--- Log for 17.05.114 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 19 hours ago 00.00.55 Quit y4n (Quit: We're fucking 3LN!) 00.05.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.07.52 Quit ygrek_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.09.51 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.14.31 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00.18.46 Quit ender` (Quit: Debian comes in three flavours: stale, rusting and broken.) 00.22.01 Join Misanthropos [0] (~Misanthro@frnk-4d010e90.pool.mediaWays.net) 00.28.05 Quit lowons2 (Remote host closed the connection) 00.35.24 Quit ranmachan (*.net *.split) 00.35.26 Quit yosafbridge (*.net *.split) 00.35.26 Quit tweek_ (*.net *.split) 00.35.27 Quit Kohlrabi (*.net *.split) 00.35.27 Quit alexbobp (*.net *.split) 00.35.41 Quit Cultist (*.net *.split) 00.35.41 Quit K1773R (*.net *.split) 00.35.43 Quit funman (*.net *.split) 00.35.43 Quit Bluefoxicy (*.net *.split) 00.35.45 Quit michaelni (*.net *.split) 00.35.45 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06.36.44 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 06.37.48 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.01.07 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 08.05.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.29.44 # guys, 3.14 needs to come out 08.29.53 # what's the hold up? 08.30.31 # though it'd be nice to fix the %?if() thing before the release 08.35.14 # <[Saint]> I don't see any reason to do a release other than some form of "last hoorah". 08.35.37 # ? 08.36.04 # <[Saint]> Most people are acutely aware that the dev builds are perfectly usable for almost every target. 08.36.14 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-178-161.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 08.36.27 # <[Saint]> A release would be good to do a a wrap up, but that's about it really. 08.37.15 # <[Saint]> It would be nice to do it just before some of the older targets are retired. 08.37.24 # <[Saint]> Give them one last release. 08.38.02 # actually a lot of people are running "the last stable release" 08.38.35 # <[Saint]> Given that you don't have numbers just as I don't, I'll just shrug and nod. 08.40.01 # just people on ABI and Head-Fi, and those are the more adventurous type 08.43.54 # <[Saint]> Most of them are also clearly insane - so I'm not sure that's a great data point. ;) 08.44.28 # <[Saint]> I was reading the backlog regarding DAP vs. smartphone, and I have a question for you: 08.44.33 # actually, on hydrogenaudio too 08.44.41 # <[Saint]> What the fuck do you do with your phone normally, when not using it as a DAP? 08.44.51 # ? 08.44.54 # what do you think? 08.44.55 # <[Saint]> If its so awkward to transport. 08.45.21 # obviously I make some calls, but mostly I use it as a portable internet device 08.45.28 # <[Saint]> Surely you take it with you when you're not using it as a DAP also? 08.45.34 # yes 08.45.39 # <[Saint]> Errr, I think that was taken too literally. 08.45.49 # ? 08.45.52 Join Rower [0] (~husvagn@h176n2-aeg-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com) 08.46.13 # <[Saint]> I'm meaning, if you're saying its awkward to use as a DAP - isn;t it just as awkward to use as a smartphone? 08.46.28 # no, because I don't use my smartphone while walking 08.46.50 # <[Saint]> What happens if you get a call or SMS? Stop and unpack? 08.47.07 # <[Saint]> ...I guess you wouldn;t even notice it. 08.47.19 # <[Saint]> I couldn't do that. 08.47.26 # couldn't do what? 08.47.49 # <[Saint]> If I didn't have my phone readily accessible I'd be missing calls left right and center. 08.48.06 # it is accessible 08.48.21 # but I don't spend much time on phone calls 08.48.28 # <[Saint]> Then surely its accessible for use as a DAP, I don't seem to be getting the point. 08.48.41 # <[Saint]> But apparently I'm not the only one, so there's that. 08.49.17 # when used as a DAP, my IEMs are tethered to the backpack, which is very inconvenient (and dangerous) 08.50.13 # <[Saint]> Also - what FW makes you unlock the device to skip tracks or change the volume? 08.50.26 # <[Saint]> Mine surely doesn't. 08.50.31 # I didn't say it did that 08.50.43 # I said I needed to unlock the phone to select a different album 08.51.14 # when I use a DAP, I'm gonna press pause and play a few times when going to a store or needing to talk to someone 08.51.37 # I don't get nearly as many calls as the number of times I have to talk to some real live person in front of me 08.52.14 # <[Saint]> pause and play is accessible from the notification pulldown - which when audio is playing - is accessible from the lock screen for me. 08.52.21 # so, when I have my smartphone and I'm not using it as a DAP, I don't have to fiddle with it nearly as much 08.52.27 # yes, for me too 08.52.55 # [Saint]: anyway, where do you put your smartphone? 08.53.17 # <[Saint]> In my pocket, 24/7 when its not on my desk or bedside cabinet. 08.53.45 # I put it in my coat's pocket when it's not too warm to wear one 08.53.58 # but in summer, that's just not possible over here 08.54.48 # <[Saint]> This is sliding well off topic - but meh - almost every pair of pants I have fits a 6" phone. 08.55.26 # like I said, my phone would fit in my jeans pocket, but it tore a hole 08.55.29 # <[Saint]> All of my dress pants fit it easily, most of them the phone can sit in the change pocket too (not the tiny change pocket - the one that's sometimes inside another pocket) 08.56.21 # and I find it very uncomfortable too 08.56.31 # <[Saint]> With most of them I can still use the proximity sensor when its in my pocket too, which is a bonus. 08.56.35 # having a big rectangular object in my front jeans pocket 08.56.49 # * [Saint] is used to having a large object in his pants. 08.57.07 # well I only have room for ONE large object in there! 08.58.21 # like I said, most people here keep their smartphone in their hand 08.58.33 # because they're just too damn big and fiddly 08.59.08 # <[Saint]> I thought it was more similar to baboons and their bright red asses. A form of posturing. 08.59.20 # eh, perhaps 08.59.29 # <[Saint]> I always assumed those people could put them away if they wanted to. 08.59.45 # not with what they're wearing, no 09.00.07 # the ideal location for me in the inside jacket pocket 09.00.16 # but it's already too hot to wear a jacket 09.01.18 # <[Saint]> You need a Pebble, or the Oppo N1's cute little button thingy. 09.01.35 # <[Saint]> Spending large amounts of money always temporarily fixes problems you don't have. 09.02.21 # doesn't help with the IEM chord 09.02.54 # and I already have a nice watch 09.04.39 # <[Saint]> You seem to have a perfectly annoying use case. 09.04.47 # <[Saint]> Just on the very edge of convenience. 09.05.50 # <[Saint]> I _thought_ I would have all these issues as phones got larger and larger, but they seem fairly stable around the 4.5~6" mark which I'm finding tolerable still. 09.06.20 # the phone that tore a hole in my jeans was 4.65" 09.25.00 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p3E9E6FC1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 09.29.32 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 09.32.06 # [Saint]: I guess I could use a bluetooth receiver, but last time I tried one of those (2009), I could hear bad lossy artifacts 09.32.21 # dunno what bluetooth codecs my phone supports 09.32.31 # <[Saint]> Ancient BT tech sucked. 09.32.45 # <[Saint]> BT uses less power and has much higher throughput these days. 09.33.31 Quit us`0gb (Quit: http://0gb.us/) 09.33.52 # SBC is still standard though 09.34.55 # hmmm 09.34.56 # http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/smart-bluetooth-handset-sbh52/ 09.37.08 # no word on supported codecs, but it's designed for my phone (if that means anything) 09.49.09 Quit funman (Changing host) 09.49.09 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 09.54.50 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 10.00.34 # oh, my Xperia Z1 supports apt-X 10.05.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.11.32 # and stupidly enough, the Sony BT receivers do NOT support apt-X 10.16.20 Nick SuperBrainAK is now known as DormantBrain (~andy@74.112.200.73) 10.30.55 # seems like the bluetooth market is still opaque wrt to the codecs used and sound quality 10.31.10 # they're still mostly SBC 10.31.31 # using that would mean poor lossy encoding of already lossy encoded files 10.31.58 # I can't imagine today's receivers are much better than the ones I tried in 2009 10.32.05 # SBC is still SBC 10.34.46 # <[Saint]> bluez does MPEG12/MP3 10.35.02 # <[Saint]> (bluez being the BT stack used) 10.35.27 # <[Saint]> a2dp MP3 direct stream FTW 10.36.39 # isn't bluez a linux thing? 10.36.53 # <[Saint]> which is also a... ;) 10.37.27 # what, android? 10.38.09 # <[Saint]> Yes. 10.38.58 # still doesn't tell me what those receivers support 10.39.46 # <[Saint]> Well, this is true. 10.40.40 # <[Saint]> I would imagine that anything reasonably modern, that's branded (and therefor should have no issues with licensing) should be in the "Just Works" category. 10.41.46 # <[Saint]> My BT experience with Android is solely limited to streaming between devices though so I can't really say. 10.42.19 # even brands like Sony can't be trusted with anything 10.42.20 # <[Saint]> Well, that and internet sharing. 10.45.03 # and I'm getting tired of buying stuff that doesn't work 10.46.28 # <[Saint]> BT headsets for quality audio is something I know absolutely sweet fuck all about. 10.47.39 # and they make sure you can't return the item by packaging them in such a way that you can't get to the item without tearing everything apart 11.05.06 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 11.21.37 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.27.13 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.32.31 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 12.05.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.29.57 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.31.57 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-178-161.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 12.50.34 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9EE930E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 12.59.51 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 13.06.00 # ouch 13.06.58 # HEAD data aborts when trying to play a file on the Fuze+ 13.08.06 # with my adapted Basta theme 13.09.57 # when loading either the WPS or FMS actually 13.10.07 # no time to debug now though 13.12.47 # [Saint]: Didn't android drop bluez in 4.2 for one developed by Broadcom? 13.13.25 # http://lwn.net/Articles/597293/ 13.16.57 # damn it 13.17.01 # someone broke Rockbox 13.20.33 # JdGordon: 01cbb795e9a059238f0e39d44d279c1d52874e06 don't load the same bmp image more than once in a skin 13.20.45 Quit mikroflops (Quit: <(^_^)>) 13.20.49 # that completely breaks my Basta theme 13.21.14 # and makes the classic and fuze+ data abort when entering the WPS or FMS 13.27.03 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@178.174.137.6) 13.27.10 Join JdGord [0] (~AndChat49@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 13.27.13 # ? 13.29.31 # Copper: ah crap. OK can someone revert it? I won't have time tomorrow to fix it 13.34.16 # full on crash 13.39.33 Quit zoktar (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.40.00 # Can you link the crashing wps? 13.55.59 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 13.57.52 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 14.05.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.06.49 Quit Ketturi (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8) 14.11.40 Join JdGord_ [0] (~AndChat49@pa49-183-223-80.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au) 14.13.24 Quit JdGord (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.18.33 Quit JdGord_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 14.23.45 # JdGordon: http://caudec.net/rockbox/Basta-r81.zip 14.31.01 Join invalid [0] (~malte@2a02:8109:8400:12fc:1194:6b9d:469b:87ff) 14.33.12 Quit invalid (Client Quit) 14.33.22 Join invalid [0] (~malte@2a02:8109:8400:12fc:1194:6b9d:469b:87ff) 14.35.17 # gevaerts: i checked for file corruption in emergency disk mode like you recommended yesterday: there are none. 14.36.05 # so there seems to be a bug in the usb or file system stack 14.37.43 # my uneducated guess: the code paths for block devices and file systems with non-standard block sizes aren't well tested. (ipod 5.5g has 2048 bytes per block.) 14.43.54 # invalid: do you see anything in dmesg when the problem occurs? 14.44.12 # hm... let's see 14.51.41 Quit GodEater (Quit: Coyote finally caught me) 14.53.26 # can someone revert 01cbb79 please 14.53.35 Join GodEater [0] (~whoknows@94.3.60.123) 14.53.35 Quit GodEater (Changing host) 14.53.35 Join GodEater [0] (~whoknows@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 14.54.57 # gevaerts: nope. nothing related. 14.55.49 # hmmm 14.59.32 # invalid: which rockbox build are you running? 3.13 or some recent current development build? 15.00.04 # 3.13 15.02.22 # OK. Could you try a current build? There are some known issues with the 3.13 theme engine that have interfered with proper working of USB on some other devices. I haven't heard of anything like this, but those are caused by bad memory accesses, so you never know... 15.05.34 # i'll investigate ist 15.05.36 # *it 15.37.14 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.38.01 Join kuldeepdhaka [0] (~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka) 15.39.58 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-178-161.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 15.40.11 Quit kuldeepdhaka (Max SendQ exceeded) 15.41.17 Join kuldeepdhaka [0] (~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka) 15.55.06 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 15.56.22 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 16.05.05 Join Misanthropos [0] (~Misanthro@frnk-4d00860d.pool.mediaWays.net) 16.05.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.20.09 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p3E9E6FC1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.21.44 Quit cmhobbs (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.22.02 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 16.24.42 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16.58.35 # Basta for the Fuze+ (240x320): http://caudec.net/rockbox/#Basta-FP 17.00.56 # (doesn't work with HEAD, until 01cbb795 gets reverted) 17.06.18 Quit Misanthropos (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.10.07 Join Misanthropos [0] (~Misanthro@frnk-4d00860d.pool.mediaWays.net) 17.26.03 Join kuldeepdhaka_ [0] (~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka) 17.27.48 Join dunpeal [0] (~dunpeal@unaffiliated/dunpeal) 17.28.14 # Hi. I'm having trouble with 3.13. Every time I set Repeat to "All", it resets back to "Off" after a while. 17.28.59 Quit kuldeepdhaka (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 17.29.26 # 3.13 is over one year old 17.30.08 # copper: What should I use then? 17.30.09 # [Saint]: the other problem with bluetooth, is that you're using a completely different DAC / headphone amp than your device 17.30.12 # it better be good 17.30.24 # dunpeal: current HEAD is broken 17.30.28 # what's your device? 17.30.34 # copper: Sansa Clip+ 17.30.45 # get this: http://caudec.net/rockbox/rockbox-sansaclipplus-440ff95-140517.zip 17.31.39 # [Saint]: and those things have tiny batteries, sometimes resulting in insufficient volume 17.31.52 # copper: excuse my ignorance, but how am I supposed to install this? 17.32.29 # dunpeal: mount your clip+ over usb and extract that archive at the root of the clip+, saying "yes" when your unpacking software asks you to overwrite files 17.35.10 # copper: OK. I thought some other files above /.rockbox would have to be updated. 17.36.00 # that archive only contains /.rockbox files 17.37.22 # copper: right, I mean: I thought that to update the version, one has to update some files in the / (root) 17.39.11 # i.e. just updating /.rockbox would not suffice. 17.40.03 # no, just /.rockbox 17.41.50 # copper: thanks, I extracted the files as you advised, it indeed upgraded the rockbox version. 17.45.01 # [Saint]: gah, the opacity with bluetooth stuff is horrible 17.45.49 # they never give ANY of the specs that matter 17.47.07 Quit dunpeal (Quit: leaving) 17.48.53 Quit Rower (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.54.28 Quit Misanthropos (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18.00.45 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 18.05.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.09.52 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.11.31 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 18.14.19 Join Misanthropos [0] (~Misanthro@frnk-4d00860d.pool.mediaWays.net) 18.15.34 Join meehoo [0] (5e4865e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.72.101.226) 18.15.44 # hello 18.16.09 # got a problem with rockbox. I cannot uninstall it, because the mounting point cannot be found 18.16.44 # and the windows does not see the internal disk of my sansa clip plus 18.16.56 # Ive got Windows 7 18.19.09 # hey, anyone there? 18.21.29 # could anyone give me their rockbox media player (sansa clip+ 4 GB) drivers? windows says they;re not instlaled 18.21.41 # and I cannot update them or anything 18.21.46 # afaik there are no special drivers 18.22.11 # if windows doesn't recognise your player, then the firmware is likely broken in some way. 18.22.28 # boot the OF 18.22.46 # http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansaclipplus/rockbox-buildch3.html#x5-280003.1.3 18.22.58 # have you tried any of the FAQs like http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaFAQ#How_do_I_restore_my_seemingly_broken_Sansa_63 ? 18.23.09 # "To boot into the original firmware, press and hold the Left button while turning on the player. " 18.28.18 # no, I haven't. 18.28.27 # I'll try then 18.35.20 # rockbox utility freezes while trying to autodetect my player 18.35.31 # both versions, 131 and 140 18.35.34 # :/ 18.38.42 # <[7]> gevaerts: what's the general opinion on adding SMART support to rockbox? 18.39.11 # <[7]> (via usb storage, no on-target decoding) 18.39.59 # thanks for the hints 18.40.00 # cya 18.40.03 Join ygrek_ [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 18.40.03 Quit meehoo (Quit: Page closed) 18.40.05 Quit Jinx (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18.51.09 Quit Misanthropos (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 18.56.26 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@h176n2-aeg-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com) 18.59.57 Quit kuldeepdhaka_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.10.22 Join Misanthropos [0] (~Misanthro@frnk-4d00860d.pool.mediaWays.net) 19.14.08 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 19.15.22 # [7]: I don't know if there's a general opinion. I think it would be nice to have 19.18.13 Quit ygrek_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 19.21.11 Join ygrek_ [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 19.31.22 # * copper didn't know that SMART over USB is possible 19.32.02 # yeah i only learnt that a few months ago as well 19.36.24 # <[7]> those T13 standards are an awful mess of crossreferences 19.36.41 # <[7]> you need to read like 5 of these standards to implement it 19.37.10 Quit ygrek_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 19.38.22 Join ygrek_ [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 19.40.17 Quit invalid (Quit: Leaving.) 19.40.45 # 11:20:34 UTC JdGordon: 01cbb795e9a059238f0e39d44d279c1d52874e06 don't load the same bmp image more than once in a skin 19.40.50 # 11:29:31 UTC Copper: ah crap. OK can someone revert it? I won't have time tomorrow to fix it 19.40.56 # [7]: ^ 19.41.31 # <[7]> copper: ? 19.41.59 # that commit makes Rockbox data abort, can you revert it please? 19.42.45 # tested on Classic and Fuze+ 19.43.31 # <[7]> I don't even have commit access 19.43.40 # what 19.43.49 # how 19.44.05 # <[7]> I did back in the old days, but never bothered to set things up again after the transition from SVN to git 19.44.16 # I am disappoint! 19.44.35 # I'm just gonna make those copper builds a permanent thing 19.44.51 # [ COPPER APPROVED ] 19.44.52 Join mirak [0] (~mirak@static-176-182-51-71.ncc.abo.bbox.fr) 19.45.14 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.04.18 Quit ygrek_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.05.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.10.00 # <[7]> does someone have a clue how to READ those LBA48 task file regs? 20.10.16 # <[7]> do I just read each reg twice? when do I get the high or low byte? 20.10.30 # <[7]> I didn't think this was possible at all, but apparently this SAB spec requires it 20.12.50 Quit Misanthropos (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 20.24.01 Join rela [0] (~x@pD9E54E07.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.24.02 Quit rela (Changing host) 20.24.02 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 20.25.31 Join RiD [0] (Ghost@2.83.29.29) 20.25.32 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 20.25.37 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 20.27.04 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.46.51 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g231121143.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.47.54 Quit rela (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.59.20 Nick DormantBrain is now known as SuperBrainAK (~andy@74.112.200.73) 21.14.04 Quit mirak (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.36.22 # * [7] finally found the HOB bit (hobbit? lol) 21.47.05 Quit Rower (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.57.40 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 21.57.52 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 22.05.03 # user890104: are you looking for a task? ;) 22.05.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.09.30 Join ygrek_ [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 22.43.23 Join Misanthropos [0] (~Misanthro@frnk-4d00860d.pool.mediaWays.net) 23.11.47 Quit Misanthropos (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 23.40.57 Join mirak [0] (~mirak@static-176-182-51-71.ncc.abo.bbox.fr) 23.43.05 Nick SuperBrainAK is now known as DormantBrain (~andy@74.112.200.73) 23.56.38 Quit ygrek_ (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)