--- Log for 20.06.114 Server: morgan.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 23 hours ago 00.01.01 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00.02.26 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.11.50 # * TheSeven just freed up >800MB of disk space by deduplicating the build client's ccache 00.19.38 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0/20140616143923]) 00.21.26 Quit edhelas (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.36.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.42.16 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00.54.45 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 00.54.50 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 00.57.54 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.00.47 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g226071243.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.22.30 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 01.30.29 Quit RiD (Quit: A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.) 01.34.28 # * [Saint] tries his hand at compiling/configuring the TNT toolchain 02.08.58 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 02.14.44 Nick adnap_ is now known as adnap (~adnap@cpe-24-28-68-235.austin.res.rr.com) 02.29.07 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 02.36.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.46.24 Nick DrKK_away is now known as DrKK` (~DrKK@unaffiliated/drkk/x-3450090) 02.50.52 Join oiermann [0] (~oiermann@p4FF01361.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 02.51.11 Quit sakax (Remote host closed the connection) 02.53.01 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 03.00.00 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 03.13.35 Join ikeboy [0] (~ikeboy@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 03.20.51 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 03.27.32 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-220-164.mcn.bellsouth.net) 04.07.48 Quit ygrek (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 04.14.45 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.14.45 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.14.45 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.14.46 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.14.48 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.14.49 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.17.23 Join GodEater` [0] (~whoknows@90.194.223.13) 04.17.23 Quit GodEater` (Changing host) 04.17.23 Join GodEater` [0] (~whoknows@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 04.19.47 Quit GodEater (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04.25.50 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 04.27.10 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 04.36.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.47.19 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 05.07.03 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 05.07.12 Quit oiermann (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 05.11.08 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.12.17 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.38.37 Quit ikeboy (Quit: Leaving) 05.49.07 Quit Provel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.49.55 Quit steffengy (Disconnected by services) 05.49.56 Join steffengy1 [0] (~quassel@p57B4810C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 05.54.19 Join Provel [0] (~Provel@75-132-32-77.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 05.57.46 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 06.00.56 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 06.26.51 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 06.31.01 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 06.36.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.50.33 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 06.53.21 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 07.03.57 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.09.08 Nick DrKK` is now known as DrKK_away (~DrKK@unaffiliated/drkk/x-3450090) 07.16.57 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.29.06 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 07.43.33 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 07.45.24 Join ygrek_ [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 07.46.43 Quit ygrek_ (Remote host closed the connection) 07.46.45 Quit ygrek (Remote host closed the connection) 07.47.22 Join ygrek_ [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 07.49.15 Join f[x] [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 07.52.08 Quit ygrek_ (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 07.58.33 Join oiermann [0] (~oiermann@p4FF01361.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 08.10.43 Quit f[x] (Remote host closed the connection) 08.13.44 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 08.13.57 Quit adnap (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 08.14.41 Join adnap [0] (~adnap@cpe-24-28-68-235.austin.res.rr.com) 08.16.08 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 08.16.30 Quit ygrek (Remote host closed the connection) 08.36.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.43.10 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.58.45 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.05.51 Join DasXardas [0] (4e6c9f1a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.108.159.26) 09.06.16 # Hi, please is there any developer? :) 09.07.33 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.20.09 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.20.21 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 09.20.40 Quit ygrek (Remote host closed the connection) 09.23.49 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@2001:981:e7ba:1:863a:4bff:fe85:8a3c) 09.30.27 Join saratoga_ [0] (4160ac54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.96.172.84) 09.31.20 # DasXardas: its the middle of the night, if you have a question just ask and check the logs later 09.32.33 # it's morning in the EU :) 09.36.57 # I'm form Czech Republic I've 9:30 AM :D So my question. Is any chance to build RockBox for Cowon X7? :) I've this FW on my X5l and I was great, but now I have X7 and but with stock FW :( Thank you very much. 09.50.22 Quit saratoga_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 09.53.15 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 10.23.02 # <[Saint]> DasXardas: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort 10.27.00 # I can't found any indormations about X7 :( It'was released 2011 so hadrware components should be availaible :( 10.31.06 Nick SuperBrainAK is now known as DormantBrain (~andy@74.112.200.73) 10.31.10 Join mortalis [0] (~kvirc@213.33.220.118) 10.35.19 # <[Saint]> Well, this is the way these things are done. 10.35.38 # <[Saint]> If you hjave the device, and want the port done, you're the ebst person for the job. 10.35.43 # <[Saint]> *have 10.35.48 # <[Saint]> *best 10.35.54 # dongs 10.35.54 # <[Saint]> (gah - can't type today) 10.36.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.50.17 # I have this device. :) Memory http://cz.farnell.com/hynix-semiconductor/h55s1g22mfp-60m/sdram-mobile-1gb-x32-90fbga/dp/1907382 CPU: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7901&c=telechip_tcc7901 FLASH: http://kaantec.en.gongchang.com/product/12164593 necht chips I can't read :( 10.52.15 # But I can't to do new build because a haven't any knowledges about it :( Maybe these informations help developers, :( 10.53.00 # if you don't have serious electronics skills and embedded programming, or know somebody who has and is willing to spend some months of his free time 10.53.00 # <[Saint]> Well, if you're not prepared to put any effort into it, why should anyone else? 10.53.14 # you are better of getting a already supported device and selling your X7 10.54.11 # <[Saint]> Yeah, its a bit of a POS> 10.54.21 # a new port won't be done in few days 10.54.51 # <[Saint]> As the page I link to mentions, its is many hundreds of man hours work. 10.55.29 # in other words: there won't be a port anytime soon 10.56.19 # <[Saint]> And that would be if someone decided to pick it up right now, but AFAIK no one has the hardware. 10.56.31 # <[Saint]> So...yeah. 10.57.07 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.59.33 # <[Saint]> Pretty much, developers work on what they want to work on, when they want to work on it, because it interests them and benefits them personally. 11.00.53 # <[Saint]> And every one of the new ports has happened because someone wanted Rockbox on an unsupported device and was prepared to put in the work to make it happen. 11.02.02 # sLite: it mostly depends on the hardware 11.02.06 # <[Saint]> It would be extremely likely that you could get support along the way, but you would have to expect to be doing most of the work yourself. 11.02.43 Join bcobco [0] (~bcobco@77.225.204.119) 11.02.43 # pamaury: of course 11.03.25 # sLite: and also the price of the hardware, for example I don't mind trying a port on a 50€ player but if it's 200€ I might think twice ^^ 11.03.44 # <[Saint]> Right. :) 11.04.27 # hehe 11.04.35 # don't like bricking expensive stuff? ;) 11.05.27 # thats the good thing about the ipods 11.05.37 # there are so many out there 11.05.39 # from what I know, it cannot be bricked (it has usb recovery mode) and we have the datasheet for the cpu/soc but it uses raw NAND which is pain to work with 11.05.47 # sooner or later any gen will be supported 11.06.23 # <[Saint]> The good thing about the ipods < iPod Nano2G is that they are qwuite literally unbrickable. 11.06.46 # <[Saint]> The Nano2G is technically unbrickable as well, but it involves opening the device and shorting a pinset. 11.07.32 # <[Saint]> And the older iPods are "very, very, very hard" to brick. 11.07.54 # don't know anything about the technical side, but from a rockbox users standpoint, i'm very happy with my 5.5g 120gb ipod 11.08.01 # <[Saint]> For all of them, it takes a considerable amount of effort to brick them, you'd need to be actually trying to. 11.08.14 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@h176n2-aeg-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com) 11.08.45 # <[Saint]> And, yes. My 5.5G w/ 256GB SSD is my 'lil buddy. 11.08.53 # It's a pitty i haven't requied knowledges :( about programming etc.. :( So thaks for informations : 11.09.15 # <[Saint]> DasXardas: remember that the people who have this knowledge weren't born with it. 11.09.19 # ssd, i haven't even thought about that yet :D 11.09.23 # <[Saint]> They learned it, and you can too. :) 11.09.34 # are there any compatiblity issues with ssds? 11.09.54 # <[Saint]> Just need to make sure its 3.3V 11.10.07 # i remember some 120gb disks they might not work 11.10.17 # ok 11.10.30 # <[Saint]> nah, the capacity doesn't matter - at least not for Rockbox. 11.10.38 # <[Saint]> I have removed the OF, so, I dunno there. 11.10.43 # there are problems with emCORE on the Classic 11.10.46 # with SSDs 11.11.02 # well i guess the 5.5g will have some limitations on disk size 11.11.25 # <[Saint]> I don't _think_ the Apple FW cares. 11.11.29 # sLite: if you feel like disassembling your X7 and post high quality photos I could tell you how hard would likely be 11.11.32 # <[Saint]> And Rockbox doesn't. 11.11.49 # pamaury: i dont own an x7, DasXardas does 11.12.32 # i think crossing some TB boudaries might get you out of luck with the diskcontroller, wouldn't it? :> 11.12.58 # like with some external disk cases 11.13.09 # or old sata controllers/bioses 11.13.26 # (on pc) 11.14.04 # It can't be problem because I have it now dissassbled, because my battery is died, so if I catch good camera, so I post photos in HD 11.15.40 # <[Saint]> sLite: you can do some crazy things with adapter plates with the iPods Video. Like 40 pin ZIF <-> 1.8" CF <-> CF<-> SD <-> SD <-> uSD 11.16.00 # <[Saint]> Then you can have a reasonable cheap, fast as fuck, solid state iPod. 11.16.09 # <[Saint]> up to 128GB 11.16.20 # why microsd 11.16.30 # because you can! 11.16.32 # :D 11.17.11 # <[Saint]> I added the SD <-> uSD just to increase the adapter silliness. 11.17.15 # <[Saint]> :) 11.17.26 # sLite: you can go up to 2^31 sectors, I suspect 11.17.35 # As in, 512 byte sectors 11.17.46 # So 2^40 bytes 11.17.46 # <[Saint]> Or, "a metric shittonne" 11.17.52 # guess i will look into an ssd if my 120gb ever decides to break 11.17.59 # I prefer the imperial fuckton 11.18.05 # <[Saint]> :) 11.18.13 # a.k.a. Hmmm 11.18.28 # That's *close* :) 11.18.34 # SSD drives are too expensive for use into player. Price of 128GB SSD is about 250 dollars :D 11.18.59 # <[Saint]> Says the guy that bought an overpriced Cown. 11.19.01 # <[Saint]> :P 11.19.01 # ~$130 for a 128 GB SD card 11.19.03 # [Saint]: 2^31 sectors is 1TB :) 11.19.18 # * [Saint] is aware 11.19.37 # <[Saint]> For a DAP, I think that qualifies as a "shittonne" 11.19.48 # flac tonne 11.19.53 # It's only twice as much as some people are using today 11.20.02 # I'm not sure if 4K sectors make the limit go up 11.20.05 # <[Saint]> Not if you use speex! 11.20.33 # <[Saint]> You could fit all the music in the world, ever, on a 1TB drive then. 11.20.49 # [citation needed] 11.20.57 # <[Saint]> I just checked. 11.21.00 # If I have 160GB hdd so a would have 256GB SSD / SD :D 11.21.05 # DasXardas: there are much cheaper ssds 11.21.05 # lolwat? 11.21.46 # DasXardas: thanks ^^ The interesting part is to be able to see all the chips, I already those exists: TCC79xx, H55S1G... and K9.... but there are others which I can't read on photos I found on the web 11.21.49 # you get 256gb for like 90 euros 11.21.55 # *already know 11.22.01 # what 11.22.26 # sLite: we're talking 1.8" drives and possibly mSATA 11.22.46 # not mass market 2.5" 11.22.48 # oh yes, i forgot about that detail :D 11.22.49 # <[Saint]> yeah, mSATA SSDs are really not cheap still. 11.22.59 # <[Saint]> I got very lucky, and a 128GB one fell into my lap. 11.23.00 # its ages when i switched the disk on mine 11.23.07 # <[Saint]> The 256GB one was *not* cheap. 11.24.33 # Maybe I buy mSATA SSD 250GB and reduction for 1,8" Zif connector :D maybe if works :D I hope :D 11.27.56 # <[Saint]> I also have an iPod Color with a 64GB CF card, an 1100mAh battery (usually 400mAh), and an internal BT transmitter. 11.28.21 # what 11.28.27 # <[Saint]> That's my baby, but I don't take her out much, because she's getting a bit dodgy in the clickwheel region. 11.29.22 # I have CF card in my Cowon X5l :D Great solution. Better than HDD 11.29.38 # <[Saint]> Light, durable, fast, shock proof. 11.29.40 # <[Saint]> Yeah. 11.30.12 # Truth, sorry I must go for a while. 11.32.04 Quit bcobco (Remote host closed the connection) 11.32.27 Join bcobco [0] (~bcobco@77.225.204.119) 11.41.53 # [Saint]: ipods older than nano2g aren't unbrickable at all. we just typically don't mess with their boot flash 11.42.51 # <[Saint]> I thought it was *always* recoverable? 11.43.00 # <[Saint]> Not trivially, but, recoverable. 11.44.27 # sLite: I think up to 2TB of SSD storage should just work, up to 16TB on classic, and very likely much more from a storage controller point of view, it's just fat32 that might have problems with sector numbers > 32 bits 11.45.06 # needs moar exFAT 11.45.11 # mhm 11.45.13 # <[Saint]> Its possible. 11.45.20 # <[Saint]> Someone just needs to do it. 11.45.30 # <[Saint]> Its one of those Mr. Someone tasks. 11.45.42 # where can I join this Mr. Someone? :D 11.46.01 # wouldnt it be possible to throw out FAT completely? 11.46.34 # <[Saint]> Of course. 11.46.37 # that would break compatibility with original firmwares 11.46.49 # well 11.46.53 # i wouldn't care :D 11.47.15 # <[Saint]> Right, to keep the OF happy, one might need to provide it with its own partition or disk image file. 11.47.35 # and no, I don't think that you can recover a bad nor flash on a pp ipod... 11.48.10 # <[Saint]> With the iPods, it would be easy, if you didn't care about the OF, to just remove it and not care about FS incompatibility. 11.48.57 # <[Saint]> I remove the OF on my iPods and just move Rockbox to the OSOS anyway. 11.49.01 # <[Saint]> So, I wouldn;t care either. 11.49.05 Quit bcobco (Remote host closed the connection) 11.49.30 Join bcobco [0] (~bcobco@77.225.204.119) 11.49.31 # <[Saint]> (Rockbox boots so fucking fast with Rockbox in OSOS and an SSD on an iPod Video) 11.49.37 # <[Saint]> Like, ~2s. 11.49.38 # well, i don't think i will ever upgrade my ipod to a disksize that needs me to move away from FAT anyway ^^ 11.49.47 # <[Saint]> ;) 11.50.10 # who knows what kind of ssds we'll have in a few years 11.50.15 # <[Saint]> sLite: if you don't use the OF - have you tried removing it completely? 11.50.24 # <[Saint]> (was it you I helped with that the other day?) 11.50.33 # nope 11.50.38 # i haven't poked around with it 11.50.46 # * TheSeven just bought a 512GB SSD for ~165€ (incl. 19% VAT) 11.50.52 # <[Saint]> With the Video, you get significant boot speed improvement w/ a spinning disk. 11.51.07 # i just installed rockbox some years ago and never cared about the original FW anymore 11.51.21 # <[Saint]> sLite: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodPatcher#Advanced_usage 11.51.34 # <[Saint]> Specifically "4) OSOS contains only Rockbox" 11.52.09 # theres a lot of nano references 11.52.23 # is this also valid for the 5.5g? 11.52.27 # <[Saint]> Yes. 11.52.33 # ok 11.52.39 # i'll take a look at the weekend 11.52.43 # <[Saint]> It mentions the Nano2G a fair bit because things are done slightly differently there. 11.52.50 # boot speed improvements sounds nice :) 11.53.04 # <[Saint]> The Nano2G is basically doing that with the default install anyway. 11.53.10 # <[Saint]> And, yeah. 11.53.28 # <[Saint]> With a spinning disk, you can get about a 3~4s improvement on boot time. 11.54.16 # nice 11.54.28 # thx for the hint ^^ 11.54.45 # * TheSeven wonders why other people's non-emcore'd nanos boot so fast 11.55.03 # the OF bootloader takes like 5-10 seconds to mount the FTL on mine 11.56.56 # <[Saint]> Jeebus. 11.57.34 # sure, the 8GB model will take longer to mount than the smaller ones 11.58.02 # but other people are reporting shorter boot times on 8 GB ones as well... 12.06.34 # <[Saint]> I haven't used the OF on any of the Classics I own, that still work. 12.06.49 # <[Saint]> I booted the OF and played with it for about half an hour on the first Classic I ever got. 12.06.53 # <[Saint]> That's about it. 12.07.01 # <[Saint]> All others have been Rockboxed immediately. 12.22.05 Quit bcobco (Remote host closed the connection) 12.22.31 Join bcobco [0] (~bcobco@77.225.204.119) 12.23.47 Quit edhelas (Read error: No route to host) 12.23.58 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@2001:981:e7ba:1:863a:4bff:fe85:8a3c) 12.36.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.39.33 Quit albb0920 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.39.42 Join albb0920 [0] (~albb0920@alice.mgt.ncu.edu.tw) 12.54.56 Quit bcobco (Remote host closed the connection) 12.55.18 Join bcobco [0] (~bcobco@77.225.204.119) 13.11.29 Quit Provel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.11.52 Join Provel [0] (~Provel@75-132-32-77.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 13.12.07 # copper: what 13.13.20 Quit bcobco (Remote host closed the connection) 13.13.31 Join ikeboy [0] (~ikeboy@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 13.13.44 Join bcobco [0] (~bcobco@77.225.204.119) 13.15.16 Quit DasXardas (Quit: Page closed) 13.25.37 Quit gevaerts (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 13.26.40 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 13.28.04 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Quit.) 13.28.20 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 13.29.24 Quit [Saint] (Client Quit) 13.29.47 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 13.32.18 Quit ikeboy (Quit: Leaving) 13.32.26 Part [Saint] 13.33.18 Join [Saint] [0] (~saint@rockbox/staff/saint) 13.38.16 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 13.39.33 Join gevaerts [0] (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 13.46.06 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 14.15.40 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 14.18.53 Quit ygrek (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 14.30.33 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.36.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.37.39 Quit bcobco (Remote host closed the connection) 14.38.02 Join bcobco [0] (~bcobco@77.225.204.119) 14.45.58 Quit cmhobbs (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.47.38 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 15.03.28 Join Clem29 [0] (4f24aa45@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.36.170.69) 15.04.56 # hi guys, I've a problem with my Sansa Clip Zip. 15.04.58 Quit Scall (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.08.12 # I think it is died. i tried to soft reset it, i've also tried to wait a pair of days to make it fully discharge and then i charged it for a day, but nothing works. In addicition when I plugged out the player from the charger it was really hot. Can anyone help me? 15.08.40 Join kuldeepdhaka [0] (~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka) 15.19.01 Quit Clem29 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 15.29.34 Join Clem29 [0] (5feeae63@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.238.174.99) 15.36.34 Join Scall [0] (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) 15.40.12 Quit teythoon (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.42.06 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.212.134) 15.42.32 Quit Provel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.44.31 Join teythoon_ [0] (~teythoon@mail.jade-hamburg.de) 16.02.16 Quit kugel (Quit: Lost terminal) 16.02.17 Quit teythoon_ (Quit: leaving) 16.16.21 # is the info on the wiki about nano 3g still valid (no port available)? 16.22.07 # looks like it :> 16.36.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.40.35 Quit Jinx (Quit: reboot) 16.45.31 # isnt nano 3g like a decade old by now 16.45.35 # throw it away 16.45.36 # done 16.47.03 # dongs: that sort of suggestion doesn't help anyone 16.49.09 # gevaerts: you wanna bet? decade old tech is: (obvioulsy) old, battery is likely shot, uses way too much power, has ancient/boring parts inside, crap storage capacity etc, might be unsafe due to old battery, in general, its a complete waste of time to try doing something with it. 16.49.44 # effort spent trying to make it do something its not intended to do will likely end up costing more (in time) than buying something new that works. 16.50.02 Quit fragilematter (Quit: Leaving.) 16.50.07 # just sayin. 16.50.55 # anyone wondering if rockbox can run on http://www.ipodhistory.com/images/first_generation_shuffle_i.jpg ??? there's a reason for that. 16.50.56 # dongs: people are happily using older ipods every day 16.51.19 # gevaerts: i dont even have ipod and I dont listen to portable music. 16.51.32 # And the reason rockbox doesn't run on the shuffle is *very* different from the reason it doesn't run on the nano 3g 16.51.49 # really? 16.51.52 # Yes 16.51.58 # and what would that be 16.53.48 # The shuffle is a much more restricted thing 16.55.07 # It's based on a chip that's not very suitable for something like rockbox 17.04.54 Quit Clem29 (Quit: Page closed) 17.05.38 Quit edhelas (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17.11.28 # most of the hardware rockbox runs on is quite old isn't it? :> 17.19.49 # cuz portable music players are largely irrelevant now anyway. 17.22.02 # well, personal preference i would say 17.22.41 # i haven't seen anything that could replace my rockboxed ipod so far 17.23.55 # if you're refering to smartphones, that doesnt make portable music players irrelevant at all 17.24.18 Quit mortalis (Quit: KVIrc 4.3.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) 17.24.38 # (for me, and i guess for a lot of other people too) 17.25.48 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 17.27.44 Join frusen [0] (~frusen@fsf/member/frusen) 17.39.09 Quit pretty_function (Remote host closed the connection) 17.40.36 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@77-173-104-232.ip.telfort.nl) 17.48.11 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 18.11.17 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 18.26.06 Join DomasoFan [0] (~Miranda@194-208-228-200.tele.net) 18.26.20 Part DomasoFan ("I'm a happy Miranda NG user! Get it here: http://miranda-ng.org/") 18.32.16 Quit kuldeepdhaka (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 18.36.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.38.54 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.39.49 Join kuldeepdhaka [0] (~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka) 18.42.09 Nick DormantBrain is now known as SuperBrainAK (~andy@74.112.200.73) 18.44.05 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 18.48.16 # JdGordon: I encountered a skin engine crash when reset the rockbox configuration while playing a file with the non-default theme. Here is the calltrace: do_menu -> settings_apply_skins -> skin_backdrop_load_setting -> core_alloc_ex -> buflib_alloc_ex -> buflib_shrink -> audio_codec_update_elapsed, I hope it helps 19.05.54 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 19.09.20 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-178-161.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 19.13.05 Quit kuldeepdhaka (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 19.22.06 Join kuldeepdhaka [0] (~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka) 19.30.28 Quit ygrek (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.34.16 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 19.39.41 Join thomasjfox [0] (~thomasjfo@rockbox/developer/thomasjfox) 19.45.26 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 20.06.23 Quit oiermann (Remote host closed the connection) 20.06.24 # i made a figure for the manual: http://imgur.com/BZZdPIM 20.06.30 # whats the best format to use? png ok? 20.07.41 # I'd say so 20.11.32 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9EEAE0C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.12.02 # plotting the transfer functions for our EQ, they actually work slightly differently than I thought 20.12.16 # i thought Q=1 would be a band as wide as its center frequency 20.13.23 # but its actually more like Q=1 is ~ 2/3s as wide as the center frequency 20.13.57 # the notes say "Q (the EE kind of definition, except for peakingEQ in which A*Q is the classic EE Q. That adjustment in definition was made so that a boost of N dB followed by a cut of N dB for identical Q and f0/Fs results in a precisely flat unity gain filter or "wire".)" 20.15.47 # where A is the gain, so I guess the width changes a little if the gain changes?? 20.15.54 # i must be missing something 20.16.14 # If you don't know, most of us don't stand a chance :) 20.16.37 # well, i'm sure preglow knows 20.19.14 Join RiD [0] (Ghost@2.83.39.197) 20.19.36 Quit bcobco (Remote host closed the connection) 20.20.01 Join bcobco [0] (~bcobco@77.225.204.119) 20.25.18 # is it ok to use the \screenshot{} latex command for general images? 20.27.32 # ah no its not 20.27.33 # ok got it 20.28.01 Join MMlosh [0] (~MMlosh@2001:470:6f:23:b4d7:67a0:3e4b:595d) 20.36.03 # TheSeven: Apparently it helps to stabilize the client's tunnel connection :) In the 15:38 round this client even did the most builds... 20.36.19 # hmm apparently my git commands did not do what i expected 20.37.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.37.18 # can someone fix b66fe78? i have no idea whats going on 20.41.38 # fix how? 20.42.20 # maybe that did it? 20.43.18 # ok i think i did it 20.43.34 # i didn't even realize the latex build system duplicated the manual tree when compiling 20.44.01 Quit ygrek (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 20.47.04 Quit bcobco (Remote host closed the connection) 20.47.27 Join bcobco [0] (~bcobco@77.225.204.119) 20.48.01 Join rela_ [0] (~x@pD9E5528E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.50.58 Quit rela (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.51.54 # Hmm, the build system doesn't seem to work 100% correct 20.53.05 # There are occasional missing builds (often Samsung YP-R0 and YP-R1), and even if there are not, the master seems to be unable to properly add up build counts 20.54.09 # The last build client stats all start with "For these 253 builds, the following XX build clients participated:" The XX varies, the "253" doesn't 20.54.48 # However, when adding up the "builds" column, there are 251 builds when the Samsuns are not missing, and 249 builds when they are 20.55.04 # Zagor? Bagder? 20.57.00 # Also, the tooltip on a build in the coloured table always says "Built by.... in 0 secs" 21.10.15 Quit kuldeepdhaka (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 21.12.11 Nick SuperBrainAK is now known as DormantBrain (~andy@74.112.200.73) 21.15.26 Join kuldeepdhaka [0] (~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka) 21.20.05 Quit Xerion (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.20.33 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@5419F5F4.cm-5-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 21.23.42 Quit Xerion (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.29.13 Quit RiD (Quit: A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.) 21.31.32 Join RiD [0] (Ghost@2.83.39.197) 21.35.31 Quit ender` (Quit: I do not fear death. 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