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11.00.48 # JdGordon_: about d1fd4f08 / FS#8656 11.01.09 # I hope you can remember a bit :) 11.01.32 # hang on 11.01.39 # in this commit you allocate from the plugin buffer, but for what purpose (I guess I'm blind since it seems to fix a bug) 11.02.05 # 3.5 years ago :) I remember it like it was just yesterday! 11.02.28 # I thought so! :) 11.02.40 # * JdGordon_ skips ovre the lang diff 11.03.12 # perhaps something changed in the meantime, but plugin->buffer is only used to store filenames for in-ram playlists. I would think allocating extra ram for non-in-ram playlist has little effect 11.04.49 # I'm in playlist.c:playlist_save() btw 11.05.28 # I'm looking at the diff, and yeah don't really reemember. I think it is to do with saving a modified playlist from the viewerr more han an inram playlist 11.06.29 # were you not able to save a playlist from the viewr before that perhaps? 11.06.47 # the bug report says that yes 11.07.48 # it's confusing to me 11.08.10 # only the current (dynamic) playlist can be in_ram, and the bug report is specifically about non-in_ram ones 11.10.17 # the playlist viewer buffer comes from the plugin buffer anyway 11.10.53 # but most confusing to me is that the buffer only ever holds filenames. when you allocate a new one (because the original is too small) it won't have any filenames (but garbage) in it 11.11.02 # so it's not useful for saving a playlist 11.12.01 # is it not copied across? 11.12.27 # that's not what you have written :p 11.13.16 # in playlist_save() the buffer isn't populated after plugin_get_buffer(). it's only read by get_filename() (which returns filenames from the buffer) 11.14.11 # so I'm really confused why the buffer is re-allocated at all 11.15.05 # that looks messed up :) probably never executred 11.15.30 # or at least maybe someting changed since then so it isnt anymore? :p 11.15.55 # ah hm, re-reading the bug I think it's two-fold: removing a track from the viewer for non-current playlist silently fails, and when removed from the current playlist saving fails with that splash 11.16.04 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 11.17.09 # but a new filename buffer doesn't have (well, shouldn't) an effect in this case 11.20.13 # I'm pretty sure that if will never get executed, and it works because the viewer is using the plugin buffer anyway 11.20.33 # interesting 11.21.25 # umm 11.22.19 # but if it never gets executed how comes it that the error splash is gone 11.22.43 # ? 11.23.08 # from the bug report 11.23.47 # if (is_playing) { buffer_size /= 2 } 11.24.18 # that may not be the actual thing though 11.24.31 # and that is very old code (~2004 playlist_viewer_init() ) 11.24.50 # there the playlist viewer allocates the index buffer 11.26.07 # the index buffer is not hte same as the filename buffer allocated in playlist_save(). depending on the playlist type (in_ram or not) it holds seek values or filename buffer offsets 11.26.31 # ok, i dunno, good luck :) 11.26.46 # I'm curious how the playback affects how much of the plugin buffer you can use :p 11.27.08 # it's not like another plugin_get_buffer() would give you the other half 11.29.18 # ah, right, if something is playing it uses the plugin buffer for indices, otherwise it re-uses the hardcoded in_ram playlist buffer 11.31.34 # JdGordon_: the whole buffer_size < (amount*int) check doesnt make any sense 11.33.24 # aha, the check was introduced by 0cca6caa, at this time the index filename buffer was re-purposed 11.33.53 # (i guess it was not possible to playlist_save() non-in_ram playlists) 11.34.34 # but reuse doesnt happen anymore so the check is actually obsolete 11.38.23 # haha, turns out that was my fault! 11.38.59 Quit mortalis 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We started collecting dates - see DevCon2014 13.36.01 # that sounds fun 13.37.12 # Search through our manual does not hit anything relevant for 'frequency' or 'sample rate' so I guess manual is lacking 13.40.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.40.35 # added my name to the wiki page now 13.40.43 # in simulator this is in Settings->Playback Settings->Frequency. This is not documented apparently 13.49.24 # wodz: unforuntately I'm afraid there are even more undocumented settings/stuff 13.55.35 # http://pastebin.com/tTH1k8RH <- What do you think? 13.56.37 # you should ask AlexP 13.57.11 # though I can say that up-casing you isnt correct 13.57.58 # I think not all targets feature this too 13.58.19 Join Jack87 [0] (Jack87@nasadmin/admin/jack87) 13.59.35 # hmm, the targets with codecs supporting 48kHz probably 13.59.58 # I don't think we have conditional for that 14.00.30 # yes we do 14.01.21 # play_frequency 14.02.40 # I think you can do opt{play_frequency}{...} 14.03.09 Quit funman (Changing host) 14.03.09 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 14.07.38 # kugel: grep doesn't confirm this 14.07.53 # see apps/features.txt 14.08.12 # this file selects features for use in .lang files and the manual 14.15.38 Quit Scromple (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.15.52 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@161.43.73.67) 14.16.42 Quit PurlingNayuki (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.16.46 Quit bthomson___ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.17.10 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (uid20107@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cjrztexqjvinykor) 14.17.13 Join bthomson___ [0] (sid21436@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nrrstoysomlwytyx) 14.17.24 Quit Elfish (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.17.24 Quit SuperBrainAK (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.17.36 Quit TheSeven (Remote host closed the connection) 14.17.46 Quit Jack87 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.18.30 Quit myndzi (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.18.53 Quit igitoor (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.19.14 Quit maruk (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.20.01 Join igitoor [0] (igitur@2a00:d880:3:1::c1ca:a648) 14.20.48 Join Elfish [0] (amba@2001:1608:12:1:13:3:3:7) 14.21.04 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 14.21.58 Join maruk [0] (~papier@titanium.v6.sdv.fr) 14.22.51 Join DormantBrain [0] (~andy@2001:470:8:a61::5f92:59a1) 14.22.58 Join myndzi [0] (myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e) 14.23.16 Nick DormantBrain is now known as SuperBrainAK (~andy@2001:470:8:a61::5f92:59a1) 14.27.51 Join Jack87 [0] (Jack87@nasadmin/admin/jack87) 14.30.05 Quit igitoor (Changing host) 14.30.05 Join igitoor [0] (igitur@unaffiliated/contempt) 14.33.59 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 14.35.48 Quit Rower (Quit: Hmmm...) 14.39.37 Quit michaelni (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.41.13 Quit Zagor (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 14.45.23 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 14.52.36 Join michaelni [0] (~michael@194-118-170-196.adsl.highway.telekom.at) 15.04.48 Join eternnoir [0] (sid13219@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zbqagnmjeumbnfkk) 15.08.30 Quit y4n (Quit: MOTHER EUROPA CALLING ME!) 15.10.28 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 15.12.10 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@h176n2-aeg-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com) 15.19.35 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 15.21.52 Quit cmhobbs (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 15.40.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.40.22 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@thoe.ipv6.intevation.de) 16.13.26 Join Misanthropos [0] (~Misanthro@frnk-4d0134c2.pool.mediaWays.net) 16.19.00 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 16.27.23 Join saratoga [0] (123e11e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.17.224) 16.28.08 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16.29.01 # is there anyway to check defines in the latex manual? 16.29.08 # i don't suppose we have it preprocessed? 16.31.05 # Depends 16.31.38 # * gevaerts tries to remember the details 16.32.33 # Right 16.33.13 # also looking at the menus, calling the sampling rate "frequency" is a little vague 16.33.15 # I *believe* (but I might miss a detail here) that you can use features from apps/features.txt in \opt{} blocks, and apps/features.txt is preprocessed 16.34.37 # features.txt defines "play_frequency" if the sampling rate can be changed 16.34.48 # it is (made to do so in the latex part, you can't simply use the C declarations) 16.35.11 # so it would be "\opt{play_frequency}{}"? 16.35.28 # Yes 16.35.30 # so only features.txt and the platform files define usable opt{}s 16.39.16 # how do i build the manual? i thought it was an option in configure but i'm not seeing it? 16.40.07 # not anymore, you "make manual" 16.40.19 # for a pdf that is 16.40.20 # thanks 16.41.46 # the pdflatex package on ubuntu apparently takes something like 2 GB of disk space 16.41.53 # is there a version of the manual i can compile without it? 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I had a M3 remote working perfectly on both OF and Rockbox on X5 and M3 and today I just got a X5 remote and this one only works properly with OF. With Rockbox the display is shaking 20.41.22 # there* 20.44.53 # amiconn: ping 20.51.04 Quit ygrek (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.35.56 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@91-65-253-235-dynip.superkabel.de) 21.35.56 Quit kugel (Changing host) 21.35.56 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 21.36.52 # Dirty contacts, most probably 21.37.05 # Rockbox drives the remote quite ab it faster than the OF 21.38.54 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9EEA8FD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.39.25 # *a bit 21.40.03 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g224237179.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.40.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.40.25 # hum interesting. I'll try to clean up the contacts with alcohol. But visually at least it doesn't look dirty 21.42.43 # the x5 remote is unusable anyways... unfortunately 21.42.48 # thats what she said 21.46.41 # There might be a bad connection in the remote itself (where the cable is soldered to the board - these solder points aren't exactly high quality), or this individual chip might not like the rather high driving frequency (which is still well within the chip's specs btw) 21.46.47 # amiconn: nope, cleaning up didn't help. the display is still shaking heavily and sometimes gets full blank 21.48.10 # If it's the latter, all one could do is slowing down the driver (at the cost of slower updates, and on M3 probably giving up greylib operation) 21.48.39 # but that would mean there are different chips revisions? 21.48.55 # and the older M3 remote would work better than the more recent X5 remote?! 21.48.59 # More likely different quality cables 21.49.50 # okay 21.50.06 # were there similar reports in the past or am I the first one? 21.50.29 # As I said, the driving frequency is well within the chip's specs, but the rather long cable might make a difference. This type of signal connection is most probably not meant to be run across a 50cm+ cable, as it is originally a chip-chip connection 21.51.31 # dfkt: why? I can't really say, it's more for the collection than real use. I just like when things are working properly 21.51.56 # Afair there were reports like this, after which I changed the driver so that it lowers the driving frequency when the CPU is boosted (if not changing the delay cycles, higher CPU clock means higher driving freqency) 21.52.00 # lebellium, its output is terribly noisy - probably due to the charge pump used 21.52.12 # it sounds ok with 100+ ohm phones, but terrible with iems 21.52.14 # dfkt: okay so it's just like the iRiver remote :D 21.52.19 # yeah :) 21.52.44 # i grabbed the audio signal from the cable before it hits the PCB, but it still was no good 21.52.44 # dfkt: It's not a charge pump (the backlight is LED, not EL). It's the lcd driving signal that causes the noise 21.52.58 # amiconn, aah ok, looked like a charge pump to me 21.53.22 # Resoldering the ground connection improved (lowered) the noise issue for one of my remotes 21.53.33 # if you use scrolling lines in your rwps, the noise is even worse than with static display, i noticed 21.53.51 # yep 21.54.00 # Static display means no updates have to be sent 21.54.41 Quit shamus (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.54.57 # Using greylib is probably worst (affects M3 only as only that one has the remote as its main display and hence greylib on it) 21.55.42 # pfff so many things to take into account. That's 2005 home-made stuff or what :) 21.55.56 # Back the I experimented a lot to adjust the driving method for minimal interference 21.57.07 # the X5 remote I got from Linus also blanks sometimes on my M5 21.57.19 # But "minimal" doesn't necessarily mean "low" 21.57.45 # heh 21.58.10 # Regarding the occasional blanking I wanted to implement automatic reset at regular intervals as a counter-measure 21.58.17 # (iirc the OF does that too) 21.58.45 # My two remotes are working fine, both on M3 and X5 21.59.03 # (at least they did when I last tried two years ago or so) 21.59.22 # the audio signal cables are soldered to the pcb, and go to the 3.5mm plug via lines on the pcb... i even desoldered those and bridged the audio signal via separate small wires, directly sodered to the 3.5mm plug - but it still was noisy 21.59.46 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-193-180.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 22.00.13 # guess it would have been necessary to completely isolate the plug from the pcb 22.01.11 # Separating the wires only within the remote doesn't help much. They're running in parallel like 50+ cm within the cable 22.01.40 # As mentioned, somtimes the "ground" solder point is bad, and the it helps to resolder it 22.01.45 # *and then 22.01.49 # i did resolder that too 22.02.05 # best thing would be to saw off the remote audio plug at the x5 end, and just grab the signal there 22.02.13 # You won't eliminate the noise this way, but it should become lower 22.03.15 # Yeah. Saw off the jack plug part, and plug the headphone directly into the main unit, only using the blade-shaped connector for connecting the remote 22.04.08 # yeah, or yanking the audio+ground lines from the remote cable near the x5 plug, and soldering a female 3.5mm plug on it 22.04.32 # both will look awful, but at least it would make the remote useful 22.04.35 # :) 22.05.35 # There are differences between individual remotes regarding the noise problem. 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I don't have a player near me... 23.50.41 # ...what? 23.51.17 # I don't carry one in my pocket at all times :)