--- Log for 27.04.114 Server: barjavel.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 16 hours ago 00.00.18 Join dfkt [0] (OxO29A@unaffiliated/dfkt) 00.09.54 Join RiD [0] (~RiD@bl22-10-226.dsl.telepac.pt) 00.11.21 Join Misanthropos [0] (~Misanthro@frnk-4d0093a5.pool.mediaWays.net) 00.16.21 Quit ender` (Quit: Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. 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Please correct them to continue: You did not answer the verification questions correctly. 22.12.27 # I tye 13 and it's correct but it's it's wong 22.12.30 # wrong 22.12.40 # type 22.16.16 # I doubt it's always the same 22.19.05 # it doesn't give to register 22.19.29 # i think that the clip sport won't be rockboxable 22.19.37 # cuz' of the memory 22.20.06 # 88 kilobytes when rockbox requires 2mb 22.21.16 # another issue is that we are not entirely sure of what is inside the chip 22.21.54 # fairies 22.23.09 # given the spec of the cpu, it's very likely the chip contains a DSP with an even weirder architecture which we absolutely don't want to port rockbox to 22.25.13 # than most likely it won't be rockboxed 22.25.16 # :( 22.25.20 # then 22.26.07 # i can't find on the net a list of all the components in the sansa clip+ 22.29.34 # you won't likely find one, what are you looking for ? 22.30.32 Join RiD [0] (~RiD@2.83.10.226) 22.31.15 Quit z180 (Quit: It looks like you want to reboot!!!!!!!!!!) 22.31.34 # i found it 22.31.39 # but not of the sport's 22.31.46 # i found clip+ 22.32.07 Join saratoga [0] (123e11e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.18.62.17.224) 22.33.19 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@91-64-117-207-dynip.superkabel.de) 22.33.20 Quit kugel (Changing host) 22.33.20 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 22.33.33 # say paamruy 22.33.36 # pamaury 22.33.46 # how much it took to port clip+ 22.33.47 # ? 22.35.20 # the ams players took a year or two to get running well i think 22.35.30 # you can't tell for a single player 22.35.49 # it was a very similar to the clipv2, so porting to the clip+ was much less work 22.36.02 # but yeah for a new architecture, you can expect at least one or two years 22.36.08 # yea if so then how much it to port the slipv2 22.36.10 # clip 22.36.20 # took 22.36.31 # year 22.36.37 # alright tnx :) 22.36.43 # I think funman did much (all ?) the work, you should ask him 22.36.58 # there is no general rule anyway 22.37.13 # ok tnx 22.39.12 # What is 5 + 8? (enter wombat in the field): 22.39.14 # 13 22.39.25 # 12 22.39.27 # doesn't work in the registration 22.39.32 # okay 22.40.03 # 12 didn't work either 22.41.16 # looks like the e200v2 came out in fall 2007 and we added official support for it in January 2010 22.41.33 # although it probably worked to a large extent before it was finally made stable 22.42.17 # enter wombat in the field???? 22.42.20 # 13 doesn't work 22.44.38 # say guys if someone is like this "funman is away: not here..." 22.44.52 # will he see my sent messages? 22.45.29 Join user1234 [0] (2ed0db83@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.208.219.131) 22.45.52 # maybe, he is quite inactive now 22.46.22 # if i send a message to you saying help me and you are afk will you see it? 22.46.47 # xza23 enter "wombat" in the field 22.46.47 # or i need to send it in the moment you are active? 22.46.54 # doesn't work 22.46.56 # 13 22.47.03 # ok 22.47.23 # no xza23 enter "wombat" in the field 22.47.35 Part user1234 22.47.38 # what is wombat 22.47.40 # ?? 22.47.59 # google translate doesn't tranlates it 22.48.53 # ih 22.48.54 # oh 22.49.00 # http://www.internetslang.com/WOMBAT-meaning-definition.asp 22.49.46 Join Student [0] (~chatzilla@131.219.208.46.dyn.plus.net) 22.50.17 # you are supposed to type the word "wombat" 22.50.36 # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wombat 22.50.42 # the idea is to keep out machines that don't understand english 22.51.14 # i need to type wombat 22.51.18 # and not 13? 22.51.20 # ok 22.51.26 # err its to check if you are a bot or not? 22.51.36 Quit Student (Client Quit) 22.51.38 # yes it works 22.51.39 # ty 22.53.18 # <[Saint]> Aaaaannnnd...the solution to the proof of life is now publicly logged 22.53.23 # <[Saint]> Well done chaps. 22.54.14 # <[Saint]> In hindsight I guess not cycling it is brain dead to begin with and we'd deserve anything that comes from it. 22.55.45 # <[Saint]> But, nevertheless, insert_frowny_face_here 23.11.54 # weird that jailbreaking an iPhone takes less than a year 23.12.16 # but a device that costs barely 100$ is taking a year lol 23.12.28 # xza23 iphone has a crapton more users 23.12.36 # xza23: that's nowhere comparable 23.12.39 # but the evaders 23.12.43 # and because of that, a lot more users can fiddle with that 23.12.45 # are only 4 persons 23.12.46 # with it* 23.12.50 # jailbraking basically does nothing 23.13.07 # how nothing? 23.13.17 # it's still the same os 23.13.23 # oh 23.13.24 # right 23.13.38 # because it is a diffrent opearting system 23.13.39 # on phones, you get a real OS, you can just run another program 23.13.41 # you haven't seen an iphone running android, eh 23.13.46 # on mp3 players, you can't just do that 23.13.55 # everything is different 23.14.08 # but it's possible to run android on iphone right? :)) 23.14.17 # i wish to do it xDD 23.14.21 # and also, on mp3 players, we don't have *any* document on the hardware, we have to reverse engineer many stuff 23.14.35 # on phones, you can let the vendor OS do it for you 23.15.12 # but can you change the the os to android on iphone? 23.15.18 # i never saw something 23.15.46 # i saw demos dreamboard and a lot of other tweaks the real android was never there 23.16.59 # is it possible? because i have an iphone 5s :D 23.18.37 # some of the older ones could, check google 23.19.01 # Apple's security is amazng 23.19.09 # I don't think anyone has done it, for the simple reason that noone has the doc for the iPhones's cpus, and it would takes years to reverse engineer 23.19.32 # not to mention it's probably extremely hard to bypass the bootloader's security checks 23.19.45 # yea 23.19.53 # and all for nearly no gain 23.20.01 # that why you can never run windows on iphone 23.20.12 # too :( 23.20.13 # I mean, iPhone users just want their iPhoneOS, and others don't want an iPhone 23.20.35 # you can't run windows on the iphone for a lot more important reasons than that, but Android yea 23.20.39 # I only wish you could do virtual system 23.20.56 # and run it 23.21.08 # like virtual box or vmware 23.21.32 Quit rela (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.21.53 # only on iphone 3g it is possible xD 23.23.10 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.23.20 # so ipod nano 5g didn't work because the security checks too? 23.23.26 # because i have one 23.25.02 # on the ipod's it's the same situation 23.25.11 # lots of security checks and unknown hardware 23.25.20 # at some point you just don't want to bother trying 23.27.30 # yea lol so many options if "jailbreaking and creating a custom system file" for an mp3 player then for an iphone 5s it will be impossible 23.27.39 # takes around a year 23.28.31 # I think for the nano 4g, it tooks 1 year of brute forcing to find a suitable exploit 23.29.29 # nano 4g isn't compatible 23.29.30 Quit RiD (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.29.40 # so basiclly any device can run rockbox? 23.30.08 # if you give it the appropriate amount of time 23.31.13 # ? if so then that amazing 23.31.23 # is 23.41.54 # not exactly any device, you have to have a minimum amount of RAM 23.41.56 # <[Saint]> Awww....he left. 23.42.02 # and a 32-bit processor 23.42.11 # <[Saint]> [09:13:44] you haven't seen an iphone running android, eh 23.42.18 # * [Saint] wanted to rip that to shreds 23.42.22 # <[Saint]> Sigh. 23.42.34 # <[Saint]> I guarantee I'll forget when he comes back. 23.43.14 # <[Saint]> I understood the impression that was being made, but, it was a bad example. 23.46.47 Join RiD [0] (~RiD@bl22-10-226.dsl.telepac.pt) 23.46.51 # rockbox isn't compatible with 64 bit cpus 23.46.53 # ? 23.47.15 # <[Saint]> RiD: Actually, iPohones do indeed run Android. ;) 23.47.26 # <[Saint]> iPhones too. 23.47.36 # well, it works when compiled as a sim on 64-bit processors, but we don't know of any mp3 with a 64-bit processor 23.47.50 # there will be for sure in the near future 23.47.54 # :;) 23.48.02 # and it basically makes no sense for us to use 64-bit 23.48.11 # it does actully 23.48.13 # except maybe for the DSP part 23.48.14 # <[Saint]> xza23: future, maybe. 23.48.17 # <[Saint]> near? Nah. 23.48.25 # 10 years 23.48.26 # xD 23.48.36 # <[Saint]> They are making 64bit Android devices presently, but the OS is still 32bit, so...yeah. 23.48.41 # in 10 years, mp3 players won't exists 23.48.47 # <[Saint]> Exactly. 23.48.53 # maybe you are right 23.49.07 # eventulyy mp3 player will include everything you need 23.49.19 # <[Saint]> No. They won;t exist. 23.49.24 # they will 23.49.27 # in my museum :) 23.49.27 # xza23: that's the other way around 23.49.28 # <[Saint]> Ha. 23.49.38 # everything will contain a mp3 player ^^ 23.49.45 # yea' 23.49.51 # <[Saint]> Dedicated DAPs are already a dead market, really. 23.50.01 # but apple doesn't like a fm radio 23.50.08 # <[Saint]> The only people that buy them are...us, and gym bunnies. 23.50.20 # <[Saint]> xza23: Fm is also dead. 23.50.22 # dap=digital audio convertor? 23.50.34 # <[Saint]> Digital Audio Player 23.50.39 # ok 23.51.12 # there is really a general trend to move everything to processors which run linux/android, at least 23.51.14 # <[Saint]> Modern devices don;t (often) support Fm, frankly, because no one cares about it. 23.51.34 # <[Saint]> where "no one" == "very, very few people" 23.51.43 # ido 23.51.47 # I think it depends on the countries. 23.51.49 # I do it works anywhere 23.51.53 # since processing power is so chip, why bother, just put a big processor, you get Linux and you can develop a normal app 23.51.59 # <[Saint]> Well, if you purchased millions of devices a year, I'm sure they'd still have it. 23.52.00 # *cheap 23.52.39 # fm radio can get to 200 miles minimum (not from a sansa clip+) but from something stronger 23.52.46 # <[Saint]> pamaury: these days, Android seems to be the new "linux" fr embedded usage. 23.52.51 # <[Saint]> *for 23.52.55 # <[Saint]> Its...weird. 23.52.55 # but cellular net no way 23.53.44 # I wish i could help in developing the sansa clip sport rockbox version 23.54.13 # <[Saint]> With what I know of the SoC, it won't happen. 23.54.23 # shit 23.54.38 # fuck sandisk 23.54.48 # they do on purpose i think 23.54.53 # it 23.55.15 # <[Saint]> I know right, fuck them for making a device that is cheap and meets their requirements instead of wasting power like they used to. 23.55.20 # <[Saint]> Selfish bastards right? 23.55.41 # yep 23.55.41 # <[Saint]> (hint: sarcasm) 23.56.16 # you could create a better device by using the same hardware only adding a better cpu for a better screen 23.56.20 # they9* 23.56.22 # oops 23.56.25 # lol 23.56.51 # <[Saint]> But, why would you? WHy add a "better" SoC, when you only need to care for your own requirements? 23.57.02 # <[Saint]> They don't care what we might want to do with the hardware. 23.57.06 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 29.0/20140421221237]) 23.57.10 # true 23.57.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.57.22 # but why to remove the ram to 88 kb -_- 23.57.33 # that is pathetic 23.57.45 # <[Saint]> Because evidently, that is all they require. 23.57.49 # <[Saint]> Why have more? 23.57.59 # for rockbox of course 23.58.11 # <[Saint]> ...which they don;t give a flying fuck about. :) 23.58.15 # rockbox needs to eat less 23.58.20 # ram 23.58.22 # :) 23.58.33 # <[Saint]> Source is open. Start cooking. 23.58.43 # i don't even know how to code 23.58.45 # xD