--- Log for 09.04.114 Server: hitchcock.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 12 hours and 24 minutes ago 00.04.53 # gevaerts: uh evil! 00.05.16 # * gevaerts hopes he won't get his commit access revoked over this! 00.05.30 # rfa uses the the audio buffer to store the list and then starts playback 00.05.42 # Ah, right... 00.05.46 # Sounds like fun :) 00.07.36 # hm, plugins have no way to release the audio buffer currently 00.24.50 Quit rudi_s (Quit: leaving) 00.25.58 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@178.174.137.6) 00.27.49 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.27.56 Join rudi_s [0] (~simon@ruderich.eu) 00.28.01 Join dfkt [0] (OxO29A@unaffiliated/dfkt) 00.29.37 # yay, one major step towards a proper (well, less improper) playlist library interface 00.36.36 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.38.27 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-75-151-160.dynamic.chello.pl) 00.41.17 Quit Misanthropos (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.41.49 Quit wodz (Client Quit) 00.48.42 Join Gallomimia [0] (~gallomimi@209.115.181.5) 00.50.07 Join Misanthropos [0] (~Misanthro@frnk-4d0134c2.pool.mediaWays.net) 00.57.58 # kugel (logs), make sure you add a "clear/delete playlist" function ;) 01.00.18 Quit ender` (Quit: Kids. 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For some reason it isn't keeping bookmarks of my podcasts. Let's say I listened to an hour of a two hour podcast, then I stopped and loaded a song. When I go back to the podcast it starts back at the very beginning instead of continuing at an hour in. 05.27.21 # I set all the bookmark settings to Yes 05.27.36 # why isn't Rockbox remembering my place I was at in a podcast? 05.30.11 # I kinda figured it out. I have to manually make a bookmark by tapping the power button. That's kinda dumb 05.30.31 # In the stock firmware, it made these bookmarks automatically 05.31.53 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 05.33.31 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.38.10 # N0Lif3: i think you're using bookmarks incorrectly 05.38.17 # have you read the bookmark section of the manual? 05.40.02 # No, I'm just coming from having used the stock Sansa Clip+ firmware for over two years. 05.40.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.41.50 # well rockbox isn't designed to mimic sandisk's firmware :P for starters, sandisk players weren't even the first build targets 05.42.03 # there's a setting to auto-bookmark, let me poke at my player so I can get you the details :) 05.42.25 # because I agree it's a good setting, I dunno why it's not on by default but since it's available I don't mind 05.43.28 # one reason that I was compelled to try Rockbox was because I had heard you could adjust the volume in the settings using the face-buttons, which it does brilliantly. The volume control buttons on the side broke some time ago, so until now I've been stuck on a single volume setting 05.44.14 # general > settings > bookmarking > bookmark on stop 05.44.27 # Ive set all of those to yes 05.44.38 # also sorry to hear about your volume rocker, that sounds frustrating! 05.44.44 # oh wait I see 05.44.49 # you're trying to skip tracks but without stopping playback? 05.44.53 # and you still want it to bookmark? 05.45.33 # ah yes tapping the power button to stop playback 05.45.35 # you did mention it 05.46.25 # I have to agree with N0Lif3, it would be nice to have more failsafe bookmarking... I had to disable track skipping just so I didn't lose my place skipping tracks by accident 05.46.58 # though I wouldn't call it dumb, just a missing feature that would be nice :P 05.47.26 # yeah, there are times with the stock firmware when I'd accidentally hit the forward button to skip to the next podcast and then I could just hit back to the podcast I was listening to and it would continue right from where I left off 05.48.38 # I wonder if I'm going to get better or worse battery life with Rockbox. only time will tell 05.49.14 # I've heard better but I never bothered to test it :P 05.49.21 # these things get such ridiculously good battery life anyways 05.49.37 # not really. The Clip+'s battery life is actually pretty awful 05.49.42 # N0Lif3: sorry to recommend just a workaround, but you can disable track skip (and then go over to the playlist menu to skip) 05.49.48 # oh? how awful? 05.49.53 # It goes like 8hours 05.50.16 # hmm 05.50.23 # I wonder if your battery itself has wear and tear on it 05.50.35 # it's always been this way. 05.50.37 # if not, you're probably gonna see it somewhat better with rockbox 05.50.44 # though not hugely better 05.50.54 # 8 hours of continuous runtime isn't what I call horrible xD 05.51.03 # My old 2nd iPod Nano was incredible. It felt like the battery lasted forever. I would only ever charge it for like 5-10 minutes whenever I sync'd new podcasts and it would go a week of rigorous podcast listening 05.51.17 # oh well apple products are a whole other category when it comes to battery life :P 05.51.35 # rockbox will bring it closer to 10 or 12 hours I think 05.51.44 # that'll be nice 05.51.45 # rockbox does have a battery stats logger if you want to try it 05.52.06 # I saw. It claims I'm going to get 13 hours, but I'm taking it with a grain of salt 05.52.17 # I wouldn't be surprised 05.52.29 Join |akaWolf| [0] (~akaWolf@188.134.9.161) 05.52.43 # is there a "lock screen" function? 05.53.22 # holding the home button used to turn on lock screen mode, it doesn't do it anymore 05.53.41 # holding the home button shows options for shuffle and repeat 05.54.39 # simultaneously hit center and back 05.54.45 # on the wps 05.55.04 # that did it 05.55.06 # god I miss hold switches, RIP 05.55.06 # thanks 05.55.08 # welcome! 05.56.24 # The Clip+ really doesn't need Rockbox. The stock firmware already plays every format. I got my FLAC albums on my Clip+ 06.02.33 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 06.04.14 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 06.06.23 Join ungali [0] (~ungali@unaffiliated/ungali) 06.07.21 # well if you don't need rockbox then good for you :P 06.07.28 # I wouldn't buy these things if it weren't for rockbox 06.08.08 # it's about a lot more than just codec support (and yes, we should applaud sandisk for that, though I was using rockbox on sandisk players before sandisk added vorbis and flac, so mleh!) 06.11.06 # everything about Rockbox seems like an upgrade except for the way it deals with podcast bookmarking. 06.19.20 # yeah I do agree with you there 06.19.29 # but you'll get better responses saying what you just said and asking for a feature 06.19.37 # than coming in and slamming rockbox and calling it stupid :P 06.20.12 # eg the dev who told you you're doing it wrong and said to rtfm and went back to sleep :P 06.20.17 # (I'm not a dev, just a fellow user) 06.20.22 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 06.21.40 # rockbox is faster. it navigates a podcast faster and I can navigate through a list of all of my songs much faster 06.22.44 # yeah, I love it... the ui takes learning, but it's not designed to ship on devices, it's designed for power users 06.22.52 # once you know the ui, it makes stock firmwares all seem so clunky 06.26.34 # alexbobp: I didnt go back to sleep :) I went off for lunch, but yeah, bookmarks is a feature I've never used so not even sure how it is expected to work, hence the rtfm comment 06.26.39 Quit tertu_ (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 06.26.54 # oh well fair enough :P 06.27.00 Join tertu [0] (~quassel@143.44.65.14) 06.27.04 # in present form it works only when you manually stop playback 06.27.09 # JdGordon if you could make bookmarking as perfect as it is in Sansa Clip+'s stock firmware. I would love you forever 06.27.14 # I suspect for the most part only podcast listeners use that feature, but if you listen to podcasts it's great 06.27.20 # yeah I'm with N0Lif3 06.27.25 # so if you want to have two new best friends... :P 06.27.27 # I've been a podcast listener since 2005 06.27.33 # podcasts are the best 06.27.36 # sorry, already married :p 06.27.47 # two new creepy internet stalkers then! 06.27.48 # she wouldn't have to know ;) 06.27.49 # what could go wrong 06.27.52 # harhar 06.28.03 # jk, just messing with ya 06.28.12 # yeah we'll be good 06.33.29 # While listening to a podcast, if I navigated to a song/other podcast and start it, it would make a bookmark of that podcast I was listening to. When I go back to that other podcast, it would ask if I wanted to continue where I was or start at the beginning. 06.34.08 # just explaining it so perhaps you could consider adding this logic to Rockbox 06.34.53 # check the manual.. I thought it does that already 06.36.08 Quit Misanthropos (Remote host closed the connection) 06.38.39 Join Misanthropos [0] (~Misanthro@frnk-5f742aa6.pool.mediaWays.net) 06.44.39 # I've looked at the manual and tried messing with it with all of the bookmarking settings set to Yes and it doesn't function like the stock firmware does. I can only get it to save a bookmark manually by tapping the power button once 06.46.21 Quit ungali (Quit: ungali) 06.46.33 Quit tertu (Remote host closed the connection) 06.52.37 Quit ygrek (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.53.10 # N0Lif3, you could easily add a menuentry for rockbox like auto update bookmark on skip or so 06.56.49 # but i would not like the idea if skipping through a playlist of bookmarking every single one... 06.58.28 # a feature like that should then check playtime and consider it before setting a bookmark before skipping 06.59.33 # listen to podcasts on a Clip+ with the stock firmware for a while and you'll fall in love with just how perfect it is with bookmarking. It isn't messy in the slightest 06.59.39 Quit us`0gb (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.59.45 Join us^0gb [0] (~0gb.us@c-50-137-60-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 07.00.04 Join tertu [0] (~quassel@143.44.65.14) 07.03.33 # i never really used the stock firmware... except to copy files while usb support was not ready... 07.04.07 # and despised the database updating afterwards 07.04.41 # but again: you could try to hardcode autobookmarking .. should be easy 07.05.22 # the stock firmwares database updating is fast on the latest firmware. I remember it used to be slow, but believe me it's almost instant now 07.05.46 # on a 64gb sdcard? i doubt that :) 07.06.33 # how much music are you adding? how often? I add hundreds of megs of podcasts on a daily basis and it's instantaneous 07.06.44 Quit tertu (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 07.06.51 Join tertu [0] (~quassel@143.44.65.14) 07.07.44 # i prefer to unmount mine an have it run :) 07.08.10 # but i think i actually could be a good idea to have bookmarking on skip configurable 07.09.07 # i do listen a lot to audioplays and sometimes skip by accident... 07.10.54 # will sleep on that :) 07.10.56 # good night 07.17.05 Quit Misanthropos (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 07.24.40 Quit us^0gb (Quit: http://0gb.us/) 07.33.18 Quit tertu (Remote host closed the connection) 07.33.51 Join us`0gb [0] (~0gb.us@c-50-137-60-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 07.40.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.56.29 Quit N0Lif3 (Quit: Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. 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Revision 9576134, 253 builds, 30 clients. 09.05.58 Join petur [0] (5bb7304d@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.12.12 # Build Server message: 3Build round completed after 475 seconds. 09.15.25 # alexbobp: I think bookmarks are saved on automatic stop also 09.15.31 # or at least there a setting for it 09.16.48 # oh hmm I see. sounds like a bug to me although I also didnt develop the bookmarks feature 09.18.50 # in case "stopped and loaded a song" meant starting a new playlist, e.g. by selecting a new file in the filebrowser 09.18.59 # not sure what should happen if you just skip in the playlist 09.21.25 Quit ruskie (Excess Flood) 09.21.48 Join ruskie [0] (ruskie@sourcemage/mage/ruskie) 09.37.20 Join auntphrax [0] (auntphrax@173-80-215-95-krmt.atw.dyn.suddenlink.net) 09.40.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.41.57 Quit auntphrax (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.45.49 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.51.25 Join fragilematter [0] (~fragilema@unaffiliated/fragilematter) 09.57.22 # jhMikeS: ping 10.05.09 Join GodEater [0] (93722cc9@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 10.13.17 Join [Saint] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/staff/saint) 10.15.16 # kugel: quickly, I'm off really soon :) 10.16.01 # jhMikeS: oh hmm. I'm working on getting the filetree out of playlist.c. this requires re-doing the dirplay/auto-dirskip logic 10.16.34 # I thought I could use the BUFFER_LOW event to trigger a dirskip but I found it doesnt fire on end-of-playlist. is there a specific reason for that? 10.16.48 # * gevaerts wants to buy kugel lots of beers for this work 10.17.12 # can someone just confirm I've not lied to a colleague at work 10.17.18 # gevaerts: do it in warsaw :) 10.17.22 # 128GB microSDs do work ok in the sansa clip zip right? 10.17.28 # kugel: Because it's not really expecting more data 10.17.29 # kugel: I'll do my best! 10.17.48 # GodEater: I remember another successful report 10.17.52 # GodEater: I think you didn't lie, *on this occasion* :) 10.18.09 # manual reformat to fat32 is required of course 10.18.21 # kugel: ah yes - good point! 10.18.36 # * GodEater will convey this info to the intereted party 10.18.40 # Also changing the partition type, maybe? 10.18.42 # * gevaerts isn't sure 10.19.01 # jhMikeS: it looks like playback.c explicitely zeros the watermark (which disables the event entirely) and instead uses the codec finished event to initiate dirskip 10.20.01 # I would think the BUFFER_LOW event is more suitable since it's designed so that new audio can be buffered without trouble 10.21.31 # it shouldn't initiate dirskip before the codec is done 10.22.15 # BUFFER_LOW just means the buffer is low, not that anything completed 10.24.03 # ah hm, i see. the buffer_low could fire before the codec is finished, and since dirskip replaces the playlist at once the audio would be cut off 10.24.42 # this sounds nightmarish :D 10.24.47 # alright. assuming I changed it so the new dir would be added to the playlist (and the currently playing track changed to be queued so it's automatically removed), then BUFFER_LOW would be better? 10.24.57 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.25.44 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 10.26.02 # it does suppress it when it reaches the end of all data of course since end of data shouldn't trip the event 10.26.43 # It's not really in need of more and since it's a new playlist, it's a new playback sequence altogether 10.28.49 # I want to find a way to hook up the dirskip mechanism outside of playlist.c 10.30.09 # the auto or manual one? 10.30.19 # both 10.31.06 # well, the manual one goes through playback.c even before playlist.c which I would also like to get rid of 10.31.55 # are you trying to build the next play sequence so that it's not really a new playlist but just adjusting the current one? 10.32.45 # I think the mechanism should use a playlist API to insert the new tracks (or replace the whole playlist), _when_ it's notified in some way that playback is out of data 10.33.25 # I'm not trying anything yet but changing the current playlist is a possiblity 10.33.34 # (is still exploring) 10.33.57 # so, basically, the inter-playlist hacks in playback.c will be able to go....hmmm 10.34.30 # there's some nasty stuff because it can't look ahead across a playlist boundary 10.34.47 # it would actually simplify it if that crap could go away 10.36.53 # if as far as playback knew, it was just playing one long playlist it would only suppress that at the actual last track to play before stopping 10.39.25 # if playlist_peek never returns 0, it just goes along like nothing 10.39.32 # playback would still need to handle the situation that it sees the end-of-playlist even though tracks will be added towards the end 10.40.58 # audio_flush_and_reload_tracks would do that 10.41.14 # that the playlist didn't actually end is not known until just before the last song ended (even when the mechanism is moved elsewhere) 10.42.08 # playlist_peek is called well before that 10.42.54 # of course, it's doing stuff seconds ahead of what's being heard 10.43.10 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 10.44.12 # it does a backout of the end playlist case 10.45.17 # audio_on_audio_flush 10.45.56 # i see 10.47.13 # jhMikeS: speaking of flushing. is it expected that the whole playlist is rebuffered even if a song is added to the end of the playlist (well after the last buffered song)? 10.47.18 Quit ygrek (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.48.09 # e.g. if I have 100 tracks, the 2nd one is playing, and I add one to the very end (101 songs now). the whole buffer is rebuffered which seems unecessary 10.49.21 # i see playlist.c calls audio_flush_and_reload_tracks() for all insertions because it can't know better, but I would think playback.c can know better? 10.51.00 # nothing tells it what got done so I didn't deal with that at the time since it wasn't about rewriting that part of it 10.52.37 # I guess it would depend upon whether rebuffering would actually result in discarding already-played tracks. if what's buffered is short of whatever was added at the end, it wouldn't have to rebuffer anything yet 10.53.53 # okay so it's kind of expected for now 10.57.16 # right now it might rebuffer whatever it already has buffered if it's on the first track, otherwise the buffering would start at the after the 2nd, 3rd, etc. and continue until full 10.58.37 # could "it looks like playback.c explicitely zeros the watermark (which disables the event entirely) and instead uses the codec finished event to initiate dirskip" be a reason for FS#11355 ? Too bad this work probably won't help hwcodec anymore :( 10.58.39 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11355 3Auto-Change Directory crashes hardwarecodec players (bugs, new) 10.59.34 # pixelma: since HWCODEC doesn't use playback.c, I don't think there's any relationship :( 11.00.01 # ah, ok 11.00.42 # I did try to spot why that could happen (looking at mpeg.c) but couldn't see it 11.01.43 # hm it's almost 4 years old but I still never saw this bug 11.03.01 # kugel: If the playlist code could hint about what changed, then I'm sure playback could make more intelligent rebuffering decisions 11.03.01 # if you don't use "Auto-Change Directory" on a hwcodec player... IIRC it's still there and I remember seeing reports of it in the forums every now and then 11.04.15 # jhMikeS: I don't feel like introducing a direct playlist<->buffering relationship 11.05.07 # it's not a huge problem right now imo. I was just curious 11.05.33 # Isn't there one already? 11.07.06 # * jhMikeS doesn't see how there _cannot_ be one since buffering order and playlist order are the same 11.08.01 # I mean playlist never calls buffering APIs and the other way around 11.08.08 # there is always the playback layer between 11.08.32 # sure, but flush_and_reload tracks can pass a hint as to where the change happened 11.13.07 # basically it just has to know if what it already buffered is now invalid; if it's outside that range it will see it when it calls playlist for more 11.14.13 # sounds doable 11.16.02 # gtg now. later 11.16.53 # bye 11.20.19 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 11.24.37 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 11.25.14 # kugel: can you fill possible DevCon dates? 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I'm using it because it offers volume control with facebuttons as my built-in volume buttons on the Clip+ are broken. 16.04.27 # I got an idea. When I'm playing a song, when I hold the Hold button it shows a screen where I can enable Shuffle and Repeat by pressing left or right respectively. On this screen, pressing Play(up) and Menu(down) do nothing. I was wondering if it's possible to modify this screen for me so up and down will adjust the volume 16.04.35 # this would be absolutely perfect for me 16.05.22 # is there a file I could edit to make this a real thing? 16.06.17 Quit Misanthropos (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.08.21 # N0Lif3: that's the quickscreen, and yes, that's configurable 16.08.41 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.09.01 # Go to the setting you want, and instead of entering it hold the dentre button and pick "Set as ... quickscreen item" 16.09.11 # *centre 16.09.34 # You can pick all four of them 16.10.13 # And if you set two opposite sides (left and right, or top and bottom) to the same setting, they will act as up and down for that setting 16.10.13 Quit copper (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in) 16.11.43 # that was easy 16.13.07 # I set Volume to quickscreens up and down, but it's backwards. Pressing up is lowing the volume and down makes it louder. Is there an easy way to swap this? 16.13.25 # nevertheless. I'm happy that I have accessible volume controls again 16.13.29 Join copper [0] (~copper@unaffiliated/copper) 16.13.35 # thanks 16.13.38 # Hmmm, not sure if that's possible... 16.16.09 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 16.34.42 Part toehser 16.38.57 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 16.40.15 Join maruk1 [0] (~papier@titanium.v6.sdv.fr) 16.55.31 # why is my iPod Classic charging over USB even after I set "Charge During USB Connection" to "no"? 16.57.06 Quit Zagor (Quit: Clint excited) 16.59.16 Join kuldeepdhaka [0] (~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka) 17.07.13 Join IgoRCL [0] (~IgorC@host166.181-1-210.telecom.net.ar) 17.07.25 # copper: the setting doesnt control charging, but UMS mode 17.07.38 # so it's either charge or charge+usb storage 17.07.47 # hi to all 17.08.02 # is there any plan to realese stable Rockbox for Android... 17.08.04 # ? 17.08.15 # copper : oh, hi there! 17.08.46 # until now there is not official Android channel (or fork) 17.08.51 # IgoRCL: no, unfortunatelly not 17.08.55 # :( 17.09.23 # the port isn't ready for the masses and will probably never be without substantial effort 17.09.40 # and we don't currently have the manpower for this effort 17.10.58 # well, it's a little bit buggy... I''ve learnt how to avoid crashes. I should always get back to Android main window ...and never let a Android window when close the phone 17.11.18 # this way it never crashes 17.11.19 # kugel: I'm sorry, what? 17.11.37 # ive used android rockbox some 17.11.38 # copper: Man, whats upp? 17.11.39 # kugel: "This option lets you control whether the player should charge during the USB connection and hence draw the full 500 mA. Turning it Off is recommended if the player is connected through an unpowered USB hub or a laptop port." 17.11.49 # ive noticed no problems with it yet 17.11.51 # that's from the iPod Video manual 17.12.05 # copper: hm. then I mixed it up, sorry. gevaerts? ^ 17.12.24 # kugel: Thank You for information 17.25.17 Quit petur (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.38.20 Quit us`0gb (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 17.40.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.41.08 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 17.43.11 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 17.43.42 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-75-151-160.dynamic.chello.pl) 17.43.48 # kugel: ping 17.45.55 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 17.46.20 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 17.46.48 Quit alucryd (Quit: Alucryd out.) 17.48.17 Quit habys (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2) 17.53.22 Quit kiwicam (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17.57.29 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.57.34 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 17.59.11 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 18.00.56 Join Misanthropos [0] (~Misanthro@frnk-4d01321a.pool.mediaWays.net) 18.02.12 # wodz: pong. 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