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copper: your wps is 404-ing 06.53.44 # so yeah, i cant debug :( 07.02.20 Join dfkt [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 07.04.26 Quit dfkt_ (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 07.07.14 # copper: err, what data aborts? you said the fuze+ but the link you gave me was for your ipod video theme? 07.18.26 Join whiskers75_ [0] (~whiskers7@botters/whiskers75) 07.49.22 # <[Saint]> JdGordon: Its almost a given that the themes are identical in the arts that matter 07.49.52 # <[Saint]> copper ports his themes to pretty much every color target imaginable. 07.50.17 # <[Saint]> *the parts 07.51.24 # <[Saint]> JdGordon: also - the linked theme works fine here 07.51.43 # <[Saint]> Where "works fine" == "doesn't 404" 08.01.01 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 08.02.25 # [Saint]: i found the FP-82.zip which of course works fine in the sim 08.02.27 Join pystar89 [0] (~pystar89@ip-95-223-21-209.unitymediagroup.de) 08.02.43 # data aborts are not really going to show up n the sim though so have to do more playing tonight 08.05.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.06.14 # <[Saint]> It wouldn't surprise me if this is a "people doing weird shit" error. 08.06.35 # <[Saint]> But that's understandable since there's no discernable line between valid syntax and weird shit. 08.07.31 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 08.08.27 # So ... "works fine" == 403? 08.08.40 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 08.08.52 # So ... "works fine" == 403? 08.34.27 Quit us`0gb (Quit: http://0gb.us/) 08.34.58 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@c-68-43-2-35.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 08.34.58 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 08.34.58 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 09.32.52 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 09.34.05 # JdGordon: http://caudec.net/rockbox/latest/Basta.zip and http://caudec.net/rockbox/latest/Basta-FP.zip 09.34.56 # former is 320x240, latter is 240x320 09.39.20 Join ygrek_ [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 09.39.42 # I don't think there's anything weird in my themes that related to the "don't load the same image twice" thing 09.39.46 # that's* 09.41.16 # I can enter the WPS on the iPod Video and Classic sims, but entering the FMS makes it crash 09.41.27 # and the graphics are all wrong 09.42.19 # <[Saint]> In the fms or in general? 09.42.30 # everywhere 09.43.10 # images don't display right 09.43.21 # there's a lot of "graphics corruption" 09.45.24 # https://outpost.fr/tmp/lqS.png/ 09.45.35 # zoom in 09.45.56 # <[Saint]> I made a simple test upon its inception that loaded the same image with different offsets and identifiers and managed to call each identifier successfully from separate viewports or a conditional in a single viewport and all was well. 09.46.08 # the shadows on the left and right of the album art aren't showing, and the progress bar is all weird 09.46.12 # <[Saint]> But I definitely didn't stress it. No sir. 09.47.34 # <[Saint]> Wow. That fucked the scrubber didn't it? Weird. 09.48.02 # https://outpost.fr/tmp/EIe.png/ 09.48.14 # look at the mini album art on the bottom left 09.48.28 # and the green progress bar 09.48.34 # neither of them are supposed to be green 09.48.42 # <[Saint]> Looks like a game of moon buggy. 09.49.31 # https://outpost.fr/tmp/QJ2.png/ 09.51.04 # <[Saint]> Off topic: do you own more than two albums? ;) 09.51.58 # 564 09.52.32 # <[Saint]> hmmm. I see what happened there. 09.52.36 # but I only work on a separate set of files when using the sims, in case they fuck up the files somehow 09.52.40 # <[Saint]> s/own/play/ 09.52.48 # <[Saint]> Ah. 09.54.24 # what does it mean to "no load the same image twice in a theme"? 09.54.31 # I don't think I'm doing that 09.54.38 # not* 09.54.42 # <[Saint]> I can't immediately think of any way that would/could happen - but better safe than sorry I guess. 09.55.20 # obviously I'm loading the play icons once in the WPS, once in the SBS and once in the FMS 09.55.24 # <[Saint]> copper: this change, in theory, has no functional changes whatsoever. 09.55.40 # <[Saint]> Its only relevant to what gets buffered. 09.55.47 # but something's very wrong there 09.56.06 # <[Saint]> Its to make the buffer system not try to buffer the same content needlessly. 09.56.31 # <[Saint]> Is. The same image loaded with different idents several times. 09.56.39 # <[Saint]> *ie. 09.57.15 # <[Saint]> Err...that was terrible wording. 09.57.17 # I'm definitely not doing that 09.57.27 # <[Saint]> There's definitely functional changes. 09.57.59 # <[Saint]> But it should "just work". 09.58.17 # <[Saint]> You don't have to do or not do anything, in theory. 10.00.23 # <[Saint]> This change would make it possible to load a single bitmap with mini-images in different coordinates and display each with a different identifier and coordinates - without the hit of having to buffer it N times where N is number of idents. 10.00.58 # https://outpost.fr/tmp/70P.png/ 10.01.08 # <[Saint]> So an entire theme could consist of one giant bitmap. 10.01.16 # https://outpost.fr/tmp/oe5.png/ 10.01.18 # <[Saint]> In theory. 10.01.27 # <[Saint]> And it works when used simply. 10.01.40 # <[Saint]> Or it used to a few weeks back. 10.01.44 # I don't think lebellium's theme is displaying right either 10.01.46 # http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=1806&target=sansafuzeplus 10.02.37 # https://outpost.fr/tmp/lCJ.png/ 10.03.06 # just to show that I'm not doing "something weird" 10.03.34 # <[Saint]> Well - its very possible he is too ;) 10.03.56 # <[Saint]> He's "manage to fuck USB via a theme" guy. 10.04.33 # <[Saint]> But I jest. 10.05.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.10.47 # hmm 10.11.13 # trying to load "redux" segfaults immediately 10.20.50 # copper: have you seen any issues with the sim? 10.21.15 # those are all screenshots from the sims 10.21.33 # no crashes though? 10.22.11 # they crash when entering the FMS 10.22.28 # and trying to load the "redux" iPod theme makes the sim crash immediately 10.30.51 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-178-161.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 10.53.18 # trying to load Ash also segfault 10.53.20 # segfaults 11.04.53 Quit ygrek_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.19.14 # copper: yeah, segfaults in the sim here so should be able to figure it out 11.43.36 Join ygrek_ [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 11.49.44 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.58.34 # [Saint]: what music player do you use on your smartphone? 12.05.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.14.14 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@h176n2-aeg-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com) 12.18.17 Quit ygrek_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.23.57 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.29.06 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 12.29.47 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 12.46.12 Join ygrek_ [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 12.47.48 # copper: fixed 12.47.51 # in 3... 12.47.52 # 2.. 12.47.52 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. Revision 62d357b, 253 builds, 30 clients. 12.48.29 # lemme try 12.51.47 # JdGordon: better, but the progress bar in my Basta theme isn't showing in the WPS nor in the SBS 12.51.56 # only in the FMS 12.53.44 # Build Server message: 3Build round completed after 352 seconds. 12.57.42 # and the progress bar in Ash is screwy 12.57.47 # fixed 12.57.49 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. 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19.59.22 # <[Saint]> There's nothing /wrong/ with the method used, it just struck me as odd. 20.06.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.21.19 # I thought I wasn't supposed to layer images 20.22.03 # also, that would produce a larger image (in dimensions) with a larger bit depth (32 bit ARGB vs 24 bit RGB) 20.22.34 # and then you'll accuse me of doing weird stuff ;) 20.22.37 # you wouldn't need argb for that. simply use pink for the space where the album art goes 20.22.45 # ah, right 20.23.18 # argb is only useful if you need to have semi transparent areas 20.23.58 # right 20.25.05 # doesn't have all that many uses as you can't layer text on top of that :( 20.25.24 # "Viewports cannot be layered transparently over one another. Subsequent viewport definitions will be drawn over any other viewports already drawn onto that area of the screen." 20.26.06 # the correct way to do it is to load the cover in the background 20.26.07 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 20.26.25 # I haven't managed to use %VB properly yet 20.26.50 # when I made themes with drop shadow album arts %VB wasn't around yet I believe 20.26.57 # anyway, the way I'm doing it right now is super simple 20.28.56 Quit bluebrother^ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.29.23 # judging by the ratings, pink over a cover is probably still working: http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=1183&target=iriverh300 20.29.40 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 20.31.51 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g226069056.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.34.52 # I'll try to think of it the next time 20.35.04 # --the 20.45.53 # <[Saint]> That quote is often misused, and somewhat irrelevant these days. 20.46.01 # <[Saint]> It applies to *textual* viewports. 20.46.12 # <[Saint]> "Very Bad Things" will happen if you attempt to layer them. 20.46.17 # <[Saint]> Images? 20.46.25 # <[Saint]> Go for it - draw order is parsed order. 20.47.19 # <[Saint]> Though draw order for this case is irrelevant. 20.47.31 # <[Saint]> It doesn't matter where the portion you'll never see is drawn. ;) 20.48.01 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@91-64-117-207-dynip.superkabel.de) 20.48.01 Quit kugel (Changing host) 20.48.01 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 20.50.04 # * [Saint] quickly corrects himself 20.50.16 # <[Saint]> It applies to *dynamic textual* viewports. 20.50.28 # <[Saint]> static text - go for it. 20.50.38 # static as in not moving? 20.51.00 # <[Saint]> Not moving, won't ever update (ie. not metadata) 20.51.09 # I see 20.51.12 # that explains 20.51.18 # <[Saint]> Or a bettery or volume percentile, etc. 20.51.21 # <[Saint]> *battery 20.52.15 # <[Saint]> The text updating brings that section to the "front" when its updated - so you can no longer count on draw order. 20.52.40 # <[Saint]> I say front, but really there's no concept of front or back, it just appears this way. 20.54.14 # actually in my experience the text disappears quickly 20.59.53 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.08.48 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 21.30.21 Quit mirak (Quit: Ex-Chat) 21.31.33 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 21.36.27 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@rockbox/developer/stripwax) 21.40.03 Quit stripwax (Client Quit) 22.04.34 Quit y4n (Quit: Today is the perfect day for a perfect day.) 22.06.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.13.15 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 22.17.43 Join CaptainKewl [0] (~captainke@207-237-110-248.c3-0.nyr-ubr2.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 22.24.43 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@rockbox/developer/stripwax) 22.30.42 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 22.30.42 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 22.30.42 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 22.50.23 Join mirak [0] (~mirak@static-176-182-51-71.ncc.abo.bbox.fr) 22.56.04 Quit stripwax (Quit: Miranda IM! 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