--- Log for 18.12.113 Server: barjavel.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 9 days and 4 hours ago 00.01.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.04.22 Join Kohlio [0] (~kohlrabi@94-23-217-152.kimsufi.com) 00.04.53 Quit Kohlrabi (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 00.06.39 Nick Kohlio is now known as Kohlrabi (~kohlrabi@94-23-217-152.kimsufi.com) 00.26.32 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 00.32.19 Quit ender` (Quit: The effect of a cosmetic program on the Finn's grotesque features was definitely the weirdest thing Bobby had ever seen, as though somebody had gone after the face of a dead gopher with a full range of mortician's crayons and paraffin injections. -- Wil) 00.35.27 Part jmspeex 00.55.52 Quit Narod () 01.04.16 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0/20131209204824]) 01.24.02 Join JdGordon1 [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.25.33 Quit JdGordon| (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.34.43 Join treaki_ [0] (d53ee92dab@p4FF4A6A1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.38.31 Quit treaki__ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.01.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.18.29 Quit ^7heo (Disconnected by services) 03.19.02 Join ^7heo [0] (~7heo@p5792D744.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 04.01.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.09.53 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.09.53 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.09.53 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.09.53 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.09.54 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.09.56 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.38.13 Join Katu [0] (~Katu@c-98-247-202-25.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 04.39.32 # Is there a good solid reference for the resistance values of various docks on iPods? For example, 66KOhms for Line Out docking, etc 04.40.30 # i beleive they are in the *cough* leaked accessory protocol spec doc 04.41.33 # Ahh, I see I see. I suppose that is not super easy to get ahold of? 04.42.28 # Wait, I think I found it 04.44.11 # I suppose the better question to ask would be this: I am building a Line Out dock, and I would like to charge at the same time. If I just solder up the appropriate pins for +5 and GND, is that good enough, or do I need to do more for charging? 04.44.37 # i dunno :D 04.44.51 # haha, fair enough 04.46.21 Quit Katu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.46.48 Join Katu [0] (~Katu@c-98-247-202-25.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 04.52.52 # Poo. The iPod accessory protocol page that is linked off of Rockbox.org only has the hex codes. Nothing for resistance values :( 04.58.02 # <[Saint]> http://irq5.io/2012/06/25/the-apple-30-pin-dock-connector/ 04.58.13 # <[Saint]> The Internet knows all about this. 04.59.13 # <[Saint]> blargh. pasted the wrong link. 05.01.07 # <[Saint]> Here's the one I was looking at, sorry: http://www.hardwarebook.info/IPod_Dock 05.02.06 # <[Saint]> says you'll want 1.0 kΩ across 21 to ground to convince it its a docking station (and presumably allow charging) 05.14.31 Quit yosafbridge (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 05.21.36 Join yosafbridge [0] (~yosafbrid@li125-242.members.linode.com) 05.30.35 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 05.30.48 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.43.25 # Cool deal Saint. I had run across that page before, I just wasn't sure whether it would force the rockboxed iPod into the HID mode, which it seems to readily do with most modern docking stations that I have tested with 05.44.13 Quit cmhobbs (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 05.44.17 # <[Saint]> Well, you could always just disable HID. 05.44.23 # <[Saint]> Or, build without it entirely. 05.44.49 # Yeah, unfortunately for me I have become quite attached to HID mode while connected to the computer hahaha 05.45.21 # I tend to not own keyboards with multimedia keys, so I like having the iPod act as a set, for when I am at my comp, the iPod is often there as well 05.45.57 # I suppose I can just get hands on a few snap-together 30-pin connectors and just make one and find out though 05.48.28 # <[Saint]> Those 30pin ridax connectors are cheap as chips. 06.01.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.07.01 Join Strife1989 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-236-8.mcn.bellsouth.net) 06.07.23 # So this is so far the site I have found for the bare 30-pin connector assembly. Do you have any other sources? 06.07.26 # https://www.sparkfun.com/products/633 06.22.33 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@ip70-178-52-92.ks.ks.cox.net) 06.22.33 Quit cmhobbs (Changing host) 06.22.33 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 06.29.17 Quit cmhobbs (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 07.05.19 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07.14.03 Quit Katu (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 07.30.10 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 07.32.15 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 07.36.31 Join mortalis|2 [0] (~kvirc@213.33.220.118) 07.36.44 Nick mortalis|2 is now known as mortalis (~kvirc@213.33.220.118) 08.01.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.09.55 Join fragilematter [0] (~fragilema@unaffiliated/fragilematter) 08.20.14 Join rastal [0] (~rastal@31.7.56.133) 08.34.05 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.42.36 Join LinusN [0] (linus@giant.haxx.se) 08.43.45 Join GLC- [0] (clg@56k.modeemi.net) 08.44.23 Quit CLG- (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.44.52 Quit Raptors (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.45.10 Join Raptors [0] (~whoneedsa@198-200-68-213.cpe.distributel.net) 08.47.23 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 08.48.14 Quit GLC- (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.48.43 Join GLC- [0] (clg@56k.modeemi.net) 08.53.32 Join petur [0] (5bb7304d@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.12.27 # <^7heo> toehser: thanks for the info. 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I have some errors with my oldest Sandisk Clip + 10.47.19 # <^7heo> (usb related errors, with "undefined instruction" messages) 10.49.17 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 10.49.48 # <^7heo> it seems to be related to the microsd card 10.50.06 # <^7heo> (i.e. when I remove it, if I plug the device in, everything works like a charm) 10.51.15 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 10.53.06 # <^7heo> maybe it would be meaningful to display a warning when installing rockbox: "please remove any memory card and other extensions attached to your rockbox device." 10.53.20 # <^7heo> since it can pretty much cause stupid errors to happen. 10.59.08 # did you select the correct mount point? 11.03.08 Quit Raptors (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.03.34 Join Raptors [0] (~whoneedsa@198-200-68-213.cpe.distributel.net) 11.07.13 Quit kugel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.07.18 Join treaki_ [0] (cc95940e9b@p4FF4B39B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 11.09.10 Join kugel [0] 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 18.21.47 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.212.55) 18.41.02 # * [Saint] boggles at "Even more EQ bands are necessary for many users" 18.41.16 # <[Saint]> ...and I thought 10 would keep them happy. 18.48.10 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.48.10 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 18.48.10 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.52.33 Quit Tukeke (Quit: Tukeke) 18.56.43 Quit ender| (*.net *.split) 18.56.44 Quit AlexP (*.net *.split) 18.56.44 Quit endee_ (*.net *.split) 18.56.48 Quit Karrde (*.net *.split) 18.56.48 Quit Ketturi (*.net *.split) 18.56.48 Quit alexbobp (*.net *.split) 19.02.24 # [Saint]: audiophools, probably 19.02.47 # <[Saint]> ZThe post that comes from is brilliant. 19.02.51 # <[Saint]> -Z 19.03.17 # <[Saint]> Your mob over at Hydrogenaudio, get 'em. :p 19.03.29 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@wsip-70-166-234-2.ks.ks.cox.net) 19.03.29 Quit cmhobbs (Changing host) 19.03.29 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 19.05.48 # * copper learned how to replicate his desktop setup with just 2 parametric bands :) 19.13.01 Join ender| [0] (krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 19.13.01 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 19.13.01 Join endee_ [0] (sid15467@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uraereqniyorgbdg) 19.13.01 Join Karrde [0] (alucard@karrde.kiserai.net) 19.13.01 Join Ketturi [0] (ketturi@hilla.kapsi.fi) 19.13.01 Join alexbobp [0] (~alex@capitalthree.pwnz.org) 19.31.34 Quit DormantBrain (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.34.31 Join DormantBrain [0] (~andy@74.112.200.73) 19.34.35 Nick DormantBrain is now known as SuperBrainAK (~andy@74.112.200.73) 19.49.08 Quit pretty_function (Remote host closed the connection) 20.01.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.17.50 Quit cmhobbs (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.23.04 Join Narod- [0] (~Narod@p5DDDB20F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.25.09 Quit Narod (Remote host closed the connection) 20.31.05 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 20.35.17 Join Raptors [0] (~whoneedsa@198-200-68-213.cpe.distributel.net) 20.47.58 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@2602:306:250d:18b9:3817:c7d7:d17d:cf51) 20.59.26 Quit Raptors (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.08.01 Quit y4n (Quit: MOTHER EUROPA CALLING ME!) 21.15.29 Join ikeboy [0] (~ikeboy@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 21.29.31 Join rela_ [0] (~x@pD9E55DC1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.31.53 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21.33.30 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 21.40.52 Quit ikeboy (Read error: Operation timed out) 21.48.03 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-207-223-0.dynamic.chello.pl) 21.48.46 # [Saint]: You opened can of worms adding more eq bands definitely 21.49.25 # <[Saint]> Its not like there aren't other opportunities for users to do stupid things. 21.49.45 # <[Saint]> It certainly can be used sanely. Users just by and large...don't. 21.50.10 Quit rela_ (Quit: Leaving) 21.50.29 # sure, but this particularly 21.51.01 # wooo, now I have 1000000 bands available lets us'em all 21.51.08 # <[Saint]> Well, I'm absolutely fine with making it configurable with a sane default. 21.51.21 # <[Saint]> That should please evryone. 21.51.28 # <[Saint]> *everyone, too 21.52.18 # The only solution I can see now is to provide visual feedback of the filter response (aka true graphic eq) 21.52.20 # <[Saint]> The idea of using 10 bands was to allow users to easily port settings from most commercial equipment and software, but the desire to enable all the bands seems to strong. 21.52.30 # <[Saint]> Even after removing all the presets. 21.52.43 # <[Saint]> *too 21.54.13 Quit cmhobbs (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.55.39 # I wonder how those people measure such frequency response of headphones. 21.56.18 # <[Saint]> witchcraft. 22.01.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.03.05 # no, they trust their totally trustworthy ears :) 22.04.08 Quit onder` (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 22.04.45 # bluebrother: That too. If you post measurements from pro FRAs they respond that they hear the difference which equipment can't catch :-) 22.05.12 # it's always good to hear things the equipment cannot output :) 22.07.07 # <[Saint]> Like CIA cancer beams? 22.08.09 Join onder` [0] (~onder@dyn-dsl-to-76-75-115-88.nexicom.net) 22.13.35 # kugel: (log) Do I understand correctly that the first 3 fields of buflib cookie are const for given allocation (L,H and C from the comment at the beginning of buflib.c) ? 22.14.49 Join tertu|net [0] (41808a88@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.128.138.136) 22.15.39 # out of curiosity, is there anything i could do when i connect a non-working accessory to my ipod that would help the debugging process? 22.15.39 Quit bluebrother (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.15.40 Quit fs-bluebot (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.16.09 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 22.18.15 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 22.19.36 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g226068042.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.31.56 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@91-66-52-103-dynip.superkabel.de) 22.31.56 Quit kugel (Changing host) 22.31.56 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 22.35.36 Quit ender` (Quit: Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. 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Kernighan) 22.35.57 # kugel: If I free test alloc from debug screen am I going to promote cascade of move_block() ? 22.36.45 # hmm, apparently no 22.40.04 Part LinusN 23.10.11 # ok, with my very simple buflib cookie integrity checking I see cookie corruption when returning from usb screen in simulator 23.11.42 # I need to study this somewhat more to be 100% sure that cookie checking is correct 23.16.49 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 23.16.50 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 23.17.21 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Leaving) 23.18.10 # Changing themes also triggers corruption but not always (I can switch cabbie with failsafe just fine). 23.19.31 # It should be possible to add some logging to the theme engine to see what exactly it's parsing and displaying, as well as running the check at each of those iterations 23.20.01 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 23.20.58 Quit Narod- () 23.21.08 # wodz: seems consistent with the bug reports 23.22.14 # wodz: in the debug screen, a click on the first alloc frees it, a click on all others makes a temp alloc (which is freed immediately). This one causes a move for all allocs 23.24.08 Join Stefan____ [0] (5d6854ba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.104.84.186) 23.25.20 # Hi, I'd like to update FM presets for Munich/Germany. Can anyone please add me to the WikiUsersGroup? 23.26.36 # P.S.: My WikiName is: StefanB 23.35.12 # kugel: I am looking at buflib_compact(). Is it safe to do block += len in main loop? len is uninitialized when the loop is entered 23.36.09 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.36.09 Quit Scromple (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.42.09 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@161.43.73.67) 23.43.40 Join saratoga [0] (47e22765@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.226.39.101) 23.44.44 # Stefan____: that screen where it says your account will be deleted if its not your real name, its not kidding :) 23.45.07 # if you fix your name let me know what it is and i'll enable it 23.45.49 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 23.49.50 # @saratoga: Thanks, but I usually don't reveal my real last name in the Internet (except for my homepage). Thus I can't contribute my updated FM presets here. 23.50.59 # if you change your mind, let me know 23.52.22 # whats the easiest way to update my git checkout without throwing away all my changes? 23.53.04 # saratoga: possibly git stash / git stash pop 23.53.09 # wodz: len is not used uninitialised 23.53.11 # With the update in between 23.53.22 # wodz: it is assigned in the first iteration 23.54.31 # well, it is almost ever better to commit locally then to stash 23.54.41 Quit Stefan____ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 23.54.46 # *even 23.54.50 # if they're changes i don't want to ever commit to rockbox what should I do 23.55.02 # yeah, create a branch and commit everything there, then checkout master again and update there 23.55.12 # exactly 23.55.43 # * gevaerts just pushes his weird proof of concept experiments to gerrit :) 23.55.43 # you can always cherry-pick parts of later if you change your mind 23.56.00 # gevaerts: which subject? 23.56.21 # wodz: I mean, when I have stuff I don't want to lose 23.56.25 # Not *not* :) 23.56.32 # ah 23.56.36 Join tertu [0] (~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net) 23.56.42 # Things like the streaming setup or the loopback usb stuff 23.58.03 Quit Scromple (Read error: Connection reset by peer)