--- Log for 04.08.113 Server: pratchett.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 9 days and 5 hours ago 00.05.41 Quit y4n (Quit: PÆNTS ØLF!) 00.11.55 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@184.76.254.130) 00.22.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.25.04 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.26.39 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 00.27.17 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 01.07.13 Quit ender` (Quit: Computers are terrific - they beget terror.) 01.21.01 Join kilroy [0] (~dewlap@2001:5c0:1400:a::633) 01.24.08 Quit dewlap (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 02.05.52 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 02.06.06 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 02.16.51 Join rdn [0] (~oop@cpe-69-204-124-212.buffalo.res.rr.com) 02.22.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.22.12 Join tertu [0] (~tertu@65-128-181-81.mpls.qwest.net) 02.26.01 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0/20130729175331]) 03.19.30 Nick DormantBrain is now known as SuperBrainAK (~andy@shared02.balt01.cd.2g2u.net) 03.21.03 Join webguest24 [0] (~6cc3901a@www.haxx.se) 03.21.22 Quit webguest24 (Client Quit) 03.22.35 Join Preston [0] (~6cc3901a@www.haxx.se) 03.23.40 Quit Epicanis (Quit: back in a bit, switching devices...) 03.38.03 # I am currently stuck in an interesting situation, for the device I have installed RockBox onto has just crashed, probably due to an overload in the hard disk drive. I am considerably new to the software and I was wondering if anyone if anyone has experienced this issue (for it has prevented me from utilizing a boot or even just the native keys of the device) and if anyone has a solution to the problem. I am currently using an iPod Mini 2nd generation with 03.40.59 Quit Preston (Quit: CGI:IRC) 03.41.06 Join Preston [0] (~6cc3901a@www.haxx.se) 03.45.51 Quit Preston (Client Quit) 04.05.24 Quit habys (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.14.40 Join habys [0] (~luke@arikui.org) 04.19.32 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.19.33 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.19.37 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.19.41 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.19.42 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.19.44 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.22.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.43.16 Join arowana [0] (~quassel@116.73.209.80) 04.45.07 # [Saint]: What do u know, got iPod 80GB replaced at apple support , and got 160GB in xchange. 04.45.56 Nick SuperBrainAK is now known as DormantBrain (~andy@shared02.balt01.cd.2g2u.net) 05.01.04 Quit arowana (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) 05.02.37 Quit habys (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.06.19 Join habys [0] (~luke@arikui.org) 05.35.35 # NOBODY HELPED ME WITHIN 7 MINUTES 05.38.03 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 05.38.13 Join [7] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.46.43 # <[Saint]> ...and the award for "Most Convincing Attempt to Word a Support Request like a Victorian Novel" goes to.... 05.54.14 Quit habys (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.55.43 Join habys [0] (~luke@arikui.org) 06.22.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.38.32 # lol hey i talk like that too :) 07.08.28 Join dewlap [0] (~dewlap@2001:5c0:1400:a::13d) 07.11.14 Quit kilroy (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07.12.22 Join kilroy [0] (~dewlap@2001:0:4137:9e76:3c89:1094:b815:38b6) 07.14.04 Join traps [0] (~dewlap@2001:5c0:1400:a::4c1) 07.14.09 Quit dewlap (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07.17.04 Quit kilroy (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07.30.26 Quit sciopath (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 07.34.08 Quit shamus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.35.27 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:0:c38c:c38c:1c87:affb:3d69:be86) 07.36.04 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 07.45.49 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 08.00.15 Quit DexterLB (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 08.00.56 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:0:c38c:c38c:3025:5750:3d69:be86) 08.02.17 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@77-85-17-105.btc-net.bg) 08.22.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.49.07 Join pp [0] (~1b2257dc@www.haxx.se) 08.49.31 Nick pp is now known as Guest75531 (~1b2257dc@www.haxx.se) 08.51.03 Join pawan [0] (~pawan@27.34.87.220) 08.51.38 Quit Guest75531 (Client Quit) 08.52.06 # I tried to install rockbox on sansa clip+, but every time I get the error saying "Could not write firmware file". What could be causing the error? 09.09.35 Quit bzed (Remote host closed the connection) 09.10.28 Quit pawan (Quit: Leaving) 09.10.30 Join bzed [0] (~bzed@devel.recluse.de) 09.12.24 Join sciopath [0] (~sciop@yer91-2-82-237-54-159.fbx.proxad.net) 09.14.16 Quit copper (Quit: leaving) 09.39.58 Quit DexterLB (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 09.41.57 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@79-100-19-16.btc-net.bg) 09.45.19 Quit bzed (Remote host closed the connection) 09.45.35 Join copper [0] (~copper@88-191-185-110.rev.dedibox.fr) 09.45.36 Nick copper is now known as Guest84242 (~copper@88-191-185-110.rev.dedibox.fr) 09.47.00 Join bzed [0] (~bzed@devel.recluse.de) 09.48.04 Quit Guest84242 (Client Quit) 10.07.10 Quit DexterLB (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 10.09.30 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@79.100.5.0) 10.22.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.28.58 Join copper [0] (~copper@unaffiliated/copper) 10.30.16 # Is the sandisk e280 any good? 10.57.52 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 10.58.29 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E405B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.21.50 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.47.05 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 11.52.02 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 11.52.45 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.53.51 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-177.bitnet.nu) 12.02.36 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 12.02.36 Quit n1s (Changing host) 12.02.36 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 12.05.19 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 12.13.29 # SrRaven: yes the e280 is rather good but it's getting very old now... 12.22.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.04.59 Join dirtydav [0] (~4a2e06c1@www.haxx.se) 13.05.06 Quit dirtydav (Client Quit) 13.07.09 Join dirtydav [0] (~david@74-46-6-193.dr01.cols.ca.frontiernet.net) 14.09.44 # k 14.09.55 # but worth the 5 bucks? 14.10.41 # I'd say *any* player is worth that if it's fully working 14.11.43 # im just either too stupid or not able to see how the E280 rockbox is (stable or unstable) 14.11.56 # stable 14.12.12 # It's e200 series 14.13.34 Join robin0800 [0] (~Robin0800@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 14.13.39 # just need an emergency mp3 player for my bloody cowon s9 which fails regurlarly 14.15.07 # the e200 is stable and works well, I would say it's worth it as a backup player 14.16.49 # http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=1887 14.16.55 # looks like MS WMP :) 14.22.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.22.35 Join MarcAndersen [0] (~marc@94.191.187.141.mobile.3.dk) 14.24.07 # hi. would it be possible to make the voice in rockbox to speak the file properties and song information windows? 14.25.21 # <[Saint]> Only if you pre-recorded *every possible string*, by my understanding. 14.26.15 # we don't have a TTS engine in rockbox, that was the goal of one of the google summer of code a few years ago and it didn't suceed 14.27.02 # but all the letters and numbers are there, and that would be fine for me if someone is interested in helping me 14.27.02 # <[Saint]> though, by my understanding, it fell over more because of application from the student than technical impossibility. 14.29.23 # @pamaury how it is going with the zen x-fi port? 14.29.25 # Spelling out the info should indeed be possible 14.29.42 # Well 14.29.43 # hmm 14.29.50 # * gevaerts doesn't know! 14.34.47 # MarcAndersen: I haven't done much progress recently, I don't have the time. Last time I worked on it I had the internal storage, sd card, buttons. So pretty much everything was ok except that the screen code is unstable, it works but sometimes it becomes garbage 14.35.31 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 14.36.46 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 14.38.51 Quit robin0800 (Quit: KVIrc 4.3.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) 14.39.09 Join robin0800 [0] (~Robin0800@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 14.40.05 # pamaury: do you have a test port i can try? 14.41.17 Quit rdn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.42.36 # no, I only have the bootloader for now which makes it pretty useless 14.43.18 # i hope we get it working some time, i can't really use it without rockbox 14.43.55 # and there is an issue with the install: it requires a special tool to upload the firmware, not that easy to integrate in rockbox utility 14.44.23 # that's too bad 14.44.49 # for a start we can upload a prebuilt binary for this tool but in the future we need to do something better 14.45.14 # but back to the voice thing: i hope that that can be made possible. 14.47.41 # someone did some work some time ago but he said he stopped for personal reasons, the code is here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/7660 that was mostly a proof of concept 14.48.18 # are there someone that could continue it? 14.48.27 # <[Saint]> ...you? 14.48.37 # <[Saint]> You want it. :) 14.48.45 # that's the problem, we don't, not so many people are willing to develop rockbox these days 14.50.01 # <[Saint]> No one is born learning how to do such things, everyone who can learned how at some point. You're able to as well. 14.50.05 Join mirak [0] (~mirak@5-49-104-130.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 14.50.26 # <[Saint]> (that doesn't sound quite as encouraging as I'd liked) 14.51.10 Part mirak 14.52.05 # if i should do that, i would need some help. maybe i will try to find a freelancer then 14.53.30 # <[Saint]> Certainly. People would be more than willing to give you some help here. However, it would be more along the lines of the Rockbox core systems, rather than "C for Beginners". 14.53.59 # <[Saint]> The latter can be addressed from multiple sources. 14.55.41 # but how do i even start to create something for rockbox? 14.58.05 # <[Saint]> I am unsure I follow the question. 14.58.25 # <[Saint]> If I do understand, learning C is a rather crucial step. 14.59.07 # <[Saint]> Once you can at least understand some of the language it is written in, it stops being magic, and becomes a set of instruction. 14.59.41 Quit Guest7017 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14.59.55 # i can only write in autoit and a game variant based on angel script 15.00.00 # <[Saint]> It sounds daunting. But it really isn't. 15.00.22 # you have to learn C, first start on your computer. Then the best way is probably to write some plugins for rockbox, which is like writing a small program. And finally hack rockbox itself 15.00.33 # <[Saint]> Most people can pick up the basics in a week or so, in their free time, with freely available online guides. 15.04.00 # <[Saint]> The trick is starting simple. People often get discouraged when they want to do things they expect should be simple and later find out that it is a lot more complicated than they first thought. 15.04.16 # <[Saint]> I'll freely admit I did this myself. 15.07.28 # [Saint] almost tempted me to learn C/C++ :D 15.07.43 # but no, I'll stick to my themes :D 15.09.10 # i give up 15.10.35 # good bye for now 15.10.43 Part MarcAndersen 15.11.05 Join Guest7017 [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 15.12.11 # [Saint]: you are not a good marketing guy ;) 15.12.58 # * pamaury is completely unable to read a theme code 15.15.16 # just look at CustomWPS on wiki (sorry [Saint] :P ) and you'll be able to do it in 5 minutes 15.16.03 # I prefer not to ^^ the day themes can be written in Lua i'll buy it :p 15.17.17 # I have close to 0 XP in graphism/design/style anyway :) 15.33.43 # <[Saint]> the theme code is amusing. 15.34.48 # <[Saint]> Its even difficult sometimes for me to read someone else's theme code due to having my own style. 15.40.50 # Serious question, if you guys are actually programmers, how hard is stuff like coding rockbox for a device ? I am starting my CS degree in October and im curious about the hardware part 15.48.48 # it depends 15.49.23 # usually programming is not the hard part, what can be hard is to understand how the hardware works 15.51.37 # so in an idea world, you should know about how OSes work, at least have a grasp about how hardware work and of course so knowledge of the architecture (ARM for example) 15.52.34 # but you can learn most of it on the fly by asking questions 15.53.04 # about porting to a new device, it range from easy to very hard, depending on the existing code and the documentation available 15.54.39 # so how does it work mostly ? like do you reverse engineer firmware updates ? 15.58.18 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15.59.40 # yes usually you have to reverse engineer firmware updates to get some information 15.59.57 # usually this is needed for the lcd and for GPIOs 16.00.59 Join funman_ [0] (~fun@altair.via.ecp.fr) 16.01.05 Nick funman_ is now known as funman (~fun@altair.via.ecp.fr) 16.01.33 Quit funman (Changing host) 16.01.33 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 16.02.55 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:0:c38c:c38c:3025:5750:3d69:be86) 16.22.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.41.58 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 17.26.05 Join krabador [0] (~krabador_@unaffiliated/krabador) 17.34.02 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9EE8E71.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.22.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.59.51 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:27:773:0:feed:c0f:fee) 19.23.12 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 19.37.55 Quit Rower (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 19.38.37 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-177.bitnet.nu) 19.42.52 # anyone here with a sansa clip ever needed to repair it ? 19.42.59 # I got one with a wobbly headphone jack input 19.47.42 # SrRaven: the clip v1 ? 19.47.46 # ehh 19.48.08 # says clip+ 19.48.28 # I don't remember, I think i've heard this for the clip zip 19.52.11 # hmm,used too much force to "rip" it open 19.52.48 # but yeh the headphone jack is so wobbly I can take it off 19.52.50 # * SrRaven needs to solder it 19.56.04 # anyone broken headphone jack is a rather common problem with mp3 players 19.57.42 # Also gonna consider repairing my headphone cable myself 19.57.50 # fcking replacement cables cost 60 € 19.58.05 # how much were the headphones? 19.58.32 # 160 19.58.40 # <[Saint]> yay for subtext? :-S 19.59.18 # 60 still sounds quite a rip off 19.59.44 # Well sennheiser :/ 20.00.37 # at least it's replaceable.. 20.00.57 # well yes but not cheap :P 20.00.58 Quit robin0800 (Disconnected by services) 20.01.24 Join robin0800 [0] (~Robin0800@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 20.01.46 # my koss porta pros need a new cable as well. still trying to find something decent 20.02.43 Quit n1s (Read error: Connection timed out) 20.03.50 # yeh next time im repairing this mofo myself 20.03.56 # its aaaaaaaalways the fucking headphone jack 20.22.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.53.51 Quit ender` (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.57.41 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.02.34 Quit tertu (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 21.02.57 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 21.04.14 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 21.04.48 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@2001:610:76a:0:d4f9:2a9c:7fa0:65b6) 21.04.48 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 21.04.48 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 21.05.24 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 21.36.20 Quit copper (Quit: leaving) 21.57.53 # [7]: I'm working on my firmware patcher, I think I will implement that with lua scripting, it will be easier than any command line interface 21.58.34 # * [7] admits that he has never even closely looked at lua, let alone done anything with it :P 22.00.22 # oh my, finally something the great [7] doesn't know ! ;) 22.04.38 # * [7] isn't so great anymore ;) 22.12.52 Join kiwicam [0] (~quassel@101.98.163.139) 22.20.33 Join copper [0] (~copper@unaffiliated/copper) 22.22.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.27.29 Quit y4n (Quit: HOLY SHIT! 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