--- Log for 23.09.113 Server: pratchett.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 8 hours ago 00.00.00 # Hmmm 00.00.18 Quit lebellium_gs2 (Quit: Bye) 00.00.48 # the mixer supports it I believe, no idea if the setting is exposed to the user 00.01.39 # I suspect you can probably work around this by using either the EQ precut (not sure about that one) or replaygain pre-amp 00.01.49 # i.e. adjust regular audio instead 00.06.48 # So I have rockbox on my Sandisk Sansa Clip+, but it's just freezing randomly, when I select artists, albums or songs. It also freezes in the middle of a song sometimes. I figured there might be some corrupted files, so I tried to open it in my computer, however, I couldn't open it through My computer, because it freezes as well. 00.07.29 # I can't delete files via my sansa, because it freezes while deleting... 00.07.40 # I don't suppose anyone could help me? 00.08.44 # Rhinosaur: I'd suggest booting to the Sandisk firmware, connecting to your computer, and checking the filesystem 00.09.58 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00.10.02 # Wow, I tried that. But It says it needs 90 more Mb of space.. I guess I put too much files on it or something. I'm no star when it comes to these kind of things.. 00.11.10 # That 90MB thing is related to the database. You can work around that I believe, but I'm not sure how. I'm sure someone else here likely knows though 00.11.28 # What you're seeing very much seems related to a corrupted filesystem though 00.11.58 # Allright, thanks. I'll try to get it working again then. 00.19.08 Quit cmhobbs (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00.19.59 # What format are those notification files in, And where do they sit in the unit? 00.20.25 # I'm thinking I could open them up and change the default volume they play at. 00.27.37 # IIRC they're headerless speex files, which are then assembled into the voice file by the voicefont tool in the tools/ subdirectory in the source. I don't know the format of that 00.28.10 # I don't expect trying to adjust volume in there will be easy 00.29.00 # no problm for suppresion for me Rhinosaur 00.29.22 # You could generate new voice files of course. If you do that, you can pass all sorts of options to the TTS, and I'm sure some TTSes will have options for output volume 00.29.35 # sometime freeze when i plug in USB 00.30.25 # i have a sansa clip+ to 00.33.28 # I think I might have fixed it.. 00.33.56 # I somehow opened the sansa firmware and formatted it, now let's try to connect this damned thing to my computer 00.34.27 # Yeah! Thanks alot! 00.41.36 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.47.38 Quit Rower (Quit: Hmmm...) 00.50.16 Quit doug_ (Quit: Leaving) 00.50.18 Quit Rhinosaur (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 01.02.44 Join [Saint] [0] (65629e67@rockbox/user/saint) 01.15.43 Quit ender` (Quit: If you're going to do something tonight that you'll be sorry for tomorrow morning, sleep late.) 01.17.20 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0/20130917123208]) 01.24.09 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.24.24 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@184.76.254.130) 01.27.04 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Leaving) 01.32.50 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01.42.57 # [Saint]: pong? 01.43.28 # <[Saint]> Gah...now I have to remember what that was about. :_S 01.43.41 # <[Saint]> It was...something... 01.44.33 Quit efyx (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01.55.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.56.57 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@ip70-178-52-92.ks.ks.cox.net) 01.56.57 Quit cmhobbs (Changing host) 01.56.57 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 01.57.00 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@17.161-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 02.05.14 Quit Jack87 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.08.01 Quit cmhobbs (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 02.08.25 Join Jack87 [0] (Jack87@nasadmin/admin/jack87) 02.23.55 Quit efyx (*.net *.split) 02.23.56 Quit Rondom (*.net *.split) 02.23.56 Quit amithkk (*.net *.split) 02.23.56 Quit n17ikh (*.net *.split) 02.23.57 Quit maraz (*.net *.split) 02.23.57 Quit Elfish (*.net *.split) 02.27.47 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@128.204.195.239) 02.27.47 Quit n17ikh (Changing host) 02.27.47 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@unaffiliated/n17ikh) 02.30.23 Join maraz [0] (maraz@kapsi.fi) 02.39.14 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@17.161-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 02.50.15 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Page closed) 03.22.45 Join webguest16 [0] (~ad5836a4@www.haxx.se) 03.24.27 Join [Saint] [0] (65629e67@rockbox/user/saint) 03.25.03 # hello! I am attempting to patch my 6G iPod with the ipod6g_charger-v1.patch but am not entirely sure what I'm doing. I've downloaded TortoiseSVN to apply the patch but am not sure what I should be applying it to. If anyone could help me out it would be much appreciated! 03.32.24 # <[Saint]> See: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WorkingWithPatches 03.33.07 # <[Saint]> If you're doing this on Windows...don't...just...don't. 03.34.58 # I am, unfortunately. I'll take your word for it 03.35.36 Join _dv_ [0] (~quassel@chello080108009040.14.11.vie.surfer.at) 03.35.59 # <[Saint]> Using Virtualbox (et al) to provide a virtual machine, or using a LiveCD/DVD/USB etc., with a sane operating system, is a lot better. 03.36.33 Quit dv_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 03.36.36 # <[Saint]> You may well encounter issues with unix-ish systems like CygWin because no one uses them anymore. 03.39.33 # alright, thank you for the advice and link. I'm installing Virtualbox now, I'll be back if I encounter any more problems 03.44.47 Quit webguest16 (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 03.55.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.59.50 # <[Saint]> Hum...Whoops. I probably should've just told that guy not to bother. 04.00.10 # <[Saint]> The above mentioned patch only seems to work correctly for a single individual. 04.00.41 Quit Unhelpful_ (Remote host closed the connection) 04.00.55 Join Unhelpful [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/Unhelpful) 04.01.25 Quit tchan (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1) 04.08.40 Quit crose (Quit: Leaving) 04.16.01 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 04.17.29 Join Rondom [0] (~rondom@2a01:488:66:1000:b24d:4f2f:0:1) 04.17.29 Join Elfish [0] (amba@2001:1608:12:1:13:3:3:7) 04.30.50 Quit krabador (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.38.23 Join amithkk [0] (uid4289@2buntu/writers/amithkk) 04.41.18 # <[Saint]> Ooooh, Ohhh! Brain-thoughts! 04.42.16 # <[Saint]> JdGord: I remembered what I was hassling you about - it may not necessarily be a feild you're into, or care about in the least, but, you have opinions just like evryone else and usually respond to me: 04.42.26 # <[Saint]> What should I do about touchscreen volume handling? 04.42.44 # <[Saint]> *errr, i before e, etc. 04.43.11 # <[Saint]> I am really, really struggling to form an "obvious" touch UI. 04.45.24 # <[Saint]> How I would like to do it is by switching out the progress bar with the volume bar dynamically (triggered by hardware keys and an on-screen {probably the smaller volume indicator icon} toggle) but time and time again I have watched users whom I have supplied with a device to jam out on completely miss what is going on. 04.46.54 # <[Saint]> It doesn't need to be "the right opinion", I just want *an* opinion, from someone who is able to actually comminicate in clear terms why the think X, Y or Z is a good/bad implementation. 04.48.22 # <[Saint]> The reason we can't just use the volume indicator icon as a touch-bar is that on L/MDPI targets it has nowhere near enough resolution to be useful 04.49.21 # <[Saint]> and making it large enough to do so takes up a lot of sreen real estate, for something that needn't be onscreen 24/7 (even if the space is available for ti, it looks gross). 04.51.38 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.51.39 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.51.40 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 04.51.41 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.51.56 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.51.57 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.52.01 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.31.27 Join |akaWolf| [0] (~akaWolf@188.134.9.161) 05.50.58 # [Saint]: you cant just switch out the bar, as you say, users wont notice it 05.51.07 # having a popup is definitly the best way to do it 05.52.07 Quit thegeek (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.52.23 Quit [7] (Read error: Operation timed out) 05.53.37 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.53.45 # <[Saint]> The popup takes up a fair bit of room that has to obscure /something/ from view (probably the progress bar, and on LDPI targets maybe some metedata as well {which sucks}). 05.54.21 # <[Saint]> But, you're right, users have no idea what is going on even if the elapsed/remaining time dissappears and is replaced by "Volume: NdB". 05.55.09 # <[Saint]> But, frankly, most users didn't know what was going on with the popup (reusing the context/quickqsreen/filebrowser overflow popup) either. :-S 05.55.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.55.16 # obscuring the view is the best way to show something changed 05.56.14 # <[Saint]> The other problem I have, from some fairly limited family/freinds/peer testing, is that nothing *looks* like you can interact with it. 05.56.30 # <[Saint]> ...and I can't really fix that. I'm definitely no artist. 05.56.54 # <[Saint]> I've come up with a few things for my own usage and testing but they're definitely not "cabbie". 05.57.29 # <[Saint]> bland, sterile, blocky, simple, devoid of color wps. 05.57.33 # i dunno.. 05.58.35 Quit rdn (Remote host closed the connection) 05.58.55 # <[Saint]> I know that I am pretty much capable of whipping up any ideas that anyone has about how to implement a clean and functional touch UI, but the problem is that no one seems to be having these ideas. 05.58.56 Join thegeek [0] (~thegeek@60.36.34.95.customer.cdi.no) 06.07.18 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 06.13.50 Quit cmhobbs (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 06.20.37 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 06.24.43 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@ip70-178-52-92.ks.ks.cox.net) 06.24.43 Quit cmhobbs (Changing host) 06.24.43 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 06.26.14 Join webguest14 [0] (~ad5836a4@www.haxx.se) 06.26.41 Quit webguest14 (Client Quit) 06.26.44 Quit |akaWolf| (Quit: my exit) 06.29.42 Quit cmhobbs (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 07.03.29 Join Rower [0] (~husvagn@90-230-140-28-no41.tbcn.telia.com) 07.15.03 Join webguest19 [0] (~ad5836a4@www.haxx.se) 07.15.29 Quit webguest19 (Client Quit) 07.19.09 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 07.23.08 Quit Pandark (Quit: Leaving) 07.26.29 Quit cmhobbs (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 07.42.20 Join mortalis [0] (~kvirc@213.33.220.118) 07.55.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.01.21 Quit DexterLB (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.06.36 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@87-126-18-212.btc-net.bg) 08.24.39 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.25.31 Quit DexterLB (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.30.38 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@87-126-18-212.btc-net.bg) 09.01.16 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.02.57 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 09.02.57 Quit petur (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.03.16 Nick SuperBrainAK is now known as DormantBrain (~andy@2001:470:8:a61::5f92:59a1) 09.05.58 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E43DE0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 09.06.17 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@2001:638:605:4:6c54:71c:b8c7:52bd) 09.10.48 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@46.18.27.126) 09.11.08 Quit lorenzo92 (Remote host closed the connection) 09.24.05 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@sestofw01.enea.se) 09.24.05 Quit Zagor (Changing host) 09.24.05 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.31.43 Quit DexterLB (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.32.14 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.32.14 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@87-126-18-212.btc-net.bg) 09.42.04 Quit DexterLB (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.42.45 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@87-126-18-212.btc-net.bg) 09.44.55 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09.53.11 Quit DexterLB (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.53.46 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@87-126-18-212.btc-net.bg) 09.55.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.04.32 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 10.21.15 Quit DexterLB (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.21.49 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@87-126-18-212.btc-net.bg) 10.32.25 Quit DexterLB (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.32.50 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@87-126-18-212.btc-net.bg) 10.56.50 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@lns-c10k-ld-02-m-212-194-176-149.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) 11.00.58 Quit DexterLB (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.05.53 Join DexterLB [0] (~dex@87-126-18-212.btc-net.bg) 11.12.40 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.51.52 # saratoga_: I think FAT32 doesn't support file >2GB 11.52.45 # ah no, it can go up to 4GB-1 11.55.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.56.06 Quit Elfish (Remote host closed the connection) 11.59.02 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12.07.17 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 12.12.38 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 12.24.23 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12.53.52 # pamaury: is there any news about NWZ-E360? 13.28.17 Join rdn [0] (~oop@cpe-69-204-124-212.buffalo.res.rr.com) 13.42.16 # lebellium: should be done this week. 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