--- Log for 05.08.113 Server: pratchett.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 10 days and 6 hours ago 00.22.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.42.09 Quit Belzebub (Quit: leaving) 00.54.32 Nick DormantBrain is now known as SuperBrainAK (~andy@shared02.balt01.cd.2g2u.net) 00.56.25 Quit ender` (Quit: I used to believe in reincarnation, but that was in a previous life.) 00.56.46 Quit Guest7017 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01.08.14 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01.28.14 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 01.53.07 # could Rockbox support USB DAC? 01.53.46 # on Hifiman HM602 for example 01.55.52 # I read somewhere "[...]Moreover it has USB DAC. Can't wait for Rockbox to be finalized on this device". 01.56.33 # I'm not sure there is a link between USB DAC support and stable port :) 01.58.09 # oh 01.58.10 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/HifimanPort 01.58.15 # USB DAC (602/603/801) 100% Working 02.22.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.27.24 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0/20130729175331]) 02.39.41 Join tertu [0] (~tertu@184-97-154-121.mpls.qwest.net) 02.45.27 Quit tertu (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 02.45.50 Join tertu [0] (~tertu@184-97-154-121.mpls.qwest.net) 02.50.31 Quit tertu (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 03.05.05 Quit robin0800 (Quit: KVIrc 4.3.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) 03.23.29 Quit mirak (Quit: Ex-Chat) 03.58.58 Join rdn [0] (~oop@cpe-69-204-124-212.buffalo.res.rr.com) 04.18.28 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.18.28 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.18.28 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.18.28 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.22.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.32.50 Join krabador [0] (~krabador_@unaffiliated/krabador) 05.21.31 Nick x56 is now known as woolhook (~0x56@sillytitties.com) 05.33.51 Quit rdn (Remote host closed the connection) 05.35.07 Join rdn [0] (~oop@cpe-69-204-124-212.buffalo.res.rr.com) 05.36.38 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 05.36.47 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 06.02.49 # * [Saint] has sucessfully cleaned up the problem he had with the volume change animation blocking seeking with a disturbingly beautiful/simple conditional statement. 06.05.47 Quit yosafbridge` (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) 06.08.11 Quit krabador (Quit: Sto andando via) 06.18.04 Nick woolhook is now known as x56 (~0x56@sillytitties.com) 06.22.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.40.35 Join yosafbridge [0] (~yosafbrid@li125-242.members.linode.com) 06.43.13 Quit Jinx (Quit: reboot) 07.10.51 Quit mrtux (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 07.16.04 Join mrtux [0] (~colin@75-167-102-226.desm.qwest.net) 07.51.01 Join mortalis [0] (~kvirc@213.33.220.118) 07.53.08 Join olspookishmagus [0] (~pookie@84.205.241.1) 08.19.59 Quit mortalis (Remote host closed the connection) 08.20.42 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.22.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.43.57 Quit Kohlrabi (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) 08.44.06 Join Kohlrabi [0] (~kohlrabi@kohlio.de) 08.49.55 Nick SuperBrainAK is now known as DormantBrain (~andy@shared02.balt01.cd.2g2u.net) 09.06.11 Join LinusN [0] (linus@giant.haxx.se) 09.17.54 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.33.04 Join petur2 [0] (~petur@91.183.48.77) 09.35.55 Quit petur (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 09.36.14 Nick petur2 is now known as petur (~petur@91.183.48.77) 09.36.22 Quit petur (Changing host) 09.36.22 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.00.49 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@sestofw01.enea.se) 10.00.49 Quit Zagor (Changing host) 10.00.49 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 10.03.35 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10.14.17 Join mortalis [0] (~kvirc@213.33.220.118) 10.22.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.46.34 Quit copper (Quit: leaving) 10.49.03 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 11.14.27 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:27:773:0:feed:c0f:fee) 11.21.06 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.33.57 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 11.34.13 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 11.35.08 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 11.37.35 Join copper [0] (~copper@unaffiliated/copper) 11.54.38 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11.54.51 Quit Provel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.55.15 Join Provel [0] (~Provel@75-132-18-44.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 12.08.34 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 12.10.57 Join jlbiasini [0] (~metaphysi@d86-32-123-32.cust.tele2.at) 12.11.13 # pamaury: ping 12.12.30 # jlbiasini: pong 12.13.04 # I have a question, did you already send me back my old fuze+? 12.13.25 # the one with the intern memory problem? 12.13.28 # no, but I can 12.13.55 # that would be nice because I just lost/get stolen of my actual one 12.14.25 # oh that's sad, can you PM me your address ? 12.14.43 # regarding the bootloader you told me you found a way to have it boot from the sd 12.15.12 # but will i'll be able to upgrade it to the last version? 12.15.38 # ok I will pm you 12.16.29 # Yes, i'll explain the procedure to you, actually it's pretty simple under linux, just proper partitioning of the card and a dd command 12.17.14 # Unfortunately I don't have a spare micro sd card otherwise I would have sent you a one with it 12.19.13 # I will have to buy one anyway... 12.19.37 # that's great 12.19.50 # thanks 12.20.27 # for the moment I'm still travelling but I will have time to go on with my patches next week 12.22.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.24.18 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 12.25.53 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 12.26.49 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 12.31.15 # lebellium: Usb DAC works on Hifimans only because it's absolutelly hardware controlled on those DAPs. Rockbox itself doesn't have any USB DAC related code. Though AFAIK pamary did some work in this direction. 12.32.27 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2a01:d0:ffff:34a::8:3) 12.42.50 Quit jlbiasini (Quit: jlbiasini) 12.43.44 Join pookie_ [0] (~pookie@host-84-205-241-1.cpe.syzefxis.ote.gr) 12.45.10 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.45.35 # mortalis: oh ok interesting. But how does it work with Rockbox then? 12.46.13 Quit olspookishmagus (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.47.06 # if there is no rockbox code, I wonder how it works 12.55.15 # I don't know how the hifiman works but that be achieved in many ways. The obvious one is a usb bridge which does mass storage + dac at the same time and thus all usb is hardware controlled. Or it could be a usb hud with one device being the dac and the other the chip itself (software controlled) 12.55.37 # I would need to see the inside of the hifiman to know exactly or know the chips inside 12.58.06 Quit DexterLB (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.58.41 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@79.100.5.0) 13.12.00 # lebellium: pamaury: There is chip cm108ah. And there are to usb ports on DAP, one for the storage another for usb DAC, connected to this chip. There is also tumbler on DAP, which switches source for I2S traffic (rk27xx/cm108ah) 13.13.18 # ah, then it's not a mystery 13.28.15 Quit DexterLB (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 13.34.04 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@79.100.5.0) 13.43.47 Quit DexterLB (Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish) 13.45.04 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@79.100.5.0) 13.57.17 # <[Saint]> JdGordon: ping? 14.00.27 # <[Saint]> Apparently I'm misremembering. 14.01.03 # <[Saint]> It seems there's no way to be able to switch foreground colors conditionally in a partial line? 14.02.24 # <[Saint]> As in, you can do "04foo 09bar 02baz01", on a single line, in the same viewport, can you? 14.02.38 # <[Saint]> *can't 14.05.11 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 14.05.11 Quit liar (Client Quit) 14.08.25 # [Saint]: correct 14.08.30 # umm 14.08.45 # well, using %vF (?) *might* work 14.08.48 # but probably not 14.09.54 # <[Saint]> its supposed to deal with an entire line, or until the next color tag, else the whole viewport - I seem to be misremembering. 14.10.29 # <[Saint]> I had a vague idea it was possible to do this, but I'll just split the sections out into viewports, no biggie. 14.10.45 # <[Saint]> I just wanted to check I wasn' 14.10.51 # <[Saint]> t missing something. 14.13.39 # it might be possible, depends how the tag works 14.13.42 # errr... yeah no 14.13.49 # the whole line is drawn in one hit 14.13.50 # so no 14.22.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.51.06 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 14.56.06 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 15.11.23 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 15.13.34 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 15.14.23 Quit pookie_ (Quit: free() the malloc()) 15.15.10 Quit DexterLB (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.15.13 Join Dexter_LB [0] (~dex@79.100.5.0) 15.40.44 Quit Dexter_LB (Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish) 15.41.17 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@79.100.5.0) 15.45.05 Quit mortalis (Quit: KVIrc 4.3.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) 15.49.37 Quit DexterLB (Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish) 15.50.43 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@79.100.5.0) 15.59.21 Quit lebellium (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.59.52 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 16.04.24 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 16.05.06 Part LinusN 16.07.07 Quit DexterLB (Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish) 16.08.15 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@79.100.5.0) 16.22.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.35.29 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 16.37.09 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 17.00.24 Join ikeboy [0] (~dell@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 17.00.47 Quit ikeboy (Remote host closed the connection) 17.01.05 Join ikeboy [0] (~dell@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 17.06.32 Join krabador [0] (~krabador_@unaffiliated/krabador) 17.11.38 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 17.40.22 Quit petur (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 17.51.32 Quit ikeboy (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.51.52 Quit rdn (Remote host closed the connection) 18.00.33 Quit shamus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.00.41 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 18.22.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.23.39 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:27:773:0:feed:c0f:fee) 18.24.29 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 18.27.51 Join godzirra [0] (~godzirra@208.110.69.202) 18.27.53 # Hi guys. 18.30.04 # I've googled a bit, but can't find anything about it. I have a Sansa Clip Zip, and ofr some reason I keep hearing what I can only describe as "blips". I'm not sure what I can do to fix it or if its a known problem. 18.31.33 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 18.31.33 Quit n1s (Changing host) 18.31.33 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 18.35.43 # godzirra: that sounds like "CPU noise" 18.35.49 # when switching tracks? 18.35.49 # godzirra: what version of rockbox are you running? 18.35.51 # pausing? 18.36.02 # copper: no, just in the middle of the song playing. 18.36.05 # amayer: One moment, let me check. 18.36.26 # 3.13 18.37.27 # very odd 18.38.47 # <[Saint]> godzirra: how often do these "blips" occur? 18.40.06 # Around every 30 seconds or so? Give or take. 18.40.35 # Its not a uniform time. 18.40.39 # <[Saint]> what type of files are you playing? 18.40.50 # one sec, switching servers. 18.40.54 Quit godzirra (Quit: Changing server) 18.41.03 Join godzirra [0] (~godzirra@208.110.69.202) 18.43.44 # So yeah. Every few minutes. 18.43.58 # <[Saint]> what type of files are these? 18.44.01 # err every 30ish seconds. 18.44.02 # mp3. 18.44.29 # <[Saint]> Hum. So its probably not rebuffering. 18.45.00 # <[Saint]> and I doubt it to be cpu noise as the cpu basically never needs to boost in this thing. 18.45.07 # <[Saint]> it may be, though. 18.46.25 # Is there anything I can do to test what it may be or to affect it? 18.57.11 # the clip+ is subject to storage noise I think, maybe the clip zip is too 18.58.21 # Well that's unfortunate. :/ Is there another cheap player that can actually be bought in this day and age that doesn't? 18.58.35 # Assuming there's nothing I can do about this one? 18.58.52 # rockboxable, you mean? 18.59.30 # Of course. 19.02.23 # well, the list is here: http://www.rockbox.org/ 19.02.49 # IME unstable ports are good enough 19.12.23 # TheSeven: here is an example of what a lua script for the patcher look like: https://gist.github.com/pamaury/6157618 19.13.18 # IME unstable? Okay. 19.13.32 # There's nothing I can do about the blips currently? 19.13.58 # bertrik knows a lot of clip zip, maybe he knows 19.17.34 Join Jinx [0] (~Jinx@unaffiliated/jinx) 19.18.25 # I'll hold out for him and see if he knows hten. 19.18.29 # I appreciate your guys' help. 19.34.37 Join ikeboy [0] (~dell@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 19.45.14 Quit ikeboy (Remote host closed the connection) 19.45.21 Join saratoga [0] (123e1c0a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.28.10) 19.45.22 # what do these artifacts sound like? 19.53.55 Join ikeboy [0] (~dell@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 19.54.02 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 19.55.01 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 20.08.15 Join SovonHalder [0] (SovonHalde@115.187.44.181) 20.09.32 Join ikeboy_ [0] (~dell@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 20.09.43 Quit ikeboy_ (Client Quit) 20.12.18 # Cooper: Hi, if you are here,pls reply. 20.13.18 # I saw you modified the theme. do I need to update your older one in my iPod ? 20.14.55 Nick DormantBrain is now known as SuperBrainAK (~andy@shared02.balt01.cd.2g2u.net) 20.15.40 Quit ikeboy (Remote host closed the connection) 20.16.39 # the name's copper 20.16.52 # need to? no 20.17.31 # "UPDATE 2013/07/21: fixed the blinking line bug. UPDATE 2013/08/01: smaller icon set, more appropriate for the chosen font and size (reload the theme to take effect)." 20.17.34 # that's it 20.17.41 # the icons look better 20.17.55 # you already got the blinking line bugfix 20.18.21 # there's no reason you should not update 20.18.27 # unless you can't be bothered 20.21.03 Quit ender^ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 20.22.04 # saratoga: I can't really describe it. Kind of like a blip/scratch? 20.22.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.24.31 # Oo...sorry I missed with your name..forgive me 20.25.12 # Huh? 20.25.33 # np 20.25.40 # saratoga: oh. you joined after I was talking about it, so were you talking about me? 20.25.41 # godzirra: can you record it maybe? 20.25.43 # err. to me? 20.25.49 # copper: How do I record? I can try. 20.25.58 # do you have a sound card with a line-in? 20.26.03 # I do not. :/ 20.26.15 # I was hoping there was a way to do it within the player. 20.26.28 # hmm, not that I know of 20.26.48 # do you have a sound card at all? 20.26.55 # do you have a PC or laptop? 20.27.01 # At home. I guess I can plug it into the mic on my macbook and see if it works. 20.27.19 # I think the macbook has a line-in 20.27.37 # It has a mic input. Not sure if that's the s ame as a line in. 20.28.14 # ugh, the current macbook pro only has a headphone out 20.28.15 # geez 20.28.32 # Mine has mic in. 20.28.37 # I have last gen. 20.28.49 # anyway, you can try to record it with a mini-jack to mini-jack cable, and Audacity: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ 20.29.21 # Ha. Its using my mic on the macbook, not the line in. 20.29.46 # the recording doesn't necessarily need to be perfect 20.29.48 Quit GodEater (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 20.29.54 # just good enough to get an idea of what you're hearing 20.32.45 # Copper: Is there any way you could consider adding a little play-pause indicating button beside the '-dB' that could indicate if songs are being played or is it paused? And a 'Next Song' indicator could be the ultimate touch. However the desicion rests entirely upto you, I'm just saying that I have my utmost faith in your work here, so whatever you choose to do, I'll have to use it. 20.32.48 # Hrm. My 30 second clip has no blips in it. I can't seem to get it to blip again. :/ 20.32.55 # I've got to run for a meeting, but I'll try again as soon as I get back. 20.33.14 Join ender^ [0] (~ender1@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 20.33.17 # SovonHalder: yeah the play/pause thing has been in the back of my head for a while 20.33.52 # SovonHalder: I'll see what I can do, I'll just drop you an email when I have something, ok? 20.34.26 # godzirra: that's usually how it goes 20.34.42 # you always get the bug when you don't want it, and when you want it, it's gone :D 20.34.45 # May I ask the approximate time when I can expect the mail from you? 20.34.52 # lol 20.34.58 # what? 20.35.11 # this isn't… like… an office 20.35.20 Join GodEater [0] (~whoknows@cl-711.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) 20.35.41 Quit mrtux (Changing host) 20.35.41 Join mrtux [0] (~colin@unaffiliated/mrtux) 20.36.12 # SovonHalder: I'll also tell you what [Saint] told me: learning how to code Rockbox themes isn't all that hard, you could easily modify whatever theme you like, for yourself 20.36.17 # I mean when do you think your work on that would be finalized.that's all..nothing heavy..I'm requesting..nothing else 20.36.33 # I can't give you an ETA 20.36.34 # sorry 20.36.45 # it's okay 20.37.29 # if the sound cuts out its probably some kind of problem with the file or the CPU being overloaded and skipping 20.37.52 # how to code rockbox theme anyway / 20.37.55 # ? 20.38.36 # SovonHalder: download a theme, check out the files, and read this: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWPS 20.39.03 # not saying I'm not going to look into your suggestions, just sayin' it isn't hard to modify a theme exactly to your liking 20.39.21 # I had my own needs, so that's what I did 20.39.34 # my themes are just that: themes that meet my own needs 20.39.39 # if other people like them, cool 20.44.37 # Well..thank you for the link.. It's like an entire Chinese dictionary to me.. 20.46.56 # nah 20.47.01 # it really isn't that complicated 20.47.17 # is there no GUI based application ? 20.47.22 # look at the files of a simple theme (mine is pretty simple), look up the codes on that wiki to see what they mean 20.47.35 # I'm afraid not. 20.54.36 # copper: Story of the life of a software developer. 20.56.06 # copper: not exactly: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ThemeEditor 20.56.15 # Well that's unfortunate. :/ Is there another cheap player that can actually be bought in this day and age that doesn't? 20.56.23 # though unfortunately it hasn't been updated in quite a while 20.56.26 # there's the Fuze+, which I like very much, but most people don't. 20.56.49 # bluebrother^: you're telling me NOW? :D 20.56.53 # Ah ha 20.56.53 # got one 20.57.13 # sure. Should I have done that earlier? 20.57.21 # just messin' with you 20.57.50 # didn't take that too serious anyway :) 20.58.16 # but it would be nice if soneone wants to pick up maintaining the editor 20.58.29 # Hrm. Where's a good place to uplaod it to? 20.58.52 # godzirra: got no Google Drive or Dropbox? 20.59.01 # I thought everyone had that 20.59.09 # not on my work macbook :) 20.59.23 # audiour.com ftw 20.59.52 # why did you ask then? 21.00.01 # I asked before I googled. My mistake. :/ 21.00.04 # lol 21.00.05 # http://audiour.com/playlist/4tb2wizp 21.00.07 # 14 seconds in. 21.00.11 # not asking would have been too easy :) 21.00.13 # That's what it sounds like. 21.00.30 Quit dirtydav (Quit: Leaving) 21.00.37 # sounds like a corrupted MP3 21.00.52 # It doesn't happen at the same point every time though. Could a corrupted mp3 do that? 21.01.01 # or corrupted filesystem 21.01.13 # same question as above. :) 21.01.18 # but for filesystem. 21.01.56 # well, the playback system sounds like it's getting bad data 21.01.57 # somehow 21.02.09 # crap. 21.02.12 # I'll let someone else venture a guess as to why 21.02.13 # It is happening at the same time. 21.02.17 # Every time. 21.02.20 # So you may be right. 21.02.23 # oh. 21.02.23 # I'll try re-copying it. 21.02.28 Quit SovonHalder () 21.02.32 # play it on your mac 21.02.36 # see if you get a glitch 21.02.44 # Let me plug it in and copy. 21.02.48 # Crap. I hope I have a micro sd cable. 21.03.16 # of course not. 21.03.18 # let me find someone with one 21.04.01 # how did you copy the file in the first place? 21.05.45 # At home :) 21.08.12 # Figures. Everyone's at lunch. 21.13.17 # yeah that sounds like a bad frame in the mp3 file 21.14.04 # its usually a good idea to make clear when you hear an obviously digital artifact like that that its digital and not something like analog noise 21.14.15 # otherwise people will tend to assume its analog noise since you dind't mention it 21.38.50 Nick SuperBrainAK is now known as DormantBrain (~andy@shared02.balt01.cd.2g2u.net) 21.40.46 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.49.26 Quit [Saint] (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 21.49.27 # saratoga: how would normal people know the difference? 21.49.42 # a digital effect versus analog? 21.49.46 # yeah 21.49.56 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 21.50.06 # i think most people can tell the difference? 21.50.14 # I know the difference from years of hearing such stuff 21.50.37 # and spending days on audio forums and trying all kinds of shit 21.50.44 # even just using digital TV compared to old analog 21.51.10 # I don't think "normal" people make the association 21.51.30 # I don't think normal people have any idea what's going on when they hear that 21.52.14 # which is probably why audiophools think USB cables make a difference :D 21.52.18 # normal people don't mod firmware either :) 21.53.02 # I kinda feel bad for calling Rockbox users "normal people" ;) 21.53.58 Join krabador [0] (~krabador_@unaffiliated/krabador) 21.54.05 # seriously though, that's the reason audiophools don't know what a digital glitch sounds like 21.54.34 # and why they believe digital cables made of silver improve high frequencies 21.54.41 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 21.55.01 # I don't know what goes through their mind when they see and hear a digital TV glitch 21.55.33 # Ha. 21.55.52 # saratoga: I didn't know the difference... 21.56.01 # I'm not normal though either I guess. 21.56.32 # I'm not even sure people know that their TV feed is digital to begin with 21.56.39 # Heh. 21.56.41 # Probably not. 21.56.45 # Most people don't think about it. 21.56.48 # maybe it's not that they don't know, more like they don't even think about it to begin with 21.56.51 # ^^ 21.57.07 # Agreed. 21.57.32 # and kids these days might not even know what "analog" means! 21.57.53 # they're too young to have owned walkmen 21.58.30 # and the others probably think "analog" = "vinyl" 21.58.30 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.58.44 # Did you ever read the article of the dad who took away his kids ipod and gave him a walkman? 21.58.50 # haha, no 21.59.09 # sounds like a proper punishment 21.59.41 # not the one I was thjinking of, but interesting... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8117619.stm 22.00.30 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/user/saint) 22.01.56 Quit mc2739 (Read error: Operation timed out) 22.02.59 # Okay. 22.03.02 # So its definitely in the mp3 file. 22.03.19 # it handles it better on the computer than it does on the sansa, but the blip is there. 22.03.34 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 22.08.04 Quit y4n (Quit: coob ov vood?) 22.10.23 # So yeah. 22.10.27 # 100% bad mp3 file. My bad. :/ 22.20.31 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 22.23.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.23.59 # Man. This is so much better without digital artifacts. 22.38.45 Quit ender` (Quit: Space, the last best hope for peace. These are the voyages of the Millenium Falcon. Its five-year mission: to find technology to defeat the Goa'uld.) 22.43.13 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 22.52.10 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 23.02.58 Quit Rower (Quit: Hmmm...) 23.10.20 # TheSeven: debugging my patcher is not fun :( 23.10.54 # * TheSeven knows that feeling :P 23.11.11 # debugging non-working USB stubs isn't terribly much more fun I guess 23.14.01 # yeah, it wasn't, but now it is even worse because I'm fighting bugs in a rather long toolchain: logic <- script <- lua < hwpatcher <- elf/sb/imx, error could be anywhere ^^ 23.14.33 # well, do unit tests for each step :) 23.14.50 # should be fairly easy if you have a failing integration test case 23.14.58 # yeah but you see i've been debugging my sb read/writer for two years and still found a bug today ^^ 23.15.22 # don't ask me how many emCORE bugs I've found in that manner :) 23.15.39 # hopefully this one was easy: my sanity check caught the bug but now i'm facing another one which is much harder 23.15.42 # "ah, THAT's why it has been crashing once in a blue moon for years..." 23.15.43 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 23.15.59 # oh yeah I had this one, bad alignement somewhere 23.21.21 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.22.39 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g224236140.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.37.14 # damn, I swear that code was working one hour ago and it has not changed ! 23.37.50 # one of those cases where something stops working when you change something and it's still not working when you change it back :) 23.39.08 # ahhhhhhhh, /me go killing himself 23.39.37 # As always the problem is between the chair and the keyboard 23.41.46 Join krabador [0] (~krabador_@unaffiliated/krabador)