--- Log for 19.03.114 Server: orwell.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 7 days and 1 hour ago 00.01.47 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 00.02.20 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@cl-1037.haa-01.nl.sixxs.net) 00.02.20 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 00.02.20 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 00.12.50 Join us`0gb [0] (~0gb.us@c-50-137-60-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 00.13.38 Quit ender` (Quit: "HR?" "Human Resources." "In Brussels that kind of department is referred to as the Office for Personkind Enablement. Resources sounds like something you dig out of the ground." -- Peter F. Hamilton: Great North Road) 00.26.54 Quit igitoor (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.27.30 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.28.08 Join igitoor [0] (igitur@2a00:d880:3:1::c1ca:a648) 00.30.55 Quit igitoor (Changing host) 00.30.55 Join igitoor [0] (igitur@unaffiliated/contempt) 00.33.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.38.09 Quit Rower (Quit: Hmmm...) 00.43.19 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.58.18 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 02.33.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.41.49 Join Prodicus [0] (~chatzilla@2605:a601:561:7701:587a:b90f:841b:b32e) 02.43.27 Quit pedro_angelo (Remote host closed the connection) 02.55.27 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 03.00.00 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 03.23.53 Nick DormantBrain is now known as SuperBrainAK (~andy@2001:470:8:a61::5f92:59a1) 03.31.30 # Gotta get off here, but forgot to thank everyone for the help! Thanks guys! 03.31.34 Part newhoa 03.45.29 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 03.46.33 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 03.58.46 Join leftright [0] (c5e012c8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.197.224.18.200) 04.03.56 # what is Dmitry Gamza's nick please ? 04.12.52 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@c-68-43-2-35.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 04.12.52 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 04.12.52 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 04.12.53 # Dmitry; Could you have a look at these two bugs please FS#12769FS#12590 . Many thanks. 04.12.54 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12769 3rb 3.12 - iriver H140 bootloader crash: 1st boot fails, Reset pin, 2nd boot Successful. Repeatable. (bugs, unconfirmed) 04.12.55 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12590 3Dircache breaks when flashing rombox or rockbox on h1x0 (bugs, new) 04.14.25 Quit leftright (Quit: Page closed) 04.18.31 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.18.31 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.18.34 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.18.45 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.18.46 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.18.48 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.25.11 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 04.26.57 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 04.33.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.20.12 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 05.20.27 Join [7] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.52.31 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 05.53.46 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 05.55.25 Join ungali [0] (~ungali@184.64.50.234) 05.55.25 Quit ungali (Changing host) 05.55.25 Join ungali [0] (~ungali@unaffiliated/ungali) 06.02.23 Quit Bluefoxicy (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 06.10.48 Quit Prodicus (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.31.00 # <[Saint]> Bah. 06.31.18 # <[Saint]> RaaA is getting the notification panel colors whrong. 06.31.29 # <[Saint]> *wrong, even. 06.31.45 # <[Saint]> Grey background, black text. looks awful. 06.32.15 # <[Saint]> Its bloody nice that kitkat solved the whole "no status bar" issue. 06.32.55 # <[Saint]> Immersive mode makes RaaA a *whole* lot more useful. 06.33.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.34.35 # <[Saint]> What needs to be done to get RaaA working as a proper lockscreen widget? 06.37.24 Quit mudlord (Quit: mudlord) 06.57.59 Join onder`_ [0] (~onder@dyn-dsl-to-76-75-118-5.nexicom.net) 06.59.30 Quit onder` (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 06.59.35 Nick onder`_ is now known as onder` (~onder@dyn-dsl-to-76-75-118-5.nexicom.net) 07.36.25 # <[Saint]> Why is the buffer on RaaA so tiny? 07.36.38 # <[Saint]> 2.97MB? 0_o 07.37.38 # * [Saint] wonders how much of that is audio buffer. 07.39.05 # <[Saint]> Oh, apparently all of it. 07.40.00 # <[Saint]> Odd. I thought Rockbox Info/Buffer listed total buffer available to the sstem. 07.41.28 Join fragilematter [0] (~fragilema@unaffiliated/fragilematter) 07.49.15 # I see those notification bar colours wrong with android RaaA ever since upgrading my phone to an ICS one and said so here at least twice 07.59.44 # <[Saint]> Its just popped up on a stock KitKat ROM for me. 08.00.09 # <[Saint]> Never had the issue in ICS, or a "real" (ie. non-vendor) ROM. 08.00.29 # <[Saint]> And, yes I do recall you mentioning it. 08.01.17 # <[Saint]> pixelma: Do you ever get RaaA freezing with a black screen with audio still playing after trying to go back to the application if it was backgrounded? 08.02.07 # <[Saint]> I find it happens a lot if I use the notification to jump back into the application, but it also happens if I select it from the recent apps page or just launch the app again. 08.13.32 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.33.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.36.43 # I always get that after a few tracks, couldn't find a pattern yet though. So far I noticed that (a) in this case the info in the notification bar got stuck already anyways, showing title etc. from some previous track - maybe the last one of when it was still functioning properly, and (b) after "rebooting" Rockbox, resume playback would start at a beginning of a track not somewhere in the middle 08.38.12 # oh and (c) sometimes stopping/starting with the help of the widget would help reviving the main Rockbox 08.49.32 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 08.53.10 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@80.239.169.194) 08.53.17 Quit Zagor (Changing host) 08.53.17 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.10.17 Join petur [0] (5bb7304d@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.24.06 Join Bluefoxicy [0] (~Bluefoxic@c-76-21-157-203.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 09.28.12 Nick SuperBrainAK is now known as DormantBrain (~andy@2001:470:8:a61::5f92:59a1) 09.37.19 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.01.29 # <[Saint]> pixelma: that is my symptoms exactly. 10.02.37 # <[Saint]> I'll try and see if I can reproduce this whilst watching logcat over adb to see if I can get a clue whats going on. 10.03.33 # <[Saint]> anyway, all your points, a, b, and c, reflect my experiences exactly. 10.04.21 # <[Saint]> WHich I suppose, is actually a good thing. 10.19.47 Join mortalis [0] (~kvirc@213.33.220.118) 10.20.15 Join onder`_ [0] (~onder@dyn-dsl-to-76-75-118-5.nexicom.net) 10.20.55 Quit onder` (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10.21.01 Nick onder`_ is now known as onder` (~onder@dyn-dsl-to-76-75-118-5.nexicom.net) 10.33.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.39.02 Join maruk1 [0] (~papier@titanium.v6.sdv.fr) 10.42.13 # how would I go about making new sizes of the Nimbus font? 10.42.42 # I only see BDF files for it in git, and I don't know what the source for that font is 10.45.16 # nimbus fonts are from ghostscript, iirc 10.46.57 # http://svn.ghostscript.com/ghostscript/trunk/urw-fonts/ 10.48.51 # I made the -10 and -11 by hand 10.50.47 # ugh 10.50.52 # no idea what to do with that 10.52.42 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 11.05.17 # ah, found TTFs 11.09.48 # damn it, the Nimbus fonts in ghostscript git aren't the same font 11.20.54 # meh, 19-Nimbus will have to do 11.30.01 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.36.47 Quit alucryd (Quit: Alucryd out.) 11.37.12 Join alucryd [0] (~alucryd@dou59-1-82-238-54-125.fbx.proxad.net) 11.37.12 Quit alucryd (Changing host) 11.37.12 Join alucryd [0] (~alucryd@archlinux/trusteduser/alucryd) 11.44.47 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 11.46.17 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 11.47.36 Quit bluebrother^ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.03.07 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g231123022.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.33.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.59.25 Join kuldeepdhaka [0] (~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka) 13.03.55 Join Prodicus [0] (~chatzilla@2605:a601:561:7701:713c:5179:5ac5:68e) 13.22.32 # current state of my rockbox desktop app http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/bildschirmfoto-19032014-131956.php 13.23.14 Part toehser 13.24.17 # kugel: nice! 13.27.16 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 13.40.04 Join Zagor_ [0] (~bjst@80.239.169.203) 13.40.04 Quit Zagor_ (Changing host) 13.40.04 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 13.43.46 Quit Zagor (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.33.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.36.58 Quit kuldeepdhaka (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.37.06 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 14.37.07 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 14.37.13 Join kuldeepdhaka_ [0] (~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka) 14.54.29 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9EE89C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.54.55 Join toehser [0] (~tom@Connqueror.Toms.NET) 15.07.10 Join ikeboy [0] (~ikeboy@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 15.14.47 Quit Zagor_ (Quit: Clint excited) 15.22.26 Join phinxy [0] (d9d2bc75@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.210.188.117) 15.32.46 Quit igitoor (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 15.40.02 Join igitoor [0] (igitur@2a00:d880:3:1::c1ca:a648) 15.43.32 # what windowing kit is that GUI in? 15.45.15 Quit igitoor (Changing host) 15.45.15 Join igitoor [0] (igitur@unaffiliated/contempt) 15.46.21 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-75-151-160.dynamic.chello.pl) 15.46.29 # saratoga: QT AFAIK 15.51.14 # for thous interested - I updated g#326 15.51.16 # 3Gerrit review #326 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/326 : 3ELF loader for plugins/codecs by Marcin Bukat 16.02.48 Quit Prodicus (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.04.29 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 16.13.51 Join ii_ [0] (~ii@78.24.28.186) 16.15.56 Quit mortalis (Quit: KVIrc 4.3.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) 16.24.12 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 16.26.11 Quit benedikt93 (Client Quit) 16.33.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.41.00 Quit us`0gb (Quit: http://0gb.us/) 16.47.51 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 16.59.31 Quit fragilematter (Quit: Leaving.) 16.59.57 Quit ikeboy (Quit: Leaving) 17.12.21 Quit Wardo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.20.22 # wodz: wanna try this? https://outpost.fr/rockbox/graypod.png/ 17.20.30 # https://outpost.fr/rockbox/graypod-2014-03-19.zip 17.21.43 # or anyone with a grayscale iPod and an iPod Video/Classic who could compare colors 17.22.16 # copper: cool concept 17.23.23 # yeah but I didn't quite manage to capture the monochrome LCD feel 17.23.36 # I don't have any real life referece 17.23.38 # reference 17.24.26 # and even though I didn't change colors between yesterday evening and now, it looks different because of the different ambiant light 17.25.14 # and, you might notice the totally different rendering of the colors in the sim and on an actual iPod Classic 17.25.59 # you should be able to change the foreground and background colors for the SBS in the Theme settings 17.26.41 # the problem with the WPS is that it requires a backdrop, and apparently the 1 bit backdrop doesn't use the FG and BG colors 17.27.15 # I mean I first created a 1 bit backdrop, but it showed as black on white, instead of the shades of gray of the fg and bg colors 17.27.28 # I wanted to ask kugel about it but he isn't here right now 17.27.38 # he fixed it already for icons 17.39.47 Quit petur (Quit: Page closed) 17.46.25 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 17.50.31 Nick kuldeepdhaka_ is now known as kuldeepdhaka (~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka) 17.54.09 Join tertu [0] (~quassel@143.44.65.14) 17.59.45 # AFAIK backdrop gets handled differently, not sure what effect exactly this has for foreground/background colours though but I think there is a catch to it 18.06.30 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 18.07.55 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 18.15.56 Quit kuldeepdhaka (Excess Flood) 18.17.37 Quit ii_ (Remote host closed the connection) 18.18.10 Join ii_ [0] (~ii@78.24.28.186) 18.19.58 Join kuldeepdhaka [0] (~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka) 18.21.12 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.22.30 Quit ii_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 18.23.41 Join ii_ [0] (~ii@78.24.28.186) 18.26.02 Quit ii_ (Remote host closed the connection) 18.26.35 Join ii_ [0] (~ii@78.24.28.186) 18.30.54 Quit ii_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 18.31.29 Quit kuldeepdhaka (Max SendQ exceeded) 18.32.08 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@cl-1037.haa-01.nl.sixxs.net) 18.32.08 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 18.32.08 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.32.38 Join kuldeepdhaka [0] (~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka) 18.33.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.44.12 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 18.47.30 Join ii_ [0] (~ii@78.24.28.191) 18.59.12 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 19.02.20 Quit maruk1 (Quit: Leaving.) 19.08.49 # eh, that theme is quite "clean" 19.09.00 # well, it's straight up Apple stuff 19.09.33 # Jony Ive would call me a thief, according to his recent TIME interview 19.09.37 # :-/ 19.10.55 # is that the guy who stole the Braun designs for Apple? :D 19.11.25 # lol 19.11.47 # the design I just ripped off is 13 years old 19.12.29 # the braun stuff was much older when he ripped it off 19.12.33 # surely there's a statute on limitations for that 19.13.48 # it depends. I guess it might be subject to copyright. or not. 19.13.56 # I should interview my mom, so I can design something for "dummies" 19.14.36 # gotta customize the menus 19.14.42 # leave away most options 19.14.44 # yeah 19.14.50 # I still haven't gotten into lists 19.14.59 # [Saint] scared me 19.15.58 # I wonder if I can completely redesign the Rockbox menus by removing anything a regular user wouldn't understand, and set everything else to "reasonable defaults" 19.16.17 # "Rockbox for dummies" 19.16.36 # that's on my TODO list 19.17.35 # could be interesting for manufacturers who consider using rockbox instead of brewing their own firmware 19.18.13 # I doubt it 19.18.31 # if they're interested, surely they can "dumb it down" themselves 19.18.48 # true 19.19.41 # Design is a fascinating topic 19.19.46 # apple sure is great at dumbing things down to make them accessible 19.19.55 # I would have studied it, in another life 19.20.20 # actually I would right now, if I thought I had any talent for it 19.20.22 # (which I don't) 19.21.07 # lectures on design by Jony Ive would be amazing 19.21.27 # his father did that (lectures on design) 19.22.15 # too bad I no longer know any graphics designer 19.22.21 # I'd try to get them interested in Rockbox 19.22.50 # a professionally designed default theme would be quite something 19.22.53 # yeah 19.22.57 # that would be awesome 19.23.07 # it's not easy to come up with a good one 19.23.19 # there's so much information to display (or not display), it's not as easy as it looks 19.23.22 # ^^ 19.23.25 # you beat me to it :) 19.24.04 # s/professionally/well/ 19.24.08 # Not the same thing :) 19.25.47 # it needs to be functional, uncluttered, work well on a wide range of displays.. 19.26.19 # different devices would need different themes 19.26.30 # well, variations, anyway 19.26.55 # each display has its own form factor and physical dimensions 19.27.00 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-178-161.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 19.27.13 # I find the Clip Zip to be particularly challenging 19.27.43 # if you think about it, the Clip Zip display's form factor and size are quite bad to begin with 19.27.49 # yes, square displays are a nightmare. cabbie v2 doesn't work to well with them 19.28.01 # you can't do anything with square displays 19.28.04 # unless you want to display full scrreen album art 19.28.07 # yeah 19.28.16 # which is what sandisk does 19.28.19 # that's what the nicer themes do 19.29.04 # the clip zip's display is particularly great at making cabbiev2 look bad 19.32.51 # lol 19.33.40 # it doesn't look like SanDisk is bothering too much 19.33.53 # bothers too much* 19.34.15 # their DAPs aren't even sold in ANY of the retail stores in France 19.34.52 # they sell cheap ass DAPs instead, like MPMan 19.39.21 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-75-151-160.dynamic.chello.pl) 19.39.30 # I guess they figured that the french market wasn't worth investing into 19.46.48 # or understood that everythings happens on amazon only ;) 19.47.11 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.50.16 # I see a lot of affordable stuff in the shops here. Transcend amongst other brands 19.50.16 # Intenso.. 19.54.20 # er 19.54.31 # Rockbox 3.13 is over a year old now? :-/ 19.54.38 # time flied 19.54.40 # flies 19.54.53 # yeah, we forgot to celebrate the anniversary 19.55.59 Quit kuldeepdhaka (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 19.57.31 Join kuldeepdhaka [0] (~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka) 20.06.31 # where's kugel :( 20.08.08 Quit kuldeepdhaka (Max SendQ exceeded) 20.09.34 Join kuldeepdhaka [0] (~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka) 20.12.56 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 20.17.57 Join kuldeepdhaka_ [0] (~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka) 20.19.45 Quit kuldeepdhaka (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 20.23.20 Join ikeboy [0] (~ikeboy@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 20.26.47 Quit ygrek (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.29.46 Quit kuldeepdhaka_ (Max SendQ exceeded) 20.31.02 Join kuldeepdhaka_ [0] (~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka) 20.31.12 Quit kuldeepdhaka_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.32.47 Quit tertu (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.32.55 Join tertu [0] (~quassel@143.44.65.14) 20.33.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.36.00 Join thomasjfox [0] (~thomasjfo@rockbox/developer/thomasjfox) 20.58.05 Join ii__ [0] (~ii@78.24.28.186) 21.01.56 Join mc2739_ [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 21.01.59 Quit mc2739 (Disconnected by services) 21.02.02 Nick mc2739_ is now known as mc2739 (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 21.02.23 Quit ii__ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.06.51 Quit ikeboy (Write error: Broken pipe) 21.06.51 Quit bluebrother (Write error: Broken pipe) 21.12.08 Quit ii_ (Ping timeout: 263 seconds) 21.12.18 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 21.18.06 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@213.37.219.11.dyn.user.ono.com) 21.26.00 Join ii_ [0] (~ii@78.24.28.186) 21.36.27 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 21.52.49 Quit phinxy (Quit: Page closed) 21.56.58 # http://inventikasolutions.com/demo/iPod/ 22.00.26 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@91-65-145-11-dynip.superkabel.de) 22.00.26 Quit kugel (Changing host) 22.00.26 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 22.19.49 # copper: have you tried to turn the clicker on (settings) in the demo? 22.23.53 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-237-172.mcn.bellsouth.net) 22.27.38 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 22.33.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.36.58 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p4FC75F6B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 22.37.39 Quit cmhobbs (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 22.46.38 Quit ii_ (Remote host closed the connection) 22.47.12 Join ii_ [0] (~ii@78.24.28.191) 22.50.33 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 22.51.41 Quit ii_ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 22.53.17 Join newhoa [0] (~darin@74-130-180-32.dhcp.insightbb.com) 22.55.05 Quit ender` (Quit: C++ is a modern language where your parent can't touch your privates but your friends can!) 22.57.04 # Hey everyone. I'm playing with fonts, trying to convert bdf to fnt. I'm in the dir rockbox/tools. Using convbdf gives me "convbdf: command not found" 22.58.40 # newhoa: two possibilities: (1) do you actually have a convbdf binary there?, and (2) are you running it as "convbdf" or "./convbdf"? (the current directory is *not* in your path by default) 22.59.48 # Ah, I tried ./ convbdf but not ./convbdf. Duh. Works, thanks! 22.59.59 # Good :) 23.03.28 # <[Saint]> If you try doing much more than simply "bdf -> fnt", you'll likely find out pretty quickly that many of the options have odd quirks. 23.04.47 # <[Saint]> particularly unintuitive extras are adjusting ascent/descent and glyph spacing. 23.12.32 # <[Saint]> kugel: I noticed something odd with the touchscreen cabbie. 23.13.21 # <[Saint]> The default settings turn the line selector divider thingy off (yay!), but the cabbie.cfg turns it on. 23.15.05 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 23.15.13 # right, it's off by default but enabled cabbie 23.16.00 # <[Saint]> but, cabbie *is* default... 23.16.58 Join ii_ [0] (~ii@78.24.28.186) 23.17.20 # <[Saint]> cabbie.cfg should reset the theme state to *exactly* as it appears on first load or clean .cfg. 23.17.36 # <[Saint]> otherwise it creates a "what the hell?" moment. 23.20.27 # hm yes, it should initially start with the selector 23.20.32 # separator* 23.37.35 Quit ZincAlloy (Read error: No route to host) 23.43.25 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9EE89C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.47.38 Quit ii_ (Remote host closed the connection) 23.48.16 Join ii_ [0] (~ii@78.24.28.191) 23.48.47 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.52.27 Quit ii_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.54.52 Quit thomasjfox (Quit: Konversation terminated!)