--- Log for 11.10.114 Server: wilhelm.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 hour and 37 minutes ago 00.05.51 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@pool-71-175-244-36.phlapa.east.verizon.net) 00.09.44 Join bp0 [0] (~bp@unaffiliated/bp0) 00.14.36 Join nialv7 [0] (~nialv7@mo211-027.resnet.stonybrook.edu) 00.22.23 Quit ender` (Quit: All general statements are false. -- The Ultimate Law) 00.28.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.33.14 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 00.46.50 Quit chrisb (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00.49.51 Quit bp0 (Quit: Leaving) 00.51.05 Quit ZincAlloy (Quit: Leaving.) 00.51.16 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@c-68-43-2-35.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 00.51.16 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 00.51.16 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 00.57.28 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 33.0/20141007073543]) 00.57.57 Nick SuperBrainAK is now known as DormantBrain (~andy@74.112.200.73) 02.15.43 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 02.15.56 Quit varogami (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1) 02.28.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.31.10 Join stickyb1t [0] (~egon@cpc11-aztw25-2-0-cust22.aztw.cable.virginm.net) 02.41.03 Quit bertrik (Quit: Lost terminal) 03.00.01 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 03.01.28 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 03.07.49 Join chrisb [0] (~chrisb@li482-205.members.linode.com) 03.11.36 Quit stickyb1t (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 03.23.15 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 03.44.20 Quit Provel (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03.45.07 Join Provel [0] (Provel@75-132-30-64.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 03.49.09 Nick DormantBrain is now known as SuperBrainAK (~andy@74.112.200.73) 03.58.35 Nick SuperBrainAK is now known as DormantBrain (~andy@74.112.200.73) 04.04.02 Quit bertrik (Remote host closed the connection) 04.28.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.29.20 Quit Aldem (Quit: Leaving) 04.31.46 Join cmhobbs_ [0] (~cmhobbs@ip98-186-66-92.fv.ks.cox.net) 04.50.49 Quit nialv7 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.53.03 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.53.03 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.53.03 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.53.04 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.53.06 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.53.06 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 05.09.17 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 05.10.14 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.32.13 # 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...........tumbleweed.............. 16.16.19 Quit rockboxuser (Client Quit) 16.28.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.41.51 # yuriks: I have made some progress on usb audio 16.41.58 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 16.43.41 # I can get a consistent data rate, audio is garbage at the moment for some reason but at least I received the data. However, I still had to do slight modification to the usb core because although sustaining ~1000 interrupts/second is fine, the usb completion handlers are queued and ran from a separate thread, which is way to slow (the schedule runs only 100 times/second), so we need a new completion handler function which is called directly from 16.43.41 # the usb driver, but that's a small modification. I'll push the code to gerrit so you can have a look if you feel like it 17.07.30 Quit markun (Remote host closed the connection) 17.26.38 Join stickyb1t [0] (~egon@cpc11-aztw25-2-0-cust22.aztw.cable.virginm.net) 17.54.38 Join markun [0] (~markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 17.59.07 # yeah usb audio working on my fuze+ \o/ \o/ \o/ 17.59.33 # :) 18.00.09 # \o/ 18.00.42 # stupid alignement bug took me two hours to track 18.00.49 # *alignment 18.03.27 # what device do you plug to the Fuze+ for testing pamaury ? 18.03.40 # headphones 18.03.55 # and the host is my computer running linux 18.04.15 # ah ok 18.04.29 # I thought you connected an USB DAC/AMP to the Fuze+ 18.04.54 # ah no ^^ the fuze+ emulates a usb dac 18.05.41 # so that it can replaces a shitty laptop sound card? 18.06.55 Join Szczepancio [0] (~Patryk@acfx242.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 18.07.07 # lebellium: yeah for example 18.07.17 # hello all, how to turn official firmware off on nwz-e370/nwz-e380? 18.07.29 # Szczepancio: you cannot, you must reset it 18.07.37 # how? 18.07.49 # ah small button at back 18.08.04 # when you "power off" the OF, it simply sleeps. Use a paperclip and press in the "reset" hole at the back 18.08.52 # lebellium: at the moment on playback is supported but in theory it could playback to headphones, speakers & line-out (if the device have some), and also record from microphone, line-in and possibly radio 18.09.40 # great 18.10.52 # my laptop output is noisy with sensitive IEM 18.10.55 # that could help :) 18.15.05 Join ZincAlloy [0] (~Adium@pD9EEAB7B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.21.19 Quit mg_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.22.13 Quit stickyb1t (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 18.25.34 # g#1009 18.25.38 # 3Gerrit review #1009 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/1009 : 3Add USB Audio 1.0 support (EXPERIMENTAL) by Amaury Pouly 18.25.40 # yuriks: ^ 18.28.19 Quit nialv7 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.28.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.31.50 # pamaury: will you make USB audio work with other targets, like the Clip+? 18.32.08 Quit benedikt93 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 18.32.36 # I may have a look but first the hardware has to support isochronous tranfers, and second I would prefer that the rework of the clip+ usb driver be finished before this 18.33.31 Join stickyb1t [0] (~egon@cpc11-aztw25-2-0-cust22.aztw.cable.virginm.net) 18.36.30 # pamaury: you're making Rockbox compete with FiiO on this 18.36.34 # (which is good) 18.37.52 Join rela [0] (~x@pdpc/supporter/active/rela) 18.39.53 # the usb audio patch has been around for many years now, this is long overdue 18.40.01 # eh 19.12.35 # pamaury: I'll try out your patch with my Fuze+ and Win 7 19.12.43 # ok thanks 19.12.54 # I expect some problems, as usual with Windows 19.19.44 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.22.33 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 19.28.37 # pamaury: the sound is awful but it works :D 19.29.30 # lol 19.29.33 # why awful? 19.30.26 # very noisy 19.31.11 # It's like poor FM signal 19.31.14 # but still impressive 19.31.34 # I'm listening music from my PC through the Fuze+ Jack output!! 19.31.47 # yes, but why the noise? 19.31.58 # I'm not a dev 19.32.04 # I can't answer that 19.36.00 Join nialv7 [0] (~nialv7@adm-129-49-226-16.wi-fi.stonybrook.edu) 19.36.47 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 20.16.08 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 20.16.13 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 20.17.27 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 20.18.41 Join mg_ [0] (martigam@cassarossa.samfundet.no) 20.19.14 Quit stickyb1t (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 20.19.35 Quit petur (Remote host closed the connection) 20.20.13 Join stickyb1t [0] (~egon@cpc11-aztw25-2-0-cust22.aztw.cable.virginm.net) 20.20.55 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 20.24.24 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g226070174.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.25.35 Quit stickyb1t (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 20.28.19 Join stickyb1t [0] (~egon@cpc11-aztw25-2-0-cust22.aztw.cable.virginm.net) 20.28.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.30.46 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 20.34.47 Join bertrik [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 20.42.38 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@p3E9E7A88.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.54.04 Join petur [0] (~petur@78-22-115-38.access.telenet.be) 20.54.09 Quit petur (Changing host) 20.54.09 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 20.56.38 Join roj [0] (~roj@135-23-92-39.cpe.pppoe.ca) 20.59.25 # hi folks... are there any issues with the october 4th build and later with opus files and replaygain tags? i had problems with volume (they played very soft and i couldn't raise the volume even with the volume control on my player) 20.59.53 # the problems were with earlier builds 21.00.56 # additional info: the eplaygain tags were added with foobar2000 21.04.05 # roj: is there an example file available somewehre? 21.04.26 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 21.04.57 # nls: i could send one to someone 21.06.42 Quit stickyb1t (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 21.17.16 # roj: Opus "Replaygain" is 5 dB quieter than "normal replaygain" 21.17.51 Quit y4n (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.18.40 # copper: thanks - news to me. how come? 21.19.33 # it's part of the standard 21.19.43 # it's part of the Opus standard 21.20.02 # copper: wow... wonder why they did that? replaygain is a standard itself... 21.20.18 # it's actually sensible, considering there are lots of albums with positive gain, which would clip 21.20.56 # and it just so happens that, in order to avoid clipping with the worst cases in my music collection, I have to set the Replaygain preamp to -5 dB 21.21.09 # copper: ah... yeah - all pop albums today are recorded major "hot"... annoying as heck :) 21.21.12 # which brings it down to the Opus reference level 21.21.28 # roj: the problem is not the hot albums 21.21.38 # it's the ones with lots of dynamic range 21.21.47 # e.g. symphonic music, opera 21.21.48 # copper: like classical? 21.21.51 # yup 21.21.57 # copper: bingo 21.22.12 # copper: which is what i listen to along with jazz 21.22.27 # anyway, it's a problem when you're already nearly maxed out with a given device and a given pair of headphones 21.22.53 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 21.22.56 # copper: thanks very much for the info. i'm using a sansa fuze v2 and senn cx980s 21.27.21 # roj: an easy fix is to set the RG preamp value in Rockbox to a positive value 21.27.32 # +5 dB if you want to "match" the Replaygain standard 21.28.05 # some of your content might clip, but probably very little of it 21.28.35 # there's a good chance the duration of the parts that will clip is so small that you won't even notice 21.29.03 # it's in the replaygain settings 21.29.08 # g2g 21.29.15 # copper: again thank you - you're a scholar and a gentleman :) 21.34.59 Quit Jinx (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.35.10 Quit rela (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.50.50 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 21.52.24 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.59.22 Join Jinx [0] (Dojo@unaffiliated/jinx) 21.59.47 Quit krabador (Quit: Sto andando via) 22.09.40 Quit roj (Quit: Leaving) 22.14.23 Quit Szczepancio (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.16.06 Quit varogami (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 22.20.10 Quit y4n (Quit: Assumption is the mother of all fuckups) 22.28.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.36.44 Join bp0 [0] (~bp@unaffiliated/bp0) 22.51.56 Join Aldem [0] (~Aldem@unaffiliated/aldem) 23.01.21 Quit Marex (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.01.38 Join Marex [0] (~Marex@195.140.253.167) 23.02.14 Join stickyb1t [0] (~egon@cpc11-aztw25-2-0-cust22.aztw.cable.virginm.net) 23.04.35 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.06.48 Quit bp0 (Quit: Leaving) 23.15.47 Quit stickyb1t (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.22.43 Quit nk2032 () 23.25.35 Quit benedikt93 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.34.59 Nick TheSeven is now known as [7] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 23.44.08 Join varogami [0] (~varogami@dynamic-adsl-94-34-19-138.clienti.tiscali.it) 23.55.35 Quit ender` (Quit: Cigarettes are like squirrels. 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