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13.22.38 # yeah, sound working on Creative ZEN \o/ 13.23.58 # great 13.24.14 # but I only have the Zen x-fi style :( 13.27.18 # If you have two of them, I'm ready to buy one, I have been unable to find one 13.30.02 # Arf I only have one, gifted by Creative at the time 13.30.50 # http://www.leboncoin.fr/image_son/552974554.htm?ca=12_s 13.31.02 # maybe a bit too expensive 13.33.00 # Ah thanks, I'll try. But many many times I get no answer on leboncoin, we'll see with this one 13.34.17 # Otherwise I can lend mine to you for a few weeks or months. But as you know I can't sell ou gift it since it's part of my collection :) 13.39.49 # I'll see if I get this one firs 13.39.51 # t 13.41.04 # the other player I *really* want is the Zen X-Fi2 with internal sd model (the other is the nand model). Apparently the NAND model was mostly sold in Europe and the SD model some other places 13.41.35 # Hum 13.41.45 # I thought the internal SD model was only the rare 64GB version 13.43.16 # maybe, I don't know 13.43.43 # Each time I see a Zen X-Fi2 on leboncoin, I ask the model, never seen a SD model yet. Nor a 64GB version 13.44.01 # I'm pretty sure for the 64GB version 13.44.20 # It was the cheapest 64GB player on the market 13.44.23 # because of that :) 13.44.47 # because it uses internal sd ? 13.44.52 # yes 13.45.17 # hum, internal sd is like nand + controller, how can this be less expensive ? 13.45.29 # it must be freaking expensive anyway, and it's not a very good player anyway 13.45.36 # hum 13.45.49 # I thought using a SD card is cheaper than NAND 13.45.59 # anyway, the 64GB version has a specific firmware 13.46.51 # I don't know. I know the installer has two firmwares: one nand and one sd, that's all I know 13.46.57 # so maybe you are right 13.47.31 # Then I'll never find a cheap sd model :( 13.49.31 # the 64GB version cost "only" $250 back to 2011 http://web.archive.org/web/20110326054402/http://us.store.creative.com/Creative-ZEN-XFi2-MP3-Player-64GB/M/B003G4T508.htm 13.50.24 # yeah, "only" :) 13.51.00 # heh, that was the price of a 32GB player at that time :) 13.52.02 # that's still ridiculous when you know the price of a 64GB micro sd card 13.53.03 # indeed 13.53.18 # so I don't know, I hope for you some 16 and 32GB variants also use internalSD 13.53.57 # I know one guy with a sd model, I'll ask him what is the capacity. Since the guy lives in brazil or so, development is not quite easy ^^ 13.56.43 # the creative website says 13.56.44 # "ZEN X-Fi2 DVP-FL0012, DVP-FL0015/PF2494 (64GB)" 13.56.54 # I don't know how it is supposed to be understood 13.57.07 # I understand it as DVP-FL0015 or PF2494 is only 64GB 13.57.16 # I don't know either, I know the installer only has two firmwares, not three 14.03.27 # Well what I said made no sense. I don't think DVP-FL0015 and PF2494 are 2 different variants. DVP-FL0015/PF2494 is most likely the full reference number of the 64GB variant, the only one SD based :) 14.05.43 # I asked the guy to tell me the model written at the back of his player, we'll have a definite answer I hope 14.05.56 # I hope so 14.07.17 # does the Zen X-Fi Style has a radio ? 14.07.30 # the PCB scan on the wiki suggests not 14.08.01 # Yes it has FM radio 14.08.17 # hum, then the scan must be incomplete 14.09.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.12.34 # who took the picture? 14.13.04 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 14.17.14 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc1-brig15-2-0-cust755.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 14.26.11 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 14.27.46 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 14.37.29 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 14.37.30 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 14.38.25 # Are there nand chips with more the 2 planes? 14.39.34 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14.43.30 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 14.43.47 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@184.76.254.130) 14.48.17 Nick megal0maniac_afk is now known as megal0maniac (~megal0man@unaffiliated/megal0maniac) 14.58.47 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 15.03.21 Quit Raptors_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.04.20 Nick megal0maniac is now known as megal0maniac_afk (~megal0man@unaffiliated/megal0maniac) 15.13.57 # wodz: I don't know, 15.14.11 # lebellium: Mohammed Tarik, he wanted to do the port but ran out of time apparently 15.18.19 Join RiD [0] (~RiD@194.65.234.26) 15.18.23 Quit RiD (Client Quit) 15.19.00 Join DerPapst [0] (~DerPapst@wlan-nat-24.fh-friedberg.de) 15.19.03 # rk27xx OF flash driver does some strange rounding/aligning when translating sector-> flash page. I don't quite understand what it does. This is definitely not ftl stuff. 15.19.21 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 15.22.59 # wodz: apparently nands may have up to 8 planes 15.23.19 # you mean dies, don't you? 15.24.50 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@184.76.254.130) 15.28.11 # yes I think 15.29.21 # Tell me if I'm wrong but basically: N bytes = 1 pages, M pages = 1 block, P blocks = 1 plane, Q plane s= 1 LUN, each physical chip mayeb have several LUNs, each LUN has its own chip enable 15.31.27 # pamaury: I think there are chips which have N dies connected internally (no separate CSs). 15.32.09 # The ONFI specifies that each must have its own CE if I read correctly. But some NAND don't follow the ONFI spec 15.32.09 # and for plane blocks are interleaved so for two plane nand all odd blocks are in one plane and all even are on the second 15.32.10 Join maruk [0] (~papier@titanium.v6.sdv.fr) 15.33.21 Nick dv__ is now known as dv_ (~quassel@chello080108009040.14.11.vie.surfer.at) 15.33.28 # Raw nands should die. eMMC/eSD are so much nicer to work with 15.33.34 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 15.36.30 # sorry, there is one chip enable per device, a device maybe have several LUN and chip may have several devices 15.36.46 # that's all very confusing :-/ 15.36.56 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 15.44.29 Quit cmhobbs (Remote host closed the connection) 15.56.42 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Vamoose!) 16.09.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.17.22 # lebellium: got the ZEN X-Fi Style :) 16.17.46 # A bit expensive but at least I have it. Just need to wait to receive it 16.19.27 # lebellium: the guy's zen x-fi2 model is DVP-FL0015. 16.28.55 # pamaury: maybe the RB fund can help? 16.29.07 # It's the 64GB variant right? 16.31.25 # I don't know, I asked the capacity but he didn't answered 16.33.27 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.39.37 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-224-121.mcn.bellsouth.net) 16.41.00 Quit DormantBrain (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 16.43.27 Join DormantBrain [0] (~andy@74.112.200.73) 16.43.33 Nick DormantBrain is now known as SuperBrainAK (~andy@74.112.200.73) 16.51.25 # I don't remember who manages the fund, I would appreciate any help of the fund of course 16.54.20 # Zagor 16.55.15 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Vamoose!) 16.56.21 # sounds on the ZEN X-Fi \o/ 16.59.12 # lebellium: 16GB capacity 16.59.30 # oh 16.59.33 # that's interesting 17.00.14 # so at least you're not obliged to buy a rare and expensive 64GB version to get the internalSD variant 17.00.16 # good news 17.00.35 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 17.01.07 # yeah, but finding the SD model seems hard in France 17.05.42 # well it's never referred as "DVP-FL0015" when a Zen X-Fi 2 is for sale so it's quite boring if you have to ask every seller to check the sticker on the back :S 17.05.58 Join bzed_ [0] (~bzed@devel.recluse.de) 17.06.00 Quit bzed (Remote host closed the connection) 17.06.01 Nick bzed_ is now known as bzed (~bzed@devel.recluse.de) 17.15.15 # lebellium: that's what I did for the last 5 or so I saw on leboncoin recently 17.16.02 # I just asked http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251360600725&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:DE:1123 17.16.11 # maybe we'll be more lucky in Germany :) 17.16.25 # I'll let you know 17.20.36 Quit mortalis (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 17.41.35 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:0:c38c:c38c:b1:4ab0:3d69:beb9) 18.08.01 Join Guest17648 [0] (~husvagn@90-230-140-28-no41.tbcn.telia.com) 18.09.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.11.47 Quit habys (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.12.41 Join habys [0] (~luke@arikui.org) 18.19.45 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.21.28 Join Wardo [0] (~Mirandaha@176-120-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) 18.21.57 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.21.57 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 18.21.57 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.23.27 Quit habys (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.25.19 Join habys [0] (~luke@arikui.org) 18.25.37 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 18.32.48 Quit maruk (Quit: Leaving.) 18.38.25 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 18.41.12 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 18.47.25 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 19.06.55 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:27:773:0:feed:c0f:fee) 19.16.41 Join Narod- [0] (~Narod@p5DDDB7B7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.17.13 Quit [7] (Read error: Operation timed out) 19.17.37 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 19.18.34 Quit Narod (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 19.18.50 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-168-30.student.uu.se) 19.18.50 Quit n1s (Changing host) 19.18.50 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 19.34.21 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.214.103) 19.35.23 Join Raptors [0] (~whoneedsa@198-200-68-213.cpe.distributel.net) 19.55.09 Join DerPapst [0] (~DerPapst@p5DC3CE0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.06.44 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@bsod.vpn.tu-clausthal.de) 20.09.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.20.06 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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