--- Log for 10.09.114 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 11 days and 11 hours ago 00.00.08 # <[Franklin]> nor is it anywhere else... *PANIC* 00.00.27 # there's always eBay 00.00.31 # <[Franklin]> and http://apple.com/ipodclassic redirects to ipod :O 00.00.38 # <[Franklin]> it's over! 00.00.40 # way ahead of you, pal! 00.00.46 # 20:10:30 UTC anyway, looks like the iPod Classic is finally out of production 00.00.49 # 20:10:44 UTC http://www.apple.com/ipodclassic/ redirects to http://www.apple.com/ipod/ and the Classic isn't listed 00.01.00 # * [Franklin] doesn't read the backlogs 00.01.27 # <[Franklin]> hey but there's still a picture of it here: http://www.apple.com/ipod/tours/ 00.01.28 # I wonder if they'll keep the battery replacement program running for a while 00.02.10 # hmmm 00.02.17 # makes me want to make a new theme for the Classic 00.02.23 # I need a new idea 00.02.49 # <[Franklin]> what? 00.03.14 # a new idea for a theme 00.03.21 # <[Franklin]> yeah... what is it? 00.03.40 # I don't have one 00.03.50 # which is why I said "I need one" 00.04.01 # <[Franklin]> oh... didn't read carefully enough 00.06.30 # * [Franklin] needs to recreate all the other games for ipod in rockbox 00.06.43 # <[Franklin]> so tower defence first 00.06.58 # <[Franklin]> http://www.onemoretap.com/features/ipod-click-wheel-games-complete-list/ 00.09.26 # * [Franklin] expects this to be possible in rockbox: https://www.youtube.com/v/PCYsG-mrXQc 00.10.15 # <[Franklin]> or just some type of racing game 00.12.38 # <[Franklin]> and poker 00.12.42 # <[Franklin]> .. and zuma 00.25.50 Nick DormantBrain is now known as SuperBrainAK (~andy@74.112.200.73) 00.34.24 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.34.45 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@cl-1037.haa-01.nl.sixxs.net) 00.34.48 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 00.34.48 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 00.35.32 # Wouldn't that be infringing on someones copyrights? 00.36.06 # <[Franklin]> call it "ruma" or something similar, and make the game different enough 00.41.34 # * foolsh nods 00.43.27 # Sleeping schedule was all flipped around lately, haven't talked to you in a day or two 00.45.27 # Or "zoomah" lol 00.47.49 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 00.55.01 Quit ender` (Quit: #define sizeof(x) ((rand() % 100 == 42) ? sizeof(x)-1 : sizeof(x))) 01.02.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.07.27 Quit foolsh (Quit: foolsh) 01.12.02 Quit Ecaz (Remote host closed the connection) 01.13.59 Quit ooh (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0/20140825202822]) 01.21.45 Join Ecaz [0] (~z@cpe-075-177-191-139.nc.res.rr.com) 01.21.53 Quit Ecaz (Changing host) 01.21.53 Join Ecaz [0] (~z@unaffiliated/ecaz) 01.31.35 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.40.27 Quit Ecaz (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.41.54 Join Ecaz [0] (~z@cpe-075-177-191-139.nc.res.rr.com) 01.54.50 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01.55.49 Join roj [0] (~roj@135-23-92-39.cpe.pppoe.ca) 01.56.30 Quit roj (Client Quit) 02.12.41 # [Saint], I found out earlier today what caused the troubles I was having browsing through lists with your theme. It was the %?Lt<> tag in your sbs. I can't select the top most items when it's activated. 02.13.23 # <[Saint]> Yeah, and we don't have a "back one" or "up one level" touch area. 02.13.29 # <[Saint]> But...back buttons. 02.13.48 Join GeekShadow [0] (~antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 02.13.49 # <[Saint]> The .sbs was just something I was pissing around with anyway. 02.14.03 # :) 02.14.36 # <[Saint]> I may well end up caving in and adding an "up one/back" touch area, though. 02.14.40 # <[Saint]> Its trivial to add. 02.14.42 # mine came out quite nice. It may need more buttons in lists.. gotta make up my mind about it 02.14.46 # <[Saint]> I'm just lazy, and busy. 02.15.30 # is there a reason why there is no action assigned to long presses on the back button? it could be quite useful. 02.23.18 Quit Ecaz (Remote host closed the connection) 02.27.40 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 02.41.03 Quit [Franklin] (Quit: Leaving) 02.41.50 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.50.31 Quit Aldem (Quit: Leaving) 03.01.12 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 03.02.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.05.20 Join roj [0] (~roj@135-23-92-39.cpe.pppoe.ca) 03.10.43 Part roj ("Leaving") 03.24.32 Join ikeboy [0] (~ikeboy@ool-435622d3.dyn.optonline.net) 03.27.47 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 03.29.50 Join Ecaz [0] (~z@cpe-075-177-191-139.nc.res.rr.com) 03.30.00 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 03.41.12 Quit cmhobbs (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03.58.53 Quit steffengy (Disconnected by services) 03.58.54 Join steffengy1 [0] (~quassel@p5088FF3F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 04.29.39 Quit Ecaz (Remote host closed the connection) 04.50.21 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.50.22 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.50.26 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.50.34 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.50.34 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.50.37 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 05.00.11 Quit Jack87 (Quit: Jack has left the building.) 05.01.54 Join Jack87 [0] (Jack87@nasadmin/admin/jack87) 05.02.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.16.23 Quit [7] (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 05.17.39 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.30.36 Quit ikeboy (Quit: Leaving) 07.02.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.30.25 Join mortalis [0] (~kvirc@213.33.220.118) 08.16.55 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 08.24.11 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.31.57 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 08.42.45 Quit rela (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.46.13 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 08.46.20 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 08.46.29 Join goom [0] (~goomba@cpe-72-177-165-10.satx.res.rr.com) 08.51.29 Join petur [0] (5bb7304d@rockbox/developer/petur) 08.54.22 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.54.38 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 08.54.55 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 09.01.59 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 09.02.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.18.57 Join xorly [0] (~xorly@210.213.broadband13.iol.cz) 09.22.36 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 09.24.21 Nick SuperBrainAK is now known as DormantBrain (~andy@74.112.200.73) 09.27.49 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 09.40.26 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.48.13 Join foolsh [0] (~bbrown@c-67-174-138-234.hsd1.in.comcast.net) 10.19.21 Quit xorly (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 11.02.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.08.16 Join krabador [0] (~krabador_@unaffiliated/krabador) 11.12.40 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 11.39.08 Quit akaWolf (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 12.18.59 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 12.22.54 # pamaury: Do you have an idea how to test lowlevel part of bulk transfer in rk27xx usb driver? I mean to check if we are able to push/pop arbitrary data over pipe without interacting with higher level code. 12.25.20 # gevaerts: What syntax does the gigabeat f/x save it's touchpad sensitivity setting to in the config file, if you know off the top of your head? or anyone else who knows 12.25.27 # I'm asking because I'm working on the manual but don't have a gigabeat f/x to check against 12.32.31 Join krabador [0] (~krabador_@unaffiliated/krabador) 12.34.12 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 12.34.21 Quit AlexP (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 12.35.25 Quit bcobco (Remote host closed the connection) 12.35.50 Join bcobco [0] (~bcobco@77.228.124.149) 12.36.24 # I'm looking at normal/high here, but I'd like to know if its, 0/1, true/false, or whatever since its boolean, I'd just like to be sure before I commit 12.44.34 # wodz: edit hwstub ? create stub driver in rockbox ? 12.45.46 # I don't have much time right now to discuss this 12.51.30 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 12.56.47 Quit krabador (Quit: Take the time.) 13.02.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.06.24 Join akaWolf [0] (~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf) 13.09.49 Quit mikroflops (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.38.34 # g#954 Anyone who can review this? I'm pretty sure now its normal/high for the gigabeat fx 13.38.37 # 3Gerrit review #954 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/954 : 3Rockbox Manual - Gigabeat FX and Fuze+ Touchpad Config Appendix by Benjamin Brown 13.44.18 # foolsh: you could try in the sim 13.46.50 # Would that work? It doesn't for the fuze+ but I'll have a go at it, thanks 13.47.12 # * gevaerts isn't sure 13.47.23 # If not, I should be able to check later today 13.47.44 # * foolsh tries it out 13.50.59 Quit rela (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.56.35 Quit goom (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 13.57.00 # gevaerts: Ok cool it worked, and yeah its (normal / high) 13.57.09 # pamaury: One difference between rb rk27xx usb driver and of rk27xx usb driver is that we discard d cache for the whole buffer at once while of discards the portion of the single chunk of transfer 13.58.11 # pamaury: there is also bit in udc irq register which is marked as reserved in datasheet while used in OF 14.10.19 # After some simplifying and changes to the conditionals #954 is *really* ready this time 14.12.09 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 14.13.29 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@178.174.137.62) 14.21.47 Quit efyx_ (Quit: Quitte) 14.22.08 Join efyx_ [0] (~efyx@195.113-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) 14.22.43 Quit efyx_ (Client Quit) 14.24.44 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 14.24.56 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9EE984E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 14.37.42 Join cmhobbs [0] (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) 14.46.52 Join amayer [0] (~amayer@mail.weberadvertising.com) 14.47.19 Quit ygrek (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 14.50.26 Quit bcobco (Remote host closed the connection) 14.50.52 Join bcobco [0] (~bcobco@77.228.124.149) 14.55.18 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@li482-205.members.linode.com) 14.58.20 Nick oskie_ is now known as oskie (usel@lilyleaf.info) 15.02.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.04.41 Quit cmhobbs (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 15.13.37 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 15.17.24 Quit petur (Quit: Page closed) 16.16.02 Join ideasman42 [0] (~cambo@124-170-33-184.dyn.iinet.net.au) 16.16.33 # Hey, Question about rockbox. Is there some way bookmarks can be removed, when I delete a file? 16.16.53 # currently I can delete some file, but the bookmarks to it remain 16.17.09 # even if it had to be run manually, a way to cleanup bookmarks would be nice 16.44.33 # ideasman42, you could probably configure the disktidy plugin to clean bookmarks, or write a lua script 16.44.59 # dfkt, does rockbox run lua' 16.45.04 # yes 16.45.10 # ah cool 16.45.16 # dfkt, are you a rockbox developer? 16.45.30 # nope, innocent bystander ;) 16.45.47 # ah oki, was thinking could donate for it... 16.45.59 # i think you can, on the website 16.45.59 # * gevaerts isn't sure dfkt is *that* innocent :) 16.46.14 # assume such a feature would be <$500 16.46.28 # well, gevaerts, maybe i contributed one or the other bug ;) 16.47.36 # it could be an option, refresh bookmakes (on-delete / on-boot / never) 16.47.57 # I'd say that's work for a plugin 16.48.09 # does rockbox have hooks/ 16.48.11 # ? 16.48.19 # could I hook into a delete event? 16.48.27 # (to know when a files been deleted) 16.48.30 # no 16.48.45 # Well, not from a plugin. It might be possible from the core 16.49.21 # The thing is that you either have to maintain a global index of all bookmark files and the audio files referenced in them, or you have to scan every time 16.49.39 # right, it would scan the entire drive I suppose 16.49.51 # which Is why I was thinking of doing it on-delete 16.50.02 # since that is quite logical and no need to scan 16.50.17 # - if you remove a file, why would you want to keep a bookmark to it? 16.50.28 # maybe it could just be an option 16.50.31 # Yes, the reason for this is easy and obvious :) 16.50.39 # The tricky bit is how to do it 16.50.51 # [Delete bookmarks with audii] 16.50.54 # audio* 16.51.18 # Also, it's not just a matter of deleting bookmark *files* 16.51.25 # no? 16.51.53 # You could easily have a bookmark file for a directory, and then delete some files in that directory. The bookmark file now contains some still valid bookmarks and some invalid ones 16.52.24 # so it would have to look inside the bookmark file? 16.52.29 # and remove entries? 16.52.36 # Ideally yes, I'd say 16.53.14 # gevaerts, are you a dev? 16.53.31 # grabbing rockbox code now... 16.53.33 # Well, you have to look inside *anyway*, to see if your deleted file is there at all 16.53.50 # I'm a committer, yes 16.54.03 # gevaerts, would you do this feature for some payment? 16.54.37 # No. I'm not looking for work :) 16.54.48 # tsk, me neither 16.54.59 # You don't need a committer though 16.55.09 # still, if I sent a few $100 - could I make it worth your time? 16.55.49 # rockbox is way ahead of anything else I used, and its basically perfect for me, except this one issue 16.56.10 # I dont mind footing the bill if it fixes for everyone else too :) 16.59.57 Quit bcobco (Remote host closed the connection) 17.00.22 Join bcobco [0] (~bcobco@77.228.124.149) 17.01.44 Quit ygrek (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 17.02.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.07.40 # looked into code, probably this is weekend task 17.07.53 # will try this weekend.. or next 17.07.56 Quit ideasman42 (Quit: Ex-Chat) 17.07.59 # ideasman42: maybe you should start a discussion in the "feature ideas" section on the forums 17.08.02 Join bughunter2 [0] (~jg@unaffiliated/bughunter2) 17.08.03 # ideasman42: perhaps you should post in the feature ideas section of the forums, and if you want to offer a bounty mark it there and see if someone will take the job 17.08.10 # crap fast that one 17.09.18 Quit bughunter2 (Client Quit) 17.09.27 Join bughunter2 [0] (~jg@unaffiliated/bughunter2) 17.10.34 Quit bughunter2 (Client Quit) 17.10.44 Join bughunter2 [0] (~jg@unaffiliated/bughunter2) 17.11.11 Quit mortalis (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17.17.25 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17.35.11 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@li482-205.members.linode.com) 17.49.22 Join DIY-Noob [0] (b8a34d2d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.184.163.77.45) 18.04.25 Join ygrek [0] (~user@108.59.6.97) 18.08.10 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18.18.31 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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Bagder, LinusN, and Zagor. 23.30.15 # * gevaerts isn't aware of any Swede named badger 23.30.19 # <[Saint]> LinusN isn't particularly active, though. 23.30.20 # <[Franklin]> Badger :P 23.30.48 # <[Franklin]> git deal 23.30.50 # <[Franklin]> big deal 23.30.58 # * gevaerts isn't aware of any Swede named Badger 23.31.01 # <[Saint]> bagder bagder bagder bagder mushroom mushroom. 23.31.08 # <[Franklin]> bagderbagderbagderbagderbagderbagderbagderbagder 23.31.23 # * [Franklin] is about to get kicked... He can sense it 23.36.31 # a disturbance in the force? 23.37.37 # <[Franklin]> /s/force/Force/ 23.38.10 # It's usually quit civil here until right about 5:30 every week day 23.38.25 # <[Franklin]> haha 23.38.29 # * [Franklin] wonders why 23.38.38 # <[Franklin]> force disturbance? 23.42.35 Quit crose (Quit: Leaving) 23.43.07 # <[Saint]> ZincAlloy: a little heads up, I think with Rockbox on Android, having very large short press touch areas is a pretty big usability issue. 23.43.38 # <[Saint]> You _really_ want long press activiation on such large touch areas that are going to be potentially pressed accidentally often. 23.43.44 # right. you might hit it accidentally 23.43.54 # * [Saint] has found this one out with trial and error and a lot of being bitched at. 23.44.18 # * ZincAlloy doesn't use playlist view anyway... 23.44.40 # <[Saint]> This is one of the reasons I tried hiding everything away in an overflow menu. ;) 23.45.03 # :D 23.45.33 # my approach is a little different 23.45.53 # everything but the stop button and tiny cover art should be easy to touch 23.46.15 # <[Saint]> I really like the pitch screen icon, btw. 23.46.25 # <[Saint]> You have a way with aesthetics that I do not. 23.46.45 # <[Saint]> We really need to collaborate some day. 23.47.08 # <[Saint]> I guess, technically speaking, we have. Just multiple years apart. ;) 23.47.17 # I needed an icon. I googled for pitch icons. found a picture of a pitch fork. so I made the most basic pitch fork icon I could come up with out of the letters U and i :D 23.47.24 # yeah. far out. 23.47.36 # <[Franklin]> U 23.47.37 # <[Franklin]> I 23.47.40 # <[Franklin]> tada 23.48.00 # what we really need is a theme that will scale nicely to any screen size 23.48.12 # <[Saint]> I haven't actually looked at the code, can the progressbar be disabled? 23.48.36 # no, the greyed out bar is part of the backdrop 23.48.52 # but you could comment out the blue part. 23.49.15 # <[Saint]> Errr, why did I say progressbar...ummm...words...English...fuck. 23.49.25 # status bar? 23.49.26 # <[Saint]> State? 23.49.28 # <[Saint]> fuck 23.49.34 # <[Saint]> Statusbar! 23.49.46 # <[Saint]> Can the _statusbar_ be disabled? ;) 23.49.47 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 33.0/20140902214533]) 23.50.07 # no, I should add this.. 23.50.15 # <[Saint]> In older Android versions, you'll end up with two status bars. 23.50.21 # oooh 23.50.34 # <[Saint]> In newer Android versions, you'll have Rockbox go fullscreen and Android drop into immersive mode. 23.50.40 # <[Saint]> And again, have two ststus bars. 23.51.02 # <[Saint]> (but the immersive mode one will be hidden until you swipe down from the top) 23.51.38 # I'm on 4.3. didn't cause any issues 23.52.09 # <[Saint]> but the statusbar still surely draws overtop of the theme one, yes? 23.52.18 # <[Saint]> or have you not discovered immersive mode yet? 23.52.38 # it goes fullscreen and I can swipe down the android one I think.. let me try 23.52.48 # <[Saint]> right, that's it. 23.52.55 # yeah. 23.52.59 # <[Saint]> I didn't personally see the point in doubling up on info here. 23.53.06 # <[Saint]> but, that's me. 23.53.08 # <[Saint]> and you're you. 23.53.10 # <[Saint]> :) 23.53.49 # that way I don't need to swipe it down to see it. and honestly I dind't even consider this when I came up with it 23.54.02 # <[Saint]> I "solved" this issue by relying on Androids statusbar and volume overlays entirely. 23.54.23 # <[Saint]> s/solved/avoided/...whatever. ;) 23.54.27 # can you keep it on screen permanently? 23.54.32 # <[Saint]> No. 23.54.38 # bummer 23.55.05 # <[Saint]> There _is_ a way to say "hey, Android, don't do immersive on fullscreen" 23.55.15 # speaking of swipes: swiping would make navigating trhough the menus even more pleasant 23.55.17 # <[Saint]> but I'm unsure if that would be universally wanted. 23.55.25 # <[Franklin]> [Saint]: what do you mean in your comment on g910? 23.55.28 # 3Gerrit review #910 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/910 : 3Improved viewers.config by Franklin Wei 23.55.31 # <[Saint]> We can do swipe gestures in a very tricky way. 23.55.34 # <[Franklin]> "The display of viewer icons is deeply broken." 23.55.41 # <[Saint]> Its something I've been playing with. 23.55.47 # <[Franklin]> in this patch? or in rockbox itself? 23.55.57 # <[Saint]> In rockbox itself. 23.56.01 # <[Saint]> It has been for years. 23.56.02 # <[Franklin]> ahh... 23.56.12 # <[Saint]> Maybe it never worked. 23.56.14 # <[Saint]> I dunno. 23.56.22 # <[Saint]> Its always been broken in my experience with it. 23.56.28 # <[Saint]> ...5 years? 23.56.30 # That's easy to find out :) 23.56.32 # <[Saint]> something like this. 23.57.29 # I basically copied android's screen structure for my theme. kinda looks like a bastard child of android and windows phone, eh? 23.57.37 # <[Saint]> It has always /mostly/ worked, but if you try to do a custom viewers.icons, it'll almost always get something hilariously wrong. 23.57.55 # <[Saint]> And some viewers icons are just plain wrong, despite the code seemingly agreeing. 23.58.10 # <[Saint]> Torne looked into it many, many, many moons ago. 23.58.14 # speaking of icon sets: the really huge ones you shared with me didn't work on target 23.58.23 # <[Saint]> Pretty sure he recoiled in horror and just said 'fuck it' though. 23.58.28 # <[Saint]> likely paraphrasing. 23.58.59 # <[Saint]> ZincAlloy: quite probably overflowed the buffer.