--- Log for 24.08.113 Server: hitchcock.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 22 hours ago 00.00.13 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 00.02.08 # LeoNerd» what player are you using 00.03.14 Quit GodEater (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00.07.15 Quit y4n (Quit: PANTS OFF!) 00.08.58 # wowaname: iHP140 00.09.02 # ah 00.09.12 # lol i had umode +D 00.09.19 # still do 00.09.23 # testing something in #wikipedia 00.09.53 # wowaname: please stay on topic 00.10.01 # wtf +D doesnt work 00.10.16 # o i have it off. ok gevaerts 00.12.50 Join GodEater [0] (~whoknows@97e12365.skybroadband.com) 00.26.26 Join zoktar [0] (~zoktar@unaffiliated/zoktar) 00.27.08 Quit zoktar (Remote host closed the connection) 00.30.08 Join __jae__ [0] (~jae@dedicated.jaerhard.com) 00.31.27 Quit moss (Quit: Leaving) 00.34.52 Quit __jae__ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.42.33 Quit kiwicam (Remote host closed the connection) 00.49.32 Join ender1 [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 00.52.04 Quit ender` (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00.57.10 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 00.57.33 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 00.57.57 Join kiwicam [0] (~quassel@101.98.163.139) 00.58.15 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 01.10.43 Join sakax [0] (~sakax@unaffiliated/sakax) 01.44.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.21.48 Quit ender1 (Quit: Zero Defects, n. The result of shutting down a production line.) 02.24.19 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130819170952]) 02.32.15 Nick wowaname is now known as umad (~wow@184.241.74.252) 02.32.17 Nick umad is now known as wowaname (~wow@184.241.74.252) 02.37.31 Quit amiconn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.37.39 Join amiconn [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.06.07 Quit kiwicam (Remote host closed the connection) 03.16.49 Quit wowaname (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 03.44.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.16.18 Join Transmogrifox [0] (~jakuleth@245.sub-70-199-133.myvzw.com) 04.29.47 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.29.47 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.29.49 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.31.46 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.31.47 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.31.49 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.33.41 Quit gelraen (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 05.08.55 Quit rdn (Remote host closed the connection) 05.17.00 Quit [7] (Read error: Operation timed out) 05.17.23 Join rela_ [0] (~x@pD9E579CF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 05.18.38 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 05.19.20 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.44.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.32.44 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:0:c38c:c38c:3010:f8b3:3d69:be6a) 06.43.27 Quit habys (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 06.49.50 Join habys [0] (~luke@arikui.org) 07.06.57 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 07.11.40 Quit Transmogrifox (Remote host closed the connection) 07.11.47 Quit habys (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07.17.59 Join habys [0] (~luke@arikui.org) 07.44.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.48.53 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 08.43.09 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E42503.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 09.16.51 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 09.18.50 Join eyfour [0] (~eyfour@13.90-149-56.nextgentel.com) 09.30.09 Join __jae__ [0] (~jae@dedicated.jaerhard.com) 09.34.48 Quit __jae__ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 09.45.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.01.51 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.05.25 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 10.13.13 Join gelraen [0] (~imax@mail.univua.net) 10.14.18 Quit rela_ (Quit: Leaving) 10.14.32 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 10.28.25 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g231120090.adsl.alicedsl.de) 10.30.50 Join kiwicam [0] (~quassel@101.98.163.139) 10.31.24 Join rdn [0] (~oop@cpe-69-204-124-212.buffalo.res.rr.com) 10.31.37 Quit rdn (Remote host closed the connection) 10.32.34 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10.44.12 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@CPE-124-183-87-219.lns13.ken.bigpond.net.au) 10.44.12 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 10.44.12 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.44.42 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 10.51.43 Nick SuperBrainAK is now known as DormantBrain (~andy@shared02.balt01.cd.2g2u.net) 11.06.20 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 11.16.09 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@f053155221.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.21.14 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 11.21.53 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 11.28.31 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@f053155221.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.35.31 Join crose [0] (~John@116-66-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) 11.45.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.49.55 Quit roxfan (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 11.54.47 Join roxfan [0] (dunno@87.204-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 12.21.33 Join pamaury [0] (~a305da08@www.haxx.se) 12.21.57 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 12.21.57 Join pamaury [0] (~a305da08@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 12.22.40 # wodz: currently no, the gui cannot create regmap but I plan to add this feature, it should be a problem 12.27.13 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 12.30.42 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 12.39.29 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E42503.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.42.08 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 12.52.42 Quit pamaury (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 12.56.56 Quit n1s (Remote host closed the connection) 13.01.57 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 13.01.57 Quit n1s (Changing host) 13.01.57 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 13.45.00 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 13.45.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.47.37 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E42503.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.53.20 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 13.59.28 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 14.06.51 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 14.25.09 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@bsod.vpn.tu-clausthal.de) 14.49.08 Join thomasjfox [0] (~thomasjfo@rockbox/developer/thomasjfox) 15.03.38 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 15.10.14 Quit GodEater (Changing host) 15.10.14 Join GodEater [0] (~whoknows@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 15.39.35 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 15.41.05 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 15.45.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.02.38 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 16.10.13 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 16.10.14 Quit n1s (Changing host) 16.10.14 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 16.20.30 Quit thegeek_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.27.49 Quit mrtux (Quit: rebooting) 16.30.26 Join thegeek [0] (~thegeek@60.36.34.95.customer.cdi.no) 16.32.17 Join mrtux [0] (~colin@unaffiliated/mrtux) 17.01.43 Quit rela (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.29.03 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@2001:67c:20a0:b104:9d48:370b:a33b:a215) 17.29.03 Quit habys (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.29.03 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 17.29.04 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 17.30.07 Join habys [0] (~luke@arikui.org) 17.32.33 Quit bertrik (Client Quit) 17.33.47 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@2001:67c:20a0:b104:9d48:370b:a33b:a215) 17.33.47 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 17.33.47 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 17.45.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.47.19 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 17.50.51 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 18.06.09 Quit eyfour (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 18.27.14 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 18.30.13 Join __jae__ [0] (~jae@dedicated.jaerhard.com) 18.35.00 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.35.01 Quit __jae__ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 18.41.19 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 18.49.23 Quit pamaury (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 18.50.01 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 18.58.01 Quit XavierGr (Changing host) 18.58.01 Join XavierGr [0] (~XavierGr@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 19.02.46 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.05.07 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.30.57 Join jlbiasini [0] (~metaphysi@cug31-4-78-225-137-166.fbx.proxad.net) 19.31.57 Quit crose (Quit: Leaving) 19.45.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.04.56 Join Beta2K [0] (~Beta2K@d24-36-136-246.home1.cgocable.net) 20.10.38 # * [Saint] just spotted a glaring hole in the documentation... 20.10.54 # <[Saint]> The manual still refers to "Playlists" on the main menu. 20.11.07 # <[Saint]> ...that changed to Playlist Catalogue like...what...a year ago? 20.12.01 # hold the press! 20.14.00 # <[Saint]> The addition of Playlist Catalogue *completely* fucked the Playlists section of the manual. 20.14.33 # sounds bad 20.14.38 # how many casualties? 20.26.21 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 20.34.20 Quit thomasjfox (Remote host closed the connection) 20.41.18 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 20.43.40 Join crose [0] (~John@116-66-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) 20.47.30 Quit lebellium (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.48.25 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 20.58.54 # pamaury: did you saw the comment of kugel on g#569 20.58.58 # 3Gerrit review #569 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/569 : 3touchpad: Disable touchpad on softlock. by Jean-Louis Biasini (changes/69/569/27) 21.01.28 # not yet, I was very busy today 21.02.13 # hum, that's not quite fair, we use weak for other subsystems 21.02.35 # I'll be back later 21.03.13 # I'm not sure how to go forward now: I asked for direction both here and on the mailling list. I've got very few answer (only gevearts, lorenzo and you. And after working hard on it when I finally get ready I have someone pointing out It isn't the right way... Who knows if I rewrite the whole stuff if someone isn't going to come then to say: hey that's not so good :( 21.07.23 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E42503.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.07.32 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 21.12.15 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 21.12.27 # Still if kugel is right about exe compilation we should find another way... 21.12.38 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@p5DE8D957.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.12.38 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 21.12.38 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 21.14.31 # <[Saint]> Well, unfortunately, trying hard != right. :-S 21.14.50 # jep, true that... :/ 21.17.10 # Still I can't find any reference to weak symbols having issue with windows 21.21.17 # And we use it on firmware/drivers/lcd-16bit-common.c imx233/audio-imx233.c and plugins/lib/osd.c 21.31.38 Quit jlbiasini (Quit: jlbiasini) 21.35.16 Join jlbiasini [0] (~metaphysi@cug31-4-78-225-137-166.fbx.proxad.net) 21.45.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.59.09 Join zoktar [0] (~zoktar@unaffiliated/zoktar) 22.02.39 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 22.03.23 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E42503.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.21.33 Join aevin [0] (eivindsy@unaffiliated/aevin) 22.22.15 Quit roxfan (Remote host closed the connection) 22.23.51 # jlbiasini: you will find in lcd-16bit-common.c that it's special cased for win32 22.24.37 # ok 22.26.50 # weak functions that are meant to be overriden by target code are also very easy to miss for new ports (because they not looking at them doesn't throw a warning or anything) 22.27.26 # which potientially means that this overriding doesnt happen even if there would be a good opportunity 22.28.40 # normally a new port work like this: a) change code until it compiles, b) change code until it boots and c) fix user-visible problems 22.29.27 # a missed power saving opporunity that would require overriding a hidden weak function isn't covered by either of them 22.32.08 # kugel: ok so your idea is a general touchdev_enable_device that would call a touchpad_enable or touchscreen_enable from driver. those function containing only "return" on target not handling power saving 22.32.33 # did I got that correctly? 22.35.21 # yeah, except that _device would be target specific (and touchpad_enable the general one 22.35.24 # ) 22.35.26 Join rdn [0] (~oop@cpe-69-204-124-212.buffalo.res.rr.com) 22.36.43 Join stoffel_ [0] (~quassel@pD9E43ADF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.37.24 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 22.41.48 # kugel: the only problem I see with this is how to implement a generic touchpad disable. On touchscreen this is very simple because all touchscreen use the same interface. So we can controls all of them and bind them in the darkness of touchscreen.c, whereas touchpad don't have and cannot have a common interface (because each touchpad is different, some are just a combinaison of button gigabeat, other nearly touchscreen like, t 22.41.48 # he fuze+ is somehow in between) 22.44.17 # so apart for adding a #define TOUCH_BUTTONS in each touchpad target-button.h file I don't see how we can know which button to silent in order to have a general touchpad_disable 22.53.27 # jlbiasini: this seems like an orthogonal issue 22.53.51 # ? 22.54.14 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 22.55.46 # kugel: what does that means? 22.56.26 # it means that the issue is a different one (even though the topic is the same) 22.56.34 # and that eitehr can be fixed without affecting the other 22.57.22 # fwiw, touchscreens also have target specific code (such as button_read_device) 23.03.18 # kugel: do you have any suggestion rather than a plain #define TOUCH_BUTTONS? 23.04.02 # no, not now, but that seems ok to me 23.06.41 # <[Saint]> having targets that need weird treatment have a specific define seems perfectly sane to me. 23.10.17 # ok, I'll see also with pamaury on this then 23.11.49 # <[Saint]> It seems *so* much better that the target(s) that need weird treatment get the weirdness...rather than making changes all over the show to accommodate said weirdness. 23.12.06 # <[Saint]> I believe this was said, parhaps not in so many words, several times the other day. 23.15.55 # [Saint]: the weirdness is pretty much squared on this one 23.16.42 # we are talking about have_touchpad target with softlock 23.17.35 Join ungali [0] (~yaaic@199.119.234.228) 23.18.16 # it's like 2 or 3 target tops... if not only one. The point is to make the new implementation wide enough so that it could also be usefull on other target(new ones most likely) 23.18.41 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 23.19.42 # pamaury: have a look at the log kugel pretty much explained his point, I would be happy to have your view on it to... 23.27.31 # <[Saint]> well...its like *one* target, as far as I see it. 23.27.42 # <[Saint]> I don't understand why any others need to be involved at all. 23.30.11 # * [Saint] shrugs 23.30.19 # <[Saint]> Thankfully, gerrit. 23.36.20 Quit rela (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.45.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.55.56 Quit habys (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.57.26 Join habys [0] (~luke@arikui.org) 23.58.33 Quit ungali (Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org)