--- Log for 15.09.113 Server: brooks.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 14 days and 15 hours ago 00.03.16 Part wowaname ("<3") 00.09.15 # KotH: just for reference, try to attach datasheets to the wiki page rather than link to them 00.09.25 # links quickly die 00.09.59 # and change the "D2" reference to "CowonD2Info" so it's recognised as a wiki page 00.10.17 # (like TelechipsInfo) 00.11.01 # D2 reference? 00.11.15 # ah.. 00.11.28 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.16.40 Quit y4n (Quit: 6,000,000 ways to die — choose one.) 00.20.01 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.28.55 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@184.76.254.130) 01.00.07 Quit ender` (Quit: Connection Reset by Gypsies with Wire Cutters) 01.04.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.06.18 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130909203154]) 01.09.24 Quit liar (Remote host closed the connection) 01.16.25 Quit Topy44 (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) 01.17.38 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@93.190.93.215) 02.36.04 Join dragonman77 [0] (~4b8c9f23@www.haxx.se) 02.36.32 # hey If I install rockbox on a ipod video can I go back to official fw later? 03.02.53 Join krabador [0] (~krabador_@unaffiliated/krabador) 03.04.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.07.40 Join saratoga [0] (123e11e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.17.224) 03.07.58 # dragonman77: the installer actually sets up dual boot, so you can run either by holding down a button during start up 03.11.50 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 03.34.27 Nick SuperBrainAK is now known as DormantBrain (~andy@74.112.203.135) 03.35.51 Nick DormantBrain is now known as SuperBrainAK (~andy@74.112.203.135) 03.46.12 Quit rdn (Remote host closed the connection) 04.03.08 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.03.08 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.03.09 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.03.09 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.03.11 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.03.11 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.04.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.47.42 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 05.47.52 Join [7] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.49.59 Quit JdGordon| (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 05.51.58 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@c122-107-209-130.mckinn3.vic.optusnet.com.au) 05.51.59 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 05.51.59 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 06.00.27 Join habys [0] (~luke@arikui.org) 06.53.58 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:0:c38c:c38c:4ee:b93b:3d69:beac) 07.01.59 Quit dfkt (Disconnected by services) 07.02.00 Join dfkt_ [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 07.04.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.31.17 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 07.39.32 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@184.76.254.130) 07.47.36 Quit amiconn (Remote host closed the connection) 07.47.37 Quit pixelma (Remote host closed the connection) 07.47.56 Join pixelma [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 07.47.57 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 08.13.49 Quit JdGordon| (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.13.59 Quit DexterLB (Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish) 08.14.30 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@79-100-22-189.btc-net.bg) 08.15.44 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 08.49.24 Quit mt (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 09.03.22 Quit dragonman77 (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 09.04.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.37.46 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 09.53.30 Nick SuperBrainAK is now known as DormantBrain (~andy@74.112.203.135) 10.14.00 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 10.16.46 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E42C44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.18.12 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 10.35.29 Join quale [0] (~qualia@wu.gs) 10.39.01 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.40.15 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 10.44.41 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@95.236.110.126) 10.48.49 Nick funman_ is now known as funman (~fun@chui-pas.net) 10.51.05 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 10.52.24 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E42C44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 10.53.11 # So I'm looking to buy a new Sansa of some flavor or another, and I see the Clip Zip is now "supported" -- is that synonymous with "feature complete"? (docs and theme ports notwithstanding) From the looks of what I can find on the wiki, that does seem to be the case, at least.. 10.54.20 # Basically, I'm trying to see if there's anything that "doesn't work" -- e.g, I had a Fuze a few years ago that was absolutely fantastic, save for USB not working unless I rebooted into the OF 11.04.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.05.41 # quale: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,43261.0.html 11.06.10 # there are some outstanding USB problems 11.06.11 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.07.28 # pamaury: I see that the touchpad disabling feature when locked has been merged for the Fuze+? 11.07.36 # seems to work well 11.12.12 Quit lorenzo92 (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 11.16.39 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@95.236.110.126) 11.23.39 # ah, interesting. I think I'll grab a Zip anyways, maybe I could help test patches or something, if they show up. Failing that, not too big a deal to just use the OF for USB, I think 11.23.45 # thanks :) 11.24.50 # copper: yes 11.27.29 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 11.27.34 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 11.30.49 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 11.31.56 Nick dv__ is now known as dv_ (~quassel@chello080108009040.14.11.vie.surfer.at) 11.32.16 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g231122246.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.45.11 # why does the configure script warn me, if i use a newer gcc than 4.4.4? 11.47.05 # KotH: are you using your own cross compiler ? 11.47.56 # we always build with known versions of gcc to avoid any problem 11.47.58 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11.53.14 # yes, just build one using crosstool-ng 11.53.27 # and yes, i just stumbled into a problem 11.53.33 # though one that should be easy to fix 11.53.41 # if i can find the linker script 11.55.03 # the linker scripts are target specific 11.55.17 # usually in firmware/target/arm//{boot,link}.lds 11.55.22 # {boot,apps}.lds more likely 11.56.47 # how can i tell the makefile to print me the command it executes? 11.58.05 # make V=1 11.58.19 # that will be *very* verbose 11.59.33 # i'm an ex-mplayer developer. i'm not easily scared by such things ;) 12.00.41 # We haven't a tcc901 port in our tree currently, right ? 12.01.47 # By the way, do you publish your code somewhere before it is pushed to our trunk ? 12.01.56 # I'm curious ^^ 12.02.35 # i have no code at the moment 12.02.48 # i'm still trying to figure out how the OF sets up the hardware 12.03.08 # when i'm done with that, i'll start porting the S9 or D2 fw to the d20 12.03.26 # er.. d2, there is no s9 support 12.04.58 # pamaury: i can send you my current idb file, if you want to have a look.. but there is not much there yet 12.05.02 # actually, I think it could be a good time to try out something, if you want: I have a developped a very nice tool called hwstub for the imx233, it's a small binary that you send to the device which creates a usb connection and you can send commands to the device, mostly R/W anywhere. Then I have created a tool which runs on the host which can be scripted with LUA. Together with a register map that could can write in XML, it gives you a very 12.05.02 # powerful hacking framework 12.05.35 # I was able to develop whole LCD drivers to several players with this, very very handy 12.05.50 # that sounds cool 12.05.59 # I always wanted to port to port it to the TCC lines because they have usb recovery mode 12.06.21 # feel free to send it this way :) 12.07.10 # I need to see if I have a TCC901 based player somewhere, so I could do the work; it's not super hard in theory: write the SoC specific code which init usb and then write a smallish usb driver 12.07.55 # Let me see what is the usb core of this soc 12.09.08 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 12.09.08 # * KotH has nightmares from writing usb device code 12.09.34 # oh that's cool: it's the same usb core as in TCC7801 12.09.43 # and I have a TCC7801 device 12.10.49 # so what I can do while your are exploring the OF is try to port hwstub to TCC7801 12.11.09 # and then you'll to the step to TCC7901, which I hope is not too big 12.14.16 # i havent had a look at the differences between TCC7801 and TCC7901 but i dont expect them to be big 12.14.26 # at least not in that regard 12.22.28 Quit lorenzo92 (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 12.23.17 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12.25.30 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@95.236.110.126) 12.30.37 Quit lorenzo92 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.38.19 Quit zoktar (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.42.05 Join zoktar [0] (~zoktar@unaffiliated/zoktar) 12.59.27 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@95.236.110.126) 13.04.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.21.47 Quit dv_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.22.25 Join dv_ [0] (~quassel@chello080108009040.14.11.vie.surfer.at) 13.23.51 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 13.25.29 Quit DexterLB (Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish) 13.28.58 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@79-100-22-189.btc-net.bg) 13.46.19 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E42C44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.50.10 Join stoffel_ [0] (~quassel@pD9E41EB0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.50.47 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 13.53.21 Join liar [0] (~liar@83.175.90.24) 14.06.19 Quit stoffel_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 14.17.49 Quit lorenzo92 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.23.46 # does someone have the TCC760 and TCC770 datasheets ? 14.23.48 # KotH: ? 14.29.01 # 760 here 14.29.11 # rev 0.07... 14.30.55 # same here 14.38.04 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E41BA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.55.25 Quit michaelni (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14.59.25 Join mt [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/mt) 15.02.41 Quit Jack87 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 15.04.47 Join Jack87 [0] (Jack87@nasadmin/admin/jack87) 15.05.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.08.34 Join michaelni [0] (~michael@188-22-96-124.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 15.51.32 Quit ender| (Quit: The idea that I can be presented with a problem, set out to logically solve it with the tools at hand, and wind up with a program that could not be legally used because someone else followed the same logical steps some years ago and filed for a patent on) 16.04.26 Quit ender` (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 16.07.01 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.08.56 Join ender| [0] (~ender1@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 16.29.25 Quit ender| (Quit: That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history. -- Aldous Huxley) 16.33.46 Join ender| [0] (~ender1@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 16.40.05 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 16.43.07 Join mirak [0] (~mirak@static-176-182-51-103.ncc.abo.bbox.fr) 16.52.37 Join rdn [0] (~oop@cpe-69-204-124-212.buffalo.res.rr.com) 17.05.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.06.16 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@host183-106-dynamic.7-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 17.11.24 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 17.20.13 Quit lorenzo92 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.24.27 Join stoffel_ [0] (~quassel@pD9E409AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.24.50 Quit rela (Quit: Leaving) 17.24.59 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 17.34.23 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@host210-109-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 17.40.40 Join eyfour [0] (~eyfour@90.149.56.13) 18.19.18 Join lebellium_gs2 [0] (~lebellium@80.215.9.118) 18.24.04 Join serb [0] (~serb@Home02263.cluj.astral.ro) 18.24.07 # A Question: 18.24.20 # will installin rockbox on my sansa clip uncap some sort of invisible volume limit ? 18.26.56 # I think that the setting "line padding in lists" must be placed in the theme settings menu, instead of hiding it in the touchscreen setting menu 18.26.56 # serb: I think the EU volume cap can be lifted with the OF 18.27.02 # by choosing another region 18.27.27 # serb: but Rockbox has no such cap in any case 18.27.51 # this is a setting that is NOT related to touchscreen in any way! what do you think? I'm going to write a patch for it ... 18.28.30 # and, striclty speaking, it may be enabled also for non-touchpad devices, i don't see any problem 18.30.50 # Copper: my issue is fixed. That's what lorenzo is currently talking about :) 18.30.54 # ...and a question that came to my mind: is it possible to configure this setting via a theme-configuration (i.e. a theme may force a specific value). lebellium? 18.31.00 # nice 18.31.28 # copper: 18.31.29 # u off #foobar2000 dude? 18.31.34 # I never was there 18.31.39 # word. 18.31.40 # wierd. 18.31.49 # with the of ? 18.31.56 # brb 18.32.04 # yeah in the OF there's a "region" setting 18.32.10 # set it to "World" or somesuch 18.32.15 # or, just install Rockbox 18.32.26 Quit serb (Quit: Potato) 18.46.24 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 18.53.22 Join lebellium| [0] (~lebellium@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 18.56.35 Join krabador [0] (~krabador_@unaffiliated/krabador) 18.57.26 Quit lebellium_gs2 (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 18.58.05 Quit cmhobbs (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 19.03.10 Quit lebellium| (Quit: Bye) 19.05.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.05.51 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 19.09.01 Quit stoffel_ (Remote host closed the connection) 19.09.49 Quit lorenzo92 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.35.21 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 261 seconds) 19.39.36 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@95.232.109.110) 19.52.45 Quit lorenzo92 (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0.1/20130814063812]) 20.00.02 # KotH: does usb work on the cowond2 ? 20.00.23 # IIRC it should 20.00.37 # Although also IIRC it's disabled by default 20.01.10 Part ghallberg ("WeeChat 0.4.1") 20.01.13 # (due to no reliable write support on flash) 20.01.27 # because I'm looking at the driver and i'm trying to use it for hwstub and there is no way this can work it seems 20.01.54 # pamaury: i dont own a d2 20.02.01 # it fails at SET_ADDRESS 20.02.25 # also usb_drv_send doesn't handle ZLP (other than doing the complicated equivalent of a nop) 20.02.38 # pamaury: do you have a beagle to debug what's going over the bus? 20.02.53 # I have a USB analyser 20.02.56 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.140.62.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 20.03.24 # well *the* usb analyser of Rockbox 20.03.40 # Good to be reminded where it is these days :) 20.03.55 # and the software is sooooooo bad 20.05.08 # what about the other TCC7xx targets, does any of them has working USB ? 20.05.43 # from TargetStatus it seems not 20.06.03 # * gevaerts tries to remember which other TCC7xx targets we have 20.08.20 # c100, m200, logikdax, iaudio7, cowond2 20.08.32 # Right 20.08.38 # None of those is very advanced 20.08.50 # I *believe* logikdax has usb 20.08.58 # It has little else though :) 20.11.51 # I hate usb controllers with poor datasheets, you have to figure out all the important details youself and usually these are stupidly conceived 20.18.51 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 20.32.41 Quit eyfour (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7) 20.41.48 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.42.07 # gevaerts: do you know anyone who has the TCC77x datasheet ? 20.43.52 # I seem to have it 20.45.15 # Mail sent 20.47.03 # thanks 21.00.51 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@95.232.109.110) 21.05.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.06.14 Join wowaname [0] (~wow@174-147-198-126.pools.spcsdns.net) 21.15.45 # i'd have to dig but i probably have the telechips stuff somewhere if its needed 21.16.35 Nick DormantBrain is now known as SuperBrainAK (~andy@74.112.203.135) 21.18.31 Quit wowaname (Read error: error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version number) 21.20.51 Join wowaname [0] (~wow@174-147-198-126.pools.spcsdns.net) 21.31.44 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 21.31.59 Quit dfkt_ (Remote host closed the connection) 21.39.22 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 21.41.11 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 21.59.49 # kugel: ping 22.01.24 # * wowaname intercepts ping 22.01.27 # does rockbox support ISO Media, MPEG v4 system, iTunes AAC-LC? i try to listen to http://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/105743008-mikealrogers-community-chat-w-izs-and.m4a 22.01.36 # but my rockbox freezes in the middle. 22.01.40 # it supports mp4 22.01.40 # um 22.01.42 # lemme check the other 2 22.02.09 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SoundCodecs 22.02.48 # AAC should work 22.19.51 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 22.22.53 # g#617 22.22.56 # 3Gerrit review #617 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/617 : 3Move List Padding in Lists option by Lorenzo Miori (changes/17/617/1) 22.28.25 Quit y4n (Quit: coob ov vood?) 22.30.47 Quit bertrik (Read error: Operation timed out) 22.39.00 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@82.159.1.125.dyn.user.ono.com) 22.44.40 Quit mt (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 22.53.05 # someone expert with uisimulator? I'm getting a sim_creat not declared error, and I don't find the proper define to tune ^^ 22.53.47 # um 22.53.51 # i'm not an expert 22.53.53 # sorry 22.54.04 # have never run into that error (yet) 22.54.33 # i got an hint, it's a plugin.c issue, let's see 22.58.54 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@2602:306:250c:6af9:39a7:b7d9:da9:a63f) 23.03.04 # solved! 23.05.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.05.43 # owen1: thats not an AAC-LC file, but it does play for me in the rockbox sim 23.17.36 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.46.52 Quit dfkt (Remote host closed the connection) 23.46.53 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 23.49.45 Quit lorenzo92 (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0/20130812112419]) 23.53.10 Quit wowaname (Disconnected by services) 23.54.09 Join wowaname [0] (~wow@184.242.23.74) 23.55.18 Join mt [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/mt)