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(~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 09.43.41 Quit kugel_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 09.51.13 Quit ygrek (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 09.52.02 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 10.04.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.11.13 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 10.37.02 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 10.38.01 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 10.44.36 # <[Saint]> [7]: What would be the cause of a hissing sound that gradually increases in volume to a steady level from boot time until the first time you commence playback? 10.44.49 # <[Saint]> What would be initialized after playback, but not before? 10.45.06 # <[Saint]> (or possibly vice versa?) 10.45.33 # <[Saint]> copper: I believe you reported this once as well, no? 10.45.55 # yup 10.46.33 # <[Saint]> I have it with the new black 80GB Classic "fat" I got. 10.47.07 # <[Saint]> Its like the hardware isn't set up correctly until playback is started. 10.47.25 # <[Saint]> (he says, knowing absolutely nothing of the low level hardware) 10.48.03 # <[Saint]> The only people I know of who might have an idea about this is [7] and user890104 10.48.23 # I can't be sure, but I didn't hear it with the SD card adapter 10.48.39 # possibly because Rockbox loaded a lot faster 10.48.47 # er 10.48.51 # scratch that, I can't remember 10.50.24 # <[Saint]> I read the backlog over at #freemyipod-support 10.51.32 # <[Saint]> bummer man 10.51.32 # <[Saint]> That really sucks. 10.51.32 # [Saint]: btw, to sum up, my SD-CF adapter for the iPod doesn't like my 128 GB SDXC card 10.51.32 # eh 10.51.32 # * [Saint] nods 10.51.33 # basically the guy says it works because with the OF, it does work 10.51.33 DBUG Enqueued KICK copper 10.51.33 # and the OF uses a partition 10.51.33 # <[Saint]> I read you were just going to suck it up and get a ZIF 3.3V SSD? 10.51.33 # but his adapter likely has a bug 10.51.37 # yeah 10.51.41 # whenever I have the funds 10.52.01 # thing is, I can read and write to sector 0 on that card from my computer 10.52.09 # so, I don't know 10.52.13 # <[Saint]> I was lucky when I first SSDified an iPod Classic, someone left a 64GB SSD on my desk at the hackerspace. 10.52.15 # point is, I can't trust his adapter 10.52.32 # <[Saint]> I put a sign up for like a week or more "is this your SSD?!?", but, no one claimed it. 10.52.41 # <[Saint]> So, score. 10.53.01 # I wanted to buy the SSD initially, but I figured that an A-DATA SSD might not be much more reliable that the adapter and a branded SDXC card 11.03.16 # I took a gamble and I lost 11.03.16 # vOv 11.03.16 # <[Saint]> The adapters add a whole world of the unknown, sadly. 11.03.16 # I managed to run Rockbox with my 32 GB SDHC card, and indeed it's super reactive 11.03.17 # so much better than the HDD 11.03.17 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 11.03.17 # * [Saint] nods 11.03.17 # now I just have to wait 11.03.17 # <[Saint]> and lighter. 11.03.17 *** Alert Mode level 1 11.03.17 # I'm copying music on the microsdxc card that pamaury shipped back and I'm going to use it on my phone 11.03.17 # <[Saint]> You'll be able to flick off the adapter to some other head-fi-er or hydrogenaudio-er. 11.03.17 DBUG Enqueued KICK [Saint] 11.03.17 # <[Saint]> No? 11.03.17 *** Alert Mode level 2 11.03.17 # nah I'm gonna give it to TheSeven 11.03.17 # <[Saint]> AH, right. 11.03.17 *** Alert Mode level 3 11.03.17 # the price doesn't make it worth selling back 11.03.18 *** Alert Mode level 4 11.03.18 # I'm selling my 128 GB card on ebay though 11.03.18 *** Alert Mode level 5 11.03.18 # <[Saint]> Also - yes, solid state iPods are very quick. And with the increased battery capacity (if you got a bigger battery - which I know you didn't personally), and the reduced battery usage, they are very performant. 11.03.19 *** Alert Mode level 6 11.03.19 # <[Saint]> My builds have a few other tweaks, like a slight underclock, and no UI-boosting. 11.03.19 *** Alert Mode level 7 11.03.19 # <[Saint]> (UI boost is irrelevant on the Classic IMO) 11.03.19 *** Alert Mode level 8 11.03.19 # isn't it useful for scrolling? 11.03.19 *** Alert Mode level 9 11.03.19 # scrolling metadata 11.03.19 *** Alert Mode level 10 11.03.19 # <[Saint]> Its needed on the PP iPods but not the N2G or Classic. 11.03.19 *** Alert Mode level 11 11.03.19 # <[Saint]> Nah, its not needed for scrolling at all. 11.03.19 *** Alert Mode level 12 11.03.19 # <[Saint]> My builds even have a slightly lower minimum clock, and don't boost on UI interaction, and scrolling is fine. 11.03.20 *** Alert Mode level 13 11.03.20 # <[Saint]> (48MHz vs. 54MHz) 11.03.20 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.03.20 *** Alert Mode level 14 11.03.20 # pamaury: I received the package, thanks 11.03.20 # good 11.03.20 *** Alert Mode level 15 11.03.20 # you shipped the wrong SD adapter though 11.03.20 *** Alert Mode level 16 11.03.20 # you're so flaky :D 11.03.20 *** Alert Mode level 17 11.03.20 # <[Saint]> dircache makes scrolling quick 11.03.20 *** Alert Mode level 18 11.03.20 # <[Saint]> but you can turn dircache off with a solid state disk 11.03.20 # copper: really ? I was so absolutely sure it was yours :-/ 11.03.20 *** Alert Mode level 19 11.03.20 # <[Saint]> as access is essentially free, and fast. 11.03.20 *** Alert Mode level 20 11.03.20 # you shipped an unbranded one 11.03.20 *** Alert Mode level 21 11.03.20 # mine is red, branded SanDisk, like the microsdxc card 11.03.20 # damn, 11.03.20 *** Alert Mode level 22 11.03.20 # no biggie, the adpater seems to be working 11.03.21 DBUG Enqueued KICK pamaury 11.03.21 # ok, if you have any problem I'll send you yours then 11.03.21 # (if I find it because I have tons of sandisk's one) 11.03.21 *** Alert Mode level 23 11.03.21 # <[Saint]> I'm sure they perform the exact same function. :) 11.03.21 *** Alert Mode level 24 11.03.21 # yeah I figured you must have a ton of those :) 11.03.21 *** Alert Mode level 25 11.03.21 # <[Saint]> They breed. 11.03.21 *** Alert Mode level 26 11.03.21 # <[Saint]> The ones that go ferral are preyed upon by wild USB cables. 11.13.22 *** Alert Mode OFF 11.14.49 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 11.27.40 Quit wodz (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.33.19 # <[Saint]> whoops - ok, can't really undercolt it seems. 11.33.58 # <[Saint]> can't really undervolt either. 11.48.38 Quit us^0gb (Quit: http://0gb.us/) 11.54.10 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 11.55.03 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 12.04.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.48.16 Quit ygrek (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 12.50.54 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 12.56.10 # pamaury: I was thinking about gdb-over-hwstub thing. In order to be useful hwstub needs to be able to read gprs (easy), set PC to arbitrary address aka jump (is it supported already?) and set breakpoint. The last one can be problematic. We could patch undef_instr or swi vectors to jump back to hwstub but I can't understand how this is reported back to gdb 12.57.06 # ah and rd/rw memory obviously but this is supported by hwstub already 13.00.53 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 13.12.17 # wodz: you could poll or use an interrupt endpoint, but anyhow, I do you make sure the running doesn't interfere or even overwrite hwstub ? 13.12.50 # because current you can jump but it is expected that the running code will just never return and most probably overwrite hwstu 13.12.51 # b 13.17.30 Quit arubi (Quit: Leaving) 13.18.40 Quit mortalis (Quit: KVIrc 4.3.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) 13.19.26 # well, you have to take care of this yourself. There is no way to secure hwstub in mem 13.21.28 # and it's also very tricky because it means you then have to intercept undef or swi interrupt handler 13.21.34 # and rely on the code not to touch usb 13.22.36 # yes, I know the limitations of this approach 13.24.32 # anyway, if you don't want to implement interrupt transfers, best way is probably polling 13.26.30 # Looking at gdb serial protocol it seems that it must use polling. 'The client issues packets which are requests for information or action. Depending on the nature of the client packet, the server may respond with a packet of its own. ' where client is gdb and server is the stub 13.28.12 # also it means hwstub must be entirely interrupt drive (possibly using a timer for tick task) 13.28.17 # *driven 13.38.42 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9EE9791.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 13.46.07 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 13.49.59 Quit kugel (Quit: leaving) 13.50.39 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@212.42.239.93) 13.50.39 Quit kugel (Changing host) 13.50.39 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 13.59.26 Join Rower [0] (~husvagn@h176n2-aeg-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com) 14.04.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.11.57 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 14.36.12 # pamaury: how does interrupt transfers work? 14.36.20 # just like bulk 14.36.34 # the device set up a transfer and in fact the host is polling 14.37.25 # ok so not that much different 14.38.52 # ok, now assume we have stub which sets breakpoint and jumps to other program. It runs for prolonged time until breakpoint is hit. The host polls the status but as long as we are back in hwstub it will get no response. Will it work? 14.39.32 Quit ygrek (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.39.36 # I mean doesn't usb or libusb give up after some timeout considering device dead? 14.40.46 # wodz: what does "no response" mean? No data (i.e. NAK on the bus)? If so, that's fine 14.41.07 # gevaerts: I mean nothing at all from device side 14.41.42 # That's not going to work well 14.42.32 # so I would need to intercept usb irq then 14.43.48 # That's going to depend on the usb hardware I think. I mean, if the endpoints are set up properly, at least some of them will NAK stuff without bothering you 14.44.10 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 14.45.42 # right, NAKing everything until breakpoint is hit would be nice 14.52.52 Quit kugel (Quit: leaving) 14.53.10 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@212.42.239.93) 14.53.10 Quit kugel (Changing host) 14.53.10 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 14.53.21 Quit kugel (Client Quit) 14.53.34 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@212.42.239.93) 14.53.35 Quit kugel (Changing host) 14.53.35 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 14.54.23 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 15.06.17 # wodz: no issue there, libusb for interrupt can wait for an arbitrary long time, you just need to setup the endpoint and NAK properly. 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17.47.36 Join Misanthropos [0] (~Misanthro@frnk-4d010e90.pool.mediaWays.net) 17.51.13 Join us`0gb [0] (~0gb.us@c-71-237-219-28.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 18.04.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.36.36 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@cl-1037.haa-01.nl.sixxs.net) 18.36.36 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 18.36.36 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.42.11 Join Narod [0] (Narod@p5DDDA2CA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.46.56 Quit Misanthropos (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.54.36 # 08:07:11 UTC * TheSeven wonders why people still use anything but phones for this purpose anyway ;) 18.55.02 # I took a walk in the city and I used my 5" smartphone as a DAP 18.55.12 # turns out it's awfully inconvenient 18.55.25 # it's too big for my jeans front pockets 18.55.56 # I could put it in my jeans back pocket, but I'd be worried about dropping it, getting it ripped off me, or simply sitting on it 18.56.09 # so I had to put it in my back pack 18.56.40 # but then to access it, change volume or skip a track, I have to open my backpack pocket, open the phone's cover, press power 18.56.46 # waaaay too much fiddling 18.57.10 # whereas I can put my Fuze+ in my front pocket, access it fast enough and not worry about it 18.57.29 # (I live in a hot region) 18.57.47 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-178-161.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 18.57.52 # even the iPod Classic is more convenient than my smartphone for that 18.58.00 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 4 seconds at the last flood 18.58.00 # * GodEater uses his pebble to do all that with his phone 18.58.12 # no need to take it out of a pocket / backpack / locked safe :D 18.58.23 # there's still the problem of the headphone cable 18.58.38 # my backpack has a headphone cable hole... 18.58.40 # having it tethered to my back pack is very inconvenient 18.58.49 # but also, bluetooth headphones 18.58.51 # :D 18.59.00 # fuck bluetooth 18.59.22 # that limits your choice in headphones / IEMs 19.00.51 # the big downside with using a DAP, as opposed to a phone, is that I don't hear my phone rining 19.00.54 # ringing* 19.01.35 # smartphones are getting bigger, and more akin to portable computers than DAPs 19.01.49 # even my 4.65" galaxy nexus tore a hole in my jeans 19.01.59 # a big fat hole 19.02.16 # not right away, but from friction over a year 19.03.32 # remember when phones got smaller and smaller? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vurEe3-xgNw :) 19.03.36 # oh, and if I want to switch to a different album on the phone, I first need to unlock my phone 19.03.42 # draw a pattern 19.03.54 # and load the app 19.03.55 # etc 19.03.59 # how annoying. 19.06.21 # yes! 19.26.07 Join Misanthropos [0] (~Misanthro@frnk-4d010e90.pool.mediaWays.net) 19.28.05 # my Nexus 5 sits in the front pocket of my jeans just fine. Clearly you need larger jeans. 19.37.46 # GodEater: the jeans that got punctured were large 19.38.22 # well what can I say? That's not happened to me =/ 19.38.34 # one of the corners of the phone would stick out and cause friction against the fabric as I would walk 19.38.54 # and, large pants are no longer fashionable :P 19.41.22 # I can hardly even find them in stores these days 19.41.36 # more often than not, the largest cut available is "regular" 19.41.41 # which is what I'm wearing now 19.42.30 # previously I was wearing the "relaxed" cut 19.42.46 # really? 19.42.57 # hmm. The Replay store always has something I find "relaxed" 19.42.59 # over here anyway 19.43.26 # every fashionable young male is wearing those filthy "slim" cuts 19.43.35 # like it's the 80s all over again 19.43.43 # hahaha 19.43.51 # same here 19.43.58 # but I can still find jeans which fit 19.45.42 # these days, everyone here does use their large smartphone for music, and they hold it in their hand at all times 19.46.06 # but I would be too afraid to drop it or get it snatched by some guy with an accomplice on a scooter 19.46.14 # not to mention that I like to have my hands free 19.48.09 # smartphones are probably the single most stolen item these days 20.05.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.13.19 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@c-68-43-2-35.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 20.13.19 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 20.13.19 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 20.20.16 Quit bzed (Remote host closed the connection) 20.20.22 Join bzed [0] (~bzed@devel.recluse.de) 20.26.39 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.28.17 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 20.28.46 Quit bluebrother^ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 20.30.06 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 20.32.22 Join invalid1 [0] (~malte@2a02:8109:8400:12fc:c36:4908:48ff:2743) 20.39.18 # ahoy, does anyone have information on randomly corrupted (large) files on rockboxed ipod 5.5g? 20.42.46 # invalid1: right after transfering those files from your PC? 20.44.02 # yes. i copy something, reread it with dd circumventing the file cache and pipe the result to cmp. 20.45.03 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@f053155177.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.46.07 # like so: cp foo /media/ROCKBOX && dd if=/media/ROCKBOX/foo bs=$((8<<20)) iflag=direct | cmp foo - 20.46.51 Join RiD [0] (Ghost@2.83.29.29) 20.47.08 # that only happens with your iPod? 20.47.31 # yes. other usb media are generally fine. 20.47.40 # try "cmp -b | wc -l" 20.47.46 # to see how many differences there are 20.48.00 # if it's only one or two, it could be your RAM (bitflip error) 20.48.07 # if it's a whole bunch, then I don't know 20.49.04 # good idea. let's see... 20.50.36 # only one differing line: 20.50.45 # foo - differ: byte 72988801, line 284476 is 163 s 175 } 20.51.04 # ok 20.51.36 # before trying to debug the iPod, you should run http://www.memtest.org/ over night 20.51.43 # unless someone else has a better idea 20.51.58 # RAM errors are not as uncommon as one may think 20.53.04 # and they cause precisely that sort of file corruption 20.53.17 # silently 20.53.35 # programs like cp don't detect any error 20.53.42 # ok, i'll do that, but seeing that i've been having this problem for years and i've successfully run memtest (on my PC) in the mean time, i don't have high hopes for that cause of problem. 20.53.46 # sometimes even cmp won't detect it 20.54.27 # invalid1: better do it anyway just to make sure 20.54.48 # because if it's not that, I kinda get the feeling it's going to be tough to diagnose 20.56.02 # yep. i know. is there a RAM test for ipod/rockbox? 20.56.23 # good question! 20.56.31 # that would be an awesome plugin 20.57.02 # that's probably better implemented as boot stage program. 20.57.13 # like memtest86 20.57.18 # test_mem.rock 20.57.22 Join trampel [0] (~trampel@c-24-22-235-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 20.57.38 # wow... good find 20.57.45 # Plugins -> Applications -> test_mem 20.57.56 # erm 20.58.02 # I'm not sure that tests for integrity 20.58.16 # it only displays throughput and latency 21.03.57 Quit Misanthropos (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 21.08.10 # mh... "cmp -b" was wrong. "cmp -lb" makes more sense. 21.08.54 # now i have a long consecutive range of differing bytes 21.09.35 Quit Rower (Quit: Hmmm...) 21.10.21 # Any pattern? 21.14.25 # dunno. i stopped after ~20MB of consecutive errors and recopied everything from the first error on. 21.17.09 # I assume you've ruled out plain old filesystem corruption? 21.17.18 # yes 21.17.34 # i tested that before i wrote here 21.18.38 # I haven't seen anything like that. I know that back in the day when we started developing the USB driver there was corruption on the Sansa players (which use the same chip inside), but that was then shown to be a problem with the SD driver in those, not USB 21.20.07 # Getting errors after several tens of megabytes seems to rule out a RAM issue on the ipod, since we use the same buffer (128K in total) repeatedly for the entire transfer, so if it were that I'd expect problems earlier 21.20.37 # Have you tried this with the emergency disk mode or the original firmware? 21.21.03 # no. i converted immediately after buying it. 21.21.26 # emergency mode might be worth a try 21.21.38 # * gevaerts nods 21.22.14 # that would rule out faulty hardware and firmware 21.22.29 # Yes 21.22.31 # *chipset firmware 21.22.50 # Personally I'd of course prefer a hardware issue :) 21.23.03 # ^.^ 21.23.17 # It could be my bug otherwise! 21.25.40 # reading from ipod doesn't seem to be corrupted. i compared the file repeatedly and successfully without file cache. 21.27.46 Join ygrek_ [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 21.34.26 Join xza23 [0] (4fb4b8a5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.180.184.165) 21.35.38 Quit rela (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.36.35 # Hi. I'd like to know if it is possible that "rockbox" will read a podcast file and play with bookmarks like the stock firmware that came with my device sansa clip zip 21.36.47 # play it 21.44.47 Quit xza23 (Quit: Page closed) 21.56.53 Quit trampel (Quit: Leaving) 22.03.55 Quit MMlosh (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.04.29 # "This thread made me appreciate my aging 5.5g machine all over again. The Rockbox firmware really made the audio of this unit come alive. It sounded fairly mediocre with Apple Firmware. I never would have imagined that there could be a difference, but the change is not subtle." 22.04.43 # not subtle! 22.05.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.05.19 # thanks to the magic Rockbox fairies 22.05.50 # i just purchased an inexpensive android phone to run rockbox on 22.06.46 # to replace my ipod video of considerable age 22.06.56 # cheap phone and 64 gig microsd 22.07.31 # see the logs about the smartphone conversation earlier :) 22.08.22 # hope your trousers are baggy. 22.08.29 # :P 22.08.32 Quit ygrek_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.16.28 Join MMlosh [0] (~MMlosh@2001:470:6f:23:e5c8:4d3a:d04c:ea18) 22.17.34 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 22.36.06 Quit pamaury (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 22.37.16 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 22.46.17 Quit pamaury (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 22.47.26 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 22.52.41 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 23.00.56 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.01.11 Quit MMlosh (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.04.44 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 23.13.45 Join MMlosh [0] (~MMlosh@2001:470:6f:23:38fd:a0b2:1ab2:c26e) 23.18.36 Join ygrek_ [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 23.22.09 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 23.22.20 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 23.25.28 Quit Narod () 23.47.22 Join lowons2 [0] (~lowons2@host86-161-46-246.range86-161.btcentralplus.com) 23.50.29 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@91-64-117-207-dynip.superkabel.de) 23.50.29 Quit kugel (Changing host) 23.50.29 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 23.54.31 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 30.0/20140512231802])