pp/night (based on room-sharing in double rooms I think) 10.55.58 # they kinda pissed me off not warning me in advance that another group wanted them, shortly after the deadline I got they just said they were now gone 10.58.20 # question remains, is anybody interested enough to make it happen this year? 10.59.23 # half of the usual visitors are not that active anymore anyway 11.07.06 # <[Saint]> copper: oh, here, I forgot - http://www.datafilehost.com/d/22c04561 11.07.18 # <[Saint]> (that's the iLike Video theme) 11.07.24 # <[Saint]> Have a play around. 11.07.44 # petur: obviousl I cant speak for the others but I'm still interested 11.08.15 # * petur figured that out already ;) 11.08.24 # but I acknowledge that currently there's not enough traction to make it happen 11.09.12 # only 8 people, to start with 11.10.37 # <[Saint]> copper: If you find a bug, let me know. Icons, scollbar, and the additional numeric information in the status bar are all off by default. You can turn on the additional numeric info from the Settings -> Theme Settings -> Status/Scrollbar -> Battery/Volume Display -> Numeric. You can display one or both, and they will justify right. 11.11.41 # <[Saint]> Its as close to "stock" Apple OF as I can get whilst still respecting Rockbox's display settings. 11.12.09 # <[Saint]> (and not making it a nightmarishly complicated skinned-list mess) 11.13.08 # Can I make a few remarks? 11.14.40 # you made the progress bar very wide, with time indicators below it instead of on its side, but the width of the bar is kinda odd 11.15.02 # it's so close to the left border of the artwork that I wonder why it's not aligned with it 11.15.32 # also, the volume bar has a completely different width, with volume indicators on its side, which is inconsistent 11.16.26 # The blue bar from iClassic Square is more regular, prettier IMO 11.17.38 # the font size in the menus is huge 11.17.53 # I don't much like the font itself, either 11.17.57 # looks like Comic Sans 11.18.08 # I know it can be changed by the user 11.19.09 # also, didn't you add some code to change colors for the volume and battery? I don't see it here. 11.23.02 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.212.214) 11.23.08 Quit pretty_function (Remote host closed the connection) 11.23.20 # ah shit 11.26.35 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 11.26.38 # <[Saint]> I did initially have it change colors, but I didn't add it back in after I switched to a single viewport - I'll add it back this evening. 11.26.58 # there's a problem 11.27.07 # With Rockbox, not your theme 11.28.27 # <[Saint]> In regard to positioning/placement, its all Apple. Apart from the additional numeric info in the status bar, its ~98% pixel identical to the iPod Video OF. 11.28.47 # <[Saint]> so, that's why its N wide, or placed blah - they did it. :) 11.31.04 # <[Saint]> with the font, its damn near impossible to find a myriad sans clone with decent glyph coverage and a permissive license - so that's just Ubuntu for now. 11.31.20 # <[Saint]> I do have a myriad sans font, but can't distribute it. 11.31.32 # %it doesn't return "Title" in .mpc files with the current build 11.31.47 # uh 11.32.04 # actually current build shows no metadata at all 11.32.17 # APEv2 11.33.08 # <[Saint]> I was playing with this just a few minutes ago with mp3 and it was working as I expected it to. 11.33.22 # <[Saint]> in a sim, though. with git head. 11.33.38 # running current git sim too 11.35.13 # er 11.35.50 # current build shows APEv2 tags fine on my Classic, but not in the sim 11.36.14 # <[Saint]> weird. 11.36.21 # <[Saint]> can't trest that (easily). 11.36.35 # <[Saint]> I don't have any APEv2 files. 11.36.38 # make them 11.36.57 # hold on 11.39.43 # [Saint]: http://outpost.fr/stuff/silence.mpc 11.45.34 # <[Saint]> iLike displays : silence/MPCv8 ?kbps/44.1KHz, cabbiev2 diaplays: silence/root/Music 11.45.49 # <[Saint]> ...so, yeah - if there is any metadata there, its skipping all of it. 11.45.55 # <[Saint]> those are all fallback cases. 11.46.06 # wait, it works with cabbiev2 o_O 11.46.25 # hmm no 11.46.29 # wtf is going on 11.46.54 # <[Saint]> No idea. Did it used to work? 11.49.32 Nick SuperBrainAK is now known as DormantBrain (~andy@shared02.balt01.cd.2g2u.net) 11.53.40 # wtf 11.54.02 # works fine on my Fuze+ but not on the sim 11.55.16 # pamaury: "first buttonpress enables backlight" doesn't seem to be working on the Fuze+ 11.58.07 # [Saint]: yes it used to work 11.58.19 # also, why does it work on the actual device, but not in the sim? 11.58.29 # <[Saint]> no idea. 11.59.22 # <[Saint]> I'll be back in a bit - server needs a restart. 11.59.31 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 12.00.40 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 12.01.27 # same deal with the Classic 12.04.16 # it also core dumps 12.04.23 # segfaults 12.04.58 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 12.04.58 Quit n1s (Changing host) 12.04.58 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 12.20.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.24.21 # this rockbox "default setting" thing is annoying 12.24.47 # if a theme specifies an icon set, and then you switch to a theme that doesn't, you're stuff with the icon set of the previous theme, and there's no way to change it 12.24.55 # stuck* 12.25.15 # though it made me realize that the default icon set wasn't appropriate for my Classic theme 12.30.03 # copper: you mean first press is ignored and enables backlight ? 12.31.35 # if yes this has been broken on device since the beginning 12.31.51 # actually that's called "ignore first press on backlight" I think 12.37.46 # pamaury: nope, it's named exactly like I quoted it 12.37.59 # er 12.38.07 # "first buttonpress enables backlight only" 12.38.45 # bbl, I'll try to bisect the APEv2 sim oddity when I get back 13.02.01 Join robin0800 [0] (~Robin0800@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 13.19.11 # copper: this has been broken on the device for a long time 13.33.50 # could someone with an idea about make take a look at g#496? 13.33.53 # bluebrother: I just crashed 13.34.22 # poor fs-bluebot 13.47.00 Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 13.50.54 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E41118.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.56.36 Quit rdn (Remote host closed the connection) 13.58.14 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14.20.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.25.32 # [Saint]: ok it's a Linux problem, apparently 14.25.50 # the latest win32 sim builds from rasher don't have the APEv2 problem 14.58.30 Quit stoffel (Read error: Operation timed out) 15.07.05 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 15.11.21 Quit onder` (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 15.13.06 Join onder` [0] (~onder@24.244.89.228) 15.15.47 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 15.18.24 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:27:773:0:feed:c0f:fee) 15.18.34 Quit DexterLB (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 15.51.59 # [Saint], pamaury, gevaerts: fyi, the new USB code base has been committed to freemyipod SVN 15.51.59 # if anyone turns up here complaining that the UMSboot drive doesn't mount on windows, tell them to try the beta bootstrapper: https://mega.co.nz/#!4Ao2nKTQ!Ct21yFwgxN-kWQL0zsQmjFDvyMsvKipt8TvrSvYUMs8 16.12.16 Join maruk [0] (~papier@titanium.v6.sdv.fr) 16.16.20 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 16.20.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.38.08 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E41118.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.40.47 Quit maruk (Quit: Leaving.) 16.41.05 Join maruk [0] (~papier@titanium.v6.sdv.fr) 16.41.14 Quit thegeek_ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 16.47.47 Join krabador [0] (~krabador_@unaffiliated/krabador) 16.53.34 Join thegeek [0] (~thegeek@60.36.34.95.customer.cdi.no) 17.03.44 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 17.28.44 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@77-85-0-255.btc-net.bg) 17.47.05 Quit petur (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 17.47.20 Join tertu [0] (~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net) 18.04.20 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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While in theory you should be able to build just one plugin, in practice it doesn't really work reliably 22.43.41 # Our makefiles work well enough to only rebuild the plugin you're working on though 22.45.27 # That's cool. 22.45.41 # Hm, biggish git repo 22.45.46 # This is gonna take a while... 22.46.17 # naw, it's only like 140mb :) 22.46.27 # try checking out Android :p 22.47.05 # Lot of history, though. 22.47.11 # Takes a while to create the hg repo from it. 22.47.22 # * JordiGH should look into speeding up hg-git. 22.47.37 # Maybe I should just make it use libgit instead of Dulwich. 22.47.38 # at this point i would suggest using git 22.47.45 # gross though it is, it's won 22.47.46 # No, git is a piece of shit, I avoid it like the plague. 22.47.54 # and you're just making yourself suffer :) 22.48.22 # I'd rather wait than touch that piece of shit. 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