--- Log for 23.07.114 Server: morgan.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 month and 4 days ago 00.02.26 Join GodEater [0] (~whoknows@my83-216-94-151.mynow.co.uk) 00.02.26 Quit GodEater (Changing host) 00.02.26 Join GodEater [0] (~whoknows@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 00.23.51 Quit uwe_ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 00.24.09 Join uwe_ [0] (~uwe_@ipservice-092-211-039-181.092.211.pools.vodafone-ip.de) 00.27.15 Quit ulmutul (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 30.0/20140605174243]) 00.31.18 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.32.21 Quit cmhobbs_ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 00.33.05 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 00.38.20 Quit ender` (Quit: I always wanted to have a job in construction or at a hardware store just so I could eat some pink cotton candy in front of someone in a situation that would make them think I was eating fiberglass insulation. -- Chris Hallbeck) 00.44.49 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 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(Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3) 11.13.46 Quit shlomo_ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12.02.58 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 12.04.24 Join ender [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 12.05.41 # pamaury: I think I know what is going on with yp-cp3. Dram config is dead broken in HEAD rk27load. I didn't check this yet but current code definitely doesn't work properly. Now considering this I think cp3 has 16MB of ram but organized differently then other generic rockchip daps. Since col/row config in mem controller is misconfigured we see on 1/4 of the whole memory. 12.05.49 # *only 12.06.46 Quit ender` (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.08.22 Quit Pessimist (Quit: EliteBNC free bnc service - http://elitebnc.org - be a part of the Elite!) 12.14.22 Join Pessimist [0] (Elite8188@unaffiliated/pessimist) 12.14.22 Quit Pessimist (Changing host) 12.14.22 Join Pessimist [0] (Elite8188@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-dmczpvksqodfczvg) 12.32.31 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. Revision dcd8172, 253 builds, 27 clients. 12.38.51 # Build Server message: 3Build round completed after 381 seconds. 12.45.47 # does test_codec resample material that doesn't match the playback sampling rate? 12.46.01 # or does it decode only, no matter the sampling rate? 12.46.53 # for instance: 48 kHz Opus files on a Clip+ with the playback sampling rate set to 44.1 kHz 12.47.10 # does the speed test result include resampling in that case? 12.53.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.56.42 # you could probably check by running test with playback sampling rate set to 48 and then 44.1. If it is resampling you should see tiny difference 12.57.54 # that's what I was thinking, but if there IS resampling, and the difference is tiny, how can I be sure that the difference isn't just a fluke between the two test runs? 12.58.37 # and how large a difference gets it out of the margin of error? 12.59.37 # from the top of my head you should see something like a few MHz difference 13.00.16 # I'm going to run a battbench with 48 kHz FLAC on my Clip+ set to 44.1 kHz 13.00.25 # to measure the impact of resampling 13.00.44 # there were speed tests posted on gerrit when the hermite resampler was about to get in 13.00.59 # a couple of days ago I forget to reset the playback rate to 44.1 kHz and that made the battery life go from 15 hours down to 10 hours 13.01.07 # forgot* 13.01.12 # now I want to make sure 13.01.44 # wodz: ok, that would explain the whole thing I guess 13.02.03 # anyway jhMikeS or saratoga are the persons to ask probably 13.02.08 # good news that you found out 13.02.34 # pamaury: well the bug was there BUT I don't know if this is the only one :-) 13.04.18 # I still wonder how this code worked so far. It crashed on first iteration most probably and mem controller state just happen to be correct for most widely used sdram setup. Thats my theory 13.18.15 Join ikeboy [0] (~ikeboy@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 13.18.31 Quit zoktar (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.31.45 Join sakax [0] (~sakax@unaffiliated/sakax) 13.32.32 Quit sakax (Remote host closed the connection) 13.32.54 Join sakax [0] (~sakax@unaffiliated/sakax) 13.33.20 Quit sakax (Remote host closed the connection) 13.33.42 Join sakax [0] (~sakax@unaffiliated/sakax) 13.37.53 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@dhcp-089-098-143-039.chello.nl) 13.37.53 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 13.37.53 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 13.41.54 Quit sakax (Remote host closed the connection) 13.42.18 # copper: test_codec doesnt do any DSP by default, there is a separate menu item for that 13.52.30 Quit ikeboy (Quit: Leaving) 13.53.32 # kugel: While this is crystal clear for eq and others, it is not for resampling in case of opus files for me. 14.01.01 Join shlomo_ [0] (~SolarAqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion) 14.10.52 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.23.14 Join RiD [0] (~RiD@bl22-169-104.dsl.telepac.pt) 14.23.37 Quit ygrek (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14.31.46 Quit cmhobbs (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.37.25 Join kugel__ [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 14.38.56 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 14.44.31 # wodz: if you want resampling included, use DSP, make sure playback is at 44.1kHz and turn off the rest of the effects 14.51.52 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 14.52.20 # ...or whoever the heck was asking this and that about that 14.53.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.54.06 Part LinusN 14.55.24 # benchmarks are still there: http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/resample_benchmarks_by_CPU.txt 14.55.42 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9EE9C84.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.58.01 # some armv4 comparisons with and without any DSP: http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/resample_benchmarks.txt 15.00.12 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 15.28.48 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@ewnw-dhcp43.avm.de) 15.28.48 Quit kugel (Changing host) 15.28.48 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 15.31.46 Quit kugel__ (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 15.46.52 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.47.14 Join Naked [0] (~naked@naked.iki.fi) 16.17.00 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 16.20.03 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 16.27.11 Join NukaSoda [0] (61511a47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.81.26.71) 16.30.51 Join ikeboy [0] (~ikeboy@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 16.32.58 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 16.33.04 # hello, i had a question about using the "pre-cut" in EQ settings as a volume limiter, does this lower the detail or quality of audio at all, besides lowering the volume? I cant tell much difference in quality but wondered from a technical standpoint if some one knows the possible negative effects. Thanks 16.34.17 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@ppp118-209-229-7.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) 16.34.17 Quit JdGordon (Changing host) 16.34.17 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 16.34.37 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 16.35.50 # NukaSoda: if you use a current development build, there's a real volume limiter 16.37.13 # The EQ precut works, and might work well enough for most people, *but* it doesn't change the voice volume, so if you use voice as well, that will be disproportionally loud 16.37.34 # There should be no quality difference 16.41.26 # alright thanks, will try the dev build 16.41.39 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 16.41.45 Quit kugel_ (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 16.53.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.53.42 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 16.54.25 # Awesome, its works :) no more worry over faulty click pad jumping to max volume randomly! 16.57.21 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 16.59.20 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 17.10.40 Nick shlomo_ is now known as SolarAquarion (~SolarAqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion) 17.11.24 # the rockbox database is too slow when compared to the official database 17.11.35 Quit SolarAquarion (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.13.11 Quit ikeboy (Quit: Leaving) 17.17.27 Quit edhelas (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 17.20.32 Part xiaopi[z] 17.24.59 Join SolarAquarion [0] (~SolarAqua@unaffiliated/solaraquarion) 17.25.50 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 17.27.16 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 17.29.21 Quit NukaSoda (Quit: Page closed) 17.35.46 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 17.56.11 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@77-173-104-232.ip.telfort.nl) 18.08.32 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.45.33 Quit Provel (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 18.46.07 Join Provel [0] (Provel@75-132-0-140.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 18.47.23 Quit RiD (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.47.57 Join RiD [0] (~RiD@bl22-169-104.dsl.telepac.pt) 18.51.51 Quit mortalis (Quit: KVIrc 4.3.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) 18.53.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.54.15 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 19.02.24 Join GodEater [0] (~whoknows@my83-216-94-151.mynow.co.uk) 19.02.24 Quit GodEater (Changing host) 19.02.24 Join GodEater [0] (~whoknows@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 19.17.51 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.33.33 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 19.33.38 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 19.35.32 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.38.41 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g225252022.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.41.51 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 19.42.32 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-67-6-182.dynamic.chello.pl) 20.01.59 Join pretty_function [0] (~sigBART@123.252.213.44) 20.04.02 Quit RiD (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.06.51 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@89-93-178-161.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr) 20.13.34 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 20.17.02 # pamaury: So my theory was correct. Sdram controller init in rk27load stage1 is buggy. The device has 16MB of ram actually. 20.17.16 # cool 20.17.58 # not cool thing is that stage1 init is still wrong even with today fix 20.53.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.56.32 Quit ygrek (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.53.46 # Finally whacked the mole. 21.56.53 # OF now loads correctly with rk27load \o/ 21.59.57 Quit pretty_function (Remote host closed the connection) 22.04.47 Quit y4n (Quit: PÆNTS ØLF!) 22.08.02 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.12.24 # Build Server message: 3New build round started. Revision 345841a, 253 builds, 28 clients. 22.15.45 Join piknockyou [0] (4d149e31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.20.158.49) 22.15.51 # hey 22.16.00 # anyone there? 22.16.20 # i have a question regarding the clip+ 22.16.35 # Build Server message: 3Build round completed after 251 seconds. 22.17.23 # is there someone willing to help me? 22.17.39 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 22.17.55 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 22.18.22 # hello? 22.18.39 # i have a question regarding the clip+ 22.19.11 # just ask the damn question 22.21.38 # oh, sorry. didn't expect someone just waiting for the question. wasn't sure someone was around. ^^does rockbox support keeping the directory structure of the imported files? 22.21.50 # some of my music has no "meta" 22.22.15 # you organize files on player as you like, rockbox doesn't care 22.22.16 # i have a perfect organsied directory. (library) I would like to keep it 22.23.35 # so where is the option to do so? i mean, what is the default setting? sorting by meta or imported directory? 22.23.59 # You can just copy the files the way you want them. 22.24.56 # If you copy a directory, it Rockbox will keep it organized exactly the same as it was on the computer. 22.25.24 # There's no default as such. You either use the file browser to navigate, or you use the database. The database uses metadata 22.26.09 # thank you very much for the answer. this was exactly what I was hoping for. I get a Clip+ and Rockbox now. ^^ 22.26.32 # i just need some other asurenesses ... 22.26.49 # 128 gb sdxc is supported with FAT, right? 22.27.43 # yes, should work just fine 22.29.42 # would you recommend zip or clip+ for the navigation with rockbox? 22.33.34 # its a matter of taste. zip has shitty color display, clip+ monochromatic oled. Other than this both players are virtually the same 22.34.35 # how does rockbox behave with the album art? 22.34.41 # let's say ... 22.35.44 # i don't use database, but file browser. does it generate still the pictures in the folder, if yes, which one if there are several? 22.36.03 # i guess it only works with database by meta, right? 22.36.21 # piknockyou: what about reading manual? 22.37.30 # okay, I will, sorry, this was not such an important question. thanks for the answers. just one last question ... 22.38.31 # at the codeclist on the rockbox site, it doesn't say it supports .m4a, but it does, doesn't it? mpeg includes m4a, right? 22.39.46 # afaik m4a is container not the codec 22.40.33 # you just met a noob, ... i get myself better informed .... 22.48.30 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 22.53.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.11.48 Quit piknockyou (Quit: Page closed) 23.16.33 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-80-238-210.mcn.bellsouth.net) 23.21.30 # maybe I just haven't committed enough recently, but I'm getting a weird error: fatal: remote error: access denied or repository not exported: /rockbox 23.23.32 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.29.08 # anyone has any idea? would this be a problem with the rockbox.org git repo, or a problem on my end? 23.50.44 Quit amayer (Quit: Leaving) 23.58.20 Quit ender (Quit: Anyone who thinks people lack originality should watch them folding roadmaps.)