--- Log for 22.01.114 Server: adams.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 24 days and 7 hours ago 00.01.16 # preglow: no 00.01.46 # the trick was to request more chunks before speex overruns 00.02.31 # it appears to be a property of speex to attempt to play the buffer even if it's obviously incomplete, so more chunks have to be requested before that happens 00.03.38 Part keypin 00.03.46 # I added 6 lines to request the chunks when the buffer nears it's end, i.e. before decoding the last frame (I calculated the largest possible speex frame for this) 00.04.23 # see http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/728/1/apps/voice_thread.c 00.05.13 # a speex frame _always_ consists of 20 ms :> 00.05.24 # looks good 00.05.53 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.06.06 Join dfkt [0] (OxO29A@unaffiliated/dfkt) 00.07.39 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0/20140116125114]) 00.08.45 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.12.09 Join 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Stack needs to be 8byte alligned so pushing single register is not possible without braking convention. 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Are you saying such questions are unacceptable in the forum? 13.30.31 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 13.36.52 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 13.41.54 # chrisjj: no, but then you open bug reports with just a link to the forum thread. this is not acceptable 13.42.25 # also don't expect bugs to be fixed if you talk about them in the forums only 13.47.55 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 13.48.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.50.13 # wodz: i replied to your mail 13.55.32 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 13.56.53 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 14.05.27 # kugel: OK, so since such questions are acceptable (to you) in the forum, I don't see the good reason for the topic to be locked. 14.06.05 # I don't expect bugs to be fixed if I talk about them in the forum only. Actually I don't expect bugs to be fixed at all. 14.07.08 # I merely hope. And if forum info from other users suggest an issue is a bug, I'll report it in FlySpray. 14.19.08 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 14.30.27 # chrisjj: in this case another dev recognized its a bug, and has a bug report for it. from this point it is no longer valuable to talk about it in the forum and the focus should move to the tracker to get this fixed 14.31.59 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14.32.05 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 14.48.07 Nick DormantBrain is now known as SuperBrainAK (~andy@2001:470:8:a61::5f92:59a1) 15.14.26 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 15.22.16 Quit derf (Read error: Operation timed out) 15.22.31 Join derf [0] (~derf@fuzzyneural.net) 15.29.18 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 15.34.48 Join chrisjj_ [0] (561bb732@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.27.183.50) 15.43.35 Nick SuperBrainAK is now known as DormantBrain (~andy@2001:470:8:a61::5f92:59a1) 15.48.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.49.34 # hm, the workaround to put stuff on the same line as %V* seems not uncommon 15.51.36 # ha! 15.51.45 # where did you see it? 15.55.40 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@90-230-142-55-no41.tbcn.telia.com) 15.58.32 # 3_eyed_jack theme for sansa clipzip 16.00.43 # I knew I couldn't be the only one 16.04.03 Part LinusN 16.07.54 Quit Rower (Quit: Hmmm...) 16.08.41 # copper: can you try a fix for FS#12892? 16.08.42 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12892 3backdrop doesn't load when selecting a new theme that was just copied via USB (bugs, unconfirmed) 16.09.56 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 16.13.12 # kugel: hold on, first I'll try to reproduce it, to make sure after that, that the fix really works properly 16.13.24 # ugh, what an ugly sentence 16.15.41 Quit kugel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.15.41 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 16.16.23 Quit Zagor (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 16.18.10 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@80.239.169.203) 16.18.10 Quit Zagor (Changing host) 16.18.10 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 16.18.17 # copper: http://pastie.org/8657317 <- seems to work for me 16.18.34 # fixes FS#12942 too 16.18.35 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12942 3Sometimes "backdrop: -" in theme cfg file doesn't clear backdrop. (bugs, unconfirmed) 16.18.52 # I can't reproduce it on the Fuze+ 16.25.15 # I can reproduce it in the iPod Video sim when loading xplorr, and then loading another theme 16.25.21 # I'm gonna try your patch now 16.29.17 # uuugh 16.30.13 # kugel_: https://outpost.fr/tmp/Jhi.png 16.31.03 # this happens only with the patch, not without? 16.31.19 # yes 16.31.35 # without the patch, it's a slightly different effect 16.32.28 # I'm going to take another screenshot, without the patch 16.33.05 # copper: try this http://pastie.org/8657365 16.36.35 # without the patch: https://outpost.fr/tmp/MyA.png 16.37.50 # kugel_: you can easily reproduce it yourself with the iPod Video sim, the xplorr theme and another theme 16.37.58 # not that I mind testing for you 16.38.19 # i tested it on the fuzev2 16.38.53 # I'm rebuilding with you latest patch 16.38.56 # your* 16.39.54 Quit linuxguy3 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 16.39.55 # aha! 16.40.01 # looks like we have a winner 16.41.14 # yup 16.49.43 Join linuxguy3 [0] (~timj@24-148-61-208.c3-0.lem-ubr1.chi-lem.il.cable.rcn.com) 17.01.17 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 17.01.21 Quit fragilematter (Quit: Leaving.) 17.03.06 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@2602:306:bce1:8c20:b4f5:e0d:8450:fcf4) 17.04.00 Join Rower [0] (~husvagn@90-230-142-55-no41.tbcn.telia.com) 17.04.08 Quit Strife89 (Client Quit) 17.13.54 # if something shows up under the code changes on the homepage. does that mean the build is done? or are the code changes put there before the build starts? 17.24.03 # amayer: AFAICT no. "Code changes" is inaccurate. What it actually lists are source changes. And though the code is supposed to be rebuilt after every source change, it isn't. E.g. currently the Sansa Fuze build on http://build.rockbox.org/ is about a day behind. 17.25.31 # oh... now I see the hashes listed. 17.26.53 # the hashes are in the code changes section and they are also listed on the build page. chrisjj: thanks 17.27.24 # kugel_: there is red for monochrome screen targets 17.29.30 # chrisjj_: why do you say that the Fuze build is a day behind? It's not for me 17.31.10 # Because of the date on the build e.g. in rockbox-info.txt. What date do you see? 17.32.40 # 140122 17.35.17 # maybe the Clips (except the Zip) are a "day behind" but that's just because the build didn't succeed after the last code change and so it has the date of the time it last built correctly (which was yesterday after the second to last check in) 17.45.59 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 17.46.58 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17.48.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.49.12 # "140122". Strange. The date here is 140121. 17.50.59 # 140122 for me too 17.52.29 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-207-223-0.dynamic.chello.pl) 17.53.43 # kugel_: you should be awarded a 'bug killer medal' 17.56.23 Quit mortalis (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 17.57.05 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 17.58.44 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 18.05.57 Quit Raptors (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 18.07.32 Quit Rower (Quit: Hmmm...) 18.09.06 # Something/one refreshed the build at 16:35 - nine minutes after I wrote "a day behind". 18.10.34 Join Raptors [0] (~whoneedsa@216-58-33-234.cpe.distributel.net) 18.12.49 Join Rower [0] (~husvagn@90-230-142-55-no41.tbcn.telia.com) 18.13.32 Quit Rower (Client Quit) 18.13.56 # wodz: ping 18.18.25 Quit Raptors (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.21.08 # kugel_: pong 18.21.34 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 18.21.55 # wodz: what is rk27generic for a target? is it a group of players? 18.22.47 # kugel: It is for reference design. Most of cheap rk27xx generics use plain reference design 18.24.54 Join Raptors [0] (~whoneedsa@216-58-33-234.cpe.distributel.net) 18.25.46 # kugel: I'd love to call it Ramos RM970 which I believe is plain reference design BUT I don't have the device to actually check so I decided to name the target like it is now 18.27.18 # wodz: but they aren't all exactly the same are they? 18.27.59 # hm, this looks like a touchscreen player? 18.29.26 # kugel: I bought 2 noname generics (mine and the one I sent to pamaury) and both work with single build. On the forum there was report of generic build working on some other kirsch or something player. On youtube you can find videos with some RITMIX brand device running generic build 18.30.22 # kugel: If you refer to this 'upset' guy - his player seems to be touchscreen 18.31.23 # I meant the Ramos RM970 18.31.33 # RM970 is not touchscreen 18.33.04 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.214.128) 18.33.18 # are they all 3" and have the same buttons? 18.33.28 # yeah 18.35.07 # I think there are two different types of lcd controllers used though 18.35.54 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.37.08 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 18.50.24 Quit rixon (Remote host closed the connection) 18.57.41 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 19.08.50 Join rixon [0] (~quassel@76.92.220.8) 19.09.11 Quit chrisjj (Quit: Page closed) 19.16.50 Quit krnlyng (Quit: huiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii) 19.16.56 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 19.19.37 Join krnlyng [0] (~liar@83.175.90.24) 19.25.41 Quit pretty_function (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.48.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.50.59 Quit Zambezi (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.07.00 Join Zambezi [0] (Zulu@bnc.fran.hostbay.nu) 20.21.14 Quit scorche|sh (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.38.33 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@2602:306:bce1:8c20:b4f5:e0d:8450:fcf4) 21.06.21 Quit y4n (Quit: only amiga makes it possible) 21.19.41 Quit dfkt_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.19.59 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 21.28.48 # right then...since it seems that my server has crashed, I am just going to use this time to apply an upgrade (migrate to another host) while it is down... 21.29.30 # As long as you don't beat it while it's down... ;) 21.29.44 # generally, you folk are the ones that beat it 21.30.03 # so, this migration comes with double the RAM (3GB now) 21.30.57 # though, when the time comes for the yearly renewal (May), I very likely will be downgrading the system, as it is getting too expensive for all the stuff going on in my life right now... 21.31.19 # we shouldnt need all that power/ram/storage/bandwidth anyway 21.31.53 # scorche: perhaps the fund can pay for it (partly)? 21.31.54 # We should be able to fix the ban list handling before then 21.33.55 # kugel: well, i have paid for it myself out of pocket for 7 years - i dont see the sense in asking for money now when activity (and likely fundage) is at what is likely the lowest it has been 21.34.25 # but your situation isnt the same either right 21.34.32 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 21.34.39 # well you decide, I was just suggesting 21.34.40 # also, i dont think we need all what I am paying for, so i would still think it is fine to downgrade 21.37.39 # is there even still really a "fund" 21.37.47 # yea 21.37.47 # i guess the swedes arent in here 21.38.06 # i talked to zagor very recently, the fund is still in existence 21.48.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.49.11 # I read about a tool called iwyu (include what you use) today, curious if it helps rockbox 21.58.29 # <[Saint]> chrisjj_: in the nicest possible way, please try to avoid answering questions based on what you _think_ happens, if you don;t know. 21.58.40 # <[Saint]> SOmeone might confuse you for knowing what you're talking about. 22.10.46 Quit soap_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 22.11.37 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 22.11.42 # the source changes but the code doesn't... right... 22.14.07 Join soap_ [0] (~soap@cpe-174-102-103-175.woh.res.rr.com) 22.14.20 Quit soap_ (Changing host) 22.14.20 Join soap_ [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 22.37.51 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 22.37.56 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 22.41.10 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 22.42.43 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g226069184.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.44.17 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.04.48 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Leaving) 23.05.30 # AlexP: Correct. "These builds are provided fresh after every source code change. If builds are not currently showing, wait 5-10 minutes and then refresh the page." is not happening. 23.06.11 # the code is the source 23.06.15 # It is the source code 23.06.41 # The builds may not being updated (I haven't looked and it seems unlikely), but that isn't the same thing 23.06.49 # Semantics aside, the building not working as declared. 23.07.36 # yes it is 23.07.57 # E.g. http://git.rockbox.org/?p=rockbox.git;a=commit;h=6cb1176 Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:58:58 was not showing on Sansa Fuze 20 mins later. 23.08.19 Quit bzed (Remote host closed the connection) 23.08.19 # Sans Fuze latest build was a day earlier. 23.08.25 Join bzed [0] (~bzed@devel.recluse.de) 23.08.56 # Well I can't say anything about that as I didn't look 23.09.09 # But unless a build failed for a particular target, they show up 23.09.15 # As they all are now for instance 23.09.48 # AlexP: "nless a build failed for a particular target" Well then it failed. 23.09.55 # right 23.10.22 # "all are now for instance" You've checked them all? 23.10.50 # I've looked that they all built except the player in the build table, and on the current build page they are showing the current revision, yes 23.11.14 # er, all except recorder 23.12.13 # See what I mean? 23.12.17 # * AlexP_ waits patiently for chrisjj_ to find something else pointless to be pedantic about 23.12.22 # No, haven't the faintest 23.12.44 # Thanks for the clarification. 23.14.37 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@80.215.132.175) 23.16.17 # <[Saint]> Is it _that_ hard to check the build table? 23.16.20 # <[Saint]> Like, really? 23.17.15 Join Strife89|AndChat [0] (~Strife89@2602:306:bce1:8c20:4eaa:16ff:fe25:d19a) 23.17.20 # [Saint]: It's less likely to irritate everyone, so yes 23.17.40 # <[Saint]> That does seem to be the case. 23.19.20 # <[Saint]> I'm having a hard time seeing why the discussion continued. You very clearly informed him of the reasons why a build may not be current in the build table. 23.19.43 # [Saint]: Probably semantics, which are a cardinal sin except for when chrisjj_ makes a mistake 23.20.41 # * AlexP_ will stop now. irritation is making me rude 23.21.03 # <[Saint]> I find it difficult myself. 23.25.08 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 23.35.53 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.40.13 # <[Saint]> chrisjj_: Now you're just being plain annoying. 23.40.23 # <[Saint]> You were told exactly why it works the way it does. 23.40.34 # <[Saint]> ...and then you go on the forums and cry about it? 23.40.51 # <[Saint]> Nice one. 23.42.06 # <[Saint]> The builds *are* provided fresh, after every source change (or grouping thereof). 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