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but sure enough, the music sounds "normal" 14.57.50 # i very, very much doubt a 180 degree phase shift is audible 14.58.00 # vOv 14.58.31 # headphone / speaker membranes aren't symmetrical, are they? 14.59.17 Quit Misanthropos (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.59.18 # they're very much designed to be 14.59.43 # but sure, if you've got assymetrical speaker membranes, then inversion might be audible 15.00.01 # i'd rather stick to the stuff that reproduces sound properly 15.01.12 # I don't actually know (about membranes) 15.02.05 # I can't think of a reason why they would make asymmetrical membranes 15.02.46 # since headphones / speakers should be able to reproduce sine waves without distortion 15.02.50 # they really wouldn't :> 15.02.58 # but it might be the case 15.02.59 # no idea 15.03.11 # could be some assymetrical distortion elsewhere in the signal path too 15.04.20 # http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l149/lowyat/bassmiddle.jpg 15.04.22 Quit bcobco (Remote host closed the connection) 15.04.30 # doesn't look symmetrica 15.04.33 # doesn't look symmetrical 15.04.44 Join bcobco [0] (~bcobco@77.225.204.119) 15.05.05 # kinda hard to see without it moving 15.05.12 # the excursion is all that counts 15.24.47 Quit albb0920 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.37.30 Quit Guest81512 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.37.52 Join Guest70275 [0] (Slayer@c-69-143-187-144.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 15.51.36 Quit petur (Quit: Page closed) 15.56.58 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 16.09.11 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@c-26d572d5.010-215-7570701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 16.09.11 Quit n1s (Changing host) 16.09.11 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 16.09.47 Quit kuldeepdhaka (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.19.52 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.214.194) 16.47.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.14.08 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@98.186.66.92) 17.14.08 Quit cmhobbs (Changing host) 17.14.08 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 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19.42.28 Join shamus [0] (~shmaus@ip-206-192-193-180.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 19.43.01 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 19.45.03 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 19.48.46 Join __jae__ [0] (~jae@dedicated.jaerhard.com) 19.50.37 Quit preglow (*.net *.split) 19.51.39 # Hm, how do I build an installer from the git repo? 19.52.17 # Like the Windows .exe? It doesn't have to be an .exe, since I'm using Debian, but I just don't get how to actually install the rockbox I built. 19.52.48 # Like, overwrite the original bootloader? 19.55.32 # JordiGH: qmake && make in rbutil/rbutilqt 19.55.51 # Ah! Thanks. 19.56.38 # I can't remember right now how that deals with bootloaders though. 19.56.58 # Ah, uisimulator, I can actually test a plugin without trashing my clicker, right? 19.57.07 # Clicker := Sansa Clip+ 19.57.27 # I mean, the installer usually downloads bootloaders from the server. I'm not sure if you can get rbutil to install local bootloaders 19.57.36 # Yes, mostly 19.57.49 # Just pick "S" from configure to build a simulator 19.58.13 # At last, mwahahah, I will have 2048 on my clicker. 19.58.15 # It's a simulator though, not an emulator, so there will be some differences 19.58.36 # It should be quite difficult to brick a device from a plugin though :) 19.59.01 # (except of course the nand flash plugin on the irivers...) 20.01.02 Join preglow [0] (~thomj@2001:840:4243:3::100) 20.03.06 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 20.04.13 Join akaWolf [0] (~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf) 20.05.58 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@ip9234d653.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) 20.05.58 Quit kugel (Changing host) 20.05.58 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 20.06.51 Join RiD [0] (~RiD@188.140.11.198) 20.07.17 Nick DormantBrain is now known as SuperBrainAK (~andy@74.112.200.73) 20.10.15 # JordiGH: 20 20.10.18 # JordiGH: 2048 20.10.25 # JordiGH: :D 20.11.31 Quit preglow (*.net *.split) 20.12.08 # gevaerts: How can I use threads from a plugin? 20.12.36 # franklin: use the threading functions provided by the API 20.12.47 # Aren't there thread_*() functions in plugin.h? 20.12.50 # There are none, AFAIK 20.13.15 # Never mind! 20.13.36 # Emacs only searches forwards... 20.14.14 # we all know emacs lacks a decent editor 20.14.44 # But has EVERYTHING else :D 20.20.31 # gevaerts, kugel: Or is there a better way to show a splash when saving a game? 20.20.48 # Wait, you're considering using threads for *that*? 20.20.59 # Is there a better way? 20.22.42 Join preglow [0] (~thomj@2001:840:4243:3::100) 20.23.06 # I'm quite sure 20.23.14 # Like... 20.23.27 # Just set ticks to 0 20.23.34 # And repaint when you're done 20.23.53 # Thank you!!! 20.24.07 # That's what every other plugin does 20.24.57 # No... They all do splash(HZ, "Saving") 20.25.38 # Well 20.25.43 # 7 do that 20.25.46 # 9 use 0 20.26.16 # I'm using BlackJack as my reference plugin 20.26.43 # Well, thanks! 20.26.58 # It can pay to look at more than one example :) 20.27.39 # Noted. 20.28.05 # franklin: I appreciate you working on a 2048 game plugin :) 20.28.27 # :D 20.28.43 # Code-review it, then :) 20.30.39 Join Provel [0] (~Provel@75-132-19-104.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 20.31.24 # you are creating a new version every day it seems, what are you changing every time? 20.34.01 Quit preglow (*.net *.split) 20.36.53 # bertrik: all the bugs seem to be fixed, now I'm just making it behave like other plugins 20.37.05 # oh ok 20.40.19 # bertrik: also, im adding a few new features :D 20.43.51 # Do you have any feature ideas? 20.44.21 Join preglow [0] (~thomj@2001:840:4243:3::100) 20.47.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.49.10 # bertrik: 2048 is pretty much done now. Perfectly stable, but might have some compatibility issues 20.50.27 # franklin: no, i don't have any feature ideas, just keep it simple IMO 20.50.45 # have you tried how it looks on different targets? 20.51.25 # It works on ipod6g, sansa e200 (sim) 20.51.29 # the sansa clip for example, has a square display, would be nice to have it fit exactly and get nice graphics appropriate for the screen resolution 20.51.52 # bertrik: yes, I have a different screen layout for wide/square displays vs tall displays 20.52.08 # I just need someone to test it. 20.52.42 # bertrik: also, I have different resolution tiles for each screen size. 20.53.02 # oh cool 20.53.21 # are the numbers pre-rendered, or do you write them dynamically using a font? 20.54.00 # for relatively low res displays, it looks nice to have anti-aliased numbers for example 20.54.23 # They are pre-rendered. 20.54.39 # So they are relatively HQ 20.55.45 # The only *big* thing left to do is drawing the grid background. It would be nice if I wasn't on a text terminal :D 20.57.53 # bertrik: have you tried it? 20.58.40 # I tried one of the earlier version on the sansa clip zip simulator 20.59.19 # How was it? 20.59.21 Quit ygrek (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 21.00.31 Quit preglow (*.net *.split) 21.00.54 # the sizes of the boxes seemed to have variable width, didn't like that very much yet ... but the game works as I expected 21.01.19 # The newer versions have them in pre-rendered bitmaps 21.01.28 # Try the latest version 21.13.34 Quit JordiGH (Quit: Jacking out) 21.15.42 Quit ParkerR (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 21.17.30 # hm, version 17 won't compile for me 21.17.47 # /home/bertrik/rockbox/rockbox/apps/plugins/2048.c:964:25: warning: case value ‘128’ not in enumerated type ‘enum plugin_status’ [-Wswitch] 21.20.20 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.24.16 # Yeah. That only shows when you build the simulator. 21.24.58 # Working on it now. 21.25.02 # I'm running debian unstable, so I guess I have a relatively new gcc 21.25.25 # I have gcc 4.9.0 21.26.39 # No, just a bug on my part. 21.27.00 # Should be very simple to fix 21.27.48 Quit the-kyle (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.28.16 # Fixed. Compiling now. 21.31.25 # It compiles. Now just need to test... 21.32.50 # bertrik: By the way, I'm using Arch. So I have the GCC build from the git repo :D 21.33.19 # ah 21.33.35 # :D 21.36.42 # It works! Off to Gerrit! 21.37.44 # bertrik: try it now. 21.44.24 Join the-kyle [0] (~kyle@kyle.tk) 21.45.47 Quit franklin (Quit: Switching IRC clients...) 21.46.17 Join franklin [0] (~franklin@cpe-071-071-071-105.triad.res.rr.com) 21.46.38 # * franklin says, I'm back 22.03.06 # berkrit: there's still a tiny bug! One-line fix, though. 22.04.06 # In Super Domination, shouldn't the computer surrender when it has no more farms/factories? 22.13.33 Join ParkerR [0] (ParkerR@unaffiliated/parkerr) 22.47.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.59.48 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 23.07.55 Join RiDD [0] (~RiD@89.214.136.122) 23.11.21 Quit RiD (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 23.25.27 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 23.53.26 Quit y4n (Quit: MOTHER EUROPA CALLING ME!)