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00.23.50 #       <pauldgroot> Yeah well, the dx90 is fully balanced inside so everything is double. Combine that with non optimized software and you get this
00.24.41 #       <pauldgroot> But well, if it sounds good..
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02.55.21 #       <ter2> if they put a mobile DAC in a hi-fi player it would be inadequate, though!
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11.33.31 #       <Nei> hi, if I wanted to make rockbox more beginner (say, kids) friendly, that needs hacking the source right
11.37.01 #       <copper> you can set what menu entries will be shown in the config file
11.37.26 #       <copper> like this: "root menu order: bookmarks,files,database,wps,settings,playlists,plugins,system_menu,shortcuts,"
11.37.47 #       <gevaerts> I'd say rockbox more beginner friendly needs defining what that means exactly first :)
11.38.43 #       <Nei> well, ideally it would only show WPS and menu key would go to the cover flow page
11.38.58 #       <Nei> and if you're in the menu, menu should go back to WPS
11.39.04 #       <Nei> so you cant lose your way so to speak
11.40.35 #       <Nei> a very cut-down version of rockbock. wouldn't matter if all the normal options are still reachable somewhere like from the play+menu together shortcut
11.40.50 #       <Nei> can I change key bindings somehow?
11.41.22 #       <copper> sounds like you really want an iPod Classic with the original firmware
11.41.30 #       <Nei> hihi
11.41.36 #       <copper> I'm serious
11.41.48 #       <Nei> you're not quite off
11.41.57 #       <Nei> but rockbox rocks
11.42.05 #       <Nei> and the original firmware sucks
11.42.18 #       <Nei> and it doesn't play my music properly for whatever reason 
11.42.24 #       <copper> the OF works rather well and seamlessly
11.42.44 #       <Nei> probably my MP3s are somehow wrong encoded or who knows
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11.43.30 #       <copper> I just remembered that you _do_ have an ipod classic
11.43.38 #       <Nei> I did want to use OF but that's a show stopper, plus the annoying ipod-proprietary directory structure/database crapshit
11.44.38 #       <copper> also, I would definitely not loan my precioussss to kids who are too young to use Rockbox
11.44.48 #       <copper> scratch that
11.44.56 #       <copper> I would definitely not load my preciousss.
11.45.00 #       <copper> loan*
11.45.01 #       <Nei> I don't know why but OF doesn't play my mp3s, it plays them as if the disc had a scratch
11.45.17 #       <Nei> I tried with banshee and with gtkpod
11.45.38 #       <Nei> needless to say that rockbox fixes all that and it even plays all the other formats like ogg etc
11.46.34 #       <Nei> so actually I'm pretty amazed by rockbox but it is indeed too difficult to use for too young ones
11.47.19 #       <copper> why do they need a DAP in the first place
11.47.42 #       <Nei> so they stop destroying physical CDs ;p
11.47.42 #       <copper> one that costs an arm and a leg
11.48.01 #       <copper> one that is fragile
11.48.11 #       <Nei> no it's the other way round, getting a childrens player would cost like 40$ whereas I already have this ipod shit laying by uselessly
11.48.45 #       <Nei> and it seems like a rather solid brick piece to me
11.49.21 #       <gevaerts> Drop it *once*, and the disk could easily be toast
11.49.31 #       <gevaerts> Sure, you're often lucky, but...
11.50.11 #       <gevaerts> Most of the time a DAP disk is idle and therefore much less vulnerable, but if it happens to be spinning when you drop it, I'd say it's going to be expensive
11.50.13 #       <Nei> I dropped it myself a few times. you're right, hdd based devices are probably fragile in that regard
11.50.23 #       <copper> Nei: ok I'll trade your iPod Classic for my Clip+ :P
11.51.11 #       <gevaerts> But anyway, to answer your original question, yes, you'll need to dive into the source for that sort of thing
11.52.36 #       <Nei> I'd trade the ipod classic for a solid thing that the little ones can use; showing cover images would be helpful ;)
11.52.47 #       <Nei> I found most advertised as "kids mp3 player" to be pretty shitty
11.52.51 #       <Nei> they only have a digit display
11.53.11 #       <Nei> and thanks for answering my question ^^
11.53.11 #       <copper> Nei: ok I'll trade your iPod Classic for my Fuze+!
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11.56.42 #       <Drama_Maker> hi there 
11.56.44 #       <Drama_Maker> :)
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15.12.05 #       <gevaerts> [Saint]: your turn: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,48300.msg228432.html#new
15.15.56 #       <copper> "
15.15.56 #       <copper> Is there a chance for Rockbox for the ipod classic 6G in the near future or at all?
15.15.59 #       <copper> "
15.16.02 #       <copper> lol
15.16.10 #       <copper> [Saint]: please, tell him it's unusable. Please.
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