--- Log for 14.02.114 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 19 hours and 57 minutes ago 00.02.16 # [Saint]: i was hoping to get the latest version of the shutdown in menu patch, but too late now :p 00.02.46 # <[Saint]> Oh? 00.02.55 # <[Saint]> Did you just make your own? 00.03.38 # no, i'm at work so cant do anything about it now :) 00.03.46 # i made a plugin last night to edit the order 00.03.54 # (icase you didtn see the commit)( 00.04.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.06.27 # <[Saint]> Ah. OK. Right, well. I'll still put it up on gerrit anyway. I just forgot about it. 00.06.44 # <[Saint]> Do you want me to hijack your original task, or create another? 00.08.20 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 00.11.00 # hijack my one 00.17.11 # the UI is a bit painful on that plugin... I'll hopefully have time over the weekend to fix it (doubtful though) 00.17.29 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140210161136]) 00.37.40 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@213.37.219.11.dyn.user.ono.com) 00.48.13 # <[Saint]> JdGordon: done (added g156) 00.48.15 # 3Gerrit review #156 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/156 : 3root menu: add the shutdown option to all builds by Hayden Pearce 00.48.31 # <[Saint]> Awwww, shit. I messed up preserving the author. Bah. 00.48.45 # doesnt matter :) 00.48.54 # feel like fixing the plugin to handle the !? 00.48.57 # <[Saint]> I guess I *completely* hijacked it. Sorry. :-( 00.49.14 # <[Saint]> Oh, crap. Right Yep. 00.49.41 # it is really horrible code, so if you get scraaed don 00.49.46 # t worry :) 00.49.50 # ffs i hate this keyboard 00.50.24 # <[Saint]> Well, I basically just need to (carefully) find and replace ? w/ !. Not too difficult. 00.50.58 # just search for all the strcmp(menu_item[ ...'s 00.51.08 # * [Saint] nods 00.51.08 # i was going to split that out into another function 00.51.29 # also shows how out of practice I am, copying the strings around everywhere is lame 00.52.25 # <[Saint]> Oh...wait. What? Hmmmm. 00.52.26 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Leaving) 00.52.34 # <[Saint]> "?" only appears in a single line. 00.53.42 # you need to handle where it compares againt menu_table[*].string 00.53.56 # <[Saint]> Ugh. 00.54.31 # menu_table[index].string[0] == '!' ? &menu_table[index].string[1] : menu_table[index].string 00.59.32 # <[Saint]> Yeah. Nah. Maybe when I wake up a bit more. I just screwed that up spectacularly. 00.59.39 # :) 00.59.50 # also the whole UI is crap 00.59.57 # so i might rewriet the whole thing on sunday 00.59.58 # * [Saint] seems to have a knack for making syntactically correct bullshit 01.00.02 # <[Saint]> It really is an art 01.00.35 Quit ender` (Quit: I like work: it fascinates me. I can sit and look at it for hours. -- Jerome K. 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Which device are you on? 13.41.47 # sansa clip zip 13.42.16 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9EE93D3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.43.13 # I'm not sure the controls then but try settings->database->select directories to scan and auto update (two different options 13.43.31 # thanks 13.45.21 Quit fs-bluebot_ (Quit: connection lost?) 13.45.37 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@f053155105.adsl.alicedsl.de) 13.46.30 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 13.49.48 Quit fs-bluebot (Client Quit) 13.50.02 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@f053155105.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.00.20 Quit ikeboy (Quit: Leaving) 14.05.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.25.17 Join randomuser_ [0] (59663ae3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.102.58.227) 14.26.21 # my new Clip+ theme: https://outpost.fr/viewimg/xfd.png 14.26.30 # https://outpost.fr/rockbox/ClipGym-2014-02-14.zip 14.28.46 Join tertu3 [0] (~tertu@143.44.70.199) 14.29.28 # hi everybody, anybody using version 3.13 on Iriver h120 & booting from rom? hangs; same happens with version 3.12, 3.11.2 seems latest to work; seems related to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12769?string=iriver&project=1&type[0]=2&sev[0]=&pri[0]=&due[0]=&reported[0]=&cat[0]=&status[0]=open&percent[0]=&opened=&dev=&closed=&duedatefrom=&duedateto=&changedfrom=&changedto=&openedfrom=&openedto=&closedfrom=&closedto= 14.30.35 # also, thanks every developer for awesome work! 14.32.58 # difference between the link and my behavior here is I can reproduce it on every boot, booting from ram & hd works as expected; also, I'm using cf2ide + cf card instead of default hdd 15.11.53 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 15.13.15 # randomuser_: gevaerts tested recently various combinations and except known dircache bug everything worked as expected. 15.14.28 # randomuser_: try disabling dircache and see if that makes a difference 15.15.00 # If you're on CF, not having dircache should not be *too* terrible 15.17.09 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 15.23.15 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 15.39.47 Quit randomuser_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15.42.14 Quit Cultist (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 15.52.15 Join kuldeepdhaka [0] (~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka) 16.00.55 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Leaving) 16.04.44 Quit pedro_angelo (Quit: The outcome of the Final Experiment has now been placed upon your hands.) 16.05.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.17.09 Join tyllmoritz [0] (~robin@141.70.11.4) 16.18.04 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 16.25.01 Join Cultist [0] (~CultOfThe@c-67-186-111-33.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 16.26.01 Quit rela (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.35.15 Quit tyllmoritz (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 16.37.01 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 16.40.36 Quit Ooga_Booga (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 16.44.19 # http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=2064&target=sansaclipplus 16.45.07 # hi 16.50.44 Quit fragilematter (Quit: Leaving.) 16.50.56 # rela: hello 17.00.41 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 17.07.24 Join tyllmoritz [0] (~robin@141.70.11.4) 17.09.06 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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With a rotating disk, that's *very* noticeable 18.46.58 Join cela [0] (5771aa66@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.113.170.102) 18.47.14 # With flash, it shouldn't have too much of an impact 18.48.16 # anybody know if the bootloader is fixed for CreativeZENXFi black screen issue? 18.48.21 # ok, seems like no problem, even my folder structure & file count is quite flat/low 18.48.56 Quit zoktar (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.51.08 Join zoktar [0] (~zoktar@unaffiliated/zoktar) 18.53.31 Quit randomuser_ (Quit: Page closed) 18.55.50 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-178-161.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 18.58.23 # [Saint]: FYI .opus is ambiguous; there is a draft RFC suggesting that ogg/opus should have a .opus extension http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-terriberry-oggopus-01#section-8 18.58.58 Quit tertu3 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 18.59.08 # [Saint]: and in fact the test-files you point me at are in an ogg container 19.01.02 Quit cela (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.01.58 Join [Saint_] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 19.02.49 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 19.03.03 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 19.17.22 Join unitraxx [0] (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/unitraxx) 19.20.42 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 19.20.42 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 19.20.42 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.26.22 Quit kuldeepdhaka (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.42.22 Quit Rower (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 19.42.40 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@90-230-142-55-no41.tbcn.telia.com) 19.45.32 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 20.01.45 Join tertu3 [0] (~tertu@143.44.70.199) 20.05.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.20.14 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 20.29.53 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.140.62.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 20.36.26 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 20.44.43 Join saratoga [0] (123e11e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.17.224) 20.45.06 # we require that Opus be in an ogg container, but it should not be named .ogg as that is reserved for vorbis files 20.45.55 # what about .oga? 20.46.12 # I'm unclear on the standard about that 20.47.03 # it seems to me that Ogg as a generic container format pretty much failed 20.47.15 # unlike Matroska 20.49.03 # Ogg tools don't even know about new codecs like Opus without modification 20.51.10 # i.e. they can't read basic information from the headers, and they can't read Vorbis Comments 20.51.32 # (in Opus files) 20.54.28 Quit fs-bluebot (Quit: connection lost?) 20.54.44 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@f053155105.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.55.47 Quit fs-bluebot (Remote host closed the connection) 20.56.54 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@f053155105.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.59.44 Nick [Saint_] is now known as [Saint] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 21.02.43 Quit rela (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.05.55 # i think we decided not to add oga a while back because it was ambiguous what formats could be in it 21.06.01 # check the logs from 2007 or so 21.06.48 Quit Rower (Quit: Hmmm...) 21.07.07 # i noticed that new clip sport has WMA but not WMA DRM support 21.07.19 # not MTP either 21.07.36 # i wonder if that means they stopped using the MS package 21.14.04 # are there still shops selling DRM'd WMA? 21.14.14 # I thought they all close up shop a while ago 21.14.18 # closed* 21.22.10 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.00.47 Part jasom 22.02.02 Quit y4n (Quit: only amiga makes it possible) 22.02.44 Nick DormantBrain is now known as SuperBrainAK (~andy@2001:470:8:a61::5f92:59a1) 22.05.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.06.10 Join ikeboy [0] (~ikeboy@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 22.13.43 Part unitraxx 22.31.02 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p4FF89BDA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.35.54 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 22.38.26 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-75-151-160.dynamic.chello.pl) 22.38.32 # saratoga: ping 22.39.58 # gevaerts: So whats this dircache bug is all about actually? There were quite a few reports about it and the solution isn't obvious nor documented AFAIK 22.40.51 # wodz: the h1x0 does some magic with eeprom to speed up some dircache things. That's the bit that has issues 22.40.54 # That's *all* I know 22.41.17 # wodz:pong 22.41.18 # So it's not a *general* dircache bug 22.41.37 # gevaerts: yes I mean generic h1x0 bug 22.41.44 # * gevaerts nods 22.43.15 # saratoga: You said once you designed mips(ish) core in vhdl. Do you feel like asking a few questions about mips exceptions/interrupts handling? 22.43.34 # ah no, i don't know anything about that 22.43.41 # bammer 22.43.50 # i just did the decode, registers, and ALU 22.44.11 # why MIPS? 22.44.42 # saratoga: I am working on iriver e150 port which is mips 4kec core 22.44.57 # ah interesting choice 22.45.38 # and this is one of the 'historically important' architectures I don't know much about 22.46.16 # gevaerts: we should at least document the issue in release notes or something like this 22.51.30 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 22.52.34 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@f053155105.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.05.12 Quit ikeboy (Quit: Leaving) 23.10.27 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 23.13.59 Nick Guest54623 is now known as olspookishmagus (~pookie@snf-137798.vm.okeanos.grnet.gr) 23.27.31 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 23.27.42 # [Saint]: it's not possible to change the album art size depending on the playback status (play or pause) right? 23.28.04 # <[Saint]> sadly, no. 23.30.35 # <[Saint]> That would require a preload system for %Cl, similar to say, viewports or images, with identifiers. Which in itself requires (what I'm told are non-trivial) changes to the way album art is handled. 23.31.02 Join bulldog [0] (bulldog@levk-4db490b2.pool.mediaWays.net) 23.32.18 # <[Saint]> But, it would indeed be nice to do %Cl(small,x,y,w,h); %?C(small) or whatever, indeed. 23.33.00 # it would be a great addition to many themes. 23.33.12 # especially on square screens 23.35.29 # indeed 23.39.39 Quit cmhobbs (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)