--- Log for 29.10.113 Server: pratchett.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 9 days ago 00.08.13 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.09.04 Part foolsh 00.12.47 Join thegeek_ [0] (~thegeek@60.36.34.95.customer.cdi.no) 00.13.08 Join Dynion [0] (4dac8371@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.172.131.113) 00.13.10 # hey guys 00.14.10 Quit thegeek (Read error: Operation timed out) 00.15.01 # i've been trying to gain some info about the philips HDD6320... then i realised i don't know anything about it so i don't know what i should look at 00.15.30 # does anyone have any experience with the dap or it's contents? 00.19.15 # <[Saint]> wHAT DO YOU MEAN? 00.19.27 # <[Saint]> lETS START WITH "WHAT ARE YOUR INTENTIONS?" 00.19.33 # <[Saint]> Bah. Caps. 00.20.17 # put rockbox on it and use it as daily player... i used to have an ipod 5th gen with rockbox and i loved it 00.21.05 # is it about the same quality (audio quality that is) or is there a large difference? It looks nice at least 00.23.45 # <[Saint]> For the installation, you would want to look at the wiki page for the device ( http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/GoGearHDD6330 ) - which is linked from the main page. 00.24.58 # <[Saint]> As for the sound quality, it is doubtful that this device will have a sound quality as good as or better than the iPod Video. 00.25.33 # <[Saint]> But, sound quality is subjective for most people...so, I unno. 00.26.46 # <[Saint]> But, anyway - though it may not be immediately obvious, the port status pages are linked on the main page for "unstable" targets. 00.34.54 # When i want to use the battery benchmark, all it says is: Cannot create file Plugin returned error 00.34.59 # Is this a known problem? 00.39.13 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@72.25.63.179) 00.43.05 # gevaerts: just for information, I have reverse engineered the usb packet master enough to probably forge any class analysis key 00.50.57 # @ saint... thanks 00.51.27 # also... how's the android port going? is there any way i can help with it without being smart? 00.53.32 # Dynion: you dont have to be smart to be involved. just use rockbox, file bugs, read the wiki, update anything you see that doesnt seem correct. 00.54.01 # i've always done that:) i've been able to get 5 other to use rockbox too 00.54.16 # one guy didnt like it. i believe he's in some sewer no =) 00.55.21 # also... i saw u guys are using paypall now (or i started using it since the last time i was here... dunno) 00.55.39 # i might make use of that option:) you guys gave me plenty of fun doing this 00.57.58 # i always get people... "you always have weird stuff.. tube amplifiers, chinese phones, laptops completely build to your style... and you have an APPLE IPOD????" 00.58.10 # they only understand when i boot it:P 01.13.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.15.49 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01.16.18 # nevermind my question above, solved it 01.26.15 Quit Dynion (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 01.42.12 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01.42.57 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@66.233.224.206) 02.16.58 Nick Strife89 is now known as Strife89|NotHere (~Strife89@2602:306:250e:a659:e535:a2ae:bf02:b9e0) 02.20.42 Nick Strife89|NotHere is now known as Strife89 (~Strife89@2602:306:250e:a659:e535:a2ae:bf02:b9e0) 02.23.28 Nick Strife89 is now known as Strife89|NotHere (~Strife89@2602:306:250e:a659:e535:a2ae:bf02:b9e0) 02.51.23 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@ip70-178-52-92.ks.ks.cox.net) 02.51.23 Quit cmhobbs (Changing host) 02.51.23 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 02.51.46 Quit habys (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 02.53.20 Join habys [0] (~luke@arikui.org) 03.01.50 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-230-13.mcn.bellsouth.net) 03.13.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.46.03 Quit rdn (Remote host closed the connection) 03.50.41 Join foolsh [0] (~foolsh@c-24-14-134-34.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 03.53.11 # I'm trying to push something to gerrit review with "git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master" like in the wiki and I'm used that command before to do so 03.53.19 # but I'm getting "! 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Just like screen locking with the apple firmware. 11.54.15 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 11.54.41 # K1773R: yes. it should be in the manual. which player model do you have? 12.01.41 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@66.233.224.206) 12.06.13 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.07.11 # Zagor: an 6th gen iPod Classic (2007er variants). using latest (latest as of the ones available there) rockbox installed trough the emCore wiki 12.08.01 # it has hold switch doesn't it? 12.08.25 # Zagor: any news with php / tracker issue? 12.08.50 # wodz: no. I have no clue what the bug is. 12.10.16 # Zagor: the tracker has a different issue too 12.10.39 # stackoverflow seems to suggest setting date.timezone in php.ini to fix that one 12.11.12 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@66.233.224.206) 12.14.09 # gevaerts: done. better? 12.14.34 # Yes 12.14.47 # A pity it doesn't also magically fix the empty lines :) 12.15.00 # \o/ - at least one thing fixed 12.16.03 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12.17.51 # wodz: not like the hold switch, like the GUI screenlock apple has. ie a pincode to unlock it 12.19.52 # Zagor: the weird thing is that the empty line issue went away for a brief time on Bagder's blog last week... 12.22.44 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@66.233.224.206) 12.32.23 # euh? that's weird. 12.38.05 # K1773R: no we don't have that 12.39.00 Quit [Saint] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.40.56 Join [Saint] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/user/saint) 12.46.41 # gevaerts: Do you remember what was the technical proposition to solve modularization of the core with help of relocatable 'modules'? 12.47.26 # gevaerts: I recall Torne proposed something I can't find now in logs 12.47.31 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 13.10.24 # <[Saint]> K1773R: it would be trivial to implement as an lua plugin that ran on boot, but that could be rather easily subverted by anyone with a little bit of knowledge of Rockbox's inner workings. 13.11.18 # <[Saint]> If you really wanted to you could probably sit down and write it over a weekend. 13.12.07 # <[Saint]> LUA is fairly easy to pick up, and there is tonnes of example cases and documentation out there. 13.13.10 # <[Saint]> But, in general, its a fairly silly idea...as it is *so* easily subverted its not funny. 13.13.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.14.22 # <[Saint]> Even disregarding the fact that you could just mount the device and remove the plugin and use it anyway, the other really obvious way to get around it is to boot into the original firmware and get in that way. You can't do anything to secure the original firmware. 13.14.55 # <[Saint]> And not all targets allow for the removal of the OF. 13.16.17 # <[Saint]> TL;DR: Possible, certainly. And even trivial. But rather silly in the end. 13.18.44 # [Saint]: yea, the idea behind is more like "keep retards away from it in case anyone looks at it" 13.22.02 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@ip70-178-52-92.ks.ks.cox.net) 13.22.02 Quit cmhobbs (Changing host) 13.22.02 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 13.25.49 # wodz: no. To be honest, I don't even remember any real discussion about this... 13.26.54 # thats a pitty 13.28.29 # I'll tell Torne to get in here :) 13.35.38 Join krabador [0] (~krabador_@unaffiliated/krabador) 13.46.25 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 13.47.02 Join Torne [0] (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 13.47.04 # what? :) 13.47.53 # Torne: You had some idea how modularization of the core could work with help of relocatable modules 13.48.20 # Torne: I mean symbol resolving and so on 13.48.31 # maybe? 13.48.47 # Torne: Could you say something about possible ways? 13.49.24 # oh. well, the "obvious" way is just to use normal ELF dynamic symbols.. 13.49.44 # and do dynamic linking the normal way 13.50.04 # I recall you said it to be expensive 13.50.12 # yeah, that might be considered expensive 13.50.24 # since it's link-by-name 13.51.03 # linking by ordinal would be more like how plugins currently work 13.51.17 # where they're just offsets into a list of function pointers 13.51.35 # but there isn't really good toolchain support for linking by ordinal 13.51.45 # since it's basically a windows-DLL-specific concept 13.53.05 # continuing to do our own adhoc thing is also an option 13.53.14 # e.g. extending plugin api to include more core functions 13.53.46 # and maybe have a kinda "reverse" plugin api where a plugin for a specific function can register entrypoints 13.54.09 # (currently the "reverse" plugin API is just one symbol, the entrypoint, but we already pass arguments to it to potentially run the plugin differently, so it's not that different) 13.55.13 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 13.55.17 # by the way If we know core exported functions pointers can't we just patch call address on plugin load instead of introducing indirect call? 13.55.17 # not sure what else, really :) 13.55.41 # wodz: you could, but you'd need to have a relocation table in the plugin binary then 13.55.56 # currently the indirect calls are actually in the source code of the plugin 13.56.01 # plugin_api->foo() 13.56.22 # you could change the plugin sources so that the core functions are just defined as extern 13.56.26 # and call them directly 13.56.32 # and then end up with a binary with undefined symbols in it 13.56.42 # but then you're doing dynamic linking :) 13.57.11 # hmm, I must read more about dynamic linking then 13.57.29 # if you build a PIC dynamic binary, which is what you'd have to do to be able to load it at arbitrary addresses, the compiler/linker will indirect all the calls anyway via GOT/etc 13.57.54 # * [Saint] wonders why CE-ATA Classic transfer speed is ass under Rockbox. 13.57.57 # <[Saint]> 6MB/s 13.57.59 # the *nix .so model doesn't really allow for that indirection not to happen 13.59.00 # <[Saint]> Compared to my trusty 5.5G Video, that should in theory have a much slower disk, getting a solid 12MB/s for bulk transfer. 13.59.05 # <[Saint]> Its odd. 13.59.23 # Torne: So there is no simple way to have a table {addr, function name} and patch branch address on load? 13.59.23 # [Saint]: it's an entirely different driver 13.59.39 # wodz: regular position dependent binaries have exactly that (text relocations) 13.59.47 # <[Saint]> gevaerts: Oh, I know this, I just didn't think it was /that/ bad. 14.00.02 # but position dependent binaries are, yaknow, position dependent. you have to apply text relocs to them for all their *internal* references as well 14.00.17 # <[Saint]> And I have no idea how to improve upon it. 14.00.22 # <[Saint]> Too low level for me. 14.00.40 # wodz: no system really uses direct branches between dynamically linked modules 14.01.10 # text relocations are bad, they remove your ability to share pages between processes 14.01.17 # not a consideration for us, since we only have one address space 14.01.32 # but toolchains/ABIs are not really designed around us :) 14.02.02 # depending on OS/ABI/etc you indirect via PLT/GOT entries, or via a DLL import table, or via other constructs 14.02.16 # our plugin api struct is effectively an import table :) 14.02.37 # yes that bit I understand 14.02.41 # just one we implement explicitly in the source, instead of implicitly in the linker and dynamic linker 14.03.10 # anyway, even if we did have text relocs the relocation table would potentially be quite big 14.03.27 # the advantage of using a GOT/whatever is there's only one entry to patch for each symbol you use, instead of one for each callsite 14.03.48 # and the table is all contiguous in memory so you can patch them all pretty efficiently (especially on paged systems where you needn't load the rest of the binary at all) 14.04.35 # anywya, yeah, if we actually wanted to move to having a less explicit way of doing linkage between components you should probably start by studying how dynamic linking works on linux and also pecifically how it works in ARM EABI 14.04.54 # different CPU ABIs use somewhat different methods of actually linking :/ 14.05.11 # different kinds/numbers of relocs, different sections with different kinds of indirection 14.05.21 # depends if the CPU has PC-relative addressing modes, etc 14.05.45 # I will look at ARM only if ever 14.06.00 # wodz: oh, another reason why people don't generally branch directly is on ARM the branch range is not normally sufficient 14.06.07 # you typically need to load the address from memory anyway 14.06.15 # so you may as well have every callsite load the address from a single offset table 14.06.23 # ah right, the famoust veneers 14.06.41 # Well, the veneers are stuff inserted by the static linker to extend branch range 14.07.00 # with dynamic linking, the static linker doesn't know at link time whether the target will be in range or not 14.07.04 # so it has to be pessimistic and assume it's not 14.07.13 # since the dynamic linker can't easily insert a veneer 14.07.49 # there may be nowhere left in the address space to even create one that's close enough :) 14.08.12 # in general case yes 14.08.18 Join foolsh [0] (~foolsh@c-24-14-134-34.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 14.09.13 # ok, so the most obvious solution is to study dynamic linking and write dynamic loader 14.09.16 # then there's the further problem that having callsites all load the address from a single offset table means the *offset table* has to be in range of a PC-relative load ;) 14.09.38 # so sometimes you end up jumping to an actual load instruction in the offset table which then loads the address from pc+4, or whatever 14.09.41 # it varies :) 14.10.36 # well this will be the case of iram stuff, no? 14.10.54 # hm? no, i mean, sometimes the ABI specifies that *all* dynamic symbols are invoked like that 14.11.03 # oh 14.11.13 # again, it varies with different ABIs 14.11.37 # i don't recall all the detauls of EABI's choices in this area because symbian didn't use dynamic objects 14.11.49 # but rather the DLL linkage model, which is completely different 14.12.21 # I am afraid I know too little to follow. 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Does playing both of the duplicates work? Note: you might have to insert the tracks in the playlist as opposed to just clicking them as that'll add both in the same view i think (if it works like the file browser) 20.11.35 # yes I'm using Linux 20.12.05 # i think there are file managers that do this on linux too 20.12.41 # Does playing both of the duplicates work? Yes If I clik next I have two the same songe one ofter one 20.13.09 # *after 20.16.04 # crystal_: ok, when playing first one of them and then the other you can see the path to the file if you open the info screen from the context menu in the wps, do they point to the same file? 20.16.51 # I'm not sure I have not my mp3player here, I can check this tomorrow :( 20.17.41 # So maybe I will check this tomorrow, and I will login here 20.18.39 # ok one more thing. 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