--- Log for 02.03.114 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 16 days and 20 hours ago 00.12.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.33.33 Quit ender` (Quit: Religion is like a blind man looking in a black room for a black cat that isn't there and finding it! -- Oscar Wilde) 00.57.34 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 01.19.13 Join treaki__ [0] (8f91f153bb@p4FDF6188.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.21.52 Quit treaki_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01.28.13 Join uberlaggydarwin [0] (~brint@ppp118-210-96-228.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net) 01.29.59 # What's the best way that I could contribute to the Rockbox project? 01.30.38 # I have been using Rockbox for a few years but thought I should help out? 01.30.55 # My question is what's the best way to jump in? 01.32.23 # I have experience with Android (and the Linux kernel) and several embedded systems but I'd like to help out 01.35.10 # Awesome. you guys seem to use gerrit :) 01.44.21 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 01.51.32 Ctcp Ping on #rockbox from jhMikeS!~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS 02.12.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.13.58 # Any developers online? 02.15.41 # <[Saint]> In a nutshell: checkout our source; familiarize; find something that annoys you; then fix it - colaborating with the project via gerrit 02.16.00 # hmm. similar to CM :) 02.16.10 # Everything annoys me and that's why I'm still around 02.16.17 # <[Saint]> s/CM/most FOSS projects/. 02.16.40 # I just compare it so CM as I am generally involved with that the most. 02.17.35 # hmm. time to clone 02.18.00 # <[Saint]> http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingGit 02.18.25 # <[Saint]> (has the gerrit/sandbox info) 02.19.00 # yep. I found that link. thanks for all the help guys. 02.19.11 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.31.22 Join Cultist [0] (~CultOfThe@c-67-186-111-33.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 02.31.36 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 02.36.01 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.56.43 Quit dexpid (Quit: Leaving.) 03.24.06 Join the-kyle1 [0] (~kyle@cpe-098-026-014-050.nc.res.rr.com) 03.24.41 Quit the-kyle (Killed (dickson.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))) 03.24.41 Nick the-kyle1 is now known as the-kyle (~kyle@cpe-098-026-014-050.nc.res.rr.com) 03.27.42 Quit the-kyle (Client Quit) 03.27.55 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@cpe-098-026-014-050.nc.res.rr.com) 03.28.31 Quit the-kyle (Client Quit) 03.30.29 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@kyle.tk) 04.12.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.33.49 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 04.35.16 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 04.39.45 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.39.46 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.39.46 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.39.46 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.39.48 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.39.49 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.57.07 Quit skyburner (Read error: Operation timed out) 04.59.48 Join skyburner [0] (skyburner@p3E9C3E1D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 05.12.14 Join saratoga [0] (123e1c2e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.28.46) 05.17.41 Quit uberlaggydarwin (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.55.43 Join aimless1 [0] (M8R-ocx3u7@netblock-68-183-186-31.dslextreme.com) 05.57.24 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 05.57.38 Join [7] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 06.12.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.46.40 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 07.02.05 Quit dfkt (Disconnected by services) 07.02.06 Join dfkt_ [0] (OxO29A@unaffiliated/dfkt) 07.24.52 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 07.26.23 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 07.27.28 # I want to give a big hug to whoever decided that recording should be one of the options for "wake-up" alarm :D 07.27.36 # sneaky sneaky 07.58.35 Join phinxy [0] (d9d2bc75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.210.188.117) 07.59.06 # Hello ive been using rockbox for years on my 6G without problems. started playing gameboy color games recently, lots of fun 07.59.36 # its there a way to have external input (like a controller)? 08.00.29 # External docks usually have keys on them so it shouldnt be impossible, right? 08.11.20 Join phinxy_ [0] (d9d2bc75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.210.188.117) 08.12.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.12.55 Quit phinxy_ (Changing host) 08.12.55 Join phinxy_ [0] (d9d2bc75@unaffiliated/phinxy) 08.12.55 Quit phinxy_ (Changing host) 08.12.55 Join phinxy_ [0] (d9d2bc75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.210.188.117) 08.13.08 Nick phinxy is now known as Guest13450 (d9d2bc75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.210.188.117) 08.14.23 Quit Guest13450 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 08.16.12 # <[Saint]> phinxy_: not impossible no, but seeing as IAP is disabled on this target, highly improbable. 08.19.10 # <[Saint]> you can read that as "your dock may not/probably wont work at all" 08.20.23 # okay. guess i gotta wait for 6G support ;) 08.23.44 # <[Saint]> At present, the best person to do that work is you. 08.24.17 # <[Saint]> No one active has been remotely interested in this port for an age. 08.25.17 # <[Saint]> Well...lets put it this way. If anyone active is interested, they're not acting on it. 08.26.18 # <[Saint]> The port has been in the same mostly-functional state for ages now. The lack of any officially supported installation method likely contributes to this. 08.38.56 # thats a little sad. ive been seing updates regularly but it might just be the main rockbox image updates 08.40.08 # <[Saint]> A lot of Rockbox is target agnostic. 08.42.40 # <[Saint]> In defense of the installation automation, as you know, the install is rather convoluted. Its difficult to automate this in a "just works" fashion. 08.42.56 # <[Saint]> (and impossible to automate completely) 08.44.11 # <[Saint]> It needs a manual and an (at least semi-automated) install method before it could be promoted. 08.44.37 # <[Saint]> it doesn't have the former yet due to lack of the latter. 08.45.42 # <[Saint]> (though the manual is literally just a case of adding some exceptions to the existing iPod Video manual as the two are largely functionally identical) 08.47.26 Join dexpid [0] (~dexpid@cpe-184-59-114-126.cinci.res.rr.com) 09.22.02 Quit E1NS (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 09.33.08 Quit phinxy_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 09.53.30 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 09.57.30 Join ungali [0] (~ungali@unaffiliated/ungali) 10.04.15 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-178-161.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 10.06.59 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (uid20107@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qwvtlehyuuklissg) 10.12.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.19.17 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 10.26.33 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.27.02 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 10.40.21 Quit [7] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.46.47 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 10.50.37 Join [7] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 10.54.43 Quit teythoon (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 10.56.09 Join teythoon [0] (~teythoon@mail.jade-hamburg.de) 10.56.41 Quit [7] (Remote host closed the connection) 11.11.05 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 11.46.05 Quit pamaury (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 11.46.14 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.49.46 Quit pamaury (Client Quit) 11.50.11 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 11.50.25 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.53.57 Quit pamaury (Client Quit) 11.54.36 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.56.19 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 11.56.19 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 11.56.19 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 12.12.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.44.27 Join ikeboy [0] (~ikeboy@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 12.50.27 Part aimless1 12.57.12 Quit pystar89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.14.14 Quit pamaury (Read error: Operation timed out) 13.15.47 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 13.29.49 Quit pamaury (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 13.29.58 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 13.33.59 Quit pamaury (Client Quit) 13.34.07 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 14.13.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.20.01 Quit ikeboy (Quit: Leaving) 14.28.56 Join ikeboy [0] (~ikeboy@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 14.53.00 Quit ikeboy (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 14.57.43 Join pystar89 [0] (~pystar89@ip-178-200-0-106.unitymediagroup.de) 16.02.51 Quit rela (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.13.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.32.36 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 17.08.45 Quit the-kyle (Quit: Leaving.) 17.44.19 # hmm. Has there been any discussion about DevCon lately? If we want to have one it might be a good idea to look for a date soonish. 17.47.27 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9EE9EE6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.13.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.49.22 Join Lotmom [0] (4c411437@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.65.20.55) 18.49.27 # Hello 18.49.40 Quit teythoon (Read error: Operation timed out) 18.49.55 # Im having issues uploading my theme 18.50.08 # What sort of issues? 18.50.17 # its failing the wps check 18.51.25 Join teythoon [0] (~teythoon@mail.jade-hamburg.de) 18.52.04 # What does it say? Normally that means there's something wrong with the wps... 18.52.31 # Couldn't open .rockbox/wps/Lotheme/bar.bmp over and over with different files each time 18.52.45 # ohh 18.52.50 # i think i know the issue 18.52.51 # Are those files present in your zip file? 18.53.18 # they are 18.54.05 # any ideas? 18.54.28 # Can you upload the zip file somewhere else so we can have a look? 18.55.34 # ok 18.56.22 # http://www.mediafire.com/download/5irel8di1454jpk/Theme.zip 18.58.45 # Ah, I think I see the issue 18.59.51 # Although rockbox itself (usually) uses a FAT filesystem which is case insensitive, the theme site runs on linux which is case sensitive 19.00.18 # And e.g. bar.bmp is called Bar.bmp in the zip file 19.01.39 # So either change the wps to say Bar, or rename the file (although I have *no* idea how easy that is for you) 19.03.39 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 19.05.33 Quit rela (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.06.40 Quit onder` (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.13.20 # thank you~ 19.15.57 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@kyle.tk) 19.21.46 Quit Lotmom (Quit: Page closed) 19.34.59 Quit dexpid (Quit: Leaving.) 19.51.42 Join dexpid [0] (~dexpid@cpe-184-59-114-126.cinci.res.rr.com) 20.08.16 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.13.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.27.45 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.29.15 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 20.31.06 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@90-230-142-55-no41.tbcn.telia.com) 20.45.13 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 21.05.45 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 21.07.59 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 21.08.30 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 21.11.02 Quit y4n (Quit: 6,000,000 ways to die — choose one.) 21.17.16 Quit pystar89 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21.21.22 Join blah [0] (~4f61dfbb@www.haxx.se) 21.21.23 Join pystar89 [0] (~pystar89@ip-178-200-0-106.unitymediagroup.de) 21.21.23 # hey 21.21.36 # great there are people here 21.23.01 # anybody here able to help rockbox a 7g 160gb ipod?? i've gotten so far with installation but it doesn't boot no matter how many times i try 21.25.07 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@c-68-43-2-35.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 21.25.07 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 21.25.07 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 21.29.23 # yo any chance of some advice on here? 21.30.09 Quit blah (Quit: CGI:IRC) 21.30.32 # ... 21.32.51 Nick DormantBrain is now known as SuperBrainAK (~andy@2001:470:8:a61::5f92:59a1) 21.46.39 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-193-180.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 21.48.06 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 21.59.12 Quit rela (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.06.51 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-75-151-160.dynamic.chello.pl) 22.07.37 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 22.08.10 # Any news about clip sport (or how it is officially called)? The weird memory banks organization is workable since I think this is at least 4kec core which has full fledge MMU. 22.12.12 # wodz: I think we still need to know the exact amount of RAM in it, some think there might be more memory than we think 22.12.42 # because just a few 100kB is not enough 22.13.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.13.17 # agreed, thats 22.13.20 # grr 22.13.29 # that was hidden part of my question 22.14.37 # pamaury: Any progress with yp-cp3? 22.15.22 # no, I had zero time recently, this week-end I was away, maybe this week but I'm not even sure I'll have time for anything 22.15.59 # recently I only had time to finish some patches and commit them before they rot completely 22.16.26 Join _jhMikeS_ [0] (~jethead71@c-68-43-2-35.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 22.16.27 Quit _jhMikeS_ (Changing host) 22.16.27 Join _jhMikeS_ [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 22.16.27 Quit jhMikeS (Disconnected by services) 22.16.28 Nick _jhMikeS_ is now known as jhMikeS (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 22.17.40 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 22.17.53 # yeah, I understand that. The last week I had to devote my (almost) whole time to family. The only rb positive part is that I had time to read carefully 'See mips run 2nd' completely. This is truly brilliant book. 22.18.25 # I need to check but I think jz init code has quite a few bugs :-) 22.18.46 # what is this book ? 22.19.07 # its about MIPS but in many ways it has much more general context 22.19.45 # I'd say the risc way with mips as an pioneering example 22.20.55 # sounds interesting, i'll try to have a look 22.21.25 # I think bertrik told me he saw jtag pins on the sport, would that help figuring out what is inside ? 22.22.12 # let's start a clip sport wiki page and document all this stuff 22.22.51 # 22.23.44 # mips uses fairly standarized EJTAG debug port. It is well documented. 4kec core can have ejtag so it is possible to explore quite a few things 22.24.18 Quit ungali (Remote host closed the connection) 22.24.28 # <[Saint]> I figure there must be more memorythan we can see. 22.24.59 # <[Saint]> Perhaps I'd believe it if there wasn't an LCD. 22.25.13 # <[Saint]> ...but the color images suggest there's more there than we think there is. 22.25.28 # *maybe* lcd can buffer whole frame in internal mem 22.25.38 # <[Saint]> Hmmmm. Good point. 22.25.59 # <[Saint]> EVen then it would be a stretch to decode vorbis with what it has. 22.26.27 # most modern lcds can buffer but still decoding such few ram seems hard 22.26.28 # look, there are s1mp3 color players which are z80 + 21xx dsp and very tiny awkward banked memory 22.27.16 # atj is famous for producing such z80+dsp hybrids for years 22.28.08 # <[Saint]> Its hard to understand the thought processes behind this device. 22.28.12 # <[Saint]> Very hard. 22.28.52 # <[Saint]> The "why", specifically. 22.29.11 # You mean atj or sansa? 22.29.24 # <[Saint]> Sansa, and the Sport. 22.30.27 # That is easy - atj offered the best performance/price ratio for specs sansa outlined. 22.30.50 # and they offered the code too 22.31.14 # sansa just had to customise the menus most probably 22.31.39 # exactly 22.32.02 # I guess better power consumption is what drove them to atj 22.32.17 # <[Saint]> Is it _that_ much better? 22.32.35 # ZincAlloy: I bet you can do much better with newer arm cores 22.32.46 # <[Saint]> Compared to theoretical devices we could invent with hardware we know they've used before. 22.32.52 # LOL, I can't do anything 22.32.57 # <[Saint]> right - yeah, exactly. 22.33.06 # <[Saint]> opp, timing. :) 22.33.13 Join ikeboy [0] (~ikeboy@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 22.33.15 # I guess it would be better, as battery life has increased considerably, no? 22.33.42 # <[Saint]> There's lots of power sipping ARM cores out there. 22.33.58 # <[Saint]> Vastly more powerful ones, too. 22.35.01 # I guess they didn't feel the need for power :) 22.36.52 # <[Saint]> Not only that, they chose dramatically less... 22.37.46 # <[Saint]> I guess ATJ showed up with a big box of SoCs destined for the crap pile or something. ;) 22.38.06 # they didn't ever do anything that needed the power, did they? 22.42.58 # <[Saint]> Not particularly. 22.43.21 # <[Saint]> The i.MX venture seemed a bit like overkill. 22.43.23 # so it makes economic sense 22.59.03 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.00.12 Quit bluebrother (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 23.00.28 # many players were sold with the imx233 chip, I don't know why they drop it and it had great battery life 23.01.20 # how much cheaper is the atj? 23.02.02 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 23.07.17 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 23.17.04 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g224237255.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.31.07 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 23.31.14 Quit ikeboy (Quit: Leaving) 23.31.53 Quit Rower (Quit: Hmmm...) 23.36.51 Join cramler [0] (~mii@77.119.132.6.wireless.dyn.drei.com) 23.36.51 Quit Guest81512 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.37.06 Join Guest80912 [0] (Slayer@c-69-143-187-144.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 23.49.01 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140224220227]) 23.53.35 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.55.44 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739)