--- Log for 09.05.114 Server: barjavel.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 13 days and 16 hours ago 00.02.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.11.09 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 00.12.12 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 00.15.42 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.28.28 Quit ender` (Quit: Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. -- Neil deGrasse Tyson) 00.55.52 Quit bcobco (Remote host closed the connection) 00.56.18 Join bcobco [0] (~bcobco@77.225.204.119) 01.36.49 Quit pystar89 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 01.40.35 Join Misanthropos [0] (~Misanthro@frnk-4d01c3e9.pool.mediaWays.net) 01.52.37 Quit bcobco () 02.02.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.09.37 Quit Misanthropos (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 02.15.23 Quit synergst` (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 02.18.20 Join Misanthropos [0] (~Misanthro@frnk-4d01c3e9.pool.mediaWays.net) 02.22.10 Join Synergist [0] (~synfn@node1.customhost.org.uk) 02.22.14 Quit Synergist (Changing host) 02.22.14 Join Synergist [0] (~synfn@unaffiliated/synergist) 02.59.59 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 03.00.54 Quit Scromple (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.05.02 Quit Misanthropos (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03.08.40 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@161.43.73.67) 03.35.57 Join pystar89 [0] (~pystar89@ip-95-223-21-209.unitymediagroup.de) 03.36.44 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-222-149.mcn.bellsouth.net) 04.02.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.45.15 Join CaptainKewl [0] (~captainke@207-237-110-248.c3-0.nyr-ubr2.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 04.53.38 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 04.54.47 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 04.58.15 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.58.15 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.58.16 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.58.16 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.58.18 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.58.21 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.13.56 Quit pystar89 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 05.27.13 Quit Scromple (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.30.39 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@161.43.73.67) 05.40.37 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 05.42.43 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.51.01 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 05.52.04 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 06.02.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.05.40 Quit Scromple (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.32.33 Join Misanthropos [0] (~Misanthro@frnk-4d01d19c.pool.mediaWays.net) 06.35.15 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 06.39.13 Quit zoktar (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 06.45.53 Quit tertu (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 06.46.23 Quit Misanthropos (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 06.49.47 Quit CaptainKewl (Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )) 06.58.58 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 07.13.25 Join pystar89 [0] (~pystar89@ip-95-223-21-209.unitymediagroup.de) 07.25.38 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 07.31.58 Quit ygrek (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 07.45.02 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@161.43.73.67) 07.51.59 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@avm-guido.avm.de) 07.52.00 Quit kugel (Changing host) 07.52.00 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 08.02.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.12.10 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.15.57 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 08.15.57 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 08.16.15 Join tertu [0] (~tertu@143.44.70.199) 08.16.40 # pamaury: I sent you an email with my postal address again 08.17.01 # copper: thanks 08.27.28 Quit tertu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.27.40 Join tertu [0] (~tertu@143.44.70.199) 08.30.27 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p57B54861.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 08.32.08 Quit tertu (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 08.33.31 Quit ygrek (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.33.34 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 08.45.06 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 08.55.40 Join Scr0mple [0] (~Simon@161.43.73.67) 08.57.17 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.57.54 Quit Scromple (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.09.09 Join petur [0] (5bb7304d@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.12.14 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 09.21.22 Join bcobco [0] (~bcobco@77.225.204.119) 09.24.53 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 09.26.58 Join max242 [0] (87f5e004@gateway/web/freenode/ip.135.245.224.4) 09.27.57 # i might have another case when rockbox corrupts the filesystem on my sansa fuze+ 09.28.03 Quit [Saint] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.28.13 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 09.29.28 # i frequently copy files over from my NAS onto the fuze+, at the same time using foobar to define the replaygain, or another application like mp3tag to correct mp3 tags 09.30.03 # i was doing this during the morning, and the fuze+ file system got corrupted again! 09.30.29 # seems like rockbox is not happy trying to handle multiple usb events at the same time ... 09.31.14 # your thoughts on this will be appreciated 09.31.46 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 09.32.40 # i'll read your comments later, i have some real work to do now :-) 09.32.42 # max242: did the device got disconnected or did you properly eject it ? 09.33.12 # pamaury: no disconnect events, i properly ejected it 09.33.47 # hum, this will be hard to debug 09.35.02 # well, i think i should change my usage pattern then, and hope the fat corruption doesn't happen again 09.35.32 # it would be better to understand the problem 09.35.51 # so what seems to corrupt the data is that your read and write many things at the same time ? 09.35.56 # well, i described what i did, you can try it yourself 09.36.03 # yes indeed 09.36.11 # 19:27:49 UTC the last time i did update rockbox was during the christmas period 2013, any chance to find a rockbox version that old on the web besides building it myself? 09.36.19 # I can make you one if you want 09.36.45 # @copper: yes, i am interested 09.36.55 Quit ygrek (Remote host closed the connection) 09.37.04 # ok, let me look at the git log 09.38.09 # max242: first I'll make you a recent build prior pamaury's imx233 commits, if that's OK 09.38.23 # max242: so the bug did not exist before ? 09.38.58 # yes, i remember having seen this during 2013 already 09.39.11 # but never really reported this here on irc 09.39.19 # wait, so it DID exist before? 09.39.32 # well, i'm pretty sure about it 09.39.58 # when though 09.40.21 # i don't remember that 09.40.21 # because you said you updated in christmas 2013 09.40.37 # so there is no point in trying an older build, it will fail too 09.40.51 # well, that was the last time i did an update 09.41.12 # that doesn't tell us what period might be bug free for your case 09.41.20 # @pamaury: agreed 09.41.51 # maybe i just changed my usage pattern over the years 09.42.01 # max242: have you tried take the sd card out and copying stuff on it with an SD card adapter, directly on your computer? 09.42.19 # tried taking* 09.42.30 # @copper: i'm talking about the 'internal-sd', or how do you name that? 09.42.37 # ah, internal storage 09.42.58 # yes indeed 09.43.07 # but the same happens to external sd 09.43.36 # copy over using and SD card adapter on the laptop works fine, and doesn't render the filesystem corrupt 09.43.40 # are you ever experiencing corrupted files on your PC too? 09.43.47 # no, not at all 09.44.08 # i don't think it is a laptop/hardware issue 09.44.15 # too bad, it could have been simple RAM bitflip 09.44.59 # well, you have some food for thought now, i'm going back to work! 09.45.19 # i'll hang around when time permits during the forthcoming days 09.46.47 Part max242 09.54.14 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 10.00.47 Quit ygrek (Remote host closed the connection) 10.01.05 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 10.02.01 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 10.03.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.03.27 Quit ygrek (Remote host closed the connection) 10.42.40 # grml, where is wodz? 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17.19.28 # Probably no, but which device? 17.20.50 # Phillips GoGear 17.21.26 # there is a correctly working feature that allows me to boot the original firmware 17.21.43 # but only on request, not by default 17.22.26 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/GoGearHDD6330 being the relevant wiki page 17.23.08 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 17.23.15 # If you don't like rockbox to the point of making it the default OS, don't go for it ;) 17.23.53 # the default OS insists on doing PTP file transfers 17.24.06 # also.. it's not exactly mine :) 17.24.23 # so I'd prefer having rockbox as a hidden feature 17.24.37 Quit user890104 (Quit: .) 17.25.11 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@unaffiliated/user890104) 17.45.48 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17.46.34 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 17.47.59 # MMlosh: unfortunately, changing this behaviour requires to recompile and change the bootloader 17.50.37 Quit kuldeepdhaka (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18.03.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.11.28 Quit teythoon (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18.14.19 Quit pretty_function (Remote host closed the connection) 18.17.21 Join RiD [0] (~RiD@2.83.36.146) 18.24.17 Quit kugel (Quit: Lost terminal) 18.38.17 # pamaury, OK 18.38.33 # I guess it makes sense, that I can invert the condition in the source code and recompile 18.38.41 # fortunately, the owner likes rockbox! :) 18.40.20 # for some reason the database doesn't save 18.40.56 # and KDE on his computer insists on using the HID connection mode instead of mass storage 18.41.18 Quit bcobco (Remote host closed the connection) 18.41.41 Join bcobco [0] (~bcobco@77.225.204.119) 18.41.44 # is it OK to workaround the latter by using UMS mode for filetransfer instead? 18.52.34 Join teythoon [0] (~teythoon@mail.jade-hamburg.de) 19.02.01 Quit teythoon (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.02.47 Join teythoon [0] (~teythoon@mail.jade-hamburg.de) 19.07.52 Quit bcobco (Remote host closed the connection) 19.08.15 Join bcobco [0] (~bcobco@77.225.204.119) 19.09.23 Quit teythoon (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 19.18.23 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 19.22.49 Quit pystar89 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 19.30.14 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 19.30.14 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 19.30.14 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.30.57 Join teythoon [0] (~teythoon@mail.jade-hamburg.de) 19.38.18 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.212.242) 19.39.55 # MMlosh: you can disable HID mode, so that only UMS mode is exposed to the host 19.43.56 Quit Galois (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.44.56 Quit ygrek (Remote host closed the connection) 19.45.28 Quit RiD (Quit: A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.) 19.45.54 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 19.47.56 Quit ygrek (Remote host closed the connection) 19.49.16 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 19.55.58 # pamaury, well.. no matter what I choose for the HID mode 19.56.13 # the actual results in the KDE environment doesn't seem to be correlated 19.57.04 # (I have seen all four combinations of HID=yes|no and mass_storage|hid) 19.57.06 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 19.58.48 # then the bug is not related to HID 19.59.57 Quit ygrek (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.00.36 Quit Scall (Remote host closed the connection) 20.03.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.03.22 # KDE actually always sees HID 20.03.33 # sometimes it sees both, sometimes only HID 20.03.51 # I assume rockbox never exposes both at once, which would mean a bug in KDE 20.03.52 # right? 20.08.29 # it does, it can expose HID + UMS or UMS (and maybe just HID but I'm not sure) 20.09.26 # We do just HID (but a toothless one that doesn't do much) for charging only 20.12.58 # aha.. 20.13.04 # I did wonder what does it actually do 20.13.39 # which is quite funny, since the gogear device was shipped with an Y cable with both USB and a wall wart 20.13.53 # which probably means it cannot charge from usb I guess 20.15.18 # If I understand correctly what kind of cable you mean, it should mean it can 20.16.51 # one end goes into the gogear device 20.16.56 # from that two wires branch off 20.17.00 # one ends in an usb plug 20.17.13 # other one ends in a wall adapter (non-removable) 20.21.22 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 20.21.28 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 20.24.49 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 20.25.04 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 20.26.50 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g226070248.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.32.44 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 20.33.27 Quit teythoon (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 20.35.25 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 20.35.55 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. 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