--- Log for 26.04.114 Server: barjavel.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 16 hours and 7 minutes ago 00.03.07 # th_m 00.03.18 # I know that issue 00.03.53 # did you download those files by using youtube converter? or just as they are? (zippyshare media fire) 00.10.42 # no these are pretty old mp3s (dutch audiobook) I downloaded a few years ago 00.11.19 # first 12 mp3s of the book are skipped and then it starts with no 13 00.12.55 # Ok to share them but not on IRC :) 00.13.33 Join Student [0] (~chatzilla@87.114.40.226) 00.15.12 Quit Student (Client Quit) 00.16.42 # try to 00.16.48 # convert them 00.17.31 # http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/products/dvd/Free-Audio-Converter.htm 00.17.44 # to a diffrent format or better or less quality 00.17.49 # that worked for me 00.18.41 Quit ender` (Quit: typeof(string).GetField("Empty").SetValue(null, "Empty");) 00.19.06 # good idea, I can certainly do that. Main reason was not to get those mp3s working though, just want to help finding bugs in rockbox and helping devs improving it. 00.21.42 # i'm not a dev i'm less then 00.21.45 # that 00.22.48 # pamuary helped with a brightness error apparently my clip+ is drunk when i use it shows the screen very dim after hitting on the back the brightness is good 00.22.49 # lol 00.23.29 # no problem, appreciate your comments and I think I will indeed try to convert the mp3s 00.23.40 # yea 00.23.51 # maybe the coding of the file is damaged? 00.24.06 # but you said it works on your pc so no way 00.24.43 Quit Misanthropos (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.31.33 # th_m, this might be relevant to your broken mp3s: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20140318#19:50:36 00.44.39 Quit sakax (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 00.46.40 # thanks dfkt, indeed very similar. will try mp3val 00.47.41 # if the issue is fixable, it usually is the best first step - good luck 00.49.22 # of course it would still be good to check what the actual issue is - but i'm no dev, and i couldn't say anyways why rockbox doesn't like them and other players do 00.54.21 # yep, mp3val solves it 00.54.54 # nice program, even makes backup files automatically :) 00.59.14 # it would be nice indeed to have it fixed in rockbox though. And if the devs think the file itself is the core issue, an error message would be nice. 01.01.13 # glad to help ya 01.01.16 # :) 01.02.59 # try to search the file that you have on the interent 01.04.28 Quit xza23 (Quit: Page closed) 01.20.10 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 29.0/20140421221237]) 01.20.28 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01.32.12 Nick adnap_ is now known as adnap (~adnap@cpe-24-27-24-18.austin.res.rr.com) 01.44.30 Quit scorche (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 01.50.19 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 01.56.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.24.06 Quit teythoon (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 02.25.08 Join teythoon [0] (~teythoon@mail.jade-hamburg.de) 02.36.22 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 02.39.18 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 02.42.44 Quit dfkt (Disconnected by services) 02.42.45 Join dfkt_ [0] (OxO29A@unaffiliated/dfkt) 02.46.05 Join Misanthropos [0] (~Misanthro@frnk-5f745be9.pool.mediaWays.net) 03.00.00 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 03.22.31 Quit us`0gb (Quit: http://0gb.us/) 03.23.11 Quit Misanthropos (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.56.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.59.27 Quit dfkt_ (Remote host closed the connection) 04.06.24 Quit RiD (Quit: A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.) 04.10.38 Quit yosafbridge (Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)) 04.15.12 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.15.12 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.15.12 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.15.13 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.15.14 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.15.15 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.15.39 Join yosafbridge [0] (~yosafbrid@192.241.198.49) 04.15.59 Quit yosafbridge (Remote host closed the connection) 04.19.38 Join yosafbridge [0] (~yosafbrid@192.241.198.49) 04.20.44 Quit yosafbridge (Remote host closed the connection) 04.26.45 Join yosafbridge [0] (~yosafbrid@192.241.198.49) 05.22.18 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 05.33.09 Join Misanthropos [0] (~Misanthro@frnk-4d01c030.pool.mediaWays.net) 05.37.25 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 05.39.00 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.56.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.04.02 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 06.04.22 Quit cmhobbs (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 06.16.44 Quit Misanthropos (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 07.06.00 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.20.37 # <[Saint]> Ah, crap - the gradient slants slightly on these icons. I can't get away with just flipping one pair of seek/skip icons and feeling good about it. 07.21.49 # <[Saint]> I decided against using a flat icon set, not /just/ because making one was getting to be a pain in the ass, but also because I wanted to bleed a bit more of the Tango Desktop icon set through from the menu into the WPS. 07.22.47 # <[Saint]> That iconset generator script in the source, by the way? Bravo. 07.24.02 # <[Saint]> I had made a poor call on that previously when I didn't like the results I got trying to generate an incon set that was in hindsight far too small to give any pleasing results. 07.25.09 # <[Saint]> I made 64x64 96x96 and 128x128 sets for myself last night and they look amazing. 07.48.36 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 07.49.05 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 07.49.05 # * [Saint] winces 07.49.43 # <[Saint]> I found much nicer icons. Gah. 07.51.35 # <[Saint]> Now to rip off the AOSP scrubber bar... 07.56.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.01.22 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 08.04.06 Quit scorche (Disconnected by services) 08.04.09 Join scorche` [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 08.05.08 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 08.13.54 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 08.15.00 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 08.31.06 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p4FC74688.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 08.39.17 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 08.39.34 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p4FC74688.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 08.39.34 Quit einhirn (Client Quit) 09.28.37 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 09.56.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.26.21 Join kuldeepdhaka [0] (~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka) 10.52.02 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.01.36 # <[Saint]> Grrrrrr. 11.02.00 # * [Saint] now feels copper's gimp colorspace woes. 11.02.11 # :D 11.02.46 # <[Saint]> SVG -> ARGB is...fun. 11.02.59 # <[Saint]> *ARCG bitmap 11.03.09 # <[Saint]> gah - can't type. 11.03.41 # <[Saint]> Anyhoo - yeah, inconsistent colors for seemingly no reason, yay! 11.06.03 # <[Saint]> I can "fix" it by making the source image a little bit darker, and a little bit 'bluer'. Then the destination image looks a lot closer to the unmodified original. 11.06.50 Join tapiralec [0] (~alec@cpe-76-184-244-146.tx.res.rr.com) 11.08.59 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 11.09.19 Quit tapiralec (Remote host closed the connection) 11.09.27 Join tapiralec [0] (~alec@cpe-76-184-244-146.tx.res.rr.com) 11.09.55 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 11.11.19 Quit th_m (Quit: Leaving) 11.20.08 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-178-161.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 11.27.14 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 11.56.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.10.23 Join Rower [0] (~husvagn@h176n2-aeg-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com) 12.32.18 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 12.32.18 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 12.32.18 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 12.32.59 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 12.51.18 Join RiD [0] (~RiD@2.83.10.226) 12.59.54 Join dfkt [0] (OxO29A@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.29.39 # <[Saint]> copper: around? 13.29.47 # I am 13.31.42 # <[Saint]> If you had a ffc000 strip the adjoins 000000, and needed to fit a progress bar/scrubber in between, what color(s) would you use? 13.33.14 # * [Saint] is aware of the odd nature of the vague question. 13.33.20 # the adjoins? 13.33.36 # <[Saint]> One sec. 13.33.53 # like one horizontal black bar, a progress bar just below, and an orange bar below that? 13.35.40 # <[Saint]> http://i.imgur.com/kmAXsVV.png?1 13.36.04 # <[Saint]> that's the backdrop, it looks a bit weird blank. 13.36.10 # where does the progress bar go? 13.36.55 # nm 13.37.03 # <[Saint]> Well I'd like to sit it right on top of the yellow/orange footer. 13.37.38 # you backdrop isn't pixel perfect btw 13.37.54 # it's got aliasing / resizing artifacts 13.38.10 # <[Saint]> that'll just be imgur murdering it. 13.38.36 # <[Saint]> yeah, it got resized for some reason. 13.40.19 # <[Saint]> Hmm. imgur hates bitmaps with an alpha layer. 13.44.36 # <[Saint]> this is the icon color scheme, also suitably murdered in transit, for an idea of the color scheme http://imgur.com/a/3N9aH#0 13.45.10 # <[Saint]> ah, its just the previews that look awful 13.45.40 # [Saint]: something like this: https://outpost.fr/tmp/xPx.png/ 13.46.05 # 30% black over the orange strip for the progress bar background 13.46.15 # #666666 for the progress bar itself 13.46.30 # <[Saint]> I could color match to the edge of the icons. 13.46.46 # <[Saint]> its a similar color unless my eyes are very bad. 13.47.05 # <[Saint]> (for the bar I mean.) 13.47.08 # the icons are gradients :) 13.47.53 # <[Saint]> Yeah, sorry, I was going to pick from the darkest edge of the border. 13.48.03 # and regardless of color matching, you need to make sure whatever color you choose provides enough contrast while being discreet and harmonious enough 13.50.05 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 13.50.08 # <[Saint]> That's why I asked, we're on a similar page though, which is nice. I'm a poor judge of color palette harmony. 13.50.34 # or dark orange (almost red), but I don't think it looks as good https://outpost.fr/tmp/Yev.png/ 13.50.55 # gray is more in tune with the Rockbox palette 13.51.11 # you can try various shades of gray 13.51.27 # <[Saint]> Bottom of the icons comes out at 464744 13.51.52 # also make sure that the 30% black progressbar background is visible on your target device 13.52.08 # it can be visible on your PC monitor and not on your device 13.52.16 # or not visible enough 13.53.02 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 13.53.32 # personally, I find it very difficult to work with colors on an application such as a music player interface, especially when it's going to display cover art with tons of different colors 13.54.17 # you might end up with the stupid case of this one album with cover art that clashes horribly with your theme 13.54.43 # <[Saint]> ...which is why pretty much every Android player color matches the UI to the dominant AA color. 13.54.50 # <[Saint]> Damn that's a smart trick. 13.54.55 # using colors is less risky when you use them on elements that are separated from the rest by a white background 13.55.33 # i.e. an all white background, with distinct elements with colors, with the white background separating them from, say, the cover art 13.56.04 # I've tried to come up with a theme using the Rockbox colors, but I haven't figured it out yet 13.56.29 # another tip that will avoid color clashing, is to use very dark tones 13.56.30 # <[Saint]> Its difficult. Hence my dilemma with the scrubber. 13.56.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.56.49 # like dark orange 13.57.12 # i.e. bright orange with a translucent black over it, playing with the transparency level of the black bit 13.57.40 # <[Saint]> I'm thinking possibly orange for the scrubber handle on the progress bar. 13.57.51 # or, or more reddish orange (the alpha black thing won't work for that) 13.58.27 # [Saint]: I'd go for a black status bar or whatever, with a thin bright orange progress bar, and an otherwise white background 13.58.59 # eh, that's been done already 13.59.11 # http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=1962&target=ipod6g 13.59.15 # amayer's theme 13.59.30 # it works quite well IMO 13.59.37 # very clean 13.59.42 # high contrast 14.00.26 # come to think of it, I might work on an evolution of that theme 14.02.44 # the trick is to not overuse the orange 14.03.47 # I'm starting to like the thick progress bar on that theme 14.09.52 Quit kuldeepdhaka (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 14.10.33 Join kuldeepdhaka_ [0] (~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka) 14.16.28 # <[Saint]> Hmmm. 4D4D4D, "VideoLAN Orange" 14.17.10 # <[Saint]> Thank you, Chrome page source viewer. 14.17.42 # black / orange is a combination that's fairly common :) 14.18.11 # I like black / bright green, too 14.18.12 # #4d4d4d? that's a... subtle orange 14.19.45 # uh 14.19.46 # lol 14.19.52 # yeah, that's gray :) 14.22.46 # <[Saint]> Errr, sorry - pastebuffer screwup. 14.22.50 # <[Saint]> f48b00, rather. 14.23.21 # <[Saint]> and/or e85e00 14.25.00 # <[Saint]> Gah - Google uses a very similar orange. 14.25.23 # <[Saint]> but with a mostly whiteish theme 14.29.11 # <[Saint]> Anyhoo, thanks for the ideas - I'll mull over my options overnight - I might find myself dropping that bottom panel of yellow entirely and leaving it black. 14.29.37 # <[Saint]> But the top part has to stay. At least. I have plans for it. 14.32.09 # <[Saint]> The theme elements allow me to do so without too much fuss. Nothing is too set in stone thus far. 14.34.12 # <[Saint]> Maybe a dithered backdrop. 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